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	Oh, please, Mayor Basket here.	00:00:00
	Councillor Travis Lopez.	00:00:02
	Here, Councillor Dean.	00:00:04
	Councillor Fleming.	00:00:06
	Councillor Ocampo.	00:00:08
	Councillor O'gin.	00:00:11
	There, Councillor Partridge.	00:00:12
	Here, Councillor Romero.	00:00:14
	Councillor Salome.	00:00:16
	We do have a quorum.	00:00:17
	Mr. Mayor.	00:00:36
	Move to 2nd to discussion.	00:00:38
	All in favor.	00:00:43
	All right.	00:00:44
	And the.	00:00:46
	Well, who's next?	00:00:50
	Public form.	00:00:52
	Consent agenda too.	00:00:54
	Budget resolution.	00:00:59
	No ladies first.	00:01:07
	Craft on Weekends was a resounding success. Thank you so much to the city for all the help.	00:01:22
	I am particularly in charge of the youth.	00:01:29
	For community effort, we have over 65 volunteers the city tech.	00:01:31
	Many businesses come together to make this happen for the kids in our community.	00:01:36
	A couple of items on this report that I passed out to you. Healthy kids provided fruit and water. Yeah. Captain Louis Travis did	00:01:40
	an outstanding job of organizing the city police, that is.	00:01:46
	Always, always, always.	00:01:52
	The thing that keeps me up at night? Kids safety on the bike course and I don't.	00:01:54
	Worry nearly as much, and Captain Chavez is in charge.	00:01:58
	So I just really am grateful for the city support on that front.	00:02:02
	And EMS was great. They were everywhere I needed them to be. Thankfully we didn't act.	00:02:06
	Actually need them, but I like to know that they're there.	00:02:10
	It's actually required as part of our USA Triathlon sanction to.	00:02:13
	Kids received a bunch of free goodies.	00:02:18
	I had such great volunteers. This year we had 37 participants, which was a little bit low.	00:02:20
	Compared to the last few years since Covad, I attribute that to the fact that it was.	00:02:27
	A school day here in Sapporo. My local numbers in particular were just a little bit lower than usual.	00:02:31
	It's something that I.	00:02:37
	Want to remedy anything? Maybe I need to lobby to get that Friday off.	00:02:39
	On the school calendar next year, I'll be paying attention.	00:02:42
	But anyway, the kids who showed up had a great time, the parents were super pleased and we had a number of families come down	00:02:46
	from.	00:02:48
	So 37 total participants, 40% were from Socorro County.	00:02:51
	Almost 60% were past participants who've come to Sapporo, OR.	00:02:57
	Are in Superman, have done it before and so.	00:03:02
	It's typically our best recruiting tactic is.	00:03:05
	Word of mouth and kids who've done it before and tell their friends or their family and everything with.	00:03:07
	So again.	00:03:11
	Just a big thank you to the city for all the support.	00:03:13
	I love this event, I'm going to keep doing it as long as possible.	00:03:17
	As long as it's practical so my kids age out at least.	00:03:21
	So I know that when we see.	00:03:24
	Is here to talk about the adult triathlon.	00:03:27
	That's OK if you pay.	00:03:29
	Well, first of all, thank you for all the work you do.	00:03:30
	As a volunteer, I know you're.	00:03:35
	Are into it and that's that's what we need is people that are really.	00:03:37
	Passionate about running and.	00:03:40
	Thank you, thank you for your work that you, but my passion doesn't go very far if I don't have the help.	00:03:41
	Of the community too, so it is a.	00:03:46
	Definitely a joint effort.	00:03:48
	So thank you.	00:03:50
	Hey, I'm the director for the.	00:03:55
	Out of triathlon?	00:03:58
	I'll send you a.	00:03:59
	Bring copy of the report so you guys can see the numbers for.	00:04:01
	This was the second year we host the state championship.	00:04:04
	Next year where I only send applications so we can host the state championship again.	00:04:07
	That attract a lot of people and puts, you know, a good highlight in Socorro.	00:04:12
	And I'd say like.	00:04:16
	It would not be possible without the support of.	00:04:17
	The theory under the first of the first responders like this.	00:04:19
	Something that we require to do and you know it keeps all the participants.	00:04:24
	Faith We had around 200 volunteers.	00:04:28
	Many of those were from Sapporo.	00:04:31
	And seventy of those from from Albuquerque.	00:04:34
	But the rails are coming from like El Paso.	00:04:38
	Colorado.	00:04:41
	Places agree for that they need to come and stay in our hotel because they need to drive from far.	00:04:44
	So here again, thank you for the support.	00:04:48
	I emailed you a.	00:04:51
	Report by the end of the week.	00:04:54
	Thank you. Thank you for your effort. Also thank you.	00:04:56
	Comments.	00:05:00
	OK, Mr. Robin.	00:05:05
	Good evening.	00:05:11
	I'm here to report on our progress for Scott County Prevention Coalition.	00:05:14
	And I'm gonna report on the data that we've collected from the New Mexico Community Survey and the students of the Strategies for	00:05:18
	Success survey.	00:05:22
	The Mexican Community Survey is the survey that we collect.	00:05:27
	In March, April.	00:05:30
	And we collect that through online service surveying and also at Walmart doing a face to face collections.	00:05:32
	And then Strategy Success Survey is a survey that we administer to students at the middle school.	00:05:39
	And at the high school?	00:05:46
	And we collect that data and utilize that data to help drive some of our programs.	00:05:47
	Not only for our programs, but for scopes programs for the score county juvenile justice programs and other programs that are.	00:05:51
	In the state and in this area.	00:05:59
	I provided you a packet and I'm just going to hit the highlight points.	00:06:02
	And then that has data.	00:06:05
	That you can also.	00:06:07
	See the breakdown over the years.	00:06:09
	One area that I would like to kind of mention was.	00:06:13
	In the New Mexico Community Survey, it identifies the adults report an increase.	00:06:16
	In providing alcohol to minors.	00:06:22
	It went from a 4.3% to a 4.5%. And again, this is all anonymous, but this is adults saying that they are giving.	00:06:24
	To combiners.	00:06:33
	You can contribute that also. We had an increase in.	00:06:35
	Participants from the previous year.	00:06:39
	To this year.	00:06:41
	And so we've seen that increase each year. And so you'll see that data kind of.	00:06:42
	Jump up and down just a little bit in our various questions that we ask.	00:06:46
	And so I'm kind of.	00:06:49
	And it's only about a.	00:06:51
	A .2% difference.	00:06:53
	From last year's data to this year's data. So that could be.	00:06:55
	Or that data makes a little bit of changes because there isn't.	00:06:59
	An increase in participation.	00:07:02
	In the survey.	00:07:04
	Perceptions of alcohol use hurts the community financially. Continues to show a decrease.	00:07:08
	From 66.5% to 65.	00:07:13
	.9%.	00:07:16
	And what that means is the communities.	00:07:18
	Identifying that they don't see a.	00:07:20
	Relationship between alcohol use and impacting the community.	00:07:23
	As we know, we've seen some incidences where that did happen. Last year we had the the vehicle drive into.	00:07:28
	What used to be the bar?	00:07:34
	Plumbing and heating and the automotive.	00:07:36
	Drove right into the buildings.	00:07:39
	And that individual had been drinking, so those type of things.	00:07:41
	I don't know if they're relaying that.	00:07:44
	As far as impacted community out but.	00:07:45
	I see that as an impact to the community and so.	00:07:48
	We are going to try and do a.	00:07:51
	Good job of it.	00:07:54
	Informing the community through our advertisement.	00:07:55
	At the movie theaters and through our advertisement online.	00:07:58
	And when we hand out our informational bags.	00:08:01
	To kind of explain what?	00:08:04
	Impact the community is and see if we can help under the community understand.	00:08:05
	How that impact is happening through?	00:08:10
	Things such as that and other entities.	00:08:13
	Umm next data point is current drinking umm.	00:08:15
	Adults and individuals have filled out the New Mexico Community survey or identifying that.	00:08:20
	There has been a decrease.	00:08:25
	Continuing decrease, it went from 58.4.	00:08:27
	4% to 48.4 on 3%.	00:08:29
	That's a huge increase.	00:08:32
	And people identifying that they're drinking.	00:08:34
	And again.	00:08:36
	We had an increase in number of participants.	00:08:37
	So that shows that we've got a good representation that we're starting to see decrease in alcohol use in in the community as a	00:08:39
	whole.	00:08:43
	Perception of ease of teenage access to alcohol in the community.	00:08:49
	Continues to show a decrease.	00:08:53
	Last year was 82.8%. This year the community identified that they feel like.	00:08:56
	And they have less opportunity to receive alcohol. Is that 79.2%? So we're still seeing that decline which?	00:09:02
	That number we want to see go further down.	00:09:08
	We want to see it drop even more, but.	00:09:11
	79.79 point 2% isn't bad.	00:09:13
	And then significant decrease in public.	00:09:17
	Perception regarding the arrest of adults providing alcohol to.	00:09:19
	Minus that was a decrease or actually should be perception should be an increase.	00:09:23
	From 43.1% to 60.1%.	00:09:30
	So we more people are identifying that they're seeing that.	00:09:33
	Areas of possibility that.	00:09:37
	If you provide alcohol to a minor that.	00:09:39
	You're going to have some type of consequence.	00:09:41
	And so we're hoping that we can continue to see that number grow.	00:09:43
	More highlights from the Mexican Community survey.	00:09:48
	Perceived risk of harm associated with misuse prescription drugs.	00:09:51
	Showed an increase.	00:09:55
	Went to 93.4%.	00:09:57
	Reported harm of perception painkillers decreased among adults.	00:10:00
	To a low of 3.6%.	00:10:05
	Reported locking of painkillers increased.	00:10:08
	Among parents from 61% to 64.3%.	00:10:12
	And prevalence of receiving painkillers increased from 16.8%.	00:10:17
	To 21.9%.	00:10:23
	Number going in the wrong direction, a lot of people identifying that they're receiving more painkillers.	00:10:25
	Again, we have to contribute some of that to the increased number of participants.	00:10:30
	In that number slightly increasing.	00:10:36
	And then increase in survey, this number, I really like to see continue to go up and we've seen this number go up as we started	00:10:39
	to.	00:10:42
	You know, ask these questions.	00:10:47
	Since me and Joel took over at SCPC.	00:10:49
	We're last year we had 224 participants.	00:10:53
	This year we had 267 participants.	00:10:56
	Participating in the survey.	00:10:59
	Our goal was to hit around 300.	00:11:01
	Our overall goal is to get over what we had last year participating.	00:11:03
	We reach that.	00:11:07
	Our high end objective was to get around 300.	00:11:08
	We got close to it.	00:11:12
	We want to thank Socorro County for the juvenile justice probation on board.	00:11:14
	For helping us with meeting those increasing numbers, they provided some incentives in order to for us to hand out incentives in	00:11:19
	order for as part people participated.	00:11:24
	So I want to thank them.	00:11:29
	We also want to thank the capacity fraternity who again once again this year, helped us out.	00:11:30
	From Mexico Tech.	00:11:36
	Help us in collecting data.	00:11:37
	They collected data with us at Walmart. At Walmart, they also helped collect data on campus.	00:11:39
	They went from dorm room to dorm room handing out Donuts.	00:11:45
	As they asked participants to complete the survey.	00:11:49
	Next year we have a plan to do an activity on campus as long as it gets approved.	00:11:52
	We collect just a campus day where we can collect some data as well.	00:11:57
	To try and get some of that data and then again our Walmart collections.	00:12:01
	I want to jump to the SFS which is a strategy.	00:12:06
	Success Survey.	00:12:09
	This is the data we collect from students.	00:12:10
	Issaquah.	00:12:14
	By high school students was reported to be 16.6%.	00:12:16
	That's about steady for what it's been.	00:12:21
	From previous year.	00:12:23
	Marijuana use decreased according to middle school representation.	00:12:25
	Last year was at 81, eight point 1%. This year it was represented at 2.9%.	00:12:30
	I do want to put the caveat that we have had a decrease in number of participants.	00:12:37
	From middle school, High school.	00:12:41
	Participating partly was due to enrollment. Our enrollment numbers at both the middle school and high school are down.	00:12:44
	But also overall participation as far as getting them to complete.	00:12:49
	Survey. So we have some ideas on how we can hopefully get them to complete the survey next year as well and increase those	00:12:53
	numbers.	00:12:57
	Students continue to identify resilience factors such as wanting to take care of their health and.	00:13:02
	Affect the future plans. There's a reason not to drinking.	00:13:07
	Or use of other substances.	00:13:11
	Is a continuing reason why they're not using.	00:13:13
	And then other data. Students generally believe 90%.	00:13:18
	Or greater, that their parents think it is wrong.	00:13:22
	For them to use alcohol, marijuana and E cigarettes which is a strong.	00:13:25
	Protect the factor.	00:13:30
	Perception of harm for using low substances continues to increase among middle school youth.	00:13:31
	So they're understanding each thing of substances is a.	00:13:37
	A detriment and it is harmful.	00:13:40
	And then pass to your sadness and openness, hopelessness and suicidal. I didn't.	00:13:42
	Ideation and continues to show a decrease both in the middle of.	00:13:47
	The other things I want to print out.	00:13:53
	Is uh.	00:13:56
	We continue to do the Touch My breath at the middle school and high school we are in talks with.	00:13:58
	The charter school.	00:14:02
	Cottonwood Guy to provide a presentation at Cottonwood Valley.	00:14:04
	We just need to set a date with them.	00:14:08
	And then still waiting to get back from Magdalena about providing a.	00:14:10
	A presentation for the middle school high school at Magdalena so we can reach their students as well and help provide them	00:14:15
	information about the harm of vaping.	00:14:19
	As a.	00:14:24
	Relates to the body.	00:14:26
	Any questions?	00:14:28
	Thank you, Chris. Thank you very much.	00:14:34
	Thank you.	00:14:36
	But.	00:14:40
	Former mayor and City Council members, my name is Peter Otero.	00:14:44
	I requested some time today to talk about the project.	00:14:48
	That is uh, uh.	00:14:51
	Happening up on Evergreen.	00:14:53
	The wastewater.	00:14:54
	Drainage system.	00:14:56
	The concern that I'm bringing to the table.	00:14:59
	His statement?	00:15:01
	I got 4 up on that road.	00:15:03
	You know I.	00:15:06
	I have been pretty happy for the community up there to.	00:15:07
	Be able to get sewage and sold and stuff.	00:15:10
	But as we proceeded through this.	00:15:13
	Project uh.	00:15:15
	The roads have been a nightmare.	00:15:16
	The management.	00:15:18
	Construction has been pretty rough.	00:15:20
	Umm.	00:15:22
	Cycle because.	00:15:26
	They went directing traffic by. They sent me through the weeds.	00:15:27
	OK, I.	00:15:31
	Willing to be patient and I'm, you know.	00:15:34
	Happy to see this through for a year or however long it's going to take to get to the end.	00:15:39
	I want to know that the city is actually planning on repeating that road.	00:15:44
	I talked to your project manager.	00:15:48
	Like a week or two ago.	00:15:51
	He explained to me that the city ran out of money.	00:15:53
	For the materials finished plumbing that road.	00:15:56
	And I'm sorry to say that again.	00:15:59
	So the project manager.	00:16:02
	Said that the reason you guys are selling right now?	00:16:04
	Versus repaving.	00:16:08
	Is because funds ran out.	00:16:10
	To get all the pipes and stuff that you need.	00:16:13
	Finish the drainage.	00:16:15
	Something like.	00:16:17
	And you guys are going to have to dig it up again.	00:16:18
	And get the money for.	00:16:21
	That's the project manager.	00:16:22
	The contracting firm or.	00:16:24
	Lloyd and I told you that.	00:16:26
	I don't know this.	00:16:28
	And he said.	00:16:31
	Yeah, we.	00:16:32
	Want to repave that road?	00:16:33
	But we're not gonna.	00:16:36
	Pay that right now having to dig it up.	00:16:37
	In the future.	00:16:40
	For the additional pipes, right?	00:16:41
	Well, I don't want.	00:16:43
	Evergreen to be put.	00:16:44
	On the back burner.	00:16:46
	As far as getting that road repaved?	00:16:47
	I would really hate to see it turn into someday.	00:16:50
	That then turns into never.	00:16:53
	And so I was hoping that you guys might be.	00:16:55
	Provide me with information on.	00:16:58
	Yeah.	00:17:00
	Ruby is not here.	00:17:03
	Oh, Ruby, that's the first time I heard the Lord didn't mention that to me.	00:17:05
	I had not either, so I'll have to recheck with Lloyd on that.	00:17:18
	And he's not. He's away on vacation until tomorrow.	00:17:23
	But I will check and I haven't contact you. You live out that way.	00:17:26
	Because I've had, I've had multiple complaints. There's no question about people damaging the, you know, the road and.	00:17:30
	People's mailboxes are being pushed down by.	00:17:36
	Gravel and so forth.	00:17:38
	But you know, we spent.	00:17:40
	What 15,000,000?	00:17:42
	10 million for that project just for that area, so.	00:17:46
	But uh.	00:17:49
	I'll get back with you. I was under the impression the road's gonna be repaved.	00:17:50
	That's what I am hoping for. Did you talk to him just recently or?	00:17:54
	It was like 2 weeks ago.	00:17:58
	I can't win that. You guys were just gonna jump seal that. We'll have a talk with them.	00:18:00
	OK, make sure.	00:18:05
	Contact. I'm going to ask him to contact everybody down there to let them know what the projects about.	00:18:06
	OK. That that would be helpful and like if we could just get.	00:18:12
	Timeline and some assurance that will actually be repaid. We flood out there a lot.	00:18:14
	From the Mesa and chip sales, not going to stand out.	00:18:20
	Water and stuff so.	00:18:24
	I think, I think something we have to look at Donald.	00:18:25
	And I was on Ruby. I hadn't heard that there was shortfall on.	00:18:29
	I'm finishing the project.	00:18:33
	Is that something about meeting another 3,000,000 bucks for let me. I'll probably have some answers by the end of the meeting, so	00:18:43
	I'm gonna.	00:18:46
	Extra.	00:18:50
	OK, OK. Yeah. I just, I want to bring some attention to it, make sure it doesn't.	00:18:51
	Get forgotten.	00:18:55
	And you know, I guess if we have to come back to this in the future, I'll.	00:18:57
	Make sure to.	00:19:01
	Have a team of neighbors and pitchboards and torches and all that.	00:19:02
	Well, we can always take the sewer out.	00:19:07
	Not even gonna get the Superman. I just want to say that everybody in the city is born the.	00:19:09
	Cost of that, we're getting this sewer up there. So you know, I think there's got to be a little give and take there. But I think	00:19:15
	you're right about the pavement. I think it needs to be repaid.	00:19:19
	But.	00:19:24
	You know, there's a little bit of.	00:19:26
	Pain when we grow.	00:19:28
	What's going to happen up there? Anybody that has less than 3/4 of an acre?	00:19:31
	Is not going to be able to get a septic tank.	00:19:34
	And so your land and your house.	00:19:37
	Won't be able to have.	00:19:41
	Sewer if we don't have the sewer.	00:19:42
	System.	00:19:45
	Because that's the last part of the sword.	00:19:46
	And the city we've been all through, it's been.	00:19:47
	$60 million project.	00:19:51
	Over the last 15 years.	00:19:53
	But that's that's part of it. So that's.	00:19:55
	But I'm going to text him right now about that. I'll sit here and wait just in case you actually break into the meeting and.	00:19:57
	I will do that, but I appreciate you coming by.	00:20:07
	Yeah. Yes, Sir. Yes, Sir.	00:20:09
	Three more meter, 1 watery.	00:20:23
	Turn down the background.	00:20:28
	But we don't need water.	00:20:31
	The.	00:20:34
	It might be a separate.	00:20:41
	Issue, but I'm not sure about the.	00:20:42
	The water project out there, I think.	00:20:45
	Really. We've asked for monies from the.	00:20:46
	Federal Representatives for Water Project.	00:20:50
	But that area I didn't.	00:20:55
	I didn't realize. The only thought I know about is up there. Is that the?	00:20:57
	The tank.	00:21:01
	And the water pressure.	00:21:02
	As low out of where you're at because the tank elevation.	00:21:03
	And the elevation of the city, but that elevation.	00:21:07
	And then we put booster pumps in there is going to cause more problems.	00:21:10
	Stream. So that's that's been the problem there with the.	00:21:13
	For the pressure.	00:21:16
	And Mr. Mayor.	00:21:18
	Senator Heinrich's office contacted me yesterday.	00:21:19
	And uh.	00:21:23
	The water tank project.	00:21:25
	For lack of a better phrase, Leach line project.	00:21:27
	As many again through the first step of the.	00:21:30
	Federal budget so.	00:21:33
	Fingers crossed that it keeps moving forward.	00:21:35
	Noted. I just.	00:21:44
	I think he's in.	00:21:47
	Laughlin or Las Vegas or something but.	00:21:48
	He better get away from the slot.	00:21:50
	Otherwise, I'll call him and put him on the air.	00:21:53
	So anyway, thank you for bringing that up and the wire.	00:21:56
	I'll look into the water thing. I'm not sure about the.	00:22:00
	About the line.	00:22:04
	OK, well here's the answer.	00:22:07
	Well, a minute.	00:22:13
	It is.	00:22:15
	Or his answer was no, but I don't know what what the no was for.	00:22:18
	And, Mr. Mayor, just one other point.	00:22:24
	And as a matter of fact, the.	00:22:26
	Ordinance for.	00:22:28
	Publications on the agenda later, but.	00:22:30
	This source of funding for this project doesn't include roads, and it doesn't include water. It's only wastewater.	00:22:33
	Are we paving it?	00:22:40
	We've got a lot of Rd. projects, but every year we apply through the dot for three separate.	00:22:49
	Funding sources the math Local Government Growth Fund and the TPF Fund.	00:22:55
	But that street so long it probably be 3 years worth of funding.	00:22:59
	To get the entire Rd. paved so.	00:23:03
	We'll put it on the list.	00:23:05
	And the Council approves what we, what we apply for.	00:23:06
	His answer is not not going to pave it.	00:23:11
	So let me let.	00:23:14
	Yeah, that's what he says.	00:23:16
	So let me let me get that clarified when he comes back into town tomorrow.	00:23:18
	And see what the money might be that.	00:23:22
	Because usually when we do a road project, you know, sewer project.	00:23:24
	We pay specifically the areas that was cut.	00:23:28
	You know we do that. We don't just chip seal that.	00:23:31
	So I'm not sure exactly why that.	00:23:34
	Because we've paved everything that we've always.	00:23:37
	That was what was done with the sewer projects.	00:23:40
	Again, if you. Again this is kind of a short text, but.	00:23:42
	The answer is no.	00:23:47
	But then let me get that clarified as to how we can.	00:23:48
	Go by trying to get it paved and how much of it?	00:23:51
	No.	00:23:53
	Please, next week. Next week would be good.	00:23:58
	And he says, we did talk about it. They were only going to patch David.	00:24:01
	So there will have.	00:24:06
	Hatch Paper.	00:24:07
	The threat.	00:24:09
	But then the whole Rd.	00:24:10
	Probably is going to be another project, but let me find out, I'll meet with you next week.	00:24:11
	I'll get that. Yeah, sure.	00:24:15
	No, Yeah, yeah.	00:24:17
	Mr. Mayor. Mr. Mayor.	00:24:19
	Do we still have that?	00:24:22
	We had a list at one time about.	00:24:23
	Roads we were doing kind of a priority.	00:24:25
	Don't have that anymore or I haven't. I haven't seen an update or.	00:24:29
	Yeah, I know. I think we have. We, we.	00:24:33
	I don't have a list.	00:24:36
	And doing major, I mean.	00:24:38
	I've spent millions on Monsoneris and.	00:24:39
	Even California was repaved at one time and.	00:24:43
	You know Bullock was.	00:24:46
	$5 million project.	00:24:47
	College was done.	00:24:49
	Franklin was done.	00:24:51
	So you know we are doing Cuba Rd.	00:24:53
	We're just finishing up the paperwork to get that finished.	00:24:56
	So we're doing that and they're.	00:25:00
	Those are the roles that we have that are the main thoroughfares.	00:25:01
	Residential roads we have not done.	00:25:05
	Evergreen definitely needs to be done. It's a major, it's a major thoroughfare.	00:25:08
	That goes to your houses and goes to the fire Academy.	00:25:12
	And we do. I think that needs to get done.	00:25:15
	No question about it.	00:25:18
	You're welcome.	00:25:21
	Anyone else?	00:25:22
	Public forum.	00:25:24
	Oh, you're not that public.	00:25:27
	All right, this is the employee forum.	00:25:31
	Mr. Mayor, Mr. When you discussed that we just had.	00:25:34
	Probably thinking of it spring as well 'cause.	00:25:39
	Right. Yeah, OK.	00:25:41
	Well.	00:25:43
	Spring Street is another project, but that's Hwy. 60.	00:25:44
	And Hwy. 60 will be done.	00:25:48
	We're looking for it's four years.	00:25:51
	So we're looking for funds. We had a meeting last week.	00:25:53
	With the highway department and Mold and Corbin.	00:25:56
	Who's designing it?	00:25:59
	And we have to do the water.	00:26:00
	And sure first.	00:26:03
	So, and that's a.	00:26:05
	$4 million project.	00:26:06
	So we're looking for monies to do that.	00:26:07
	But and they should get done.	00:26:09
	It needs to get done before they put down new pavement.	00:26:11
	So thank you, Mr. Mark.	00:26:14
	Cheyenne, what are you doing? So I just wanted to give you guys a quick update. The paper that I just passed out is all of our	00:26:17
	conventions and our rentals up to date.	00:26:21
	Umm, so you'll see the highlighted portion is what we have brought in.	00:26:27
	This year so far.	00:26:30
	Our biggest rental to date was actually last week, Monday through Wednesday, and that was for the bond technician.	00:26:31
	Foundation.	00:26:37
	They have a national conference that they bring down during that week and they utilize the Convention Center.	00:26:38
	Like I said, Monday through Wednesday.	00:26:44
	And so they brought us in.	00:26:46
	A lot of money and we're we're definitely very thankful for them as a.	00:26:47
	Busy week for us, but we made it through.	00:26:50
	We've also had just other people in there just.	00:26:54
	Private rentals, we've had kind of anything that you can imagine in.	00:26:56
	If you guys have any questions about.	00:27:00
	Convention Center rental specifically, feel free to reach outlet me know.	00:27:02
	Otherwise, I also wanted to talk about hot August nights.	00:27:05
	That was on the Plaza this last weekend.	00:27:08
	We had.	00:27:10
	Seven different bands that performed on the gazebo.	00:27:11
	It was a Friday and Saturday night event.	00:27:15
	Friday night we just had music and food vendors out there and then Saturday night Sole brought his Sakura Wrestling team out and	00:27:17
	they were wrestling out on the.	00:27:21
	Pavement at a little tournament, people really enjoyed that.	00:27:25
	So everything for Hierarchy's Nights went well.	00:27:28
	Now we're getting ready for the pro rodeo and all the stuff for County Fair, so we're just right on to the next one.	00:27:31
	How was the wrestling?	00:27:38
	That was good. I had told Cheyenne and Daryl when I met with them that.	00:27:40
	I would test run it with just our group just to kind of get a feel for the.	00:27:44
	Venue and how we can do it.	00:27:48
	And once we got out there and we set up the map.	00:27:50
	We just practice. They're called a practice on the Plaza or twilight night.	00:27:53
	And brought the kids out there. They wrestle a little bit, they practice a little bit. And the music was playing in the	00:27:56
	background. The parents really seemed to enjoy the event. They brought some chairs, hung out.	00:28:01
	Had refreshments.	00:28:06
	So I talked to Cheyenne and said we could probably grow that next year. I cover with.	00:28:07
	Could add a three on three basketball tournament as long as the city is OK with it to the attention.	00:28:12
	Some ******** out there and the wrestling team could.	00:28:16
	Could handle doing the whole event.	00:28:19
	When it comes to giving some entertainment for the kiddos and adults out there, just something for them to do. But.	00:28:21
	It was more of a test run.	00:28:27
	But it was a great success. Everybody really liked it and seen Mr. Romero there and.	00:28:28
