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	Councillor Ocampo.	00:00:01
	Councillor Ogin.	00:00:03
	Councillor Partridge here.	00:00:05
	Councillor Romero here.	00:00:08
	Councillor Salomi.	00:00:10
	We do have a.	00:00:12
	In honor of President Trump will all rise into the Pledge of Allegiance.	00:00:13
	Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands.	00:00:19
	One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.	00:00:25
	I invited Bezos and.	00:00:32
	Musk and those they won't come. They won't come to our meeting.	00:00:35
	This They were at the White House, I guess.	00:00:38
	OK, Mr. Romero.	00:00:42
	We approve the consent agenda as presented. Discussion.	00:00:46
	All in favor, aye?	00:00:52
	All right with this.	00:00:55
	Move straight ahead to public forum.	00:00:58
	We've got.	00:01:01
	An honorable representative from the Co-op.	00:01:03
	Come on up.	00:01:07
	He's making the round, so you're very impressed and.	00:01:09
	Happy to have a new.	00:01:13
	Co-op manager come up to the dais and tell us about yourself and.	00:01:14
	How much you're going to help the city of Socorro?	00:01:19
	All right. Well, thank you all for inviting me, first of all.	00:01:22
	Very excited to be here. The welcoming since day one has just been overwhelming.	00:01:26
	The second day.	00:01:31
	On the job, I met with the mayor and his team.	00:01:33
	And there had legitimate questions that should have been asked or should have been answered.	00:01:36
	So this week Thursday I'm meeting with tri-state and then I'll be following up.	00:01:40
	Probably next week when I have more information, but things are looking pretty promising. I have to tell you, I was.	00:01:44
	Very happy to meet you, we had a great discussion.	00:01:50
	And you know you can answer them one way or the other. That's great.	00:01:53
	Thank you for trying to answer them.	00:01:57
	The first question I had from you.	00:02:00
	Was how much was your electric Co-op in Wilcox?	00:02:02
	Sulphur Springs electric charging.	00:02:05
	The last.	00:02:08
	Guy that heads your job.	00:02:09
	I don't know, I just.	00:02:12
	You answered it right away.	00:02:13
	You know, so I'm impressed. I really.	00:02:16
	I hope we continue our relationship.	00:02:19
	And have it grown and we can kind of cancel all the conflicts we've had. But tell us about yourself. And well, I was born and	00:02:21
	raised in Wilcox, Arizona so I'll always call us a non politically correct name. We're weirdos because small town is what we enjoy	00:02:26
	and what we love.	00:02:31
	So when I looked around here, I don't see these big glamorous buildings you see.	00:02:37
	People that know each other, families, homesteading and just small town rural America that we just, you know, you gotta love these	00:02:41
	areas.	00:02:46
	Wilcox is half the size of Socorro.	00:02:52
	But the welcoming of God.	00:02:56
	I didn't even want to go back to Wilcox this past weekend, but I had to get a Social Security card because from the community we	00:02:58
	just did a Toys for Tots.	00:03:02
	With Chief Garcia and two hours and 40 minutes we had the trucks so filled up with toys.	00:03:07
	We had to leave because we didn't have other vehicles to bring because they were out. Toys would have been falling over.	00:03:12
	And then we were able to deliver those, but.	00:03:18
	Anyways, I was born and raised in Wilcox. I spent 30 years.	00:03:20
	At the electric cooperative there in about 20-4 years.	00:03:24
	Ten months in Marine Corps, both reserve and active duty deployed in support of combat operations. Three times Iraq.	00:03:28
	Djibouti, Africa security operations and then.	00:03:36
	The most recent deployment was in Afghanistan 2011 to 2012 for the war in Afghanistan.	00:03:39
	So I'm totally, totally small town.	00:03:46
	And it's just been overwhelming talking to the community.	00:03:48
	Meeting with the BLM.	00:03:52
	Got a meeting scheduled with the.	00:03:54
	New Mexico tech president.	00:03:57
	I believe next week tri-state to talk about the bring your own resources which.	00:03:59