	Few other counselors.	00:28:32
	Go by and it's good. It was really good. I think it can be something really big. We just.	00:28:33
	I don't want to invite a bunch of out of towners.	00:28:37
	When I don't know if I can do a good job at the event.	00:28:39
	'Cause then you don't get a.	00:28:42
	First, you know, the second chance, make a first impression on those events, Yeah.	00:28:43
	It won't come back if it's not a good event.	00:28:47
	So we're going to make it. They've been coming back with all the.	00:28:49
	Events that you've had, I'm just waiting for the.	00:28:52
	WWE Raw, Are you gonna have that? That would be cool.	00:28:55
	At least get once a year that.	00:29:00
	And then I just also wanted to give a huge shout out to Kevin and Adam on the Plaza. I really wouldn't be able to do any of the	00:29:04
	events on the Plaza without them. So they're a huge help for us. And then lefty, also lefty round sound for me for the whole	00:29:08
	event, so.	00:29:12
	Huge thank you to all of them, the whole all of Lloyd's crew. They really helped us out with all of our events on the Plaza.	00:29:15
	Good job and to you also great.	00:29:21
	You couldn't wait till all the other guys in the back row wanted to speak at the end of the meeting.	00:29:25
	Come on, you guys want to make public comments too?	00:29:30
	And look at this, look at the money she's making here.	00:29:35
	The important thing?	00:29:38
	OK, we shall move on to all these.	00:29:40
	Different things that we've got ordinances for.	00:29:44
	And they're they're.	00:29:47
	Ordinances.	00:29:48
	Donald, you want to just go through all the different ordinances. You saw that?	00:29:51
	Yes, Sir, the first one is.	00:29:55
	Exactly how we did the.	00:29:58
	The what it's called the Hope forms area in Chaparral.	00:30:01
	So we just mimic that same.	00:30:06
	Coordinates and.	00:30:09
	Both are for publication only.	00:30:11
	But it's a scaled.	00:30:12
	Payment plan.	00:30:15
	We're trying to encourage people to sign up to the on the sewer system as soon as possible. It's cheaper in the first year.	00:30:17
	It's a little more expensive and it's $1000.	00:30:23
	The third year and ask her.	00:30:26
	And I don't believe we allow payment plans after the third year.	00:30:28
	So we're trying to encourage people.	00:30:32
	To hook up to our system and as you said earlier.	00:30:34
	The state's going to require people to do it.	00:30:37
	With if they're on septic systems and if they need to replace it, they won't be able to.	00:30:39
	We're also trying to help people not to pay all the maintenance for a septic system. It all protects our groundwater.	00:30:44
	The second one is.	00:30:49
	A quick question there.	00:30:51
	Now how do? How do you come to?	00:30:53
	To those rates.	00:30:55
	How did you come up with $100?	00:30:59
	Next week.	00:31:02
	But why did we pick that number?	00:31:08
	Compared to other cities.	00:31:23
	The hook up is and we've always kept it that way.	00:31:24
	Is thousands of dollars less.	00:31:28
	I was under the impression that.	00:31:33
	It was uh, uh.	00:31:35
	The amount?	00:31:36
	That was charged for the hookup was.	00:31:37
	Was roughly or exactly the amount it costs the city.	00:31:40
	To hook it up.	00:31:43
	Well, the other part of the impact to the sewer plant.	00:31:45
	Because more people hook up, the more impact is on a sewer plant, so.	00:31:48
	That's got to be kind of factored in, but.	00:31:52
	I think.	00:31:54
	Ostensibly, that's where the fee comes from.	00:31:55
	Is the cost of hooking it up in the material.	00:31:58
	Which doesn't take into account.	00:32:01
	Really, the impact on the sewer plant.	00:32:04
	If it needs a coming of 10,000 people.	00:32:07
	All of a sudden hooked up.	00:32:09
	Our sewer plant would have to be so that.	00:32:11
	That has to be amortized into the.	00:32:13
	The bill, but it's not a lot.	00:32:15
	And then there's a graduated break, right?	00:32:30
	Yes Sir, you hook up now compared to what you would.	00:32:33
	Hey, 2-3 years from now.	00:32:36
	Yes, Sir, during the first year 650.	00:32:38
	Following the first year, it's 1000.	00:32:42
	And it depends on if you're within the city limits.	00:32:44
	And different things, but they're essentially the same thing but.	00:32:47
	By early.	00:32:51
	We can help you get a payment plan.	00:32:52
	You know, some people aren't going to have $1000 or.	00:32:55
	Even 6:50 and we have a.	00:32:58
	And amortization schedule for them to get it paid off at $50.00 a month?	00:33:00
	The second ordinance.	00:33:05
	Is in relation to this project.	00:33:07
	This is amending our loan.	00:33:10
	And grant agreement with the Clean Water State Revolving Fund.	00:33:14
	For the wastewater treatment plant.	00:33:18
	And it is.	00:33:20
	Increasing our own amount.	00:33:22
	By 100,000.	00:33:23
	And loan principal forgiveness of 400,000, so we're getting 500,000 for 100,000.	00:33:24
	And these are both for advertisement only.	00:33:30
	And that had to do with the.	00:33:32
	Belt filter press.	00:33:35
	And the sewer plant?	00:33:38
	Because the cost of.	00:33:41
	For redoing that which we need to do right now.	00:33:43
	Ran over and then we applied to the state. Ruby did, Donald did.	00:33:45
	And, umm.	00:33:50
	They gave us a forgetfully wonderful needed 500,000 more.	00:33:51
	And they actually gave us.	00:33:55
	For 100,000 gave us another 400.	00:33:57
	That they forgive.	00:34:00
	So we've got 400,000 more to.	00:34:01
	Finish up the bell filter press.	00:34:03
	Mr. Mayor, I'm just going back to the.	00:34:06
	Last resolution.	00:34:09
	So briefly if they don't.	00:34:10
	What's the result if somebody doesn't connect?	00:34:13
	After the three-year period, there's no fine.	00:34:15
	But it will be on them.	00:34:19
	I don't know what the.	00:34:20
	Fee is going to be done in three years.	00:34:22
	It's also in the ordinance.	00:34:24
	Or the proposed ordinance.	00:34:26
	And I.	00:34:28
	When we first did.	00:34:31
	Back on Hope Farms and.	00:34:32
	Chaparral.	00:34:34
	It was through a USDA loan.	00:34:35
	And they forced us to have an ordinance that said.	00:34:37
	You have three years to be hooked up.	00:34:39
	Or we won't ever hook you up.	00:34:41
	And that's essentially what's in this proposed 1.	00:34:43
	Says again, it's just trying to.	00:34:45
	Encourage people to sign up as soon as possible. It's cheaper, we can finance it for them.	00:34:46
	It's better for the community, it's better for our groundwater.	00:34:51
	Is there some sort of a?	00:34:54
	Like, I mean we.	00:34:56
	We're at the beginning of the project, but there'll be some sort of advertisement for this or some sort. I mean, I'm just gonna go	00:34:58
	into publication, but some simpler form for people to.	00:35:02
	See and know that that's a possibility, but we probably need to get a fire up for all the people that live up there.	00:35:06
	We'll try to get that. That's a good point.	00:35:12
	Let's show U.S. Open. So let's say that it's a.	00:35:15
	Somebody owns it, they sell it.	00:35:18
	And the.	00:35:20
	Current owners.	00:35:21
	Do not do it within the three years.	00:35:22
	And then you come in and buy it.	00:35:25
	So you're not allowed to.	00:35:27
	Hook it up because it's already been passed for three years. But it wasn't.	00:35:29
	Oh, I mean, that's a.	00:35:34
	Curveball.	00:35:35
	Yeah, I know.	00:35:37
	I think they probably get another shot at it for the first year.	00:35:38
	Mr. Mayor has ever changed his hands.	00:35:42
	That we had enough.	00:35:44
	You know, doing a job like that where an uncommitted job was done and then you have to.	00:35:46
	They have to amend it.	00:35:51
	Like a permit from what I've seen and what I dealt with.	00:35:52
	Finite stack system. For instance. It was put on, permitted and then.	00:35:57
	A gas meter is removed because of a gasoline. Then everything has to be brought up to code, so meaning.	00:36:01
	When they sold the property.	00:36:05
	You would think it would have to be.	00:36:06
	That the people that sold it would have to.	00:36:08
	Either responsible party to.	00:36:10
	You know, follow the ordinance or the city.	00:36:13
	Ordinance to do.	00:36:15
	What was asked of them?	00:36:16
	Something in that personal.	00:36:18
	It'd be like paying the property taxes that are due on the property.	00:36:19
	If you still owe that.	00:36:22
	You could probably put that into your purchase. Agree. Yeah.	00:36:24
	Probably be wise to do.	00:36:27
	Maybe we should look into that, I mean.	00:36:30
	**** because not that doesn't happen a lot, you know what I mean? For sure.	00:36:32
	If you buy it on a real estate contract or whatever, they're not gonna.	00:36:36
	Want to do all these?	00:36:39
	It will happen out there.	00:36:43
	But anyway.	00:36:44
	These are for publication.	00:36:45
	So if we could get a motion.	00:36:47
	Publish these.	00:36:49
	Second moved and seconded. Any further discussion.	00:36:51
	All in favor.	00:36:54
	These are the ordinances.	00:36:56
	Judge is here.	00:36:58
	For the uniformed traffic ordinance.	00:36:59
	And the updated penalty assessments.	00:37:02
	So that's just to comply with.	00:37:07
	What's going on in the state now?	00:37:10
	I think we need. Did we? Was it the vote? I'm sorry, should have been.	00:37:13
	No, that's just a public. It's not an ordinance. There's two different ordinance for publication.	00:37:17
	Yeah, Yep.	00:37:21
	So what was that A?	00:37:23
	Was that a combined motion or is it just for two 05/25/08? I thought it was a combined motion for publication.	00:37:24
	We can do them separately if that's better.	00:37:33
	So let's do the first one. Ordinance #25-08-19A.	00:37:36
	For publication.	00:37:41
	My motion, OK.	00:37:43
	Moved and seconded all in favor.	00:37:44
	And be ordinance #25-08-19-B.	00:37:46
	Moved and seconded all in favor.	00:37:52
	Aye, now the ordinances that would be accepted.	00:37:54
	Are these two ordinances we can do? Ordinance #25-08-19C.	00:37:59
	Uniform Traffic ordinance update.	00:38:03
	So that's an action item.	00:38:06
	And this is just to comply with the.	00:38:08
	Current state statutes I guess.	00:38:11
	Mr. Fleming.	00:38:16
	Passage work.	00:38:18
	CNN.	00:38:24
	Second moved and seconded discussion.	00:38:26
	Roll call.	00:38:29
	Yes.	00:38:35
	Yes, Councillor Ocampo.	00:38:37
	Councillor Ogame.	00:38:41
	Councillor Partridge.	00:38:43
	Councillor Romero, Yes.	00:38:45
	Yes.	00:38:47
	Obey ordinance #25-08-19D. Update the penalty assessments.	00:38:49
	Mr. Mayor.	00:38:57
	Ordinance #25-0.	00:39:00
	Dash 19D.	00:39:03
	And seconded discussion.	00:39:06
	Well, calculate so, Mr. Mayor.	00:39:08
	The discussion, OK.	00:39:10
	So this.	00:39:13
	If the agenda items pass.	00:39:15
	At a later date as well too.	00:39:18
	And this would be null and.	00:39:20
	That we're doing. Is that what would happen?	00:39:22
	The agenda item that you're talking about as far as designating the Segura County Magistrate Court.	00:39:25
	As having jurisdiction.	00:39:31
	Is not to abolish the court, it's just to look into it. It's not a matter of.	00:39:33
	This passing this resolution.	00:39:38
	Negate these ordinances yet.	00:39:41
	Once the resolution is made.	00:39:43
	That you? I think you're referring to that one.	00:39:45
	Once that resolution is made, an appointment of a committee.	00:39:47
	And the committee then has to come back.	00:39:51
	To the City Council and you have to have.	00:39:53
	3/4 of the.	00:39:55
	Of the I think, I think just my question was that it would that.	00:39:57
	I mean, we can get into those later to get into that later, but as far as this it goes into effect and then.	00:40:00
	If it does, go if it does.	00:40:06
	Go through all the steps in the future.	00:40:08
	These will all be sunset area.	00:40:10
	Yeah, but we have to. We have a current judge.	00:40:14
	We're updating it now.	00:40:17
	So now roll call.	00:40:18
	Councillor Travis Lopez, Yes.	00:40:20
	Councillor Dean.	00:40:22
	Yes, Councillor Fleming.	00:40:23
	Yes.	00:40:24
	Councillor O'gin.	00:40:28
	Yes, Councillor Partridge, Yes.	00:40:29
	Answer Romero.	00:40:31
	Yes.	00:40:32
	Passes.	00:40:34
	All right, now the.	00:40:36
	Resolution 25-08-19.	00:40:37
	Is local government planning grant application?	00:40:45
	And Kristen, are you here for that?	00:40:49
	Yes, you are.	00:40:51
	We're happy to have.	00:40:53
	Mrga to help us with this.	00:40:54
	Hello everyone.	00:40:58
	Yes, so I have been working with the New Mexico Finance Authority. Sorry, that's loud. Umm.	00:40:59
	On an application to help the City of Socorro develop a new economic development feasibility plan.	00:41:05
	Because the last plan.	00:41:12
	Has been many moons ago.	00:41:14
	And the work that merged has been doing for the Economic Recovery project from 2020 to 2023.	00:41:16
	Is a lot of those reports are what is being submitted?	00:41:22
	On behalf of the Cities of Coral for grant writing purposes because it's more current.	00:41:26
	And so.	00:41:30
	Merged, being the Middle Rio Grande Economic Development Association, wanted to help the city as a coral position itself.	00:41:31
	To be.	00:41:38
	Able to apply for more funding and.	00:41:39
	This application through the New Mexico Finance Authority will.	00:41:41
	Provide $75,000 to the City of the Socorro to hire consultants.	00:41:46
	To carry out that process and so I.	00:41:51
	The resolution is a mandatory request from the New Mexico Finance Authority.	00:41:54
	Once we have the resolution, if it does pass.	00:41:59
	We we attach that to the application, the application Donald and I have been working together and Lena.	00:42:01
	It is ready to go as soon as this is finalized. I did put in the application.	00:42:07
	That we would like to have from October 1st, 2025 until June 30th of 26 to complete the.	00:42:12
	Annual report because.	00:42:19
	What I've seen in my experience is a lot of people think you can turn out these reports in a couple months.	00:42:21
	It needs the time.	00:42:26
	To be done well and I think 8 months is a good.	00:42:27
	Marker for that.	00:42:30
	And I've also reached out to many colleagues across New Mexico and, you know, United States to get a list of.	00:42:31
	Umm, potential consultants so that we, the city of Socorro, can put it out for RFP and then we could.	00:42:39
	Everyone can score it, whoever that committee is.	00:42:45
	To determine the best.	00:42:48
	The best fit for.	00:42:50
	The city of Socorro and so we are here to do that today to.	00:42:51
	Hopefully position Sapporo to be better.	00:42:55
	Prepared to receive more funding from state and local federal levels.	00:42:58
	Instrument I'll make a motion to pass resolution #25-08-19A.	00:43:03
	Question. So is this pretty well that we're going to get it?	00:43:10
	Yeah.	00:43:13
	And we also just select the.	00:43:15
	The City Council know that I have been working with.	00:43:17
	Terracon, the consultants to do the due diligence study at the industrial park.	00:43:19
	That has we did the walkthrough two weeks ago at the industrial park and so.	00:43:24
	Hopefully we will have that due diligence study done, which is another.	00:43:28
	Requirement for businesses to move into the industrial park, especially if they need lending from banks.	00:43:32
	Banks require due diligence, so we're working on that and we're also working with the Department of Transportation group.	00:43:37
	To start a housing study. So there's a lot of good things happening right now and I'm really excited to see the progress.	00:43:43
	Now that we have you here, you want to just briefly talk about the Community Kitchen?	00:43:49
	How good that was. Oh yes, we recently had an open house at the Sapporo Regional Commercial Kitchen.	00:43:56
	We had a three phase project for that.	00:44:01
	Commercial Kitchen.	00:44:03
	Merge that was able to put $50,000 into that kitchen.	00:44:05
	It was very well attended. We actually is. The exciting part about this is that the New Mexico Economic Development Department	00:44:09
	brought all their staff from across the state and they want to do multiple tours because.	00:44:15
	Merge that was able to create a tangible project in other communities.	00:44:23
	Are not, and so they're trying to showcase this pilot project.	00:44:27
	To other communities as hey, you can do this with this funding stream.	00:44:31
	We want to see more projects that are becoming business and computers creating jobs.	00:44:35
	Agri business, you know.	00:44:40
	Opportunities and so we received a lot of.	00:44:42
	Positive. Umm.	00:44:46
	Feedback and a lot of.	00:44:48
	You know a lot of.	00:44:50
	Publicity for this event and so.	00:44:52
	And another benefit of this is that the kitchen has now.	00:44:54
	Has now caught up with their rent with the city until September of 2026. So I'm really happy that they're in a very sustainable	00:44:58
	place right now.	00:45:02
	And we've also had new people come from Berlin to use the kitchen, which is the whole goal of making it regional is that.	00:45:06
	This is the most inexpensive commercial kitchen in the middle Rio Grande Valley.	00:45:13
	And it makes more sense to drive your.	00:45:18
	And use the kitchen for $9 an hour than it does to pay.	00:45:20
	$20.00 an hour in Albuquerque and so.	00:45:23
	We're doing some really good things, I think, for the community and.	00:45:26
	It's exciting, so.	00:45:29
	Thank you for being the point person on that and then all in favor.	00:45:33
	Aye.	00:45:40
	The Socorro electric Co-op.	00:45:41
	Economic development rate possibilities.	00:45:44
	If Manny, well, it's it's it's.	00:45:47
	Nice that you mentioned that.	00:45:51
	But we're we're right in the middle of mediation.	00:45:53
	With the.	00:45:56
	The core, which has been.	00:45:57
	Private. It's not not.	00:46:00
	What do they call it?	00:46:03
	Is there a word for that confidential? I don't see the wrong.	00:46:05
	I don't say the wrong word.	00:46:08
	It's confidential.	00:46:09
	That's between tech.	00:46:11
	Electric OP.	00:46:13
	And the city of Socorro.	00:46:14
	And it.	00:46:16
	Basically revolves around.	00:46:17
	The PRC.	00:46:19
	Declaration.	00:46:23
	Penalizing the cocoa.	00:46:25
	For not following through with rapes.	00:46:28
	And it includes economic development rate.	00:46:31
	And includes LED lighting rates.	00:46:34
	It includes.	00:46:37
	It's going to be better not say anymore.	00:46:39
	Everybody.	00:46:42
	OK, so anyway.	00:46:45
	But we are in, we are in mediation.	00:46:47
	With that and a bunch of lawyers and PRC.	00:46:50
	You name it. And Donald too, by the way.	00:46:54
	And Don Steinert.	00:46:57
	And Don Stein Stein.	00:46:58
	OK, so that's done. Now the next one is the one that's.	00:47:01
	Designated segregate. County Magistrate Court is having jurisdiction over municipal ordinance.	00:47:04
	I brought that up on the agenda because.	00:47:08
	In the long haul over 10 years.	00:47:11
	The city has lost about $1,000,000.	00:47:14
	With a Municipal Court.	00:47:16
	And I'm not sure whether we made any headway in.	00:47:18
	Cleaning up the city.	00:47:21
	Stopping the dog problem.	00:47:23
	Or other things that are.	00:47:24
	Occurring.	00:47:26
	In your package, you'll also see the city of.	00:47:27
	Tier C and the city of Berlin.	00:47:30
	Has the TRC has accomplished it They.	00:47:32
	Have cancelled their municipal.	00:47:35
	Belen is looking at it.	00:47:38
	There's an article in the In your packet that talks about Berlin.	00:47:40
	They haven't done it. There's not something that's been done.	00:47:43
	But the process and I heard other counselors when we were talking about the raise.	00:47:46
	At the municipal.	00:47:50
	That they asked that well.	00:47:52
	I think Mr. Salome asked.	00:47:54
	What can we look into depth as to what the Municipal Court is?	00:47:57
	Is doing and how it's doing it.	00:48:01
	And then how it's?	00:48:03
	Productive for the city to be.	00:48:05
	And that was funding the Municipal Court.	00:48:07
	And so there is a process that the state legislature has put together.	00:48:11
	But.	00:48:16
	Involves a resolution.	00:48:17
	Where the resolution then?	00:48:19
	Will appoint a committee.	00:48:21
	To evaluate the subject and then we'll come back to the.	00:48:23
	Council to for the approval or disapproval.	00:48:26
	Of their. Of their.	00:48:30
	A solution.	00:48:32
	So I am asking the City Council to.	00:48:35
	Pass This resolution designates Sakura County magazine court.	00:48:38
	As having jurisdiction over municipal ordinances.	00:48:41
	And so that that's why I brought this.	00:48:44
	So.	00:48:47
	If somebody was moving, Seconded.	00:48:50
	Mr. Salami.	00:48:53
	Statement my my point was.	00:48:55
	Bringing up the question that.	00:48:59
	The general fund.	00:49:02
	Is being used to support.	00:49:04
	Municipal Court, OK, so.	00:49:05
	Pulling out of the general fund, the taxpayers fund.	00:49:07
	To support the Municipal Court.	00:49:11
	And so our question as a Council.	00:49:13
	Is is the value that.	00:49:15
	The folks since the coral.	00:49:18
	Are receiving.	00:49:20
	Commensurate with the cost.	00:49:22
	That they're burying.	00:49:24
	The answer to that question may be yes, maybe.	00:49:25
	May be great.	00:49:28
	The answer to that question maybe?	00:49:30
	Well, you know, most of us maybe don't think that's the case. I don't know.	00:49:32
	So, umm.	00:49:36
	That's that's, I think the bottom line question that I that I wanted to pose to.	00:49:37
	To the Council, this is a vehicle to get that done.	00:49:42
	Right, so this.	00:49:46
	This is step one.	00:49:48
	Doesn't mean anything, it just means that we're going to look into it and then we have to follow another procedure.	00:49:51
	To get to their natural ordinance, Is that correct actually?	00:49:56
	3 procedures to talk.	00:49:59
	One procedure is to appoint a committee.	00:50:01
	Second procedure.	00:50:05
	Is to bring their.	00:50:06
	Suggestion back to the Council.	00:50:09
	Have the council vote on it.	00:50:11
	If the Council has 3/4 of the.	00:50:13
	Council voting to affirm what they're.	00:50:15
	Recommend.	00:50:18
	Then it still has to go to District Court.	00:50:19
	For the judge to approve it.	00:50:22
	It will not be. It will not be in.	00:50:24
	We can't do that unless they approve it.	00:50:27
	Yes, Sir, it's the Supreme Court that has to approve it. Supreme Court.	00:50:30
	Yes, Sir. So they have to approve it. So it's not.	00:50:33
	It's these steps that you have to take.	00:50:36
	But my but but no go ahead.	00:50:39
	Is the timing I mean Will it work because I mean?	00:50:42
	This is an election year, so everybody's going to be.	00:50:45
	Yeah, well.	00:50:49
	Other than that, you have to wait another four years.	00:50:51
	And my turn will be over.	00:50:53
	Mr. Mayor, Mr.	00:50:55
	Sister asked for Mr. Dean.	00:50:57
	The reason I brought it up is that we are under stress on the budget.	00:50:59
	When it comes to code enforcement.	00:51:03
	And and Police Department.	00:51:05
	The and I've talked to our chief.	00:51:07
	Of police chief We've got to cut down overtime.	00:51:11
	And I am looking.	00:51:14
	At things that.	00:51:15
	Not small things, big things.	00:51:17
	That would help our budget.	00:51:19
	That we could divert to more.	00:51:21
	Effective controls and as I said.	00:51:23
	In the time that I've been mayor.	00:51:26
	And different municipal judges.	00:51:28
	I just haven't seen the things that I've wanted to see.	00:51:31
	As far as people cleaning up their lots.	00:51:34
	Holding their dogs at a balance. It's not that we're not.	00:51:37
	Enforcing it.	00:51:40
	We're just not getting anybody to, really.	00:51:42
	Follow through.	00:51:44
	With, in my opinion, the judge.	00:51:45
	What they've been filed against, and that's what I want the committee to look at.	00:51:48
	Let me just finish. Hey judge, this is my, this is.	00:51:52
	This is my.	00:51:55
	Venue If you want to interrupt, please come up to the dais and take your turn.	00:51:57
	And finish.	00:52:01
	I know it's hitting you hard in your pocketbook, but don't be talking out of.	00:52:03
	Turn and I'm sure you've said the same thing to me.	00:52:07
	If I was in your court.	00:52:10
	Mr. Mayor, let me finish with Mr. Dean. I think you had a comment about what I said.	00:52:12
	Well, my other concern is what happens to the employee.	00:52:16
	One. But what happens to her if?	00:52:21
	It would be dissolved.	00:52:23
	Is she not currently a city employee?	00:52:25
	Cheers, but Donald has a better answer.	00:52:28
	Yes. And what TRC did was they offered the employees from the Municipal Court.	00:52:31
	Positions and in different departments and I thought that was a fairway to react.	00:52:36
	But to.	00:52:41
	Answer your question a little bit more.	00:52:42
	So if the resolution is adopted tonight.	00:52:44
	We have 15 days.	00:52:47
	To set up a committee that's prescribed.	00:52:49
	The law.	00:52:54
	It would be the mayor.	00:52:54
	The counselor. The municipal judge.	00:52:56
	The police chief and three members.	00:52:58
	Of the public chosen by the mayor, the councillor and the judge.	00:53:00
	And then they.	00:53:04
	Organized to have a meeting if we don't get all this done by December 31st.	00:53:05
	Whoever's elected a judge still has four years.	00:53:10
	But then you could.	00:53:13
	You could still do it in four years. You just.	00:53:14
	Starting the process now? Sure.	00:53:17
	But but Donald, just to clarify.	00:53:18
	Here's he did it a year before.	00:53:20
	Yes, the judge had a year and a half left on her time.	00:53:23
	Yeah, just Rogan.	00:53:26
	Mr. Mayor so.	00:53:28
	Why? Why do we need a resolution?	00:53:29
	To go over all the stuff that.	00:53:32
	All the questions that Councillor Sloan we asked, why can't there just be?	00:53:34
	Why can't the mayor and the councillor people meet with the judge?	00:53:37
	And figure out what the deficiencies are and how to solve them. And if you can't get past that?	00:53:41
	Then move forward with resolution. I just don't understand why we have to have a resolution.	00:53:46
	Go through this whole process when we can.	00:53:51
	You just set up your own little.	00:53:53
	Committee and talk about this kind of stuff.	00:53:55
	Before this.	00:53:57
	As I made it clear before.	00:54:00
	I can't say anything about.	00:54:02
	The court. The court is the court.	00:54:04
	This is my only vehicle to look inside the court.	00:54:07
	To see if it's being functional.	00:54:10
	And the state has provided the vehicle. The resolution gives you permission to look at their books.	00:54:12
	You can't look at their books right now.	00:54:20
	I can't really interfere with his court.	00:54:22
	But if you ask them, can you give you the information?	00:54:24
	You know, I think that.	00:54:28
	That's possible, but I'm just saying.	00:54:30
	I just don't see why we need to do a resolution when you can just talk to him.	00:54:32
	And get this squared away without having to go through this whole process.	00:54:36
	Dissolve a position that's elected.	00:54:39
	And who knows that the next judges can do they can do a better job at.	00:54:42
	That defines if you feel that.	00:54:46
	Judge Gutierrez, if he does get elected, that he's not.	00:54:49
	Enacting the finds that they that there should be. I just don't see the reason why.	00:54:52
	Communication can be had before.	00:54:57
	Having to go through all this trouble and.	00:54:59
	And time crunch and.	00:55:01
	When it could be very easily solved.	00:55:03
	MI Mr. Mayor.	00:55:06
	Just before we move on to Michelle's Lopez Oh Mr.	00:55:08
	Just before we move on.	00:55:10
	The steps prescribed.	00:55:12
	Or written in state statute.	00:55:13
	I get that, but I just don't understand why we have to do a resolution when you can talk to them first.	00:55:15
	And do it.	00:55:19
	Informally.	00:55:21
	I just.	00:55:24
	Because to me it sounds like we're doing this resolution with the intent.	00:55:26
	Of getting it done before the end of the year.	00:55:29
	Well, it's it's August, but.	00:55:33
	I'm not talking about this judge. I've had other judges. Mr.	00:55:35
	Judge Trujillo.	00:55:38
	But I just find it ironic that we're doing it right now.	00:55:39
	When it was when it was an issue for a race for the judge.	00:55:42
	And then now all of a sudden.	00:55:46
	You get my raise. I'm not I'm not understand that, but there was.	00:55:48
	For the last how many times we brought this up in 36 years as American?	00:55:52
	I think you're making a little. I think Mr. Monett is right.	00:55:55
	We're trying to get a vehicle that would have some.	00:55:59
	Some weight and what we're doing.	00:56:01
	And rather, if you want to do informal stuff, I'll make you the appointment. You can talk to the judge.	00:56:03
	Your friends, you can do whatever you want. I'm talking about.	00:56:07
	A committee.	00:56:10
	That would have some import.	00:56:11
	Into what we've accomplished rather than doing an informal thing. So formal committee without a resolution can afford $1,000,000.	00:56:13
	Deficit and 1:00 and we could afford $2,000,000 in electricity.	00:56:21
	Costs and we can afford upwards of $2,000,000 that we paid for.	00:56:24
	On the electricity.	00:56:30
	And costs and internal fees and all that.	00:56:32
	I think you're confusing your attack on me.	00:56:34
	I'm talking you, I'm just giving information.	00:56:36
	Facts we have not spent $2,000,000 on.	00:56:40
	One of the facts that we've lost $1,000,000 for the floor.	00:56:44
	Well, we want to do that if you want to talk on the subject.	00:56:48
	I'll be more than happy to talk about it.	00:56:51
	I've given you the facts on the judge.	00:56:54
	For the past.	00:56:56
	10 years.	00:56:57
	We've gone into hold $1,000,000.	00:56:58
	That money could be used for other things as far as enforcement.	00:57:01
	And cleaning up the city is concerned.	00:57:05
	That's my opinion.	00:57:07
	If you think you want to do an informal committee, that's if nobody wants to pass this resolution.	00:57:09
	That's fine by me.	00:57:15
	Just like you passed his raise.	00:57:16
	You know, that's fine with me too.	00:57:18
	Judge, you have a comment, you're welcome to come up and.	00:57:20
	Talk about it.	00:57:23
	Whatever is brought before the court.	00:57:33
	So if you want to.	00:57:36
	Have an informal media.	00:57:36
	Probably better because I can give you more information.	00:57:38
	I'm going to give you.	00:57:41
	One thing the code enforcement officer.	00:57:43
	In the last eight months, has only cited.	00:57:46
	For citations and we can go on.	00:57:48
	I can give you more information.	00:57:51
	You can't blame the court.	00:57:53
	For not raising money for the city.	00:57:55
	I'm here to be as fair as possible.	00:57:57
	For the citizens of Socorro.	00:57:59
	And.	00:58:02
	To be able to pass a judgment.	00:58:03
	What is bought before me before the court?	00:58:05
	So there's a process.	00:58:08
	On how the court works.	00:58:11
	If, for example, if a court enforcement officer.	00:58:13
	Sites into my court.	00:58:16
	We go through the process, we do the arraignment.	00:58:19
	If it's a trial, we do the trial.	00:58:21
	But The thing is, is.	00:58:24
	If I give them 30.	00:58:26
	For 30 days.	00:58:27
	To clean up the process or the property or remove the vehicles.	00:58:29
	I can grant them 30 days.	00:58:34
	But it's upon the code enforcement officer, the city officers, the animal control officers.	00:58:36
	To come and find what the disposition is.	00:58:42
	On each case.	00:58:44
	It's not the judges or the.	00:58:46
	Obligation to.	00:58:49
	Called the court enforcement officer to say hey by the way.	00:58:50
	We passed this on this particular property.	00:58:53
	And if you want to.	00:58:56
	This individual.	00:58:58
	Has paid the fine.	00:59:00
	So now you can.	00:59:01
	Cite him a second time.	00:59:02
	Because.	00:59:04
	By your own words from the last City Council meeting.	00:59:05
	You don't want to arrest anybody with a minimum warrant because you don't want to pay the detention center.	00:59:08
	There's lots of municipal warrants out there.	00:59:13
	Whether the the police chief and.	00:59:16
	The officers enforce it is another story.	00:59:19
	So that's all I said.	00:59:22
	Well, I want to comment on this is that it is not personal judge.	00:59:25
	Berlin is thinking about.	00:59:28
	Tears. He's thinking about it. Other little towns have thought about it.	00:59:30
	So the stadium and actually.	00:59:33
	Made a vehicle for that to happen. So there were other complaints about it. It's not a matter of the city wanting you to raise	00:59:35
	funds for this.	00:59:39
	I'm not even.	00:59:42
	Not at all.	00:59:44
	Trying to get you to do that. All I'm saying is.	00:59:45
	Small cities.	00:59:48
	At this point are having trouble.	00:59:49
	Supporting.	00:59:51
	A municipal judge when you have a magistrate and a District Judge.	00:59:53
	And I'm just telling the council.	00:59:56
	That that's the reason we need to.	00:59:58
	See if this is a.	00:59:59
	The way we want to continue going or we want to continue.	01:00:01
	Not, uh.	01:00:05
	Spending the kind of money that we're doing, it's not because.	01:00:07
	As Mr. O'ginn has characterized.	01:00:10
	Something that I'm doing against the judge.	01:00:12
	And I just do things as they come up in my administrative tasks.	01:00:14
	If it happens to be August.	01:00:18
	And we're going to do it by December.	01:00:20
	That's what came up.	01:00:22
	Mr. Patterson, as Donald said, by state statute.	01:00:24
	Each Municipal Court around the state is done by.	01:00:28
	Populations.	01:00:32
	So tier C.	01:00:33
	Was different from.	01:00:35
	Socorro or Blend because tyranny was ahead of the population of under 25.	01:00:37
	People and if you look at the state statute.	01:00:42
	There's a depends on.	01:00:45
	Population of the city.	01:00:47
	And how you can follow.	01:00:49
	Your process that you.	01:00:52
	You're seeing that 7200, just to let you know.	01:00:53
	Well, the population. I have known that for a fact.	01:00:56
	But but.	01:00:59
	The the state statute says.	01:01:00
	Cities under 10,000.	01:01:01
	Well, when I talked to the Tripsy judge, he told.	01:01:03
	You know, but anyway that that's my.	01:01:07
	My Mr. Romero.	01:01:09
	If we were.	01:01:14
	You know, could go by and you know by this study or whatever.	01:01:15
	The finance and.	01:01:18
	I would just be curious as to what.	01:01:21
	The county.	01:01:22
	Would be consciousness.	01:01:24
	If the magistrate took it over.	01:01:27
	I don't be a lot cheaper.	01:01:30
	Maybe not.	01:01:32
	Well, I mean, this magistrate is no cost to us.	01:01:34
	But if but if we were standing.	01:01:38
	I mean, the Supreme Court would have well.	01:01:41
	As, as the judge has said, he's only had four cases filed on the.	01:01:43
	I mean, how many more cases are there going to be?	01:01:47
	And I'm not going to get into personal cases. I'm just telling you.	01:01:49
	That, in my opinion, in the past 30 years.	01:01:53
	We have not made any headway in trying to clean anybody up.	01:01:55
	And or get the dogs under control.	01:01:58
	And I can only tell you that the.	01:02:01
	The dogs that are sighted.	01:02:03
	Are back on the owners in the owners yard.	01:02:04
	And causing more trouble.	01:02:07
	And and I'd rather have the magistrate deal with that rather than the Municipal Court.	01:02:09
	That the city is funding.	01:02:13
	I'd rather have the.	01:02:14
	Money directed towards the police enforcement.	01:02:16
	And the code enforcement at $100,000.	01:02:18
	So that made a tough decision.	01:02:21
	As a tough decision for people who are gonna.	01:02:24
	Be running for office here pretty soon.	01:02:26
	But I brought it up. That's the way it goes.	01:02:29
	You know, I'm bringing up stuff that's difficult, Mister man.	01:02:31
	Well, a question for.	01:02:35
	Umm, you said that the committee would be formed with.	01:02:37
	Can you? Can you repeat to me that again?	01:02:40
	Please. It's the mayor, the judge, the chief of police, a counselor and three members of the public.	01:02:42
	And which judge?	01:02:48
	Is it the judges supposed to OK?	01:02:49
	OK. So he would be involved in the process?	01:02:51
	Yes.	01:02:53
	In the.	01:02:55
	And that's, you know, as Mr. Again pointed out, could be done unofficially.	01:02:57
	But doing it unofficially, I just think it's.	01:03:00
	It has more import when you do it officially.	01:03:04
	As to what we're doing.	01:03:06
	And then you know if the motion dies it.	01:03:07
	I'm just brought it up and that's all I can tell.	01:03:10
	Senator Shalom, is the Municipal Court charge a court fee or had they?	01:03:16
	Had as the court overcharged the court fee too.	01:03:21
	In July 1st, there's no longer.	01:03:25
	You guys passed that?	01:03:29
	Woman.	01:03:33
	They didn't find that he put out actually.	01:03:35
	They no longer.	01:03:39
	Is there is a motion to accept this?	01:03:44
	Resolution.	01:03:47
	If we don't look at it.	01:03:50
	This way, what's to guarantee we're going to look at it?	01:03:51
	In another way and come.	01:03:55
	To a decision.	01:03:57
	And.	01:04:00
	It's from fact, maybe having some of us visit the court.	01:04:01
	Go see a couple of.	01:04:05
	Court cases.	01:04:07
	In his court.	01:04:10
	See how it works.	01:04:11
	I've never been in there.	01:04:13
	I'd like to go in there and see what happens.	01:04:14
	And, and, and maybe as we get through this, we come out of it.	01:04:16
	Saying you know what?	01:04:21
	Yeah, it's costing.	01:04:22
	The taxpayer X amount of dollars. But you know what?	01:04:24
	It's a. It's a value to.	01:04:27
	The residents of Socorro.	01:04:29
	We think it's valuable enough.	01:04:31
	To keep it going.	01:04:34
	And I don't think we can make that decision if we don't go.	01:04:36
	In there and see what's going on, Mister man.	01:04:40
	But, but I mean just to ask you a question.	01:04:42
	Then you then what? Are you going to propose that we then have this resolution passed?	01:04:45
	If you think it's.	01:04:49
	It's not worthwhile.	01:04:50
	Oh no, I'm thinking if we don't pass this resolution, how will we accomplish?	01:04:52
	His office and ask him simple, do you need a resolution to go talk to the judge?	01:04:59
	And find out information.	01:05:04
	I just don't understand why the resolution needs to be made when you can walk in his door you said you haven't seen there does.	01:05:06
	Now that we have a resolution, it's gonna be you're gonna be like, oh, now I'm gonna go look because there's a resolution, yeah.	01:05:11
	Exactly. You don't want to do it without a resolution.	01:05:16
	I haven't been, I haven't gone into the court, so you need a resolution to do it.	01:05:19
	Oh, it sure would. It's.	01:05:22
	I'm saying that.	01:05:24
	The funds that are available to support the city.	01:05:26
	Those those core fee funds.	01:05:29
	They're no longer available.	01:05:31
	So the state.	01:05:33
	Made-up said. You know what?	01:05:34
	These courts.	01:05:36
	Aren't making any money anymore.	01:05:37
	So, uh.	01:05:39
	What we need to do is we need a way to.	01:05:39
	Taking the burden off the city.	01:05:42
	And and taking it to the Magistrate Court.	01:05:43
	And we don't.	01:05:46
	And another thing is we don't want.	01:05:47
	The.	01:05:49
	Paying for government activity, so.	01:05:51
	No more court fees, so that would reduce.	01:05:53
	The funding that was available to.	01:05:56
	Municipal courts. So when they did that.	01:06:00
	Then they said, well, if we do that.	01:06:03
	Then we need to do this.	01:06:05
	We need to put a vehicle in place.	01:06:07
	That lets a city.	01:06:09
	Evaluate their Municipal Court to make a.	01:06:12
	Formed decision about whether to continue it and to see if it's worth the taxpayers money to keep it going.	01:06:15
	That's it. We keep the the.	01:06:22
	Like I used the example last time, we keep the.	01:06:25
	The the swimming pool going.	01:06:28
	It loses money.	01:06:29
	But there's a value to the to our residents and people around here.	01:06:31
	And we think the value is worth more than the loss that we're experiencing.	01:06:35
	Is that the same with the municipal?	01:06:39
	Court, I don't, I haven't looked at it deep enough and I think, you know, going in there.	01:06:41
	Will help but.	01:06:45
	Maybe this is exactly the process that needs to take place so we can get those.	01:06:47
	That information to us so we can make an informed decision to have a committee come up to us and say, you know what?	01:06:52
	It's valuable to the city of Socorro.	01:06:58
	To have a Municipal Court.	01:07:00
	That's what our committee came up with, and our committee is made-up of the mayor and his.	01:07:02
	The council and the judge and.	01:07:06
	Somebody else and.	01:07:09
	It's a system.	01:07:10
	So who's gonna argue with that?	01:07:12
	But but I'm still.	01:07:15
	Saying that.	01:07:16
	The procedure is that the judge.	01:07:19
	And the city administration.	01:07:21
	And the Council are two separate bodies.	01:07:23
	And to go into his.	01:07:26
	Office, uh.	01:07:27
	In my opinion, is not the right thing to do without some sort of a.	01:07:28
	Document.	01:07:32
	There's a separate. There's a separation.	01:07:35
	It's the executive branch. There's three branches, Mr. Ogle, and I don't know if you knew that, but I think.	01:07:37
	I slept that day.	01:07:44
	Social studies feature.	01:07:46
	Judge.	01:07:47
	Mr. Parker, I was there.	01:07:54
	In court quite a bit before SO.	01:07:57
	But the question is for me is.	01:08:00
	You brought it up, Mayor, is that?	01:08:04
	Is there some?	01:08:05
	This the legalities of.	01:08:07
	The informality. I understand what Mike saying.	01:08:09
	Council of the informality of it is.	01:08:12
	The legal implications Are you worried of legal implications about how?	01:08:16
	Questioning the judge and how he runs his courtroom and.	01:08:20
	Those kind of issues.	01:08:23
	Can become a legal issue for us is what it sounds like your concern is.	01:08:25
	Have my question.	01:08:29
	Outside of that is, has that ever been done in the past where we've had some?	01:08:31
	Formal meeting with the courts to go over things, but I realized the separation of government.	01:08:35
	I appointed judge cases.	01:08:43
	And after she was appointed.	01:08:45
	I have never.	01:08:47
	Gone and try to interfere with her.	01:08:48
	This is my only vehicle.	01:08:51
	And what's the? So we'll say this is passed and then what's the?	01:08:54
	And say the committee's formed.	01:08:58
	And they said no. This is a great benefit to the second. I think we leave it in place.	01:09:00
	That would be great. I'm looking for that answer. That's great.	01:09:04
	What's wrong with that?	01:09:08
	I mean, if Mr. O'ginn is worried that it's going to come back negative.	01:09:10
	Then I can understand his worry, but.	01:09:13
	Whatever comes back that hey, you know, I'm not worried about that. I'm just it doesn't make sense to have a.	01:09:16
	Have an ordinance to form a committee when we form committees all the time.	01:09:20
	Without resolutions.	01:09:24
	This is a resolution on ordinance. I didn't say. I said I'm that resolution. I'm sorry.	01:09:26
	But but the bottom line is it's a way.	01:09:30
	To do a job. I mean if you want to do everything informally.	01:09:33
	I just don't think it has the, like I said, the import of.	01:09:37
	Of having a committee.	01:09:40
	That includes the judge.	01:09:41
	And here's the point.	01:09:44
	And his their employee, yeah.	01:09:46
	Yeah, so so again.	01:09:48
	We don't have to do it.	01:09:49
	If it's too much work.	01:09:51
	We can go to visit his court, look at his caseload.	01:09:52
	Look at how he makes his judgments.	01:09:55
	But I don't feel comfortable in doing that.	01:09:57
	I don't feel comfortable in telling the judge.	01:10:00
	This is what you should be doing when you.	01:10:02
	See one of these uh.	01:10:04
	People that we cited, that's not my job.	01:10:06
	Long winded.	01:10:11
	What kind of?	01:10:13
	What kind of information can we the committee, if this is possible, kind of information can the committee extract from?	01:10:15
	The judge Are they able to?	01:10:21
	The book.	01:10:23
	The number is the caseload. Again, I'm not sure that.	01:10:24
	Not addressed, but I would think.	01:10:28
	If I would think I'll live with public information, but maybe some of it needs to be redacted.	01:10:30
	But.	01:10:35
	Through Ruby Week.	01:10:36
	We have the budget information.	01:10:37
	The judge sent us.	01:10:39
	Caseload.	01:10:41
	Counts about a month ago, so.	01:10:42
	I don't know what else you'd want to look at.	01:10:45
	Sure. No, I just, I guess that.	01:10:47
	But I think, I think you have to talk to the public.	01:10:49
	And say to them.	01:10:52
	Do you feel comfortable in having a magistrate decides to the ordinances?	01:10:53
	I mean, that's one of the things you want to ask.	01:10:57
	And you know, you know the other side of it, is what I'm saying.	01:10:59
	If you had any experiences with anybody.	01:11:02
	Who did? Who did make a?	01:11:06
	Complaint, and then that complaint was acted upon at the judges, and that the person who the complaint was against.	01:11:08
	Got to do.	01:11:14
	Whatever they wanted to and then had to be brought back to court.	01:11:16
	And who?	01:11:19
	And.	01:11:20
	A job is that my code enforcement officer or is it the court has to watch and see if they actually acted on the?	01:11:22
	Judges orders? I don't know that.	01:11:28
	And those are the questions I have.	01:11:31
	And, Mr. Mayor, the committee is required to have at least one public hearing.	01:11:33
	And have a public. I'm just saying those are the things that.	01:11:37
	Need to come out and I feel very uncomfortable.	01:11:41
	And asking any judge.	01:11:43
	About how they're making their.	01:11:45
	Their decisions. That's not my job. My job is this.	01:11:47
	As mayor of my job.	01:11:51
	And the state has given me that ability to do that.	01:11:53
	If the council agrees, if they don't agree, then I can't do that.	01:11:55
	And how long has?	01:11:58
	Been enacted.	01:12:00
	Here's an event.	01:12:02
	This statute, I'll have to look it up.	01:12:04
	It's within the five years, it's not.	01:12:07
	It's not something old.	01:12:09
	So what did we do? Why did we choose? Why are we choosing to do it now?	01:12:11
	Why am I going to worry about that? Guys paved the history. I mean, it came up. I'm just saying that it came up now.	01:12:18
	Because I just felt.	01:12:25
	That given the.	01:12:27
	The judges salary being raised.	01:12:28
	That it would be important for the city to look and see how that money is being spent.	01:12:31
	The council and you're one of the counselors that may give the.	01:12:36
	The judge of the race.	01:12:40
	Did you ask him any of these questions about?	01:12:42
	How effective is the court?	01:12:44
	I'd like to see that in writing.	01:12:47
	I'd like to see that in our committee.	01:12:49
	And I, you know, and like I said, I cannot go into his court.	01:12:52
	And start.	01:12:55
	Asking, well how come you made that decision I need to make?	01:12:56
	I'm not.	01:12:59
	This is the shop.	01:13:00
	Part of our.	01:13:02
	Our government.	01:13:03
	So we can ask those questions for the committee. If we have a resolution, we're allowed to ask those questions. I'm gonna have to	01:13:04
	find out.	01:13:07
	I don't know for sure.	01:13:10
	I don't know for sure.	01:13:11
	But it gives me a little more.	01:13:12
	Import to be able to ask those questions.	01:13:15
	How do you know you can ask him?	01:13:17
	How do you know you'll be able to ask him if?	01:13:19
	If this does pass.	01:13:22
	Well, you know, how do I know I can do anything if I don't have this thing passed?	01:13:24
	Is it the chicken or the egg type of if the Council?	01:13:28
	You know, everybody is talking about it. If they want don't want to do this, fine with me. I'm just bringing it up.	01:13:31
	And the judge is part of the committee, so he would be present to answer questions that.	01:13:36
	The community might ask, but it's because we have this committee formed because of the state allowed us to do that.	01:13:41
	You know.	01:13:49
	That's all I'm saying.	01:13:50
	Anyway, do you have a motion to accept this resolution?	01:13:54
	Make a motion.	01:13:58
	I'll second, Mr. Mayor.	01:14:00
	So moved and 2nd.	01:14:02
	We get a. Can we get a roll call?	01:14:04
	Yes.	01:14:12
	Yes.	01:14:15
	Cancer Clinic.	01:14:17
	Nazo Campo.	01:14:19
	Counseling, No.	01:14:23
	Councillor Partridge.	01:14:25
	Councillor Romero.	01:14:28
	Yes.	01:14:30
	So what what, Donald? What is the makeup of that committee?	01:14:33
	It is the mayor, the judge, the chief of police, one counselor.	01:14:37
	And three members of the public.	01:14:41
	One of which is picked by the mayor, one is picked by the judge and one is picked by the counselor.	01:14:42
	So, so we have 15 days to get the committee form.	01:14:47
	I mean, I can get the Bob rolling.	01:14:51
	If we want, if Mr. Again, you want to be on that committee.	01:14:53
	I'll be more than happy to.	01:14:56
	You know, appoint you as a council member.	01:14:58
	Unless some other counselor because.	01:15:00
	I mean, that's up to you. If not, I can appoint Mr. Salome or?	01:15:02
	Either way, I mean, I make sure that we.	01:15:06
	I have some sort of a.	01:15:09
	Reconciliation on it.	01:15:12
	So it's up to you if you think about it or.	01:15:14
	OK, you will. OK, so I'll make myself.	01:15:16
	City Council representative.	01:15:20
	And could I get nominations?	01:15:24
	By the end of the week.	01:15:27
	Preferably so we can.	01:15:28
	The one from the mayor.	01:15:30
	The one from the judge.	01:15:31
	No one from cancer again.	01:15:33
	Get that put together.	01:15:36
	OK. And I'm sorry about the.	01:15:38
	The long within us.	01:15:41
	I think we have another.	01:15:44
	Participation. OK, this is a nice one.	01:15:46
	Participation, Linda.	01:15:48
	Program Ruby. That's the.	01:15:49
	Mayor, Council. So the city was awarded $125,000. This is our beautification. I have AQA tomorrow so I don't really know exactly.	01:16:01
	What is going to?	01:16:10
	Entail until we ask questions and they go over it tomorrow. But it has to do with recycling.	01:16:12
	So I've been talking with Mike and with Marcella. We're going to see what we can actually put out there for recycling and.	01:16:16
	See if maybe we can purchase a vehicle or see what we can get out of that money, but I'll make sure that we spend $125,000.	01:16:24
	Right now we're doing cardboard.	01:16:30
	Right now it's cardboard and we want to bring back.	01:16:33
	Paper. We're trying to bring back paper.	01:16:35
	Like on Saturdays and then?	01:16:38
	Linda had a program at the Senior Center to where?	01:16:40
	The mayor funded to clean some senior yards, so we're seeing maybe we can.	01:16:44
	Maybe put that in there with?	01:16:48
	I'll ask tomorrow.	01:16:50
	And see because it is private property and see if they'll cover.	01:16:51
	You know, cleaning some stuff around the city.	01:16:54
	You know so.	01:16:57
	I'll know more information next meeting.	01:16:58
	But it's $125,000.	01:17:00
	What about utilizing our lot?	01:17:04
	The Stands Motel lot.	01:17:05
	You gotta get bigger or something.	01:17:08
	Yeah, yeah.	01:17:11
	Mr. Again.	01:17:13
	Make a motion to pass resolution #2508-19C.	01:17:14
	A second I'm moving, a second all in favor.	01:17:18
	Aye.	01:17:20
	Airport hangar. Hello.	01:17:26
	Yes, Sir, we we actually went out.	01:17:30
	Forbid on this on April 17th.	01:17:32
	And we had 7.	01:17:36
	But with the number of protests and everything, it was.	01:17:38
	Probably the city's best interest that we.	01:17:41
	We threw the mall out and we went.	01:17:45
	Out for negotiations and we talked with Richardson and Richardson, they're a member of the cooperative.	01:17:48
	Educational Services CES.	01:17:56
	And they had a bid of 1,000,000, one 56402.	01:17:58
	And actually with taxes and everything, that probably.	01:18:03
	$50,000 cheaper than our lowest bidder when we did went through the bid process so.	01:18:06
	So I paid for.	01:18:12
	It's with the.	01:18:14
	Grant 100%.	01:18:17
	Yes. And and that comes within the the budgeted amount of 1.2 million, so.	01:18:19
	Make a motion to pass the board.	01:18:26
	Now second I moved a second all in favor.	01:18:28
	Aye, OK. Home occupation BNF Smith Enterprises.	01:18:32
	Christie, she'll make a presentation 1st and then we'll.	01:18:36
	We'll discuss it like we have been discussing.	01:18:40
	Thank you.	01:18:48
	Hello, Mayor and Council.	01:19:09
	So, umm.	01:19:12
	BNF Smith Enterprises filled out a home occupation permit.	01:19:13
	Or, uh.	01:19:18
	The RV.	01:19:20
	Rental.	01:19:21
	And what it is, is they want to place their RV on the Outdoorsy app.	01:19:22
	Which is an app that coordinates people who have our visa with people who don't but would like to rent them.	01:19:26
	For a weekend for a.	01:19:33
	Um, so um.	01:19:36
	Mr. and Mrs. Smith have an RV.	01:19:39
	They want to participate in that where?	01:19:42
	They are able to be found on the app.	01:19:46
	And it's kind of like an RV.	01:19:50
	It's not camping at their house.	01:19:54
	If I would, I would just say if I was interested.	01:19:57
	Then I would take my truck.	01:20:00
	To their health or a meeting spot. It could be a Walmart parking lot. It could be anywhere.	01:20:03
	And they would.	01:20:08
	I would connect it to my truck, I would go camping with my family, come back and I would either deliver it back to.	01:20:10
	The pickup spot or their residence? I don't I'm not exactly sure how that business model, but.	01:20:16
	It is when in front of planning and zoning the meeting did get a little.	01:20:23
	Contentious, therefore they did not.	01:20:29
	Make a decision.	01:20:32
	I had.	01:20:34
	2 Running and zoning.	01:20:35
	Commissioners present and one that voted by proxy.	01:20:38
	But being that he wasn't here to hear the concerns, they did not vote on it, so it did not come to you with a recommendation.	01:20:41
	It was.	01:20:50
	Not going to be voted on that day, I'll tell you that.	01:20:51
	We we have somebody to speak on behalf of the.	01:20:55
	So this is Francesca and her husband.	01:20:58
	Don't remember his name? Brandon.	01:21:01
	And they're the ones who want to present their business model.	01:21:03
	So like she was saying, we have one RV.	01:21:09
	That we would like to rent out.	01:21:13
	And you know as on an app, we have it on 2 apps, one called Outdoorsy and the other one is called RV Share.	01:21:15
	It's 100% insured.	01:21:23
	Through ourselves and then also the app provides insurance.	01:21:27
	It is not parked on the street. We have a side yard.	01:21:31
	That the trailer.	01:21:34
	Is parked on on our property.	01:21:36
	And like she said, we can do delivery, so if they want to go to Elephant Butte for the weekend or Escondido Lake.	01:21:38
	You know, we can deliver it for them.	01:21:45
	If they want to pick it up.	01:21:47
	You know at our residents or you know if there's a meeting spot.	01:21:49
	You know, closer to them.	01:21:52
	That we can also do that.	01:21:55
	And so we're not planning at this time to get anymore.	01:21:56
	RV's we just have the one we just want to.	01:22:01
	Try to have a small.	01:22:03
	Side business for ourselves.	01:22:05
	Is it motorized?	01:22:08
	No. So it's a travel trailer.	01:22:10
	To travel trailer.	01:22:11
	And you keep it on your property right now.	01:22:13
	Yes.	01:22:15
	And it's on our side yard. It's not on the street, it's not.	01:22:15
	And Christie, there's no violation of them keeping that up.	01:22:18
	And I believe that Overlooking Act does offer $1,000,000.	01:22:27
	Coverage being that they're signed up with the outdoors, yeah, so if there were any damage to.	01:22:30
	Let's say.	01:22:36
	Yeah, if there's any damage to the customers vehicle or to our.	01:22:38
	Travel trailer.	01:22:44
	That they are covered through the insurance.	01:22:45
	Mr. Fleming.	01:22:49
	10/06.	01:22:53
	Is located where?	01:22:55
	10066.	01:22:58
	So I'm 1102 Leroy.	01:23:02
	What was the address?	01:23:07
	This letter just supported. It's not.	01:23:13
	So that's on the other street.	01:23:15
	From us, behind us, yeah.	01:23:17
	The insurance coverage is for.	01:23:19
	Or there what about damage to the city?	01:23:24
	Property.	01:23:28
	I don't know the it's not covered.	01:23:31
	You may want to check that.	01:23:36
	OK.	01:23:39
	It's basically.	01:23:43
	I've looked into this thing before. So you store your RV?	01:23:45
	Somebody can come pick it up from your residency.	01:23:49
	They can leave with them.	01:23:51
	Bring it back, park it there, right, But you're not going to actually have.	01:23:53
	Transient residents.	01:23:56
	Stay on our property.	01:24:01
	We're not letting people.	01:24:03
	You know, it's not like a hotel motel.	01:24:06
	There B&B situation, it's where they pick it up, they go camping.	01:24:09
	And then they bring it back.	01:24:15
	So no one will be staying.	01:24:16
	On our property.	01:24:18
	Question for.	01:24:20
	Christie is is the.	01:24:22
	Permit Is it written for just one RV at this?	01:24:24
	And what it is, is that it's because their office would be out of their residence. That's why it requires the home occupation.	01:24:32
	CS GO.	01:24:40
	But but but but I mean the point of.	01:24:43
	Council.	01:24:45
	If this is super successful, are you going to acquire more RV's?	01:24:47
	Well, we haven't.	01:24:51
	Done anything yet?	01:24:52
	Is that limited in your?	01:24:54
	And your permit, that's a transaction.	01:24:58
	If anything changes with the scope.	01:25:00
	Of what is presented.	01:25:03
	Just one.	01:25:05
	Which is she's presenting one RV.	01:25:06
	She would have to come apply for another.	01:25:08
	Or a change so it's not something she can grow with.	01:25:12
	Out telling us.	01:25:16
	So what she's presenting is 1.	01:25:18
	That's what what we what would be considered as one.	01:25:23
	That's not fair.	01:25:27
	On the.	01:25:30
	Permit application and asked if neighbors have been contacted.	01:25:32
	It says no, but I think we probably did contact people, but what's a requirement?	01:25:35
	Requesting.	01:25:49
	100 feet from.	01:25:50
	Her property.	01:25:51
	So they were notified for.	01:25:53
	The planning and zoning meeting, yes.	01:25:55
	I think there was, I don't remember the exam. I think it was 11.	01:26:00
	Residences were notified.	01:26:04
	Thank you.	01:26:06
	Mr. Mr. Again make a motion to pass the home occupation permit. OK.	01:26:07
	No, because I'll ask for the opposition.	01:26:14
	Yeah, go ahead.	01:26:16
	Make the motion to approve it and 2nd and you can still discuss.	01:26:18
	Let's move to 2nd of discussion. We have opposition to this.	01:26:21
	For this request.	01:26:24
	Can we let them?	01:26:25
	Mr. Mayor and.	01:26:35
	Questioners, our concerns are if there's going to be more than one.	01:26:37
	One, we can. We can live with that.	01:26:41
	The other concern is the traffic.	01:26:45
	I like the idea of it being picked up somewhere else.	01:26:48
	Because we have children that play on the street.	01:26:52
	I was before the Commissioner and you were.	01:26:55
	And you had approved a speed bump because we had.	01:26:59
	Cars crashing into our property.	01:27:04
	Or off the side of the property.	01:27:07
	The speed bump was removed.	01:27:10
	Traffic. We get traffic through their speeders.	01:27:13
	And concerns being we have little ones and then my husband that likes to go through the neighborhood. Mr. Fleming has seen seen	01:27:16
	him.	01:27:21
	And sometimes I will have to.	01:27:26
	Shout out at him if I'm outside.	01:27:28
	There's a car coming and it's coming fast, so move.	01:27:33
	Move. And so those are the concerns that we have for the neighborhood.	01:27:36
	The one most important one being.	01:27:42
	One we have no problem with. If you're going to be doing 3, you need to move it somewhere else.	01:27:46
	And it has if it has to come before.	01:27:51
	The Commissioners.	01:27:54
	You know if they want more than one for rental.	01:27:56
	We want to stipulate that in the.	01:28:01
	Request.	01:28:03
	But you're OK with the one?	01:28:05
	We're OK with the one.	01:28:07
	If it's maybe.	01:28:08
	Picked up somewhere else other than the house because.	01:28:10
	Two weeks ago, somebody.	01:28:14
	Picked it up or whatever.	01:28:16
	And he went around the block 3 or 4 times and it got dark on him reversing it in.	01:28:18
	If somebody had been coming through that neighborhood.	01:28:24
	They might have hit it.	01:28:28
	Can you agree to that?	01:28:30
	That it will be picked up somewhere else or no?	01:28:32
	OK, Mr. Partridge.	01:28:35
	Did the slow the?	01:28:37
	We installed a sign. You contacted me? Yes. Did that help them, the city? We had Lloyd go out there and install a sign on your	01:28:40
	area. Those signs helped and so did the stop sign, the signs that you all put in the neighborhood.	01:28:47
	Those are those are much really appreciated.	01:28:54
	So your concern is?	01:29:00
	One only and.	01:29:03
	It'd be picked up somewhere else. That was your concern.	01:29:06
	Yes, Sir, and brought back.	01:29:08
	Somewhere else.	01:29:11
	Yeah.	01:29:12
	Where they got where it got picked up.	01:29:14
	They're not really willing to accept that. Let's work it. Well, it doesn't. The reason?	01:29:16
	The out of respect.	01:29:20
	It's going to get taken to the same place no matter who delivers it.	01:29:23
	So if they take it to Walmart.	01:29:27
	And they disconnect it there.	01:29:30
	And then these gentlemen go pick it up.	01:29:32
	They're just going to take it to the same place that they were going to deliver it to anyways. I from what I understand, unless	01:29:34
	I'm not seeing something.	01:29:37
	Correctly right with the kids in the neighborhood and.	01:29:41
	Person that likes to my husband.	01:29:45
	That likes to go through the neighborhood and he goes through the neighborhood two or three.	01:29:47
	Times a day.	01:29:52
	So one question real quick before, is there times that they pick these things up? Like is there? Is there like?	01:29:55
	Hours of operation.	01:30:01
	So.	01:30:12
	Sure.	01:30:17
	One month.	01:30:19
	So that's two times.	01:30:20
	I mean, we probably use it more than that and more.	01:30:22
	So I don't understand.	01:30:27
	Why we would have to meet at a different location other than a house if we would have to bring him back?	01:30:29
	That also is 1 trailer.	01:30:34
	Is there a typical pick up time?	01:30:38
	Like, you know, you check into a motel at.	01:30:39
	3.	01:30:41
	You know.	01:30:49
	Understand.	01:30:50
	Mr. Fleming.	01:30:51
	I can see the 1 trailer.	01:30:53
	When I foresee a problem.	01:30:57
	Occurring.	01:31:00
	Is these individuals that.	01:31:02
	Want to rent your trailer may not have the experience.	01:31:04
	Of how to bath it in.	01:31:08
	To the location where you are.	01:31:10
	Where if you met them?	01:31:13
	You're shaking your head.	01:31:15
	I had the privilege of driving a 38 foot triaxial trailer.	01:31:18
	For 19 years.	01:31:24
	And it's not as easy as it looked when you're backing it up.	01:31:26
	I have a very heavy concern about.	01:31:31
	Individuals.	01:31:34
	Who? You don't know their driving record?	01:31:36
	You don't know their experience.	01:31:39
	And you're going to back it into your yard.	01:31:48
	You didn't say that.	01:31:52
	Did you say that?	01:31:56
	That's a. That's a literal, yes, correct.	01:31:59
	Have you put it down?	01:32:02
	And given it to Christie.	01:32:03
	That you are responsible for putting it on.	01:32:05
	And you were going to be responsible for taking it off the street.	01:32:09
	That makes sense.	01:32:21
	OK, to clarify, yes, ma'am.	01:32:33
	My concern, excuse me, is.	01:32:43
	I have 3 great grandchildren that live with me.	01:32:46
	They ride their bike on the road.	01:32:49
	And people come barely an unmarried place it's.	01:32:51
	Circular.	01:32:55
	Street and they come flying around in a.	01:32:57
	The kids, I'm out there watching them. They don't just do it on their own.	01:33:01
	And Mr. Rankonis is on the road. That is our concern.	01:33:06
	Like I said, like she said, only one trailer, yes.	01:33:10
	But.	01:33:13
	Are they going to watch out for kids or?	01:33:15
	I know, Mr. Partridge.	01:33:19
	I brought it to him that.	01:33:21
	They you know, when we had the meeting before, it was not.	01:33:22
	There was not a quorum.	01:33:28
	And there was one particular person that was representing the city that was very.	01:33:31
	And laughing and making fun of us and commenting.	01:33:36
	Things when we left.	01:33:40
	Which was very unprofessional.	01:33:42
	Point of view.	01:33:44
	But to go back to it is my concern is my 3 great grandchildren that.	01:33:46
	Go up and down that road.	01:33:51
	Riding their bikes.	01:33:53
	You know, I know. We took the.	01:33:55
	The speed.	01:33:56
	But there may be a different.	01:33:58
	Way we can slow them down.	01:34:00
	I'll talk to Lloyd about that.	01:34:02
	Don't see people can't do that.	01:34:04
	You have a comment.	01:34:06
	I'm just curious.	01:34:08
	Speak up so we can get it on record.	01:34:10
	And there's 7.	01:34:19
	Mary place that I am the one.	01:34:27
	A result.	01:34:30
	Next.	01:34:31
	But that's.	01:34:36
	OK, OK.	01:34:40
	OK, let me let me just get your attention.	01:34:44
	I think there's 2 problems. 1 is the RV.	01:34:46
	And the other one is the.	01:34:49
	The traffic and the speed of the traffic.	01:34:51
	Which, whether we approve this or not, is still there.	01:34:54
	So I think we need to kind of.	01:34:57
	We'll work on that speed.	01:34:59
	But and kind of separate from.	01:35:02
	Just from this issue, that's that's.	01:35:04
	Well, I think it's a great, I mean.	01:35:06
	I hope you got 20 but don't put them on your LA.	01:35:09
	But you know this this.	01:35:12
	I think what it has to rule where they rent cars, people get their own cars and.	01:35:14
	I mean, that's a this little.	01:35:18
	Economic development, but.	01:35:20
	But I think there the comments are.	01:35:22
	Pair that you know this can't turn into a.	01:35:24
	And it's basically on the Internet. It's not like you're.	01:35:28
	People are shopping.	01:35:30
	That's your place.	01:35:32
	So but but I think.	01:35:33
	It's important to make clear.	01:35:35
	Clarify that it's A1 trailer.	01:35:36
	And that, that that's something that needs to be.	01:35:39
	Just one last comment, Mr. Mayor.	01:35:43
	I mean, I just think in good faith, as a good neighbor you would.	01:35:45
	You would want to look up for the children in your neighborhood too. I would hope so. I think if that's a.	01:35:48
	Big concern that.	01:35:53
	As your trailer is getting rented, you have direct traffic or.	01:35:54
	I'm not telling you what to do or how to run your business, but I just think that's.	01:35:57
	Probably good practice.	01:36:00
	To keep the neighbors.	01:36:01
	You know, worries at ease and and.	01:36:04
	Continue on your business successfully.	01:36:07
	So it's been a good neighbor.	01:36:09
	So are we ready to take the boat?	01:36:13
	All in favor.	01:36:15
	Aye.	01:36:16
	No one. No.	01:36:17
	One note passes.	01:36:20
	With the clarification. Well, with the clarification, I know.	01:36:22
	Mr. and Cornice.	01:36:26
	But with a clarification that is 1.	01:36:27
	And we'll keep an eye on it. We'll just make you know. But that's great that you're doing the business. That's great.	01:36:30
	Good for you and I.	01:36:37
	I feel a little unhappy with the.	01:36:38
	Planning and Zoning Commission.	01:36:40
	Say they didn't have a quorum. That should try to be.	01:36:42
	At the meeting, well, we did have a quorum if you counted.	01:36:46
	The by proxy vote.	01:36:52
	But they were not happy.	01:36:54
	That he wasn't here to hear their concerns. So at that point we said, well, then we'll.	01:36:56
	Continue it. They have to be there to listen. Yeah.	01:37:01
	I agree.	01:37:06
	OK. Yes, Mr.	01:37:07
	Saying we have a speed bump there.	01:37:09
	Or the Patterson bump.	01:37:11
	And I'm not sure what happened with that little discussion about.	01:37:14
	Three years ago. Two years ago.	01:37:17
	But there are other ways to kind of.	01:37:19
	Decrease the speed.	01:37:21
	And it could even be, you know, with the narrowest treaty. But I'm going to have Lloyd look at it with our engineer.	01:37:24
	And see if we can that's a different project though, that's a different thing that.	01:37:30
	And also signage. Signage, absolutely.	01:37:34
	But we're going to work on that.	01:37:37
	Is there any more controversial things on the agenda that we can?	01:37:41
	Cast OK.	01:37:46
	We're almost there. We're almost there.	01:37:48
	This is, I don't know, Mr. Lopez. Is Mr. Lopez here?	01:37:51
	Yes.	01:37:55
	You took your head off, I couldn't recognize.	01:37:57
	I heard you. I saw you lurking around the.	01:38:00
	Other side there.	01:38:02
	This is I don't think this is too controversial, is it? Who? Who's going to?	01:38:03
	We skip, Did I skip what did I skip? The delegate? Delegate. That's controversial.	01:38:08
	Who wants to be the New Mexico Municipal League?	01:38:13
	Delegate.	01:38:15
	So we'll continue, we'll make customer again Mr.	01:38:17
	It's a voting delegate and then the alternate.	01:38:25
	That is what I was going to say with the alternate.	01:38:27
	And the Municipal League would like to mention.	01:38:29
	The Municipal League would like to make sure that both of those people attend the conference.	01:38:32
	It's September 17th through the 19th NATO so.	01:38:35
	When is it?	01:38:39
	17th to the 19th They're both what?	01:38:40
	The 18th I didn't have my here.	01:38:43
	Both go. I can't go. I have a conference while I'm speaking. Sorry. Both of them go.	01:38:47
	Yesterday, like both in attendance.	01:38:54
	We can't have Miss Challenge doing it.	01:38:56
	I'm sorry, I'm already committed. I was committed through MFA to be a speaker at the conference.	01:38:58
	Wow. How about Peter?	01:39:04
	No. Get an alternate no.	01:39:08
	Alternator go to the meeting until.	01:39:12
	You gotta go.	01:39:14
	Make a motion.	01:39:18
	So we're going to appoint Mr. O'ginn as the.	01:39:19
	Delegate and Mr. Salami is the alternate and.	01:39:23
	Yes, Chavez, whenever she wants to go.	01:39:26
	OK, now Mr. Lopez.	01:39:31
	I don't know what you're doing. What are you doing here?	01:39:36
	You've got some pretty colored pictures over here, I see that.	01:39:41
	What does it tell us?	01:39:44
	You want to give us a history of how we screwed up?	01:39:47
	Mr. Mayor, Council.	01:39:54
	I guess in back in 2009 there was an agreement between the city and.	01:39:56
	Myself.	01:40:01
	The city needed access an easement across my property to provide a drainage.	01:40:02
	Of things across.	01:40:08
	I met with the.	01:40:12
	The city and we came up with an agreement.	01:40:13
	That way to eliminate any possibility of court or anything else at that point.	01:40:16
	So the agreement was is that I would give them access.	01:40:21
	Without charge, just hey, I'll give you the access at this point.	01:40:25
	But to provide a piece of property.	01:40:28
	In exchange for that access.	01:40:31
	Right next to.	01:40:33
	Where the I own a piece of property on on.	01:40:35
	Out on Faulkner.	01:40:38
	At the very end of Faulkner, time comes to.	01:40:40
	A point. It was the property right next to it. It joins that property.	01:40:42
	And.	01:40:46
	We came to an agreement that that would be.	01:40:47
	Part of the agreement.	01:40:50
	And we all.	01:40:51
	Signed off on it.	01:40:53
	Unfortunately, I probably committed malpractice on myself.	01:40:55
	Because I didn't.	01:40:58
	Look closely.	01:40:59
	At the deed.	01:41:01
	That was provided to me by the city by.	01:41:02
	Mr. Armagh City.	01:41:04
	Attorney.	01:41:06
	I was super busy back in 2009.	01:41:07
	I was swamped. I had a first degree murder case.	01:41:11
	That dealt with 10 defendants. Oh, we don't want to hear how. Yeah. So I just screwed up.	01:41:14
	Anyway, umm.	01:41:18
	So I didn't pay attention until here recently.	01:41:20
	I came to the.	01:41:25
	Assessor's Office.	01:41:27
	And I was planning to.	01:41:29
	Put something on that property.	01:41:30
	A mobile home I.	01:41:32
	Grandkids are getting.	01:41:33
	Trying to provide them a place.	01:41:34
	And I realized the assessor said no.	01:41:37
	That's still in the cities.	01:41:40
	City under city ownership.	01:41:42
	So I came and I said look.	01:41:44
	I think there was a screw up on the deed.	01:41:47
	Because they only gave me a little portion.	01:41:49
	What the heck is that all about?	01:41:52
	It was the whole.	01:41:53
	All the way down to Faulkner. So all I'm trying to do is correct.	01:41:55
	The deed.	01:41:59
	That was to be provided by the city.	01:42:00
	That's all there was number. That was the agreement that was provided.	01:42:01
	Bias and between US and I'm just trying to clean it up, that's all.	01:42:05
	And Mr. Mayor Lloyd has talked to Jerry about this and he agrees and.	01:42:09
	The vehicle we will use to get this.	01:42:14
	Deeded correctly the signal file with quitclaim deed.	01:42:18
	On that parcel.	01:42:21
	That'll be fine. What do you want us to?	01:42:23
	Just vote to accept the claim.	01:42:26
	I so much second to move the second discussion.	01:42:29
	All in favor.	01:42:32
	Thank you very much. Thank you.	01:42:34
	Mr. Mayor.	01:42:36
	Council.	01:42:37
	OK, where are we?	01:42:44
	We got new business.	01:42:47
	Mr. Mr.	01:42:48
	So now we own California St. correct?	01:42:50
	We need to put.	01:42:54
	Umm, lines.	01:42:56
	You're driving at night. I don't even know if I'm going on the left or the right.	01:42:57
	You can't see the lines at all.	01:43:00
	Right. OK. Can we strike it, please?	01:43:03
	What else?	01:43:07
	OK, old business.	01:43:10
	One point we talked about the election.	01:43:14
	And the change.	01:43:17
	Municipal.	01:43:19
	In the United States national election campaigns.	01:43:22
	And those rules and.	01:43:27
	Statutes that follow that.	01:43:29
	Election.	01:43:31
	I talked with the municipal league and.	01:43:32
	It seems that.	01:43:35
	If the city would.	01:43:36
	Want to return to a municipal election?	01:43:38
	At their own time frame.	01:43:42
	Then this type of an election that was conducted the.	01:43:44
	Two years ago.	01:43:48
	And the one that's going to be.	01:43:49
	Conducted in November.	01:43:50
	Has to play out through the sequence, so those two elections have to take place.	01:43:52
	But after that.	01:43:58
	The city can choose to go back.	01:43:59
	To a uh.	01:44:02
	Municipal election.	01:44:05
	Where?	01:44:06
	People are.	01:44:08
	Run against.	01:44:10
	In in various words.	01:44:11
	Rather than an at large.	01:44:13
	545544.	01:44:16
	So that's something what would.	01:44:21
	What's that? What's the cycle? You said two cycles. Oh yeah, once. Once this election is over. So in four years.	01:44:22
	That one can be a municipal election.	01:44:30
	Councillor Saloni.	01:44:33
	I recall that it's.	01:44:36
	Based on population.	01:44:38
	And that's what.	01:44:40
	Made us fall. I know we cannot back in or opt out.	01:44:41
	And run our own elections.	01:44:44
	But I think we would still have to run.	01:44:47
	At large.	01:44:49
	I'll, I'll look that up again.	01:44:51
	I think you said the information.	01:44:53
	I thought Donald.	01:44:58
	Yeah.	01:45:01
	After that meeting.	01:45:04
	Well, the elections that happened prior.	01:45:05
	To this last election.	01:45:08
	They had.	01:45:10
	Asked and required the city to.	01:45:12
	Doing that large election as well.	01:45:14
	But the city chose to do.	01:45:17
	Ward by ward.	01:45:20
	So yeah, I don't think that was.	01:45:22
	Is that they changed that law where?	01:45:26
	Where they made it.	01:45:28
	At large if you're under.	01:45:29
	That if you're over, then you have to be.	01:45:31
	10,000 Yeah. Barbara, Barbara, the Municipal League have.	01:45:34
	Had some advice and guidance for us in that.	01:45:39
	Well, the reasoning when they came out with the guidance was.	01:45:42
	That populations under 10,000 aren't district.	01:45:45
	But by running in wards we were essentially districting the city.	01:45:49
	There wasn't citywide, so that was the reasoning, but I'll look into it.	01:45:53
	Pin them. Pin them down at the New Mexico Ministry.	01:45:56
	When you're there, yeah.	01:46:01
	On the 17th September.	01:46:02
	No, but that's, you know, we always thought.	01:46:06
	That everybody would match up against.	01:46:08
	Whoever was running, that's what we always did.	01:46:10
	But now it's just the top four vote getters.	01:46:14
	As you pointed out, some people.	01:46:17
	Would benefit if people then vote.	01:46:19
	I will Councillor Collins to their own.	01:46:22
	Well, I think the the.	01:46:26
	County asked the.	01:46:28
	State Secretary of State to highlight there that you're allowed to.	01:46:31
	Vote for four councillors instead of.	01:46:35
	And so they bolded it, and they highlighted it.	01:46:37
	As well.	01:46:40
	Because I went, I went to that meeting.	01:46:40
	Macro, Linda.	01:46:45
	Anything new with your?	01:46:46
	Numerous things you're doing, I don't know how many more things can you do.	01:46:48
	Yeah, yeah. What else?	01:47:00
	Good job.	01:47:08
	And Vegeta, I heard you let the Co-op user.	01:47:09
	Center.	01:47:12
	But thank you for.	01:47:19
	Opening up and closing up too, so.	01:47:21
	That was nice. OK.	01:47:23
	Anything else for our?	01:47:26
	Christie already had your turn.	01:47:29
	Oh, OK.	01:47:32
	That's a terrific job.	01:47:46
	Who's that sitting next to you?	01:47:49
	Will she have the program?	01:47:52
	So what would you do?	01:47:54
	You were wow.	01:47:58
	What department? What did you do?	01:48:01
	Oh well, yes, stand up will ya?	01:48:09
	Did that make you want to be in the Police Department?	01:48:18
	I know that's right.	01:48:25
	Oh great, that's the boss.	01:48:29
	That's wonderful.	01:48:41
	You know I mean.	01:48:46
	Look at Delilah Vega. She's.	01:48:47
	The finance director at Tech, she was in that summer.	01:48:50
	Program.	01:48:53
	That's that's been going on for 30 years. We usually have well over 100.	01:48:55
	Kids, they get what, 650 or 750?	01:48:58
	Yeah, that's not the way you do it anymore.	01:49:03
	So what is?	01:49:06
	What did they end up getting?	01:49:06
	How much you? How much?	01:49:09
	Yeah, but how much does it end up?	01:49:12
	In their pocket.	01:49:14
	OK, so you're making me do math working.	01:49:18
	$1400.	01:49:20
	That's that's the money in their pocket and that's.	01:49:22
	That's really great for them.	01:49:25
	That's wonderful, yeah.	01:49:37
	Yeah, you still have that money in your pocket, or you spend it.	01:49:40
	Well, that's great though. That's terrific.	01:49:44
	Yeah, no, but that's I've always thought that was one of the.	01:49:49
	Good program, yeah.	01:49:53
	OK, I'll quit talking.	01:49:57
	We'll get. We'll get to the.	01:49:59
	Executive session.	01:50:03
	Not today, no.	01:50:05
	OK, they.	01:50:07
	Personnel matters. No, not.	01:50:10
	Well the 202 I got a letter from the tool base.	01:50:12
	Tula Rosa Basin.	01:50:15
	Down windows.	01:50:17
	And Luisa Lopez.	01:50:19
	Is going to have a meeting here.	01:50:21
	At City Hall on August 21st at 5:30.	01:50:23
	They want to inform.	01:50:27
	The fellow downwinders from Socorro and surrounding areas.	01:50:28
	What is going on with the process as you?	01:50:32
	And I have to say this but.	01:50:34
	The big, beautiful bill.	01:50:36
	I know I'm gone. I know you.	01:50:38
	Love that, but the big actually.	01:50:40
	Gave money for the Downwinders coverage.	01:50:43
	For their medical problems.	01:50:46
	And I think it can get up to $100,000.	01:50:48
	If you can prove certain things.	01:50:51
	So I think.	01:50:54
	And then there. But there are people now.	01:50:56
	That are scamming some of these people.	01:50:59
	And so.	01:51:01
	So it's important that if you are interested in this.	01:51:02
	That they'll have literature to pass out.	01:51:05
	And they will be available, and Louisa has been there from the beginning.	01:51:07
	You know, along with Miss Cordella.	01:51:12
	And all the people there.	01:51:14
	That's something. August 21st at 5:30 at City Hall.	01:51:16
	OK, personnel changes. I've got a bunch of them here.	01:51:22
	We've got.	01:51:25
	Lena Chavez and then.	01:51:26
	She did her. She does her duties pretty well.	01:51:29
	I don't know if you knew that we had our.	01:51:31
	For all the departments, we had a big OSHA.	01:51:35
	Violation and Lena along with the other division.	01:51:38
	Of people really clean that up and we're really.	01:51:42
	Proud that you did that, I think.	01:51:45
	The violation was.	01:51:47
	300,000.	01:51:48
	And so they brought it up that we sell with them.	01:51:50
	At 0 Victoria Salvar, the youth center.	01:51:53
	Glonda.	01:51:57
	At the Senior Center, Regina Valencia. At the Senior Center, Pete Lopez.	01:51:59
	Recreation Assistant.	01:52:03
	Probation completed.	01:52:04
	Antonette Lopez completed probation at the library.	01:52:06
	Shatia Apache.	01:52:09
	At the rodeo, temporary to full time, All right.	01:52:11
	José González Animal Shelter moved to the.	01:52:13
	General Control Officer Mark Mercer completed provision.	01:52:16
	Sarah Stanley, fire recruit. Jason Romero, fire recruit. Logan Walter, fire recruit.	01:52:19
	Jeremiah Garza, fire recruit. How about that?	01:52:25
	And.	01:52:29
	And one more Julian Mays, SO.	01:52:32
	With the help of you know if you want to speak to that.	01:52:35
	Tell it. Yeah, come on up. Because I think that's important for the county to thank the county and also.	01:52:38
	To finish out your staff.	01:52:43
	Just introduce yourself and my name is Daniel Pacheco, Captain with Socorro Fire Department.	01:52:45
	Yeah, so we just hired 5 new.	01:52:50
	Recruits.	01:52:51
	We actually had.	01:52:53
	How many applications?	01:52:55
	Already.	01:52:57
	17 Well, we had 17, but we tested 13, yes.	01:53:02
	Out of that.	01:53:07
	OK.	01:53:09
	And out of those?	01:53:14
	And we chose 5.	01:53:15
	We did have about.	01:53:17
	A good deliberation when it comes to.	01:53:18
	Choosing what fits the needs of Socorro Fire.	01:53:20
	5/3 are the county.	01:53:24
	Designates right? Yes.	01:53:27
	So there will be, and that's how the county will.	01:53:28
	Reimburse us.	01:53:30
	Yes, and that's the cherry on top. That's great.	01:53:38
	Try over doing great things. I mean, we just got.	01:53:41
	Almost done with all the restorations at the department.	01:53:44
	You know, the cleanup could. The roof repair is a lot better. Yeah, I mean, the roof is.	01:53:48
	Astronomically better. I mean, we've had a good rain and there's nothing left on the top of that roof. Before I had the	01:53:53
	opportunity to have all of it on top of my.	01:53:57
	Outside of my window that was collecting.	01:54:01
	I mean, it was terrible.	01:54:04
	But at the same time, they came in and did an amazing job.	01:54:05
	So congratulations.	01:54:08
	Mr. Fleming.	01:54:11
	Thank you, Mr. Captain. Do I actually see we have?	01:54:12
	A female.	01:54:17
	One of the new recruits.	01:54:19
	Yes, Oh yes, I'm actually.	01:54:21
	Lover she's.	01:54:23
	She's definitely fitting in. She's.	01:54:25
	Brilliant.	01:54:29
	So we're not having to worry about the five that we chose.	01:54:30
	We're not having to worry about anybody missing tests, failing tests. I mean, we're.	01:54:33
	We're at a position now that we're actually building the department as chief.	01:54:37
	Has been here.	01:54:42
	You know, numerous amount of times he's.	01:54:43
	He's definitely made a lot of headway for this department, you know, since he took over Chief Gonzalez.	01:54:46
	So congratulations to the captain. That's great that you guys.	01:54:51
	Doing great job with your people.	01:54:55
	Mr. Matt, did they get them? Did they get the new ambulance?	01:54:56
	I thought I'd say that's one. You got one.	01:55:00
	We're still waiting on another till about January.	01:55:03
	So for now, that one is done. It's in service. We're just waiting for it to get the radio.	01:55:06
	Which is another pricey thing, but nowadays.	01:55:11
	What is it? But so, yeah, we're just waiting on that and it's pretty much it's in service, it's ready to go in.	01:55:14
	They have nothing but great things to say about it so.	01:55:19
	That really helps.	01:55:22
	Thank you, Mr. Mr.	01:55:24
	I was going to make a motion to go ahead.	01:55:26
	Well, I'm gonna have finished.	01:55:29
	I just got sidetracked.	01:55:31
	Oh, hold on, I got Gabriel Luna who resigned.	01:55:32
	From the fire department, Liam Chavez from the Police Department and Garrett White.	01:55:36
	From the library circulation, now you can.	01:55:40
	Thank you, Kevin.	01:55:42
	Oh, Mr. Mayor, we'll make a motion to approve the personnel changes, as read.	01:55:45
	Second moved and seconded all in favor.	01:55:48
	Right now for the businesses.	01:55:51
	BNF Smith Francisco RV Rentals.	01:55:54
	There you are.	01:55:57
	Alice, Vicky.	01:55:58
	Amazon Mazon Bakery.	01:56:00
	At home.	01:56:03
	She's cooking out of the community kitchen. She could go in front of hunting and zoning and.	01:56:05
	And any man out of town, Boscocito.	01:56:22
	Peter Gonzalez and landscaping, Avi and.	01:56:25
	On our food cups.	01:56:27
	Maria Hertogh me on.	01:56:29
	Root cups banana.	01:56:31
	Box of Daddle.	01:56:34
	Out of town mobile discount.	01:56:35
	Grocery DNA drinks, non alcoholic drinks.	01:56:38
	Out of town, that's it.	01:56:43
	Move to approve the business registrations as read.	01:56:45
	Moved and seconded at all.	01:56:52
	And we'll have a meeting.	01:56:56
	Oh, I have a meeting September 16th.	01:56:58
	Are we are we back to two or is this?	01:57:02
	After September, Mr. Mayor.	01:57:05
	OK.	01:57:07
	Afternoon.	01:57:15

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	Oh, please, Mayor Basket here.	00:00:00
	Councillor Travis Lopez.	00:00:02
	Here, Councillor Dean.	00:00:04
	Councillor Fleming.	00:00:06
	Councillor Ocampo.	00:00:08
	Councillor O'gin.	00:00:11
	There, Councillor Partridge.	00:00:12
	Here, Councillor Romero.	00:00:14
	Councillor Salome.	00:00:16
	We do have a quorum.	00:00:17
	Mr. Mayor.	00:00:36
	Move to 2nd to discussion.	00:00:38
	All in favor.	00:00:43
	All right.	00:00:44
	And the.	00:00:46
	Well, who's next?	00:00:50
	Public form.	00:00:52
	Consent agenda too.	00:00:54
	Budget resolution.	00:00:59
	No ladies first.	00:01:07
	Craft on Weekends was a resounding success. Thank you so much to the city for all the help.	00:01:22
	I am particularly in charge of the youth.	00:01:29
	For community effort, we have over 65 volunteers the city tech.	00:01:31
	Many businesses come together to make this happen for the kids in our community.	00:01:36
	A couple of items on this report that I passed out to you. Healthy kids provided fruit and water. Yeah. Captain Louis Travis did	00:01:40
	an outstanding job of organizing the city police, that is.	00:01:46
	Always, always, always.	00:01:52
	The thing that keeps me up at night? Kids safety on the bike course and I don't.	00:01:54
	Worry nearly as much, and Captain Chavez is in charge.	00:01:58
	So I just really am grateful for the city support on that front.	00:02:02
	And EMS was great. They were everywhere I needed them to be. Thankfully we didn't act.	00:02:06
	Actually need them, but I like to know that they're there.	00:02:10
	It's actually required as part of our USA Triathlon sanction to.	00:02:13
	Kids received a bunch of free goodies.	00:02:18
	I had such great volunteers. This year we had 37 participants, which was a little bit low.	00:02:20
	Compared to the last few years since Covad, I attribute that to the fact that it was.	00:02:27
	A school day here in Sapporo. My local numbers in particular were just a little bit lower than usual.	00:02:31
	It's something that I.	00:02:37
	Want to remedy anything? Maybe I need to lobby to get that Friday off.	00:02:39
	On the school calendar next year, I'll be paying attention.	00:02:42
	But anyway, the kids who showed up had a great time, the parents were super pleased and we had a number of families come down	00:02:46
	from.	00:02:48
	So 37 total participants, 40% were from Socorro County.	00:02:51
	Almost 60% were past participants who've come to Sapporo, OR.	00:02:57
	Are in Superman, have done it before and so.	00:03:02
	It's typically our best recruiting tactic is.	00:03:05
	Word of mouth and kids who've done it before and tell their friends or their family and everything with.	00:03:07
	So again.	00:03:11
	Just a big thank you to the city for all the support.	00:03:13
	I love this event, I'm going to keep doing it as long as possible.	00:03:17
	As long as it's practical so my kids age out at least.	00:03:21
	So I know that when we see.	00:03:24
	Is here to talk about the adult triathlon.	00:03:27
	That's OK if you pay.	00:03:29
	Well, first of all, thank you for all the work you do.	00:03:30
	As a volunteer, I know you're.	00:03:35
	Are into it and that's that's what we need is people that are really.	00:03:37
	Passionate about running and.	00:03:40
	Thank you, thank you for your work that you, but my passion doesn't go very far if I don't have the help.	00:03:41
	Of the community too, so it is a.	00:03:46
	Definitely a joint effort.	00:03:48
	So thank you.	00:03:50
	Hey, I'm the director for the.	00:03:55
	Out of triathlon?	00:03:58
	I'll send you a.	00:03:59
	Bring copy of the report so you guys can see the numbers for.	00:04:01
	This was the second year we host the state championship.	00:04:04
	Next year where I only send applications so we can host the state championship again.	00:04:07
	That attract a lot of people and puts, you know, a good highlight in Socorro.	00:04:12
	And I'd say like.	00:04:16
	It would not be possible without the support of.	00:04:17
	The theory under the first of the first responders like this.	00:04:19
	Something that we require to do and you know it keeps all the participants.	00:04:24
	Faith We had around 200 volunteers.	00:04:28
	Many of those were from Sapporo.	00:04:31
	And seventy of those from from Albuquerque.	00:04:34
	But the rails are coming from like El Paso.	00:04:38
	Colorado.	00:04:41
	Places agree for that they need to come and stay in our hotel because they need to drive from far.	00:04:44
	So here again, thank you for the support.	00:04:48
	I emailed you a.	00:04:51
	Report by the end of the week.	00:04:54
	Thank you. Thank you for your effort. Also thank you.	00:04:56
	Comments.	00:05:00
	OK, Mr. Robin.	00:05:05
	Good evening.	00:05:11
	I'm here to report on our progress for Scott County Prevention Coalition.	00:05:14
	And I'm gonna report on the data that we've collected from the New Mexico Community Survey and the students of the Strategies for	00:05:18
	Success survey.	00:05:22
	The Mexican Community Survey is the survey that we collect.	00:05:27
	In March, April.	00:05:30
	And we collect that through online service surveying and also at Walmart doing a face to face collections.	00:05:32
	And then Strategy Success Survey is a survey that we administer to students at the middle school.	00:05:39
	And at the high school?	00:05:46
	And we collect that data and utilize that data to help drive some of our programs.	00:05:47
	Not only for our programs, but for scopes programs for the score county juvenile justice programs and other programs that are.	00:05:51
	In the state and in this area.	00:05:59
	I provided you a packet and I'm just going to hit the highlight points.	00:06:02
	And then that has data.	00:06:05
	That you can also.	00:06:07
	See the breakdown over the years.	00:06:09
	One area that I would like to kind of mention was.	00:06:13
	In the New Mexico Community Survey, it identifies the adults report an increase.	00:06:16
	In providing alcohol to minors.	00:06:22
	It went from a 4.3% to a 4.5%. And again, this is all anonymous, but this is adults saying that they are giving.	00:06:24
	To combiners.	00:06:33
	You can contribute that also. We had an increase in.	00:06:35
	Participants from the previous year.	00:06:39
	To this year.	00:06:41
	And so we've seen that increase each year. And so you'll see that data kind of.	00:06:42
	Jump up and down just a little bit in our various questions that we ask.	00:06:46
	And so I'm kind of.	00:06:49
	And it's only about a.	00:06:51
	A .2% difference.	00:06:53
	From last year's data to this year's data. So that could be.	00:06:55
	Or that data makes a little bit of changes because there isn't.	00:06:59
	An increase in participation.	00:07:02
	In the survey.	00:07:04
	Perceptions of alcohol use hurts the community financially. Continues to show a decrease.	00:07:08
	From 66.5% to 65.	00:07:13
	.9%.	00:07:16
	And what that means is the communities.	00:07:18
	Identifying that they don't see a.	00:07:20
	Relationship between alcohol use and impacting the community.	00:07:23
	As we know, we've seen some incidences where that did happen. Last year we had the the vehicle drive into.	00:07:28
	What used to be the bar?	00:07:34
	Plumbing and heating and the automotive.	00:07:36
	Drove right into the buildings.	00:07:39
	And that individual had been drinking, so those type of things.	00:07:41
	I don't know if they're relaying that.	00:07:44
	As far as impacted community out but.	00:07:45
	I see that as an impact to the community and so.	00:07:48
	We are going to try and do a.	00:07:51
	Good job of it.	00:07:54
	Informing the community through our advertisement.	00:07:55
	At the movie theaters and through our advertisement online.	00:07:58
	And when we hand out our informational bags.	00:08:01
	To kind of explain what?	00:08:04
	Impact the community is and see if we can help under the community understand.	00:08:05
	How that impact is happening through?	00:08:10
	Things such as that and other entities.	00:08:13
	Umm next data point is current drinking umm.	00:08:15
	Adults and individuals have filled out the New Mexico Community survey or identifying that.	00:08:20
	There has been a decrease.	00:08:25
	Continuing decrease, it went from 58.4.	00:08:27
	4% to 48.4 on 3%.	00:08:29
	That's a huge increase.	00:08:32
	And people identifying that they're drinking.	00:08:34
	And again.	00:08:36
	We had an increase in number of participants.	00:08:37
	So that shows that we've got a good representation that we're starting to see decrease in alcohol use in in the community as a	00:08:39
	whole.	00:08:43
	Perception of ease of teenage access to alcohol in the community.	00:08:49
	Continues to show a decrease.	00:08:53
	Last year was 82.8%. This year the community identified that they feel like.	00:08:56
	And they have less opportunity to receive alcohol. Is that 79.2%? So we're still seeing that decline which?	00:09:02
	That number we want to see go further down.	00:09:08
	We want to see it drop even more, but.	00:09:11
	79.79 point 2% isn't bad.	00:09:13
	And then significant decrease in public.	00:09:17
	Perception regarding the arrest of adults providing alcohol to.	00:09:19
	Minus that was a decrease or actually should be perception should be an increase.	00:09:23
	From 43.1% to 60.1%.	00:09:30
	So we more people are identifying that they're seeing that.	00:09:33
	Areas of possibility that.	00:09:37
	If you provide alcohol to a minor that.	00:09:39
	You're going to have some type of consequence.	00:09:41
	And so we're hoping that we can continue to see that number grow.	00:09:43
	More highlights from the Mexican Community survey.	00:09:48
	Perceived risk of harm associated with misuse prescription drugs.	00:09:51
	Showed an increase.	00:09:55
	Went to 93.4%.	00:09:57
	Reported harm of perception painkillers decreased among adults.	00:10:00
	To a low of 3.6%.	00:10:05
	Reported locking of painkillers increased.	00:10:08
	Among parents from 61% to 64.3%.	00:10:12
	And prevalence of receiving painkillers increased from 16.8%.	00:10:17
	To 21.9%.	00:10:23
	Number going in the wrong direction, a lot of people identifying that they're receiving more painkillers.	00:10:25
	Again, we have to contribute some of that to the increased number of participants.	00:10:30
	In that number slightly increasing.	00:10:36
	And then increase in survey, this number, I really like to see continue to go up and we've seen this number go up as we started	00:10:39
	to.	00:10:42
	You know, ask these questions.	00:10:47
	Since me and Joel took over at SCPC.	00:10:49
	We're last year we had 224 participants.	00:10:53
	This year we had 267 participants.	00:10:56
	Participating in the survey.	00:10:59
	Our goal was to hit around 300.	00:11:01
	Our overall goal is to get over what we had last year participating.	00:11:03
	We reach that.	00:11:07
	Our high end objective was to get around 300.	00:11:08
	We got close to it.	00:11:12
	We want to thank Socorro County for the juvenile justice probation on board.	00:11:14
	For helping us with meeting those increasing numbers, they provided some incentives in order to for us to hand out incentives in	00:11:19
	order for as part people participated.	00:11:24
	So I want to thank them.	00:11:29
	We also want to thank the capacity fraternity who again once again this year, helped us out.	00:11:30
	From Mexico Tech.	00:11:36
	Help us in collecting data.	00:11:37
	They collected data with us at Walmart. At Walmart, they also helped collect data on campus.	00:11:39
	They went from dorm room to dorm room handing out Donuts.	00:11:45
	As they asked participants to complete the survey.	00:11:49
	Next year we have a plan to do an activity on campus as long as it gets approved.	00:11:52
	We collect just a campus day where we can collect some data as well.	00:11:57
	To try and get some of that data and then again our Walmart collections.	00:12:01
	I want to jump to the SFS which is a strategy.	00:12:06
	Success Survey.	00:12:09
	This is the data we collect from students.	00:12:10
	Issaquah.	00:12:14
	By high school students was reported to be 16.6%.	00:12:16
	That's about steady for what it's been.	00:12:21
	From previous year.	00:12:23
	Marijuana use decreased according to middle school representation.	00:12:25
	Last year was at 81, eight point 1%. This year it was represented at 2.9%.	00:12:30
	I do want to put the caveat that we have had a decrease in number of participants.	00:12:37
	From middle school, High school.	00:12:41
	Participating partly was due to enrollment. Our enrollment numbers at both the middle school and high school are down.	00:12:44
	But also overall participation as far as getting them to complete.	00:12:49
	Survey. So we have some ideas on how we can hopefully get them to complete the survey next year as well and increase those	00:12:53
	numbers.	00:12:57
	Students continue to identify resilience factors such as wanting to take care of their health and.	00:13:02
	Affect the future plans. There's a reason not to drinking.	00:13:07
	Or use of other substances.	00:13:11
	Is a continuing reason why they're not using.	00:13:13
	And then other data. Students generally believe 90%.	00:13:18
	Or greater, that their parents think it is wrong.	00:13:22
	For them to use alcohol, marijuana and E cigarettes which is a strong.	00:13:25
	Protect the factor.	00:13:30
	Perception of harm for using low substances continues to increase among middle school youth.	00:13:31
	So they're understanding each thing of substances is a.	00:13:37
	A detriment and it is harmful.	00:13:40
	And then pass to your sadness and openness, hopelessness and suicidal. I didn't.	00:13:42
	Ideation and continues to show a decrease both in the middle of.	00:13:47
	The other things I want to print out.	00:13:53
	Is uh.	00:13:56
	We continue to do the Touch My breath at the middle school and high school we are in talks with.	00:13:58
	The charter school.	00:14:02
	Cottonwood Guy to provide a presentation at Cottonwood Valley.	00:14:04
	We just need to set a date with them.	00:14:08
	And then still waiting to get back from Magdalena about providing a.	00:14:10
	A presentation for the middle school high school at Magdalena so we can reach their students as well and help provide them	00:14:15
	information about the harm of vaping.	00:14:19
	As a.	00:14:24
	Relates to the body.	00:14:26
	Any questions?	00:14:28
	Thank you, Chris. Thank you very much.	00:14:34
	Thank you.	00:14:36
	But.	00:14:40
	Former mayor and City Council members, my name is Peter Otero.	00:14:44
	I requested some time today to talk about the project.	00:14:48
	That is uh, uh.	00:14:51
	Happening up on Evergreen.	00:14:53
	The wastewater.	00:14:54
	Drainage system.	00:14:56
	The concern that I'm bringing to the table.	00:14:59
	His statement?	00:15:01
	I got 4 up on that road.	00:15:03
	You know I.	00:15:06
	I have been pretty happy for the community up there to.	00:15:07
	Be able to get sewage and sold and stuff.	00:15:10
	But as we proceeded through this.	00:15:13
	Project uh.	00:15:15
	The roads have been a nightmare.	00:15:16
	The management.	00:15:18
	Construction has been pretty rough.	00:15:20
	Umm.	00:15:22
	Cycle because.	00:15:26
	They went directing traffic by. They sent me through the weeds.	00:15:27
	OK, I.	00:15:31
	Willing to be patient and I'm, you know.	00:15:34
	Happy to see this through for a year or however long it's going to take to get to the end.	00:15:39
	I want to know that the city is actually planning on repeating that road.	00:15:44
	I talked to your project manager.	00:15:48
	Like a week or two ago.	00:15:51
	He explained to me that the city ran out of money.	00:15:53
	For the materials finished plumbing that road.	00:15:56
	And I'm sorry to say that again.	00:15:59
	So the project manager.	00:16:02
	Said that the reason you guys are selling right now?	00:16:04
	Versus repaving.	00:16:08
	Is because funds ran out.	00:16:10
	To get all the pipes and stuff that you need.	00:16:13
	Finish the drainage.	00:16:15
	Something like.	00:16:17
	And you guys are going to have to dig it up again.	00:16:18
	And get the money for.	00:16:21
	That's the project manager.	00:16:22
	The contracting firm or.	00:16:24
	Lloyd and I told you that.	00:16:26
	I don't know this.	00:16:28
	And he said.	00:16:31
	Yeah, we.	00:16:32
	Want to repave that road?	00:16:33
	But we're not gonna.	00:16:36
	Pay that right now having to dig it up.	00:16:37
	In the future.	00:16:40
	For the additional pipes, right?	00:16:41
	Well, I don't want.	00:16:43
	Evergreen to be put.	00:16:44
	On the back burner.	00:16:46
	As far as getting that road repaved?	00:16:47
	I would really hate to see it turn into someday.	00:16:50
	That then turns into never.	00:16:53
	And so I was hoping that you guys might be.	00:16:55
	Provide me with information on.	00:16:58
	Yeah.	00:17:00
	Ruby is not here.	00:17:03
	Oh, Ruby, that's the first time I heard the Lord didn't mention that to me.	00:17:05
	I had not either, so I'll have to recheck with Lloyd on that.	00:17:18
	And he's not. He's away on vacation until tomorrow.	00:17:23
	But I will check and I haven't contact you. You live out that way.	00:17:26
	Because I've had, I've had multiple complaints. There's no question about people damaging the, you know, the road and.	00:17:30
	People's mailboxes are being pushed down by.	00:17:36
	Gravel and so forth.	00:17:38
	But you know, we spent.	00:17:40
	What 15,000,000?	00:17:42
	10 million for that project just for that area, so.	00:17:46
	But uh.	00:17:49
	I'll get back with you. I was under the impression the road's gonna be repaved.	00:17:50
	That's what I am hoping for. Did you talk to him just recently or?	00:17:54
	It was like 2 weeks ago.	00:17:58
	I can't win that. You guys were just gonna jump seal that. We'll have a talk with them.	00:18:00
	OK, make sure.	00:18:05
	Contact. I'm going to ask him to contact everybody down there to let them know what the projects about.	00:18:06
	OK. That that would be helpful and like if we could just get.	00:18:12
	Timeline and some assurance that will actually be repaid. We flood out there a lot.	00:18:14
	From the Mesa and chip sales, not going to stand out.	00:18:20
	Water and stuff so.	00:18:24
	I think, I think something we have to look at Donald.	00:18:25
	And I was on Ruby. I hadn't heard that there was shortfall on.	00:18:29
	I'm finishing the project.	00:18:33
	Is that something about meeting another 3,000,000 bucks for let me. I'll probably have some answers by the end of the meeting, so	00:18:43
	I'm gonna.	00:18:46
	Extra.	00:18:50
	OK, OK. Yeah. I just, I want to bring some attention to it, make sure it doesn't.	00:18:51
	Get forgotten.	00:18:55
	And you know, I guess if we have to come back to this in the future, I'll.	00:18:57
	Make sure to.	00:19:01
	Have a team of neighbors and pitchboards and torches and all that.	00:19:02
	Well, we can always take the sewer out.	00:19:07
	Not even gonna get the Superman. I just want to say that everybody in the city is born the.	00:19:09
	Cost of that, we're getting this sewer up there. So you know, I think there's got to be a little give and take there. But I think	00:19:15
	you're right about the pavement. I think it needs to be repaid.	00:19:19
	But.	00:19:24
	You know, there's a little bit of.	00:19:26
	Pain when we grow.	00:19:28
	What's going to happen up there? Anybody that has less than 3/4 of an acre?	00:19:31
	Is not going to be able to get a septic tank.	00:19:34
	And so your land and your house.	00:19:37
	Won't be able to have.	00:19:41
	Sewer if we don't have the sewer.	00:19:42
	System.	00:19:45
	Because that's the last part of the sword.	00:19:46
	And the city we've been all through, it's been.	00:19:47
	$60 million project.	00:19:51
	Over the last 15 years.	00:19:53
	But that's that's part of it. So that's.	00:19:55
	But I'm going to text him right now about that. I'll sit here and wait just in case you actually break into the meeting and.	00:19:57
	I will do that, but I appreciate you coming by.	00:20:07
	Yeah. Yes, Sir. Yes, Sir.	00:20:09
	Three more meter, 1 watery.	00:20:23
	Turn down the background.	00:20:28
	But we don't need water.	00:20:31
	The.	00:20:34
	It might be a separate.	00:20:41
	Issue, but I'm not sure about the.	00:20:42
	The water project out there, I think.	00:20:45
	Really. We've asked for monies from the.	00:20:46
	Federal Representatives for Water Project.	00:20:50
	But that area I didn't.	00:20:55
	I didn't realize. The only thought I know about is up there. Is that the?	00:20:57
	The tank.	00:21:01
	And the water pressure.	00:21:02
	As low out of where you're at because the tank elevation.	00:21:03
	And the elevation of the city, but that elevation.	00:21:07
	And then we put booster pumps in there is going to cause more problems.	00:21:10
	Stream. So that's that's been the problem there with the.	00:21:13
	For the pressure.	00:21:16
	And Mr. Mayor.	00:21:18
	Senator Heinrich's office contacted me yesterday.	00:21:19
	And uh.	00:21:23
	The water tank project.	00:21:25
	For lack of a better phrase, Leach line project.	00:21:27
	As many again through the first step of the.	00:21:30
	Federal budget so.	00:21:33
	Fingers crossed that it keeps moving forward.	00:21:35
	Noted. I just.	00:21:44
	I think he's in.	00:21:47
	Laughlin or Las Vegas or something but.	00:21:48
	He better get away from the slot.	00:21:50
	Otherwise, I'll call him and put him on the air.	00:21:53
	So anyway, thank you for bringing that up and the wire.	00:21:56
	I'll look into the water thing. I'm not sure about the.	00:22:00
	About the line.	00:22:04
	OK, well here's the answer.	00:22:07
	Well, a minute.	00:22:13
	It is.	00:22:15
	Or his answer was no, but I don't know what what the no was for.	00:22:18
	And, Mr. Mayor, just one other point.	00:22:24
	And as a matter of fact, the.	00:22:26
	Ordinance for.	00:22:28
	Publications on the agenda later, but.	00:22:30
	This source of funding for this project doesn't include roads, and it doesn't include water. It's only wastewater.	00:22:33
	Are we paving it?	00:22:40
	We've got a lot of Rd. projects, but every year we apply through the dot for three separate.	00:22:49
	Funding sources the math Local Government Growth Fund and the TPF Fund.	00:22:55
	But that street so long it probably be 3 years worth of funding.	00:22:59
	To get the entire Rd. paved so.	00:23:03
	We'll put it on the list.	00:23:05
	And the Council approves what we, what we apply for.	00:23:06
	His answer is not not going to pave it.	00:23:11
	So let me let.	00:23:14
	Yeah, that's what he says.	00:23:16
	So let me let me get that clarified when he comes back into town tomorrow.	00:23:18
	And see what the money might be that.	00:23:22
	Because usually when we do a road project, you know, sewer project.	00:23:24
	We pay specifically the areas that was cut.	00:23:28
	You know we do that. We don't just chip seal that.	00:23:31
	So I'm not sure exactly why that.	00:23:34
	Because we've paved everything that we've always.	00:23:37
	That was what was done with the sewer projects.	00:23:40
	Again, if you. Again this is kind of a short text, but.	00:23:42
	The answer is no.	00:23:47
	But then let me get that clarified as to how we can.	00:23:48
	Go by trying to get it paved and how much of it?	00:23:51
	No.	00:23:53
	Please, next week. Next week would be good.	00:23:58
	And he says, we did talk about it. They were only going to patch David.	00:24:01
	So there will have.	00:24:06
	Hatch Paper.	00:24:07
	The threat.	00:24:09
	But then the whole Rd.	00:24:10
	Probably is going to be another project, but let me find out, I'll meet with you next week.	00:24:11
	I'll get that. Yeah, sure.	00:24:15
	No, Yeah, yeah.	00:24:17
	Mr. Mayor. Mr. Mayor.	00:24:19
	Do we still have that?	00:24:22
	We had a list at one time about.	00:24:23
	Roads we were doing kind of a priority.	00:24:25
	Don't have that anymore or I haven't. I haven't seen an update or.	00:24:29
	Yeah, I know. I think we have. We, we.	00:24:33
	I don't have a list.	00:24:36
	And doing major, I mean.	00:24:38
	I've spent millions on Monsoneris and.	00:24:39
	Even California was repaved at one time and.	00:24:43
	You know Bullock was.	00:24:46
	$5 million project.	00:24:47
	College was done.	00:24:49
	Franklin was done.	00:24:51
	So you know we are doing Cuba Rd.	00:24:53
	We're just finishing up the paperwork to get that finished.	00:24:56
	So we're doing that and they're.	00:25:00
	Those are the roles that we have that are the main thoroughfares.	00:25:01
	Residential roads we have not done.	00:25:05
	Evergreen definitely needs to be done. It's a major, it's a major thoroughfare.	00:25:08
	That goes to your houses and goes to the fire Academy.	00:25:12
	And we do. I think that needs to get done.	00:25:15
	No question about it.	00:25:18
	You're welcome.	00:25:21
	Anyone else?	00:25:22
	Public forum.	00:25:24
	Oh, you're not that public.	00:25:27
	All right, this is the employee forum.	00:25:31
	Mr. Mayor, Mr. When you discussed that we just had.	00:25:34
	Probably thinking of it spring as well 'cause.	00:25:39
	Right. Yeah, OK.	00:25:41
	Well.	00:25:43
	Spring Street is another project, but that's Hwy. 60.	00:25:44
	And Hwy. 60 will be done.	00:25:48
	We're looking for it's four years.	00:25:51
	So we're looking for funds. We had a meeting last week.	00:25:53
	With the highway department and Mold and Corbin.	00:25:56
	Who's designing it?	00:25:59
	And we have to do the water.	00:26:00
	And sure first.	00:26:03
	So, and that's a.	00:26:05
	$4 million project.	00:26:06
	So we're looking for monies to do that.	00:26:07
	But and they should get done.	00:26:09
	It needs to get done before they put down new pavement.	00:26:11
	So thank you, Mr. Mark.	00:26:14
	Cheyenne, what are you doing? So I just wanted to give you guys a quick update. The paper that I just passed out is all of our	00:26:17
	conventions and our rentals up to date.	00:26:21
	Umm, so you'll see the highlighted portion is what we have brought in.	00:26:27
	This year so far.	00:26:30
	Our biggest rental to date was actually last week, Monday through Wednesday, and that was for the bond technician.	00:26:31
	Foundation.	00:26:37
	They have a national conference that they bring down during that week and they utilize the Convention Center.	00:26:38
	Like I said, Monday through Wednesday.	00:26:44
	And so they brought us in.	00:26:46
	A lot of money and we're we're definitely very thankful for them as a.	00:26:47
	Busy week for us, but we made it through.	00:26:50
	We've also had just other people in there just.	00:26:54
	Private rentals, we've had kind of anything that you can imagine in.	00:26:56
	If you guys have any questions about.	00:27:00
	Convention Center rental specifically, feel free to reach outlet me know.	00:27:02
	Otherwise, I also wanted to talk about hot August nights.	00:27:05
	That was on the Plaza this last weekend.	00:27:08
	We had.	00:27:10
	Seven different bands that performed on the gazebo.	00:27:11
	It was a Friday and Saturday night event.	00:27:15
	Friday night we just had music and food vendors out there and then Saturday night Sole brought his Sakura Wrestling team out and	00:27:17
	they were wrestling out on the.	00:27:21
	Pavement at a little tournament, people really enjoyed that.	00:27:25
	So everything for Hierarchy's Nights went well.	00:27:28
	Now we're getting ready for the pro rodeo and all the stuff for County Fair, so we're just right on to the next one.	00:27:31
	How was the wrestling?	00:27:38
	That was good. I had told Cheyenne and Daryl when I met with them that.	00:27:40
	I would test run it with just our group just to kind of get a feel for the.	00:27:44
	Venue and how we can do it.	00:27:48
	And once we got out there and we set up the map.	00:27:50
	We just practice. They're called a practice on the Plaza or twilight night.	00:27:53
	And brought the kids out there. They wrestle a little bit, they practice a little bit. And the music was playing in the	00:27:56
	background. The parents really seemed to enjoy the event. They brought some chairs, hung out.	00:28:01
	Had refreshments.	00:28:06
	So I talked to Cheyenne and said we could probably grow that next year. I cover with.	00:28:07
	Could add a three on three basketball tournament as long as the city is OK with it to the attention.	00:28:12
	Some ******** out there and the wrestling team could.	00:28:16
	Could handle doing the whole event.	00:28:19
	When it comes to giving some entertainment for the kiddos and adults out there, just something for them to do. But.	00:28:21
	It was more of a test run.	00:28:27
	But it was a great success. Everybody really liked it and seen Mr. Romero there and.	00:28:28
	Few other counselors.	00:28:32
	Go by and it's good. It was really good. I think it can be something really big. We just.	00:28:33
	I don't want to invite a bunch of out of towners.	00:28:37
	When I don't know if I can do a good job at the event.	00:28:39
	'Cause then you don't get a.	00:28:42
	First, you know, the second chance, make a first impression on those events, Yeah.	00:28:43
	It won't come back if it's not a good event.	00:28:47
	So we're going to make it. They've been coming back with all the.	00:28:49
	Events that you've had, I'm just waiting for the.	00:28:52
	WWE Raw, Are you gonna have that? That would be cool.	00:28:55
	At least get once a year that.	00:29:00
	And then I just also wanted to give a huge shout out to Kevin and Adam on the Plaza. I really wouldn't be able to do any of the	00:29:04
	events on the Plaza without them. So they're a huge help for us. And then lefty, also lefty round sound for me for the whole	00:29:08
	event, so.	00:29:12
	Huge thank you to all of them, the whole all of Lloyd's crew. They really helped us out with all of our events on the Plaza.	00:29:15
	Good job and to you also great.	00:29:21
	You couldn't wait till all the other guys in the back row wanted to speak at the end of the meeting.	00:29:25
	Come on, you guys want to make public comments too?	00:29:30
	And look at this, look at the money she's making here.	00:29:35
	The important thing?	00:29:38
	OK, we shall move on to all these.	00:29:40
	Different things that we've got ordinances for.	00:29:44
	And they're they're.	00:29:47
	Ordinances.	00:29:48
	Donald, you want to just go through all the different ordinances. You saw that?	00:29:51
	Yes, Sir, the first one is.	00:29:55
	Exactly how we did the.	00:29:58
	The what it's called the Hope forms area in Chaparral.	00:30:01
	So we just mimic that same.	00:30:06
	Coordinates and.	00:30:09
	Both are for publication only.	00:30:11
	But it's a scaled.	00:30:12
	Payment plan.	00:30:15
	We're trying to encourage people to sign up to the on the sewer system as soon as possible. It's cheaper in the first year.	00:30:17
	It's a little more expensive and it's $1000.	00:30:23
	The third year and ask her.	00:30:26
	And I don't believe we allow payment plans after the third year.	00:30:28
	So we're trying to encourage people.	00:30:32
	To hook up to our system and as you said earlier.	00:30:34
	The state's going to require people to do it.	00:30:37
	With if they're on septic systems and if they need to replace it, they won't be able to.	00:30:39
	We're also trying to help people not to pay all the maintenance for a septic system. It all protects our groundwater.	00:30:44
	The second one is.	00:30:49
	A quick question there.	00:30:51
	Now how do? How do you come to?	00:30:53
	To those rates.	00:30:55
	How did you come up with $100?	00:30:59
	Next week.	00:31:02
	But why did we pick that number?	00:31:08
	Compared to other cities.	00:31:23
	The hook up is and we've always kept it that way.	00:31:24
	Is thousands of dollars less.	00:31:28
	I was under the impression that.	00:31:33
	It was uh, uh.	00:31:35
	The amount?	00:31:36
	That was charged for the hookup was.	00:31:37
	Was roughly or exactly the amount it costs the city.	00:31:40
	To hook it up.	00:31:43
	Well, the other part of the impact to the sewer plant.	00:31:45
	Because more people hook up, the more impact is on a sewer plant, so.	00:31:48
	That's got to be kind of factored in, but.	00:31:52
	I think.	00:31:54
	Ostensibly, that's where the fee comes from.	00:31:55
	Is the cost of hooking it up in the material.	00:31:58
	Which doesn't take into account.	00:32:01
	Really, the impact on the sewer plant.	00:32:04
	If it needs a coming of 10,000 people.	00:32:07
	All of a sudden hooked up.	00:32:09
	Our sewer plant would have to be so that.	00:32:11
	That has to be amortized into the.	00:32:13
	The bill, but it's not a lot.	00:32:15
	And then there's a graduated break, right?	00:32:30
	Yes Sir, you hook up now compared to what you would.	00:32:33
	Hey, 2-3 years from now.	00:32:36
	Yes, Sir, during the first year 650.	00:32:38
	Following the first year, it's 1000.	00:32:42
	And it depends on if you're within the city limits.	00:32:44
	And different things, but they're essentially the same thing but.	00:32:47
	By early.	00:32:51
	We can help you get a payment plan.	00:32:52
	You know, some people aren't going to have $1000 or.	00:32:55
	Even 6:50 and we have a.	00:32:58
	And amortization schedule for them to get it paid off at $50.00 a month?	00:33:00
	The second ordinance.	00:33:05
	Is in relation to this project.	00:33:07
	This is amending our loan.	00:33:10
	And grant agreement with the Clean Water State Revolving Fund.	00:33:14
	For the wastewater treatment plant.	00:33:18
	And it is.	00:33:20
	Increasing our own amount.	00:33:22
	By 100,000.	00:33:23
	And loan principal forgiveness of 400,000, so we're getting 500,000 for 100,000.	00:33:24
	And these are both for advertisement only.	00:33:30
	And that had to do with the.	00:33:32
	Belt filter press.	00:33:35
	And the sewer plant?	00:33:38
	Because the cost of.	00:33:41
	For redoing that which we need to do right now.	00:33:43
	Ran over and then we applied to the state. Ruby did, Donald did.	00:33:45
	And, umm.	00:33:50
	They gave us a forgetfully wonderful needed 500,000 more.	00:33:51
	And they actually gave us.	00:33:55
	For 100,000 gave us another 400.	00:33:57
	That they forgive.	00:34:00
	So we've got 400,000 more to.	00:34:01
	Finish up the bell filter press.	00:34:03
	Mr. Mayor, I'm just going back to the.	00:34:06
	Last resolution.	00:34:09
	So briefly if they don't.	00:34:10
	What's the result if somebody doesn't connect?	00:34:13
	After the three-year period, there's no fine.	00:34:15
	But it will be on them.	00:34:19
	I don't know what the.	00:34:20
	Fee is going to be done in three years.	00:34:22
	It's also in the ordinance.	00:34:24
	Or the proposed ordinance.	00:34:26
	And I.	00:34:28
	When we first did.	00:34:31
	Back on Hope Farms and.	00:34:32
	Chaparral.	00:34:34
	It was through a USDA loan.	00:34:35
	And they forced us to have an ordinance that said.	00:34:37
	You have three years to be hooked up.	00:34:39
	Or we won't ever hook you up.	00:34:41
	And that's essentially what's in this proposed 1.	00:34:43
	Says again, it's just trying to.	00:34:45
	Encourage people to sign up as soon as possible. It's cheaper, we can finance it for them.	00:34:46
	It's better for the community, it's better for our groundwater.	00:34:51
	Is there some sort of a?	00:34:54
	Like, I mean we.	00:34:56
	We're at the beginning of the project, but there'll be some sort of advertisement for this or some sort. I mean, I'm just gonna go	00:34:58
	into publication, but some simpler form for people to.	00:35:02
	See and know that that's a possibility, but we probably need to get a fire up for all the people that live up there.	00:35:06
	We'll try to get that. That's a good point.	00:35:12
	Let's show U.S. Open. So let's say that it's a.	00:35:15
	Somebody owns it, they sell it.	00:35:18
	And the.	00:35:20
	Current owners.	00:35:21
	Do not do it within the three years.	00:35:22
	And then you come in and buy it.	00:35:25
	So you're not allowed to.	00:35:27
	Hook it up because it's already been passed for three years. But it wasn't.	00:35:29
	Oh, I mean, that's a.	00:35:34
	Curveball.	00:35:35
	Yeah, I know.	00:35:37
	I think they probably get another shot at it for the first year.	00:35:38
	Mr. Mayor has ever changed his hands.	00:35:42
	That we had enough.	00:35:44
	You know, doing a job like that where an uncommitted job was done and then you have to.	00:35:46
	They have to amend it.	00:35:51
	Like a permit from what I've seen and what I dealt with.	00:35:52
	Finite stack system. For instance. It was put on, permitted and then.	00:35:57
	A gas meter is removed because of a gasoline. Then everything has to be brought up to code, so meaning.	00:36:01
	When they sold the property.	00:36:05
	You would think it would have to be.	00:36:06
	That the people that sold it would have to.	00:36:08
	Either responsible party to.	00:36:10
	You know, follow the ordinance or the city.	00:36:13
	Ordinance to do.	00:36:15
	What was asked of them?	00:36:16
	Something in that personal.	00:36:18
	It'd be like paying the property taxes that are due on the property.	00:36:19
	If you still owe that.	00:36:22
	You could probably put that into your purchase. Agree. Yeah.	00:36:24
	Probably be wise to do.	00:36:27
	Maybe we should look into that, I mean.	00:36:30
	**** because not that doesn't happen a lot, you know what I mean? For sure.	00:36:32
	If you buy it on a real estate contract or whatever, they're not gonna.	00:36:36
	Want to do all these?	00:36:39
	It will happen out there.	00:36:43
	But anyway.	00:36:44
	These are for publication.	00:36:45
	So if we could get a motion.	00:36:47
	Publish these.	00:36:49
	Second moved and seconded. Any further discussion.	00:36:51
	All in favor.	00:36:54
	These are the ordinances.	00:36:56
	Judge is here.	00:36:58
	For the uniformed traffic ordinance.	00:36:59
	And the updated penalty assessments.	00:37:02
	So that's just to comply with.	00:37:07
	What's going on in the state now?	00:37:10
	I think we need. Did we? Was it the vote? I'm sorry, should have been.	00:37:13
	No, that's just a public. It's not an ordinance. There's two different ordinance for publication.	00:37:17
	Yeah, Yep.	00:37:21
	So what was that A?	00:37:23
	Was that a combined motion or is it just for two 05/25/08? I thought it was a combined motion for publication.	00:37:24
	We can do them separately if that's better.	00:37:33
	So let's do the first one. Ordinance #25-08-19A.	00:37:36
	For publication.	00:37:41
	My motion, OK.	00:37:43
	Moved and seconded all in favor.	00:37:44
	And be ordinance #25-08-19-B.	00:37:46
	Moved and seconded all in favor.	00:37:52
	Aye, now the ordinances that would be accepted.	00:37:54
	Are these two ordinances we can do? Ordinance #25-08-19C.	00:37:59
	Uniform Traffic ordinance update.	00:38:03
	So that's an action item.	00:38:06
	And this is just to comply with the.	00:38:08
	Current state statutes I guess.	00:38:11
	Mr. Fleming.	00:38:16
	Passage work.	00:38:18
	CNN.	00:38:24
	Second moved and seconded discussion.	00:38:26
	Roll call.	00:38:29
	Yes.	00:38:35
	Yes, Councillor Ocampo.	00:38:37
	Councillor Ogame.	00:38:41
	Councillor Partridge.	00:38:43
	Councillor Romero, Yes.	00:38:45
	Yes.	00:38:47
	Obey ordinance #25-08-19D. Update the penalty assessments.	00:38:49
	Mr. Mayor.	00:38:57
	Ordinance #25-0.	00:39:00
	Dash 19D.	00:39:03
	And seconded discussion.	00:39:06
	Well, calculate so, Mr. Mayor.	00:39:08
	The discussion, OK.	00:39:10
	So this.	00:39:13
	If the agenda items pass.	00:39:15
	At a later date as well too.	00:39:18
	And this would be null and.	00:39:20
	That we're doing. Is that what would happen?	00:39:22
	The agenda item that you're talking about as far as designating the Segura County Magistrate Court.	00:39:25
	As having jurisdiction.	00:39:31
	Is not to abolish the court, it's just to look into it. It's not a matter of.	00:39:33
	This passing this resolution.	00:39:38
	Negate these ordinances yet.	00:39:41
	Once the resolution is made.	00:39:43
	That you? I think you're referring to that one.	00:39:45
	Once that resolution is made, an appointment of a committee.	00:39:47
	And the committee then has to come back.	00:39:51
	To the City Council and you have to have.	00:39:53
	3/4 of the.	00:39:55
	Of the I think, I think just my question was that it would that.	00:39:57
	I mean, we can get into those later to get into that later, but as far as this it goes into effect and then.	00:40:00
	If it does, go if it does.	00:40:06
	Go through all the steps in the future.	00:40:08
	These will all be sunset area.	00:40:10
	Yeah, but we have to. We have a current judge.	00:40:14
	We're updating it now.	00:40:17
	So now roll call.	00:40:18
	Councillor Travis Lopez, Yes.	00:40:20
	Councillor Dean.	00:40:22
	Yes, Councillor Fleming.	00:40:23
	Yes.	00:40:24
	Councillor O'gin.	00:40:28
	Yes, Councillor Partridge, Yes.	00:40:29
	Answer Romero.	00:40:31
	Yes.	00:40:32
	Passes.	00:40:34
	All right, now the.	00:40:36
	Resolution 25-08-19.	00:40:37
	Is local government planning grant application?	00:40:45
	And Kristen, are you here for that?	00:40:49
	Yes, you are.	00:40:51
	We're happy to have.	00:40:53
	Mrga to help us with this.	00:40:54
	Hello everyone.	00:40:58
	Yes, so I have been working with the New Mexico Finance Authority. Sorry, that's loud. Umm.	00:40:59
	On an application to help the City of Socorro develop a new economic development feasibility plan.	00:41:05
	Because the last plan.	00:41:12
	Has been many moons ago.	00:41:14
	And the work that merged has been doing for the Economic Recovery project from 2020 to 2023.	00:41:16
	Is a lot of those reports are what is being submitted?	00:41:22
	On behalf of the Cities of Coral for grant writing purposes because it's more current.	00:41:26
	And so.	00:41:30
	Merged, being the Middle Rio Grande Economic Development Association, wanted to help the city as a coral position itself.	00:41:31
	To be.	00:41:38
	Able to apply for more funding and.	00:41:39
	This application through the New Mexico Finance Authority will.	00:41:41
	Provide $75,000 to the City of the Socorro to hire consultants.	00:41:46
	To carry out that process and so I.	00:41:51
	The resolution is a mandatory request from the New Mexico Finance Authority.	00:41:54
	Once we have the resolution, if it does pass.	00:41:59
	We we attach that to the application, the application Donald and I have been working together and Lena.	00:42:01
	It is ready to go as soon as this is finalized. I did put in the application.	00:42:07
	That we would like to have from October 1st, 2025 until June 30th of 26 to complete the.	00:42:12
	Annual report because.	00:42:19
	What I've seen in my experience is a lot of people think you can turn out these reports in a couple months.	00:42:21
	It needs the time.	00:42:26
	To be done well and I think 8 months is a good.	00:42:27
	Marker for that.	00:42:30
	And I've also reached out to many colleagues across New Mexico and, you know, United States to get a list of.	00:42:31
	Umm, potential consultants so that we, the city of Socorro, can put it out for RFP and then we could.	00:42:39
	Everyone can score it, whoever that committee is.	00:42:45
	To determine the best.	00:42:48
	The best fit for.	00:42:50
	The city of Socorro and so we are here to do that today to.	00:42:51
	Hopefully position Sapporo to be better.	00:42:55
	Prepared to receive more funding from state and local federal levels.	00:42:58
	Instrument I'll make a motion to pass resolution #25-08-19A.	00:43:03
	Question. So is this pretty well that we're going to get it?	00:43:10
	Yeah.	00:43:13
	And we also just select the.	00:43:15
	The City Council know that I have been working with.	00:43:17
	Terracon, the consultants to do the due diligence study at the industrial park.	00:43:19
	That has we did the walkthrough two weeks ago at the industrial park and so.	00:43:24
	Hopefully we will have that due diligence study done, which is another.	00:43:28
	Requirement for businesses to move into the industrial park, especially if they need lending from banks.	00:43:32
	Banks require due diligence, so we're working on that and we're also working with the Department of Transportation group.	00:43:37
	To start a housing study. So there's a lot of good things happening right now and I'm really excited to see the progress.	00:43:43
	Now that we have you here, you want to just briefly talk about the Community Kitchen?	00:43:49
	How good that was. Oh yes, we recently had an open house at the Sapporo Regional Commercial Kitchen.	00:43:56
	We had a three phase project for that.	00:44:01
	Commercial Kitchen.	00:44:03
	Merge that was able to put $50,000 into that kitchen.	00:44:05
	It was very well attended. We actually is. The exciting part about this is that the New Mexico Economic Development Department	00:44:09
	brought all their staff from across the state and they want to do multiple tours because.	00:44:15
	Merge that was able to create a tangible project in other communities.	00:44:23
	Are not, and so they're trying to showcase this pilot project.	00:44:27
	To other communities as hey, you can do this with this funding stream.	00:44:31
	We want to see more projects that are becoming business and computers creating jobs.	00:44:35
	Agri business, you know.	00:44:40
	Opportunities and so we received a lot of.	00:44:42
	Positive. Umm.	00:44:46
	Feedback and a lot of.	00:44:48
	You know a lot of.	00:44:50
	Publicity for this event and so.	00:44:52
	And another benefit of this is that the kitchen has now.	00:44:54
	Has now caught up with their rent with the city until September of 2026. So I'm really happy that they're in a very sustainable	00:44:58
	place right now.	00:45:02
	And we've also had new people come from Berlin to use the kitchen, which is the whole goal of making it regional is that.	00:45:06
	This is the most inexpensive commercial kitchen in the middle Rio Grande Valley.	00:45:13
	And it makes more sense to drive your.	00:45:18
	And use the kitchen for $9 an hour than it does to pay.	00:45:20
	$20.00 an hour in Albuquerque and so.	00:45:23
	We're doing some really good things, I think, for the community and.	00:45:26
	It's exciting, so.	00:45:29
	Thank you for being the point person on that and then all in favor.	00:45:33
	Aye.	00:45:40
	The Socorro electric Co-op.	00:45:41
	Economic development rate possibilities.	00:45:44
	If Manny, well, it's it's it's.	00:45:47
	Nice that you mentioned that.	00:45:51
	But we're we're right in the middle of mediation.	00:45:53
	With the.	00:45:56
	The core, which has been.	00:45:57
	Private. It's not not.	00:46:00
	What do they call it?	00:46:03
	Is there a word for that confidential? I don't see the wrong.	00:46:05
	I don't say the wrong word.	00:46:08
	It's confidential.	00:46:09
	That's between tech.	00:46:11
	Electric OP.	00:46:13
	And the city of Socorro.	00:46:14
	And it.	00:46:16
	Basically revolves around.	00:46:17
	The PRC.	00:46:19
	Declaration.	00:46:23
	Penalizing the cocoa.	00:46:25
	For not following through with rapes.	00:46:28
	And it includes economic development rate.	00:46:31
	And includes LED lighting rates.	00:46:34
	It includes.	00:46:37
	It's going to be better not say anymore.	00:46:39
	Everybody.	00:46:42
	OK, so anyway.	00:46:45
	But we are in, we are in mediation.	00:46:47
	With that and a bunch of lawyers and PRC.	00:46:50
	You name it. And Donald too, by the way.	00:46:54
	And Don Steinert.	00:46:57
	And Don Stein Stein.	00:46:58
	OK, so that's done. Now the next one is the one that's.	00:47:01
	Designated segregate. County Magistrate Court is having jurisdiction over municipal ordinance.	00:47:04
	I brought that up on the agenda because.	00:47:08
	In the long haul over 10 years.	00:47:11
	The city has lost about $1,000,000.	00:47:14
	With a Municipal Court.	00:47:16
	And I'm not sure whether we made any headway in.	00:47:18
	Cleaning up the city.	00:47:21
	Stopping the dog problem.	00:47:23
	Or other things that are.	00:47:24
	Occurring.	00:47:26
	In your package, you'll also see the city of.	00:47:27
	Tier C and the city of Berlin.	00:47:30
	Has the TRC has accomplished it They.	00:47:32
	Have cancelled their municipal.	00:47:35
	Belen is looking at it.	00:47:38
	There's an article in the In your packet that talks about Berlin.	00:47:40
	They haven't done it. There's not something that's been done.	00:47:43
	But the process and I heard other counselors when we were talking about the raise.	00:47:46
	At the municipal.	00:47:50
	That they asked that well.	00:47:52
	I think Mr. Salome asked.	00:47:54
	What can we look into depth as to what the Municipal Court is?	00:47:57
	Is doing and how it's doing it.	00:48:01
	And then how it's?	00:48:03
	Productive for the city to be.	00:48:05
	And that was funding the Municipal Court.	00:48:07
	And so there is a process that the state legislature has put together.	00:48:11
	But.	00:48:16
	Involves a resolution.	00:48:17
	Where the resolution then?	00:48:19
	Will appoint a committee.	00:48:21
	To evaluate the subject and then we'll come back to the.	00:48:23
	Council to for the approval or disapproval.	00:48:26
	Of their. Of their.	00:48:30
	A solution.	00:48:32
	So I am asking the City Council to.	00:48:35
	Pass This resolution designates Sakura County magazine court.	00:48:38
	As having jurisdiction over municipal ordinances.	00:48:41
	And so that that's why I brought this.	00:48:44
	So.	00:48:47
	If somebody was moving, Seconded.	00:48:50
	Mr. Salami.	00:48:53
	Statement my my point was.	00:48:55
	Bringing up the question that.	00:48:59
	The general fund.	00:49:02
	Is being used to support.	00:49:04
	Municipal Court, OK, so.	00:49:05
	Pulling out of the general fund, the taxpayers fund.	00:49:07
	To support the Municipal Court.	00:49:11
	And so our question as a Council.	00:49:13
	Is is the value that.	00:49:15
	The folks since the coral.	00:49:18
	Are receiving.	00:49:20
	Commensurate with the cost.	00:49:22
	That they're burying.	00:49:24
	The answer to that question may be yes, maybe.	00:49:25
	May be great.	00:49:28
	The answer to that question maybe?	00:49:30
	Well, you know, most of us maybe don't think that's the case. I don't know.	00:49:32
	So, umm.	00:49:36
	That's that's, I think the bottom line question that I that I wanted to pose to.	00:49:37
	To the Council, this is a vehicle to get that done.	00:49:42
	Right, so this.	00:49:46
	This is step one.	00:49:48
	Doesn't mean anything, it just means that we're going to look into it and then we have to follow another procedure.	00:49:51
	To get to their natural ordinance, Is that correct actually?	00:49:56
	3 procedures to talk.	00:49:59
	One procedure is to appoint a committee.	00:50:01
	Second procedure.	00:50:05
	Is to bring their.	00:50:06
	Suggestion back to the Council.	00:50:09
	Have the council vote on it.	00:50:11
	If the Council has 3/4 of the.	00:50:13
	Council voting to affirm what they're.	00:50:15
	Recommend.	00:50:18
	Then it still has to go to District Court.	00:50:19
	For the judge to approve it.	00:50:22
	It will not be. It will not be in.	00:50:24
	We can't do that unless they approve it.	00:50:27
	Yes, Sir, it's the Supreme Court that has to approve it. Supreme Court.	00:50:30
	Yes, Sir. So they have to approve it. So it's not.	00:50:33
	It's these steps that you have to take.	00:50:36
	But my but but no go ahead.	00:50:39
	Is the timing I mean Will it work because I mean?	00:50:42
	This is an election year, so everybody's going to be.	00:50:45
	Yeah, well.	00:50:49
	Other than that, you have to wait another four years.	00:50:51
	And my turn will be over.	00:50:53
	Mr. Mayor, Mr.	00:50:55
	Sister asked for Mr. Dean.	00:50:57
	The reason I brought it up is that we are under stress on the budget.	00:50:59
	When it comes to code enforcement.	00:51:03
	And and Police Department.	00:51:05
	The and I've talked to our chief.	00:51:07
	Of police chief We've got to cut down overtime.	00:51:11
	And I am looking.	00:51:14
	At things that.	00:51:15
	Not small things, big things.	00:51:17
	That would help our budget.	00:51:19
	That we could divert to more.	00:51:21
	Effective controls and as I said.	00:51:23
	In the time that I've been mayor.	00:51:26
	And different municipal judges.	00:51:28
	I just haven't seen the things that I've wanted to see.	00:51:31
	As far as people cleaning up their lots.	00:51:34
	Holding their dogs at a balance. It's not that we're not.	00:51:37
	Enforcing it.	00:51:40
	We're just not getting anybody to, really.	00:51:42
	Follow through.	00:51:44
	With, in my opinion, the judge.	00:51:45
	What they've been filed against, and that's what I want the committee to look at.	00:51:48
	Let me just finish. Hey judge, this is my, this is.	00:51:52
	This is my.	00:51:55
	Venue If you want to interrupt, please come up to the dais and take your turn.	00:51:57
	And finish.	00:52:01
	I know it's hitting you hard in your pocketbook, but don't be talking out of.	00:52:03
	Turn and I'm sure you've said the same thing to me.	00:52:07
	If I was in your court.	00:52:10
	Mr. Mayor, let me finish with Mr. Dean. I think you had a comment about what I said.	00:52:12
	Well, my other concern is what happens to the employee.	00:52:16
	One. But what happens to her if?	00:52:21
	It would be dissolved.	00:52:23
	Is she not currently a city employee?	00:52:25
	Cheers, but Donald has a better answer.	00:52:28
	Yes. And what TRC did was they offered the employees from the Municipal Court.	00:52:31
	Positions and in different departments and I thought that was a fairway to react.	00:52:36
	But to.	00:52:41
	Answer your question a little bit more.	00:52:42
	So if the resolution is adopted tonight.	00:52:44
	We have 15 days.	00:52:47
	To set up a committee that's prescribed.	00:52:49
	The law.	00:52:54
	It would be the mayor.	00:52:54
	The counselor. The municipal judge.	00:52:56
	The police chief and three members.	00:52:58
	Of the public chosen by the mayor, the councillor and the judge.	00:53:00
	And then they.	00:53:04
	Organized to have a meeting if we don't get all this done by December 31st.	00:53:05
	Whoever's elected a judge still has four years.	00:53:10
	But then you could.	00:53:13
	You could still do it in four years. You just.	00:53:14
	Starting the process now? Sure.	00:53:17
	But but Donald, just to clarify.	00:53:18
	Here's he did it a year before.	00:53:20
	Yes, the judge had a year and a half left on her time.	00:53:23
	Yeah, just Rogan.	00:53:26
	Mr. Mayor so.	00:53:28
	Why? Why do we need a resolution?	00:53:29
	To go over all the stuff that.	00:53:32
	All the questions that Councillor Sloan we asked, why can't there just be?	00:53:34
	Why can't the mayor and the councillor people meet with the judge?	00:53:37
	And figure out what the deficiencies are and how to solve them. And if you can't get past that?	00:53:41
	Then move forward with resolution. I just don't understand why we have to have a resolution.	00:53:46
	Go through this whole process when we can.	00:53:51
	You just set up your own little.	00:53:53
	Committee and talk about this kind of stuff.	00:53:55
	Before this.	00:53:57
	As I made it clear before.	00:54:00
	I can't say anything about.	00:54:02
	The court. The court is the court.	00:54:04
	This is my only vehicle to look inside the court.	00:54:07
	To see if it's being functional.	00:54:10
	And the state has provided the vehicle. The resolution gives you permission to look at their books.	00:54:12
	You can't look at their books right now.	00:54:20
	I can't really interfere with his court.	00:54:22
	But if you ask them, can you give you the information?	00:54:24
	You know, I think that.	00:54:28
	That's possible, but I'm just saying.	00:54:30
	I just don't see why we need to do a resolution when you can just talk to him.	00:54:32
	And get this squared away without having to go through this whole process.	00:54:36
	Dissolve a position that's elected.	00:54:39
	And who knows that the next judges can do they can do a better job at.	00:54:42
	That defines if you feel that.	00:54:46
	Judge Gutierrez, if he does get elected, that he's not.	00:54:49
	Enacting the finds that they that there should be. I just don't see the reason why.	00:54:52
	Communication can be had before.	00:54:57
	Having to go through all this trouble and.	00:54:59
	And time crunch and.	00:55:01
	When it could be very easily solved.	00:55:03
	MI Mr. Mayor.	00:55:06
	Just before we move on to Michelle's Lopez Oh Mr.	00:55:08
	Just before we move on.	00:55:10
	The steps prescribed.	00:55:12
	Or written in state statute.	00:55:13
	I get that, but I just don't understand why we have to do a resolution when you can talk to them first.	00:55:15
	And do it.	00:55:19
	Informally.	00:55:21
	I just.	00:55:24
	Because to me it sounds like we're doing this resolution with the intent.	00:55:26
	Of getting it done before the end of the year.	00:55:29
	Well, it's it's August, but.	00:55:33
	I'm not talking about this judge. I've had other judges. Mr.	00:55:35
	Judge Trujillo.	00:55:38
	But I just find it ironic that we're doing it right now.	00:55:39
	When it was when it was an issue for a race for the judge.	00:55:42
	And then now all of a sudden.	00:55:46
	You get my raise. I'm not I'm not understand that, but there was.	00:55:48
	For the last how many times we brought this up in 36 years as American?	00:55:52
	I think you're making a little. I think Mr. Monett is right.	00:55:55
	We're trying to get a vehicle that would have some.	00:55:59
	Some weight and what we're doing.	00:56:01
	And rather, if you want to do informal stuff, I'll make you the appointment. You can talk to the judge.	00:56:03
	Your friends, you can do whatever you want. I'm talking about.	00:56:07
	A committee.	00:56:10
	That would have some import.	00:56:11
	Into what we've accomplished rather than doing an informal thing. So formal committee without a resolution can afford $1,000,000.	00:56:13
	Deficit and 1:00 and we could afford $2,000,000 in electricity.	00:56:21
	Costs and we can afford upwards of $2,000,000 that we paid for.	00:56:24
	On the electricity.	00:56:30
	And costs and internal fees and all that.	00:56:32
	I think you're confusing your attack on me.	00:56:34
	I'm talking you, I'm just giving information.	00:56:36
	Facts we have not spent $2,000,000 on.	00:56:40
	One of the facts that we've lost $1,000,000 for the floor.	00:56:44
	Well, we want to do that if you want to talk on the subject.	00:56:48
	I'll be more than happy to talk about it.	00:56:51
	I've given you the facts on the judge.	00:56:54
	For the past.	00:56:56
	10 years.	00:56:57
	We've gone into hold $1,000,000.	00:56:58
	That money could be used for other things as far as enforcement.	00:57:01
	And cleaning up the city is concerned.	00:57:05
	That's my opinion.	00:57:07
	If you think you want to do an informal committee, that's if nobody wants to pass this resolution.	00:57:09
	That's fine by me.	00:57:15
	Just like you passed his raise.	00:57:16
	You know, that's fine with me too.	00:57:18
	Judge, you have a comment, you're welcome to come up and.	00:57:20
	Talk about it.	00:57:23
	Whatever is brought before the court.	00:57:33
	So if you want to.	00:57:36
	Have an informal media.	00:57:36
	Probably better because I can give you more information.	00:57:38
	I'm going to give you.	00:57:41
	One thing the code enforcement officer.	00:57:43
	In the last eight months, has only cited.	00:57:46
	For citations and we can go on.	00:57:48
	I can give you more information.	00:57:51
	You can't blame the court.	00:57:53
	For not raising money for the city.	00:57:55
	I'm here to be as fair as possible.	00:57:57
	For the citizens of Socorro.	00:57:59
	And.	00:58:02
	To be able to pass a judgment.	00:58:03
	What is bought before me before the court?	00:58:05
	So there's a process.	00:58:08
	On how the court works.	00:58:11
	If, for example, if a court enforcement officer.	00:58:13
	Sites into my court.	00:58:16
	We go through the process, we do the arraignment.	00:58:19
	If it's a trial, we do the trial.	00:58:21
	But The thing is, is.	00:58:24
	If I give them 30.	00:58:26
	For 30 days.	00:58:27
	To clean up the process or the property or remove the vehicles.	00:58:29
	I can grant them 30 days.	00:58:34
	But it's upon the code enforcement officer, the city officers, the animal control officers.	00:58:36
	To come and find what the disposition is.	00:58:42
	On each case.	00:58:44
	It's not the judges or the.	00:58:46
	Obligation to.	00:58:49
	Called the court enforcement officer to say hey by the way.	00:58:50
	We passed this on this particular property.	00:58:53
	And if you want to.	00:58:56
	This individual.	00:58:58
	Has paid the fine.	00:59:00
	So now you can.	00:59:01
	Cite him a second time.	00:59:02
	Because.	00:59:04
	By your own words from the last City Council meeting.	00:59:05
	You don't want to arrest anybody with a minimum warrant because you don't want to pay the detention center.	00:59:08
	There's lots of municipal warrants out there.	00:59:13
	Whether the the police chief and.	00:59:16
	The officers enforce it is another story.	00:59:19
	So that's all I said.	00:59:22
	Well, I want to comment on this is that it is not personal judge.	00:59:25
	Berlin is thinking about.	00:59:28
	Tears. He's thinking about it. Other little towns have thought about it.	00:59:30
	So the stadium and actually.	00:59:33
	Made a vehicle for that to happen. So there were other complaints about it. It's not a matter of the city wanting you to raise	00:59:35
	funds for this.	00:59:39
	I'm not even.	00:59:42
	Not at all.	00:59:44
	Trying to get you to do that. All I'm saying is.	00:59:45
	Small cities.	00:59:48
	At this point are having trouble.	00:59:49
	Supporting.	00:59:51
	A municipal judge when you have a magistrate and a District Judge.	00:59:53
	And I'm just telling the council.	00:59:56
	That that's the reason we need to.	00:59:58
	See if this is a.	00:59:59
	The way we want to continue going or we want to continue.	01:00:01
	Not, uh.	01:00:05
	Spending the kind of money that we're doing, it's not because.	01:00:07
	As Mr. O'ginn has characterized.	01:00:10
	Something that I'm doing against the judge.	01:00:12
	And I just do things as they come up in my administrative tasks.	01:00:14
	If it happens to be August.	01:00:18
	And we're going to do it by December.	01:00:20
	That's what came up.	01:00:22
	Mr. Patterson, as Donald said, by state statute.	01:00:24
	Each Municipal Court around the state is done by.	01:00:28
	Populations.	01:00:32
	So tier C.	01:00:33
	Was different from.	01:00:35
	Socorro or Blend because tyranny was ahead of the population of under 25.	01:00:37
	People and if you look at the state statute.	01:00:42
	There's a depends on.	01:00:45
	Population of the city.	01:00:47
	And how you can follow.	01:00:49
	Your process that you.	01:00:52
	You're seeing that 7200, just to let you know.	01:00:53
	Well, the population. I have known that for a fact.	01:00:56
	But but.	01:00:59
	The the state statute says.	01:01:00
	Cities under 10,000.	01:01:01
	Well, when I talked to the Tripsy judge, he told.	01:01:03
	You know, but anyway that that's my.	01:01:07
	My Mr. Romero.	01:01:09
	If we were.	01:01:14
	You know, could go by and you know by this study or whatever.	01:01:15
	The finance and.	01:01:18
	I would just be curious as to what.	01:01:21
	The county.	01:01:22
	Would be consciousness.	01:01:24
	If the magistrate took it over.	01:01:27
	I don't be a lot cheaper.	01:01:30
	Maybe not.	01:01:32
	Well, I mean, this magistrate is no cost to us.	01:01:34
	But if but if we were standing.	01:01:38
	I mean, the Supreme Court would have well.	01:01:41
	As, as the judge has said, he's only had four cases filed on the.	01:01:43
	I mean, how many more cases are there going to be?	01:01:47
	And I'm not going to get into personal cases. I'm just telling you.	01:01:49
	That, in my opinion, in the past 30 years.	01:01:53
	We have not made any headway in trying to clean anybody up.	01:01:55
	And or get the dogs under control.	01:01:58
	And I can only tell you that the.	01:02:01
	The dogs that are sighted.	01:02:03
	Are back on the owners in the owners yard.	01:02:04
	And causing more trouble.	01:02:07
	And and I'd rather have the magistrate deal with that rather than the Municipal Court.	01:02:09
	That the city is funding.	01:02:13
	I'd rather have the.	01:02:14
	Money directed towards the police enforcement.	01:02:16
	And the code enforcement at $100,000.	01:02:18
	So that made a tough decision.	01:02:21
	As a tough decision for people who are gonna.	01:02:24
	Be running for office here pretty soon.	01:02:26
	But I brought it up. That's the way it goes.	01:02:29
	You know, I'm bringing up stuff that's difficult, Mister man.	01:02:31
	Well, a question for.	01:02:35
	Umm, you said that the committee would be formed with.	01:02:37
	Can you? Can you repeat to me that again?	01:02:40
	Please. It's the mayor, the judge, the chief of police, a counselor and three members of the public.	01:02:42
	And which judge?	01:02:48
	Is it the judges supposed to OK?	01:02:49
	OK. So he would be involved in the process?	01:02:51
	Yes.	01:02:53
	In the.	01:02:55
	And that's, you know, as Mr. Again pointed out, could be done unofficially.	01:02:57
	But doing it unofficially, I just think it's.	01:03:00
	It has more import when you do it officially.	01:03:04
	As to what we're doing.	01:03:06
	And then you know if the motion dies it.	01:03:07
	I'm just brought it up and that's all I can tell.	01:03:10
	Senator Shalom, is the Municipal Court charge a court fee or had they?	01:03:16
	Had as the court overcharged the court fee too.	01:03:21
	In July 1st, there's no longer.	01:03:25
	You guys passed that?	01:03:29
	Woman.	01:03:33
	They didn't find that he put out actually.	01:03:35
	They no longer.	01:03:39
	Is there is a motion to accept this?	01:03:44
	Resolution.	01:03:47
	If we don't look at it.	01:03:50
	This way, what's to guarantee we're going to look at it?	01:03:51
	In another way and come.	01:03:55
	To a decision.	01:03:57
	And.	01:04:00
	It's from fact, maybe having some of us visit the court.	01:04:01
	Go see a couple of.	01:04:05
	Court cases.	01:04:07
	In his court.	01:04:10
	See how it works.	01:04:11
	I've never been in there.	01:04:13
	I'd like to go in there and see what happens.	01:04:14
	And, and, and maybe as we get through this, we come out of it.	01:04:16
	Saying you know what?	01:04:21
	Yeah, it's costing.	01:04:22
	The taxpayer X amount of dollars. But you know what?	01:04:24
	It's a. It's a value to.	01:04:27
	The residents of Socorro.	01:04:29
	We think it's valuable enough.	01:04:31
	To keep it going.	01:04:34
	And I don't think we can make that decision if we don't go.	01:04:36
	In there and see what's going on, Mister man.	01:04:40
	But, but I mean just to ask you a question.	01:04:42
	Then you then what? Are you going to propose that we then have this resolution passed?	01:04:45
	If you think it's.	01:04:49
	It's not worthwhile.	01:04:50
	Oh no, I'm thinking if we don't pass this resolution, how will we accomplish?	01:04:52
	His office and ask him simple, do you need a resolution to go talk to the judge?	01:04:59
	And find out information.	01:05:04
	I just don't understand why the resolution needs to be made when you can walk in his door you said you haven't seen there does.	01:05:06
	Now that we have a resolution, it's gonna be you're gonna be like, oh, now I'm gonna go look because there's a resolution, yeah.	01:05:11
	Exactly. You don't want to do it without a resolution.	01:05:16
	I haven't been, I haven't gone into the court, so you need a resolution to do it.	01:05:19
	Oh, it sure would. It's.	01:05:22
	I'm saying that.	01:05:24
	The funds that are available to support the city.	01:05:26
	Those those core fee funds.	01:05:29
	They're no longer available.	01:05:31
	So the state.	01:05:33
	Made-up said. You know what?	01:05:34
	These courts.	01:05:36
	Aren't making any money anymore.	01:05:37
	So, uh.	01:05:39
	What we need to do is we need a way to.	01:05:39
	Taking the burden off the city.	01:05:42
	And and taking it to the Magistrate Court.	01:05:43
	And we don't.	01:05:46
	And another thing is we don't want.	01:05:47
	The.	01:05:49
	Paying for government activity, so.	01:05:51
	No more court fees, so that would reduce.	01:05:53
	The funding that was available to.	01:05:56
	Municipal courts. So when they did that.	01:06:00
	Then they said, well, if we do that.	01:06:03
	Then we need to do this.	01:06:05
	We need to put a vehicle in place.	01:06:07
	That lets a city.	01:06:09
	Evaluate their Municipal Court to make a.	01:06:12
	Formed decision about whether to continue it and to see if it's worth the taxpayers money to keep it going.	01:06:15
	That's it. We keep the the.	01:06:22
	Like I used the example last time, we keep the.	01:06:25
	The the swimming pool going.	01:06:28
	It loses money.	01:06:29
	But there's a value to the to our residents and people around here.	01:06:31
	And we think the value is worth more than the loss that we're experiencing.	01:06:35
	Is that the same with the municipal?	01:06:39
	Court, I don't, I haven't looked at it deep enough and I think, you know, going in there.	01:06:41
	Will help but.	01:06:45
	Maybe this is exactly the process that needs to take place so we can get those.	01:06:47
	That information to us so we can make an informed decision to have a committee come up to us and say, you know what?	01:06:52
	It's valuable to the city of Socorro.	01:06:58
	To have a Municipal Court.	01:07:00
	That's what our committee came up with, and our committee is made-up of the mayor and his.	01:07:02
	The council and the judge and.	01:07:06
	Somebody else and.	01:07:09
	It's a system.	01:07:10
	So who's gonna argue with that?	01:07:12
	But but I'm still.	01:07:15
	Saying that.	01:07:16
	The procedure is that the judge.	01:07:19
	And the city administration.	01:07:21
	And the Council are two separate bodies.	01:07:23
	And to go into his.	01:07:26
	Office, uh.	01:07:27
	In my opinion, is not the right thing to do without some sort of a.	01:07:28
	Document.	01:07:32
	There's a separate. There's a separation.	01:07:35
	It's the executive branch. There's three branches, Mr. Ogle, and I don't know if you knew that, but I think.	01:07:37
	I slept that day.	01:07:44
	Social studies feature.	01:07:46
	Judge.	01:07:47
	Mr. Parker, I was there.	01:07:54
	In court quite a bit before SO.	01:07:57
	But the question is for me is.	01:08:00
	You brought it up, Mayor, is that?	01:08:04
	Is there some?	01:08:05
	This the legalities of.	01:08:07
	The informality. I understand what Mike saying.	01:08:09
	Council of the informality of it is.	01:08:12
	The legal implications Are you worried of legal implications about how?	01:08:16
	Questioning the judge and how he runs his courtroom and.	01:08:20
	Those kind of issues.	01:08:23
	Can become a legal issue for us is what it sounds like your concern is.	01:08:25
	Have my question.	01:08:29
	Outside of that is, has that ever been done in the past where we've had some?	01:08:31
	Formal meeting with the courts to go over things, but I realized the separation of government.	01:08:35
	I appointed judge cases.	01:08:43
	And after she was appointed.	01:08:45
	I have never.	01:08:47
	Gone and try to interfere with her.	01:08:48
	This is my only vehicle.	01:08:51
	And what's the? So we'll say this is passed and then what's the?	01:08:54
	And say the committee's formed.	01:08:58
	And they said no. This is a great benefit to the second. I think we leave it in place.	01:09:00
	That would be great. I'm looking for that answer. That's great.	01:09:04
	What's wrong with that?	01:09:08
	I mean, if Mr. O'ginn is worried that it's going to come back negative.	01:09:10
	Then I can understand his worry, but.	01:09:13
	Whatever comes back that hey, you know, I'm not worried about that. I'm just it doesn't make sense to have a.	01:09:16
	Have an ordinance to form a committee when we form committees all the time.	01:09:20
	Without resolutions.	01:09:24
	This is a resolution on ordinance. I didn't say. I said I'm that resolution. I'm sorry.	01:09:26
	But but the bottom line is it's a way.	01:09:30
	To do a job. I mean if you want to do everything informally.	01:09:33
	I just don't think it has the, like I said, the import of.	01:09:37
	Of having a committee.	01:09:40
	That includes the judge.	01:09:41
	And here's the point.	01:09:44
	And his their employee, yeah.	01:09:46
	Yeah, so so again.	01:09:48
	We don't have to do it.	01:09:49
	If it's too much work.	01:09:51
	We can go to visit his court, look at his caseload.	01:09:52
	Look at how he makes his judgments.	01:09:55
	But I don't feel comfortable in doing that.	01:09:57
	I don't feel comfortable in telling the judge.	01:10:00
	This is what you should be doing when you.	01:10:02
	See one of these uh.	01:10:04
	People that we cited, that's not my job.	01:10:06
	Long winded.	01:10:11
	What kind of?	01:10:13
	What kind of information can we the committee, if this is possible, kind of information can the committee extract from?	01:10:15
	The judge Are they able to?	01:10:21
	The book.	01:10:23
	The number is the caseload. Again, I'm not sure that.	01:10:24
	Not addressed, but I would think.	01:10:28
	If I would think I'll live with public information, but maybe some of it needs to be redacted.	01:10:30
	But.	01:10:35
	Through Ruby Week.	01:10:36
	We have the budget information.	01:10:37
	The judge sent us.	01:10:39
	Caseload.	01:10:41
	Counts about a month ago, so.	01:10:42
	I don't know what else you'd want to look at.	01:10:45
	Sure. No, I just, I guess that.	01:10:47
	But I think, I think you have to talk to the public.	01:10:49
	And say to them.	01:10:52
	Do you feel comfortable in having a magistrate decides to the ordinances?	01:10:53
	I mean, that's one of the things you want to ask.	01:10:57
	And you know, you know the other side of it, is what I'm saying.	01:10:59
	If you had any experiences with anybody.	01:11:02
	Who did? Who did make a?	01:11:06
	Complaint, and then that complaint was acted upon at the judges, and that the person who the complaint was against.	01:11:08
	Got to do.	01:11:14
	Whatever they wanted to and then had to be brought back to court.	01:11:16
	And who?	01:11:19
	And.	01:11:20
	A job is that my code enforcement officer or is it the court has to watch and see if they actually acted on the?	01:11:22
	Judges orders? I don't know that.	01:11:28
	And those are the questions I have.	01:11:31
	And, Mr. Mayor, the committee is required to have at least one public hearing.	01:11:33
	And have a public. I'm just saying those are the things that.	01:11:37
	Need to come out and I feel very uncomfortable.	01:11:41
	And asking any judge.	01:11:43
	About how they're making their.	01:11:45
	Their decisions. That's not my job. My job is this.	01:11:47
	As mayor of my job.	01:11:51
	And the state has given me that ability to do that.	01:11:53
	If the council agrees, if they don't agree, then I can't do that.	01:11:55
	And how long has?	01:11:58
	Been enacted.	01:12:00
	Here's an event.	01:12:02
	This statute, I'll have to look it up.	01:12:04
	It's within the five years, it's not.	01:12:07
	It's not something old.	01:12:09
	So what did we do? Why did we choose? Why are we choosing to do it now?	01:12:11
	Why am I going to worry about that? Guys paved the history. I mean, it came up. I'm just saying that it came up now.	01:12:18
	Because I just felt.	01:12:25
	That given the.	01:12:27
	The judges salary being raised.	01:12:28
	That it would be important for the city to look and see how that money is being spent.	01:12:31
	The council and you're one of the counselors that may give the.	01:12:36
	The judge of the race.	01:12:40
	Did you ask him any of these questions about?	01:12:42
	How effective is the court?	01:12:44
	I'd like to see that in writing.	01:12:47
	I'd like to see that in our committee.	01:12:49
	And I, you know, and like I said, I cannot go into his court.	01:12:52
	And start.	01:12:55
	Asking, well how come you made that decision I need to make?	01:12:56
	I'm not.	01:12:59
	This is the shop.	01:13:00
	Part of our.	01:13:02
	Our government.	01:13:03
	So we can ask those questions for the committee. If we have a resolution, we're allowed to ask those questions. I'm gonna have to	01:13:04
	find out.	01:13:07
	I don't know for sure.	01:13:10
	I don't know for sure.	01:13:11
	But it gives me a little more.	01:13:12
	Import to be able to ask those questions.	01:13:15
	How do you know you can ask him?	01:13:17
	How do you know you'll be able to ask him if?	01:13:19
	If this does pass.	01:13:22
	Well, you know, how do I know I can do anything if I don't have this thing passed?	01:13:24
	Is it the chicken or the egg type of if the Council?	01:13:28
	You know, everybody is talking about it. If they want don't want to do this, fine with me. I'm just bringing it up.	01:13:31
	And the judge is part of the committee, so he would be present to answer questions that.	01:13:36
	The community might ask, but it's because we have this committee formed because of the state allowed us to do that.	01:13:41
	You know.	01:13:49
	That's all I'm saying.	01:13:50
	Anyway, do you have a motion to accept this resolution?	01:13:54
	Make a motion.	01:13:58
	I'll second, Mr. Mayor.	01:14:00
	So moved and 2nd.	01:14:02
	We get a. Can we get a roll call?	01:14:04
	Yes.	01:14:12
	Yes.	01:14:15
	Cancer Clinic.	01:14:17
	Nazo Campo.	01:14:19
	Counseling, No.	01:14:23
	Councillor Partridge.	01:14:25
	Councillor Romero.	01:14:28
	Yes.	01:14:30
	So what what, Donald? What is the makeup of that committee?	01:14:33
	It is the mayor, the judge, the chief of police, one counselor.	01:14:37
	And three members of the public.	01:14:41
	One of which is picked by the mayor, one is picked by the judge and one is picked by the counselor.	01:14:42
	So, so we have 15 days to get the committee form.	01:14:47
	I mean, I can get the Bob rolling.	01:14:51
	If we want, if Mr. Again, you want to be on that committee.	01:14:53
	I'll be more than happy to.	01:14:56
	You know, appoint you as a council member.	01:14:58
	Unless some other counselor because.	01:15:00
	I mean, that's up to you. If not, I can appoint Mr. Salome or?	01:15:02
	Either way, I mean, I make sure that we.	01:15:06
	I have some sort of a.	01:15:09
	Reconciliation on it.	01:15:12
	So it's up to you if you think about it or.	01:15:14
	OK, you will. OK, so I'll make myself.	01:15:16
	City Council representative.	01:15:20
	And could I get nominations?	01:15:24
	By the end of the week.	01:15:27
	Preferably so we can.	01:15:28
	The one from the mayor.	01:15:30
	The one from the judge.	01:15:31
	No one from cancer again.	01:15:33
	Get that put together.	01:15:36
	OK. And I'm sorry about the.	01:15:38
	The long within us.	01:15:41
	I think we have another.	01:15:44
	Participation. OK, this is a nice one.	01:15:46
	Participation, Linda.	01:15:48
	Program Ruby. That's the.	01:15:49
	Mayor, Council. So the city was awarded $125,000. This is our beautification. I have AQA tomorrow so I don't really know exactly.	01:16:01
	What is going to?	01:16:10
	Entail until we ask questions and they go over it tomorrow. But it has to do with recycling.	01:16:12
	So I've been talking with Mike and with Marcella. We're going to see what we can actually put out there for recycling and.	01:16:16
	See if maybe we can purchase a vehicle or see what we can get out of that money, but I'll make sure that we spend $125,000.	01:16:24
	Right now we're doing cardboard.	01:16:30
	Right now it's cardboard and we want to bring back.	01:16:33
	Paper. We're trying to bring back paper.	01:16:35
	Like on Saturdays and then?	01:16:38
	Linda had a program at the Senior Center to where?	01:16:40
	The mayor funded to clean some senior yards, so we're seeing maybe we can.	01:16:44
	Maybe put that in there with?	01:16:48
	I'll ask tomorrow.	01:16:50
	And see because it is private property and see if they'll cover.	01:16:51
	You know, cleaning some stuff around the city.	01:16:54
	You know so.	01:16:57
	I'll know more information next meeting.	01:16:58
	But it's $125,000.	01:17:00
	What about utilizing our lot?	01:17:04
	The Stands Motel lot.	01:17:05
	You gotta get bigger or something.	01:17:08
	Yeah, yeah.	01:17:11
	Mr. Again.	01:17:13
	Make a motion to pass resolution #2508-19C.	01:17:14
	A second I'm moving, a second all in favor.	01:17:18
	Aye.	01:17:20
	Airport hangar. Hello.	01:17:26
	Yes, Sir, we we actually went out.	01:17:30
	Forbid on this on April 17th.	01:17:32
	And we had 7.	01:17:36
	But with the number of protests and everything, it was.	01:17:38
	Probably the city's best interest that we.	01:17:41
	We threw the mall out and we went.	01:17:45
	Out for negotiations and we talked with Richardson and Richardson, they're a member of the cooperative.	01:17:48
	Educational Services CES.	01:17:56
	And they had a bid of 1,000,000, one 56402.	01:17:58
	And actually with taxes and everything, that probably.	01:18:03
	$50,000 cheaper than our lowest bidder when we did went through the bid process so.	01:18:06
	So I paid for.	01:18:12
	It's with the.	01:18:14
	Grant 100%.	01:18:17
	Yes. And and that comes within the the budgeted amount of 1.2 million, so.	01:18:19
	Make a motion to pass the board.	01:18:26
	Now second I moved a second all in favor.	01:18:28
	Aye, OK. Home occupation BNF Smith Enterprises.	01:18:32
	Christie, she'll make a presentation 1st and then we'll.	01:18:36
	We'll discuss it like we have been discussing.	01:18:40
	Thank you.	01:18:48
	Hello, Mayor and Council.	01:19:09
	So, umm.	01:19:12
	BNF Smith Enterprises filled out a home occupation permit.	01:19:13
	Or, uh.	01:19:18
	The RV.	01:19:20
	Rental.	01:19:21
	And what it is, is they want to place their RV on the Outdoorsy app.	01:19:22
	Which is an app that coordinates people who have our visa with people who don't but would like to rent them.	01:19:26
	For a weekend for a.	01:19:33
	Um, so um.	01:19:36
	Mr. and Mrs. Smith have an RV.	01:19:39
	They want to participate in that where?	01:19:42
	They are able to be found on the app.	01:19:46
	And it's kind of like an RV.	01:19:50
	It's not camping at their house.	01:19:54
	If I would, I would just say if I was interested.	01:19:57
	Then I would take my truck.	01:20:00
	To their health or a meeting spot. It could be a Walmart parking lot. It could be anywhere.	01:20:03
	And they would.	01:20:08
	I would connect it to my truck, I would go camping with my family, come back and I would either deliver it back to.	01:20:10
	The pickup spot or their residence? I don't I'm not exactly sure how that business model, but.	01:20:16
	It is when in front of planning and zoning the meeting did get a little.	01:20:23
	Contentious, therefore they did not.	01:20:29
	Make a decision.	01:20:32
	I had.	01:20:34
	2 Running and zoning.	01:20:35
	Commissioners present and one that voted by proxy.	01:20:38
	But being that he wasn't here to hear the concerns, they did not vote on it, so it did not come to you with a recommendation.	01:20:41
	It was.	01:20:50
	Not going to be voted on that day, I'll tell you that.	01:20:51
	We we have somebody to speak on behalf of the.	01:20:55
	So this is Francesca and her husband.	01:20:58
	Don't remember his name? Brandon.	01:21:01
	And they're the ones who want to present their business model.	01:21:03
	So like she was saying, we have one RV.	01:21:09
	That we would like to rent out.	01:21:13
	And you know as on an app, we have it on 2 apps, one called Outdoorsy and the other one is called RV Share.	01:21:15
	It's 100% insured.	01:21:23
	Through ourselves and then also the app provides insurance.	01:21:27
	It is not parked on the street. We have a side yard.	01:21:31
	That the trailer.	01:21:34
	Is parked on on our property.	01:21:36
	And like she said, we can do delivery, so if they want to go to Elephant Butte for the weekend or Escondido Lake.	01:21:38
	You know, we can deliver it for them.	01:21:45
	If they want to pick it up.	01:21:47
	You know at our residents or you know if there's a meeting spot.	01:21:49
	You know, closer to them.	01:21:52
	That we can also do that.	01:21:55
	And so we're not planning at this time to get anymore.	01:21:56
	RV's we just have the one we just want to.	01:22:01
	Try to have a small.	01:22:03
	Side business for ourselves.	01:22:05
	Is it motorized?	01:22:08
	No. So it's a travel trailer.	01:22:10
	To travel trailer.	01:22:11
	And you keep it on your property right now.	01:22:13
	Yes.	01:22:15
	And it's on our side yard. It's not on the street, it's not.	01:22:15
	And Christie, there's no violation of them keeping that up.	01:22:18
	And I believe that Overlooking Act does offer $1,000,000.	01:22:27
	Coverage being that they're signed up with the outdoors, yeah, so if there were any damage to.	01:22:30
	Let's say.	01:22:36
	Yeah, if there's any damage to the customers vehicle or to our.	01:22:38
	Travel trailer.	01:22:44
	That they are covered through the insurance.	01:22:45
	Mr. Fleming.	01:22:49
	10/06.	01:22:53
	Is located where?	01:22:55
	10066.	01:22:58
	So I'm 1102 Leroy.	01:23:02
	What was the address?	01:23:07
	This letter just supported. It's not.	01:23:13
	So that's on the other street.	01:23:15
	From us, behind us, yeah.	01:23:17
	The insurance coverage is for.	01:23:19
	Or there what about damage to the city?	01:23:24
	Property.	01:23:28
	I don't know the it's not covered.	01:23:31
	You may want to check that.	01:23:36
	OK.	01:23:39
	It's basically.	01:23:43
	I've looked into this thing before. So you store your RV?	01:23:45
	Somebody can come pick it up from your residency.	01:23:49
	They can leave with them.	01:23:51
	Bring it back, park it there, right, But you're not going to actually have.	01:23:53
	Transient residents.	01:23:56
	Stay on our property.	01:24:01
	We're not letting people.	01:24:03
	You know, it's not like a hotel motel.	01:24:06
	There B&B situation, it's where they pick it up, they go camping.	01:24:09
	And then they bring it back.	01:24:15
	So no one will be staying.	01:24:16
	On our property.	01:24:18
	Question for.	01:24:20
	Christie is is the.	01:24:22
	Permit Is it written for just one RV at this?	01:24:24
	And what it is, is that it's because their office would be out of their residence. That's why it requires the home occupation.	01:24:32
	CS GO.	01:24:40
	But but but but I mean the point of.	01:24:43
	Council.	01:24:45
	If this is super successful, are you going to acquire more RV's?	01:24:47
	Well, we haven't.	01:24:51
	Done anything yet?	01:24:52
	Is that limited in your?	01:24:54
	And your permit, that's a transaction.	01:24:58
	If anything changes with the scope.	01:25:00
	Of what is presented.	01:25:03
	Just one.	01:25:05
	Which is she's presenting one RV.	01:25:06
	She would have to come apply for another.	01:25:08
	Or a change so it's not something she can grow with.	01:25:12
	Out telling us.	01:25:16
	So what she's presenting is 1.	01:25:18
	That's what what we what would be considered as one.	01:25:23
	That's not fair.	01:25:27
	On the.	01:25:30
	Permit application and asked if neighbors have been contacted.	01:25:32
	It says no, but I think we probably did contact people, but what's a requirement?	01:25:35
	Requesting.	01:25:49
	100 feet from.	01:25:50
	Her property.	01:25:51
	So they were notified for.	01:25:53
	The planning and zoning meeting, yes.	01:25:55
	I think there was, I don't remember the exam. I think it was 11.	01:26:00
	Residences were notified.	01:26:04
	Thank you.	01:26:06
	Mr. Mr. Again make a motion to pass the home occupation permit. OK.	01:26:07
	No, because I'll ask for the opposition.	01:26:14
	Yeah, go ahead.	01:26:16
	Make the motion to approve it and 2nd and you can still discuss.	01:26:18
	Let's move to 2nd of discussion. We have opposition to this.	01:26:21
	For this request.	01:26:24
	Can we let them?	01:26:25
	Mr. Mayor and.	01:26:35
	Questioners, our concerns are if there's going to be more than one.	01:26:37
	One, we can. We can live with that.	01:26:41
	The other concern is the traffic.	01:26:45
	I like the idea of it being picked up somewhere else.	01:26:48
	Because we have children that play on the street.	01:26:52
	I was before the Commissioner and you were.	01:26:55
	And you had approved a speed bump because we had.	01:26:59
	Cars crashing into our property.	01:27:04
	Or off the side of the property.	01:27:07
	The speed bump was removed.	01:27:10
	Traffic. We get traffic through their speeders.	01:27:13
	And concerns being we have little ones and then my husband that likes to go through the neighborhood. Mr. Fleming has seen seen	01:27:16
	him.	01:27:21
	And sometimes I will have to.	01:27:26
	Shout out at him if I'm outside.	01:27:28
	There's a car coming and it's coming fast, so move.	01:27:33
	Move. And so those are the concerns that we have for the neighborhood.	01:27:36
	The one most important one being.	01:27:42
	One we have no problem with. If you're going to be doing 3, you need to move it somewhere else.	01:27:46
	And it has if it has to come before.	01:27:51
	The Commissioners.	01:27:54
	You know if they want more than one for rental.	01:27:56
	We want to stipulate that in the.	01:28:01
	Request.	01:28:03
	But you're OK with the one?	01:28:05
	We're OK with the one.	01:28:07
	If it's maybe.	01:28:08
	Picked up somewhere else other than the house because.	01:28:10
	Two weeks ago, somebody.	01:28:14
	Picked it up or whatever.	01:28:16
	And he went around the block 3 or 4 times and it got dark on him reversing it in.	01:28:18
	If somebody had been coming through that neighborhood.	01:28:24
	They might have hit it.	01:28:28
	Can you agree to that?	01:28:30
	That it will be picked up somewhere else or no?	01:28:32
	OK, Mr. Partridge.	01:28:35
	Did the slow the?	01:28:37
	We installed a sign. You contacted me? Yes. Did that help them, the city? We had Lloyd go out there and install a sign on your	01:28:40
	area. Those signs helped and so did the stop sign, the signs that you all put in the neighborhood.	01:28:47
	Those are those are much really appreciated.	01:28:54
	So your concern is?	01:29:00
	One only and.	01:29:03
	It'd be picked up somewhere else. That was your concern.	01:29:06
	Yes, Sir, and brought back.	01:29:08
	Somewhere else.	01:29:11
	Yeah.	01:29:12
	Where they got where it got picked up.	01:29:14
	They're not really willing to accept that. Let's work it. Well, it doesn't. The reason?	01:29:16
	The out of respect.	01:29:20
	It's going to get taken to the same place no matter who delivers it.	01:29:23
	So if they take it to Walmart.	01:29:27
	And they disconnect it there.	01:29:30
	And then these gentlemen go pick it up.	01:29:32
	They're just going to take it to the same place that they were going to deliver it to anyways. I from what I understand, unless	01:29:34
	I'm not seeing something.	01:29:37
	Correctly right with the kids in the neighborhood and.	01:29:41
	Person that likes to my husband.	01:29:45
	That likes to go through the neighborhood and he goes through the neighborhood two or three.	01:29:47
	Times a day.	01:29:52
	So one question real quick before, is there times that they pick these things up? Like is there? Is there like?	01:29:55
	Hours of operation.	01:30:01
	So.	01:30:12
	Sure.	01:30:17
	One month.	01:30:19
	So that's two times.	01:30:20
	I mean, we probably use it more than that and more.	01:30:22
	So I don't understand.	01:30:27
	Why we would have to meet at a different location other than a house if we would have to bring him back?	01:30:29
	That also is 1 trailer.	01:30:34
	Is there a typical pick up time?	01:30:38
	Like, you know, you check into a motel at.	01:30:39
	3.	01:30:41
	You know.	01:30:49
	Understand.	01:30:50
	Mr. Fleming.	01:30:51
	I can see the 1 trailer.	01:30:53
	When I foresee a problem.	01:30:57
	Occurring.	01:31:00
	Is these individuals that.	01:31:02
	Want to rent your trailer may not have the experience.	01:31:04
	Of how to bath it in.	01:31:08
	To the location where you are.	01:31:10
	Where if you met them?	01:31:13
	You're shaking your head.	01:31:15
	I had the privilege of driving a 38 foot triaxial trailer.	01:31:18
	For 19 years.	01:31:24
	And it's not as easy as it looked when you're backing it up.	01:31:26
	I have a very heavy concern about.	01:31:31
	Individuals.	01:31:34
	Who? You don't know their driving record?	01:31:36
	You don't know their experience.	01:31:39
	And you're going to back it into your yard.	01:31:48
	You didn't say that.	01:31:52
	Did you say that?	01:31:56
	That's a. That's a literal, yes, correct.	01:31:59
	Have you put it down?	01:32:02
	And given it to Christie.	01:32:03
	That you are responsible for putting it on.	01:32:05
	And you were going to be responsible for taking it off the street.	01:32:09
	That makes sense.	01:32:21
	OK, to clarify, yes, ma'am.	01:32:33
	My concern, excuse me, is.	01:32:43
	I have 3 great grandchildren that live with me.	01:32:46
	They ride their bike on the road.	01:32:49
	And people come barely an unmarried place it's.	01:32:51
	Circular.	01:32:55
	Street and they come flying around in a.	01:32:57
	The kids, I'm out there watching them. They don't just do it on their own.	01:33:01
	And Mr. Rankonis is on the road. That is our concern.	01:33:06
	Like I said, like she said, only one trailer, yes.	01:33:10
	But.	01:33:13
	Are they going to watch out for kids or?	01:33:15
	I know, Mr. Partridge.	01:33:19
	I brought it to him that.	01:33:21
	They you know, when we had the meeting before, it was not.	01:33:22
	There was not a quorum.	01:33:28
	And there was one particular person that was representing the city that was very.	01:33:31
	And laughing and making fun of us and commenting.	01:33:36
	Things when we left.	01:33:40
	Which was very unprofessional.	01:33:42
	Point of view.	01:33:44
	But to go back to it is my concern is my 3 great grandchildren that.	01:33:46
	Go up and down that road.	01:33:51
	Riding their bikes.	01:33:53
	You know, I know. We took the.	01:33:55
	The speed.	01:33:56
	But there may be a different.	01:33:58
	Way we can slow them down.	01:34:00
	I'll talk to Lloyd about that.	01:34:02
	Don't see people can't do that.	01:34:04
	You have a comment.	01:34:06
	I'm just curious.	01:34:08
	Speak up so we can get it on record.	01:34:10
	And there's 7.	01:34:19
	Mary place that I am the one.	01:34:27
	A result.	01:34:30
	Next.	01:34:31
	But that's.	01:34:36
	OK, OK.	01:34:40
	OK, let me let me just get your attention.	01:34:44
	I think there's 2 problems. 1 is the RV.	01:34:46
	And the other one is the.	01:34:49
	The traffic and the speed of the traffic.	01:34:51
	Which, whether we approve this or not, is still there.	01:34:54
	So I think we need to kind of.	01:34:57
	We'll work on that speed.	01:34:59
	But and kind of separate from.	01:35:02
	Just from this issue, that's that's.	01:35:04
	Well, I think it's a great, I mean.	01:35:06
	I hope you got 20 but don't put them on your LA.	01:35:09
	But you know this this.	01:35:12
	I think what it has to rule where they rent cars, people get their own cars and.	01:35:14
	I mean, that's a this little.	01:35:18
	Economic development, but.	01:35:20
	But I think there the comments are.	01:35:22
	Pair that you know this can't turn into a.	01:35:24
	And it's basically on the Internet. It's not like you're.	01:35:28
	People are shopping.	01:35:30
	That's your place.	01:35:32
	So but but I think.	01:35:33
	It's important to make clear.	01:35:35
	Clarify that it's A1 trailer.	01:35:36
	And that, that that's something that needs to be.	01:35:39
	Just one last comment, Mr. Mayor.	01:35:43
	I mean, I just think in good faith, as a good neighbor you would.	01:35:45
	You would want to look up for the children in your neighborhood too. I would hope so. I think if that's a.	01:35:48
	Big concern that.	01:35:53
	As your trailer is getting rented, you have direct traffic or.	01:35:54
	I'm not telling you what to do or how to run your business, but I just think that's.	01:35:57
	Probably good practice.	01:36:00
	To keep the neighbors.	01:36:01
	You know, worries at ease and and.	01:36:04
	Continue on your business successfully.	01:36:07
	So it's been a good neighbor.	01:36:09
	So are we ready to take the boat?	01:36:13
	All in favor.	01:36:15
	Aye.	01:36:16
	No one. No.	01:36:17
	One note passes.	01:36:20
	With the clarification. Well, with the clarification, I know.	01:36:22
	Mr. and Cornice.	01:36:26
	But with a clarification that is 1.	01:36:27
	And we'll keep an eye on it. We'll just make you know. But that's great that you're doing the business. That's great.	01:36:30
	Good for you and I.	01:36:37
	I feel a little unhappy with the.	01:36:38
	Planning and Zoning Commission.	01:36:40
	Say they didn't have a quorum. That should try to be.	01:36:42
	At the meeting, well, we did have a quorum if you counted.	01:36:46
	The by proxy vote.	01:36:52
	But they were not happy.	01:36:54
	That he wasn't here to hear their concerns. So at that point we said, well, then we'll.	01:36:56
	Continue it. They have to be there to listen. Yeah.	01:37:01
	I agree.	01:37:06
	OK. Yes, Mr.	01:37:07
	Saying we have a speed bump there.	01:37:09
	Or the Patterson bump.	01:37:11
	And I'm not sure what happened with that little discussion about.	01:37:14
	Three years ago. Two years ago.	01:37:17
	But there are other ways to kind of.	01:37:19
	Decrease the speed.	01:37:21
	And it could even be, you know, with the narrowest treaty. But I'm going to have Lloyd look at it with our engineer.	01:37:24
	And see if we can that's a different project though, that's a different thing that.	01:37:30
	And also signage. Signage, absolutely.	01:37:34
	But we're going to work on that.	01:37:37
	Is there any more controversial things on the agenda that we can?	01:37:41
	Cast OK.	01:37:46
	We're almost there. We're almost there.	01:37:48
	This is, I don't know, Mr. Lopez. Is Mr. Lopez here?	01:37:51
	Yes.	01:37:55
	You took your head off, I couldn't recognize.	01:37:57
	I heard you. I saw you lurking around the.	01:38:00
	Other side there.	01:38:02
	This is I don't think this is too controversial, is it? Who? Who's going to?	01:38:03
	We skip, Did I skip what did I skip? The delegate? Delegate. That's controversial.	01:38:08
	Who wants to be the New Mexico Municipal League?	01:38:13
	Delegate.	01:38:15
	So we'll continue, we'll make customer again Mr.	01:38:17
	It's a voting delegate and then the alternate.	01:38:25
	That is what I was going to say with the alternate.	01:38:27
	And the Municipal League would like to mention.	01:38:29
	The Municipal League would like to make sure that both of those people attend the conference.	01:38:32
	It's September 17th through the 19th NATO so.	01:38:35
	When is it?	01:38:39
	17th to the 19th They're both what?	01:38:40
	The 18th I didn't have my here.	01:38:43
	Both go. I can't go. I have a conference while I'm speaking. Sorry. Both of them go.	01:38:47
	Yesterday, like both in attendance.	01:38:54
	We can't have Miss Challenge doing it.	01:38:56
	I'm sorry, I'm already committed. I was committed through MFA to be a speaker at the conference.	01:38:58
	Wow. How about Peter?	01:39:04
	No. Get an alternate no.	01:39:08
	Alternator go to the meeting until.	01:39:12
	You gotta go.	01:39:14
	Make a motion.	01:39:18
	So we're going to appoint Mr. O'ginn as the.	01:39:19
	Delegate and Mr. Salami is the alternate and.	01:39:23
	Yes, Chavez, whenever she wants to go.	01:39:26
	OK, now Mr. Lopez.	01:39:31
	I don't know what you're doing. What are you doing here?	01:39:36
	You've got some pretty colored pictures over here, I see that.	01:39:41
	What does it tell us?	01:39:44
	You want to give us a history of how we screwed up?	01:39:47
	Mr. Mayor, Council.	01:39:54
	I guess in back in 2009 there was an agreement between the city and.	01:39:56
	Myself.	01:40:01
	The city needed access an easement across my property to provide a drainage.	01:40:02
	Of things across.	01:40:08
	I met with the.	01:40:12
	The city and we came up with an agreement.	01:40:13
	That way to eliminate any possibility of court or anything else at that point.	01:40:16
	So the agreement was is that I would give them access.	01:40:21
	Without charge, just hey, I'll give you the access at this point.	01:40:25
	But to provide a piece of property.	01:40:28
	In exchange for that access.	01:40:31
	Right next to.	01:40:33
	Where the I own a piece of property on on.	01:40:35
	Out on Faulkner.	01:40:38
	At the very end of Faulkner, time comes to.	01:40:40
	A point. It was the property right next to it. It joins that property.	01:40:42
	And.	01:40:46
	We came to an agreement that that would be.	01:40:47
	Part of the agreement.	01:40:50
	And we all.	01:40:51
	Signed off on it.	01:40:53
	Unfortunately, I probably committed malpractice on myself.	01:40:55
	Because I didn't.	01:40:58
	Look closely.	01:40:59
	At the deed.	01:41:01
	That was provided to me by the city by.	01:41:02
	Mr. Armagh City.	01:41:04
	Attorney.	01:41:06
	I was super busy back in 2009.	01:41:07
	I was swamped. I had a first degree murder case.	01:41:11
	That dealt with 10 defendants. Oh, we don't want to hear how. Yeah. So I just screwed up.	01:41:14
	Anyway, umm.	01:41:18
	So I didn't pay attention until here recently.	01:41:20
	I came to the.	01:41:25
	Assessor's Office.	01:41:27
	And I was planning to.	01:41:29
	Put something on that property.	01:41:30
	A mobile home I.	01:41:32
	Grandkids are getting.	01:41:33
	Trying to provide them a place.	01:41:34
	And I realized the assessor said no.	01:41:37
	That's still in the cities.	01:41:40
	City under city ownership.	01:41:42
	So I came and I said look.	01:41:44
	I think there was a screw up on the deed.	01:41:47
	Because they only gave me a little portion.	01:41:49
	What the heck is that all about?	01:41:52
	It was the whole.	01:41:53
	All the way down to Faulkner. So all I'm trying to do is correct.	01:41:55
	The deed.	01:41:59
	That was to be provided by the city.	01:42:00
	That's all there was number. That was the agreement that was provided.	01:42:01
	Bias and between US and I'm just trying to clean it up, that's all.	01:42:05
	And Mr. Mayor Lloyd has talked to Jerry about this and he agrees and.	01:42:09
	The vehicle we will use to get this.	01:42:14
	Deeded correctly the signal file with quitclaim deed.	01:42:18
	On that parcel.	01:42:21
	That'll be fine. What do you want us to?	01:42:23
	Just vote to accept the claim.	01:42:26
	I so much second to move the second discussion.	01:42:29
	All in favor.	01:42:32
	Thank you very much. Thank you.	01:42:34
	Mr. Mayor.	01:42:36
	Council.	01:42:37
	OK, where are we?	01:42:44
	We got new business.	01:42:47
	Mr. Mr.	01:42:48
	So now we own California St. correct?	01:42:50
	We need to put.	01:42:54
	Umm, lines.	01:42:56
	You're driving at night. I don't even know if I'm going on the left or the right.	01:42:57
	You can't see the lines at all.	01:43:00
	Right. OK. Can we strike it, please?	01:43:03
	What else?	01:43:07
	OK, old business.	01:43:10
	One point we talked about the election.	01:43:14
	And the change.	01:43:17
	Municipal.	01:43:19
	In the United States national election campaigns.	01:43:22
	And those rules and.	01:43:27
	Statutes that follow that.	01:43:29
	Election.	01:43:31
	I talked with the municipal league and.	01:43:32
	It seems that.	01:43:35
	If the city would.	01:43:36
	Want to return to a municipal election?	01:43:38
	At their own time frame.	01:43:42
	Then this type of an election that was conducted the.	01:43:44
	Two years ago.	01:43:48
	And the one that's going to be.	01:43:49
	Conducted in November.	01:43:50
	Has to play out through the sequence, so those two elections have to take place.	01:43:52
	But after that.	01:43:58
	The city can choose to go back.	01:43:59
	To a uh.	01:44:02
	Municipal election.	01:44:05
	Where?	01:44:06
	People are.	01:44:08
	Run against.	01:44:10
	In in various words.	01:44:11
	Rather than an at large.	01:44:13
	545544.	01:44:16
	So that's something what would.	01:44:21
	What's that? What's the cycle? You said two cycles. Oh yeah, once. Once this election is over. So in four years.	01:44:22
	That one can be a municipal election.	01:44:30
	Councillor Saloni.	01:44:33
	I recall that it's.	01:44:36
	Based on population.	01:44:38
	And that's what.	01:44:40
	Made us fall. I know we cannot back in or opt out.	01:44:41
	And run our own elections.	01:44:44
	But I think we would still have to run.	01:44:47
	At large.	01:44:49
	I'll, I'll look that up again.	01:44:51
	I think you said the information.	01:44:53
	I thought Donald.	01:44:58
	Yeah.	01:45:01
	After that meeting.	01:45:04
	Well, the elections that happened prior.	01:45:05
	To this last election.	01:45:08
	They had.	01:45:10
	Asked and required the city to.	01:45:12
	Doing that large election as well.	01:45:14
	But the city chose to do.	01:45:17
	Ward by ward.	01:45:20
	So yeah, I don't think that was.	01:45:22
	Is that they changed that law where?	01:45:26
	Where they made it.	01:45:28
	At large if you're under.	01:45:29
	That if you're over, then you have to be.	01:45:31
	10,000 Yeah. Barbara, Barbara, the Municipal League have.	01:45:34
	Had some advice and guidance for us in that.	01:45:39
	Well, the reasoning when they came out with the guidance was.	01:45:42
	That populations under 10,000 aren't district.	01:45:45
	But by running in wards we were essentially districting the city.	01:45:49
	There wasn't citywide, so that was the reasoning, but I'll look into it.	01:45:53
	Pin them. Pin them down at the New Mexico Ministry.	01:45:56
	When you're there, yeah.	01:46:01
	On the 17th September.	01:46:02
	No, but that's, you know, we always thought.	01:46:06
	That everybody would match up against.	01:46:08
	Whoever was running, that's what we always did.	01:46:10
	But now it's just the top four vote getters.	01:46:14
	As you pointed out, some people.	01:46:17
	Would benefit if people then vote.	01:46:19
	I will Councillor Collins to their own.	01:46:22
	Well, I think the the.	01:46:26
	County asked the.	01:46:28
	State Secretary of State to highlight there that you're allowed to.	01:46:31
	Vote for four councillors instead of.	01:46:35
	And so they bolded it, and they highlighted it.	01:46:37
	As well.	01:46:40
	Because I went, I went to that meeting.	01:46:40
	Macro, Linda.	01:46:45
	Anything new with your?	01:46:46
	Numerous things you're doing, I don't know how many more things can you do.	01:46:48
	Yeah, yeah. What else?	01:47:00
	Good job.	01:47:08
	And Vegeta, I heard you let the Co-op user.	01:47:09
	Center.	01:47:12
	But thank you for.	01:47:19
	Opening up and closing up too, so.	01:47:21
	That was nice. OK.	01:47:23
	Anything else for our?	01:47:26
	Christie already had your turn.	01:47:29
	Oh, OK.	01:47:32
	That's a terrific job.	01:47:46
	Who's that sitting next to you?	01:47:49
	Will she have the program?	01:47:52
	So what would you do?	01:47:54
	You were wow.	01:47:58
	What department? What did you do?	01:48:01
	Oh well, yes, stand up will ya?	01:48:09
	Did that make you want to be in the Police Department?	01:48:18
	I know that's right.	01:48:25
	Oh great, that's the boss.	01:48:29
	That's wonderful.	01:48:41
	You know I mean.	01:48:46
	Look at Delilah Vega. She's.	01:48:47
	The finance director at Tech, she was in that summer.	01:48:50
	Program.	01:48:53
	That's that's been going on for 30 years. We usually have well over 100.	01:48:55
	Kids, they get what, 650 or 750?	01:48:58
	Yeah, that's not the way you do it anymore.	01:49:03
	So what is?	01:49:06
	What did they end up getting?	01:49:06
	How much you? How much?	01:49:09
	Yeah, but how much does it end up?	01:49:12
	In their pocket.	01:49:14
	OK, so you're making me do math working.	01:49:18
	$1400.	01:49:20
	That's that's the money in their pocket and that's.	01:49:22
	That's really great for them.	01:49:25
	That's wonderful, yeah.	01:49:37
	Yeah, you still have that money in your pocket, or you spend it.	01:49:40
	Well, that's great though. That's terrific.	01:49:44
	Yeah, no, but that's I've always thought that was one of the.	01:49:49
	Good program, yeah.	01:49:53
	OK, I'll quit talking.	01:49:57
	We'll get. We'll get to the.	01:49:59
	Executive session.	01:50:03
	Not today, no.	01:50:05
	OK, they.	01:50:07
	Personnel matters. No, not.	01:50:10
	Well the 202 I got a letter from the tool base.	01:50:12
	Tula Rosa Basin.	01:50:15
	Down windows.	01:50:17
	And Luisa Lopez.	01:50:19
	Is going to have a meeting here.	01:50:21
	At City Hall on August 21st at 5:30.	01:50:23
	They want to inform.	01:50:27
	The fellow downwinders from Socorro and surrounding areas.	01:50:28
	What is going on with the process as you?	01:50:32
	And I have to say this but.	01:50:34
	The big, beautiful bill.	01:50:36
	I know I'm gone. I know you.	01:50:38
	Love that, but the big actually.	01:50:40
	Gave money for the Downwinders coverage.	01:50:43
	For their medical problems.	01:50:46
	And I think it can get up to $100,000.	01:50:48
	If you can prove certain things.	01:50:51
	So I think.	01:50:54
	And then there. But there are people now.	01:50:56
	That are scamming some of these people.	01:50:59
	And so.	01:51:01
	So it's important that if you are interested in this.	01:51:02
	That they'll have literature to pass out.	01:51:05
	And they will be available, and Louisa has been there from the beginning.	01:51:07
	You know, along with Miss Cordella.	01:51:12
	And all the people there.	01:51:14
	That's something. August 21st at 5:30 at City Hall.	01:51:16
	OK, personnel changes. I've got a bunch of them here.	01:51:22
	We've got.	01:51:25
	Lena Chavez and then.	01:51:26
	She did her. She does her duties pretty well.	01:51:29
	I don't know if you knew that we had our.	01:51:31
	For all the departments, we had a big OSHA.	01:51:35
	Violation and Lena along with the other division.	01:51:38
	Of people really clean that up and we're really.	01:51:42
	Proud that you did that, I think.	01:51:45
	The violation was.	01:51:47
	300,000.	01:51:48
	And so they brought it up that we sell with them.	01:51:50
	At 0 Victoria Salvar, the youth center.	01:51:53
	Glonda.	01:51:57
	At the Senior Center, Regina Valencia. At the Senior Center, Pete Lopez.	01:51:59
	Recreation Assistant.	01:52:03
	Probation completed.	01:52:04
	Antonette Lopez completed probation at the library.	01:52:06
	Shatia Apache.	01:52:09
	At the rodeo, temporary to full time, All right.	01:52:11
	José González Animal Shelter moved to the.	01:52:13
	General Control Officer Mark Mercer completed provision.	01:52:16
	Sarah Stanley, fire recruit. Jason Romero, fire recruit. Logan Walter, fire recruit.	01:52:19
	Jeremiah Garza, fire recruit. How about that?	01:52:25
	And.	01:52:29
	And one more Julian Mays, SO.	01:52:32
	With the help of you know if you want to speak to that.	01:52:35
	Tell it. Yeah, come on up. Because I think that's important for the county to thank the county and also.	01:52:38
	To finish out your staff.	01:52:43
	Just introduce yourself and my name is Daniel Pacheco, Captain with Socorro Fire Department.	01:52:45
	Yeah, so we just hired 5 new.	01:52:50
	Recruits.	01:52:51
	We actually had.	01:52:53
	How many applications?	01:52:55
	Already.	01:52:57
	17 Well, we had 17, but we tested 13, yes.	01:53:02
	Out of that.	01:53:07
	OK.	01:53:09
	And out of those?	01:53:14
	And we chose 5.	01:53:15
	We did have about.	01:53:17
	A good deliberation when it comes to.	01:53:18
	Choosing what fits the needs of Socorro Fire.	01:53:20
	5/3 are the county.	01:53:24
	Designates right? Yes.	01:53:27
	So there will be, and that's how the county will.	01:53:28
	Reimburse us.	01:53:30
	Yes, and that's the cherry on top. That's great.	01:53:38
	Try over doing great things. I mean, we just got.	01:53:41
	Almost done with all the restorations at the department.	01:53:44
	You know, the cleanup could. The roof repair is a lot better. Yeah, I mean, the roof is.	01:53:48
	Astronomically better. I mean, we've had a good rain and there's nothing left on the top of that roof. Before I had the	01:53:53
	opportunity to have all of it on top of my.	01:53:57
	Outside of my window that was collecting.	01:54:01
	I mean, it was terrible.	01:54:04
	But at the same time, they came in and did an amazing job.	01:54:05
	So congratulations.	01:54:08
	Mr. Fleming.	01:54:11
	Thank you, Mr. Captain. Do I actually see we have?	01:54:12
	A female.	01:54:17
	One of the new recruits.	01:54:19
	Yes, Oh yes, I'm actually.	01:54:21
	Lover she's.	01:54:23
	She's definitely fitting in. She's.	01:54:25
	Brilliant.	01:54:29
	So we're not having to worry about the five that we chose.	01:54:30
	We're not having to worry about anybody missing tests, failing tests. I mean, we're.	01:54:33
	We're at a position now that we're actually building the department as chief.	01:54:37
	Has been here.	01:54:42
	You know, numerous amount of times he's.	01:54:43
	He's definitely made a lot of headway for this department, you know, since he took over Chief Gonzalez.	01:54:46
	So congratulations to the captain. That's great that you guys.	01:54:51
	Doing great job with your people.	01:54:55
	Mr. Matt, did they get them? Did they get the new ambulance?	01:54:56
	I thought I'd say that's one. You got one.	01:55:00
	We're still waiting on another till about January.	01:55:03
	So for now, that one is done. It's in service. We're just waiting for it to get the radio.	01:55:06
	Which is another pricey thing, but nowadays.	01:55:11
	What is it? But so, yeah, we're just waiting on that and it's pretty much it's in service, it's ready to go in.	01:55:14
	They have nothing but great things to say about it so.	01:55:19
	That really helps.	01:55:22
	Thank you, Mr. Mr.	01:55:24
	I was going to make a motion to go ahead.	01:55:26
	Well, I'm gonna have finished.	01:55:29
	I just got sidetracked.	01:55:31
	Oh, hold on, I got Gabriel Luna who resigned.	01:55:32
	From the fire department, Liam Chavez from the Police Department and Garrett White.	01:55:36
	From the library circulation, now you can.	01:55:40
	Thank you, Kevin.	01:55:42
	Oh, Mr. Mayor, we'll make a motion to approve the personnel changes, as read.	01:55:45
	Second moved and seconded all in favor.	01:55:48
	Right now for the businesses.	01:55:51
	BNF Smith Francisco RV Rentals.	01:55:54
	There you are.	01:55:57
	Alice, Vicky.	01:55:58
	Amazon Mazon Bakery.	01:56:00
	At home.	01:56:03
	She's cooking out of the community kitchen. She could go in front of hunting and zoning and.	01:56:05
	And any man out of town, Boscocito.	01:56:22
	Peter Gonzalez and landscaping, Avi and.	01:56:25
	On our food cups.	01:56:27
	Maria Hertogh me on.	01:56:29
	Root cups banana.	01:56:31
	Box of Daddle.	01:56:34
	Out of town mobile discount.	01:56:35
	Grocery DNA drinks, non alcoholic drinks.	01:56:38
	Out of town, that's it.	01:56:43
	Move to approve the business registrations as read.	01:56:45
	Moved and seconded at all.	01:56:52
	And we'll have a meeting.	01:56:56
	Oh, I have a meeting September 16th.	01:56:58
	Are we are we back to two or is this?	01:57:02
	After September, Mr. Mayor.	01:57:05
	OK.	01:57:07
	Afternoon.	01:57:15