	Again, that should have been answered. That's not.	00:04:03
	That difficult to answer. It's just going to get, you know, get to work on it.	00:04:06
	As far as the relationship.	00:04:10
	Our seven cooperative principle is concerned for the community and as being a trusted partner.	00:04:12
	With entities like the City of the Coral, the mayor and anybody else who needs our assistance.	00:04:18
	So that's what you're going to deliver, so.	00:04:24
	I know the mayor said I didn't make any promises, but I do promise.	00:04:26
	A relationship dialogue and anything we can assist with, we're going to start with yes.	00:04:30
	So please don't hesitate to call us because we want to be involved.	00:04:35
	So we're looking very well, very much forward.	00:04:38
	But I see it's a core electric cooperative that is 34 highly committed.	00:04:41
	Team members there.	00:04:46
	They love their job and they want to be great.	00:04:48
	I'll just tell you they didn't have the best environment. So that is my job to bring that environment and.	00:04:50
	I'm not gonna take no for an answer. You must be happy when you come to work as a core electric call. That happiness should extend	00:04:56
	to the community and when you want to be happy.	00:05:01
	And respect.	00:05:06
	Just love the small communities, it makes it very easy to do.	00:05:08
	Does anybody have any questions that I can answer?	00:05:12
	Let's go again.	00:05:15
	Why do you choose Sakura?	00:05:18
	So I wanted.	00:05:20
	There was 2 choices that I wanted.	00:05:21
	And that was either New Mexico or Texas.	00:05:23
	There was two cooperatives that came open and I interviewed for both of them and both boards.	00:05:26
	Reverting a pianist and wanted me to wait.	00:05:30
	I wanted to keep kind of close to Wilcox and I wanted more of a challenge.	00:05:33
	I was the vice president of Technical services.	00:05:37
	And.	00:05:40
	For my nature, for what I like, I like to be busy. I like challenges.	00:05:42
	Especially when it comes to leadership and serving employees.	00:05:46
	And then that return is great service to the community.	00:05:50
	So my last 10 to 13 years of my career goal which?	00:05:54
	Having deployed and made it back while I lost friends was the epitome of the climax of my life and careers. I thought, I'm done.	00:05:58
	But I said well.	00:06:06
	This is too easy now.	00:06:08
	Who worked? We created great leaders, did a great turnover at the old Co-op.	00:06:10
	I wanted to find a community.	00:06:14
	That I could give the last 10 to 13 years of serving them with all the experience I had and then working with the tight knit team.	00:06:17
	So that's why I selected super and have questions. You're like, hey.	00:06:23
	I don't know if it's you're too ugly or too flashy to stay here and support. You're worried about me leaving, I said. Listen.	00:06:28
	I'm going nowhere.	00:06:33
	You know, there's the board does have a say on it.	00:06:35
	They can tell me, hey, you're out of here or in one year I'm going to approach the employees and ask them.	00:06:38
	Did we accomplish what we said we would in one year?	00:06:43
	And if they say yes we did, then I'm going to say if not, that's that's the only two reasons I would resign.	00:06:47
	Welcome. That's why I chose the call.	00:06:52
	Just the community, First of all, thank you for your service.	00:06:55
	What I just want to know what your.	00:07:01
	Philosophy is on.	00:07:04
	Industrial rates.	00:07:06
	Or attracting maybe some manufacturing companies to come into Socorro? What are your thoughts on on doing something like that?	00:07:07
	Think we got?	00:07:16
	Kind of caught up in that we have a lot of service industry here in Socorro.	00:07:17
	And we know that those service industries can pass the electric rate to their customer.	00:07:21
	But we are looking for a sustainable manufacturing small little business to start. We had one at Solero. They were doing pretty	00:07:27
	good.	00:07:32
	That one kind of went sideways, but what's your what's your thoughts on that so.	00:07:36
	The way that cooperatives are set up, all our tariffs, our rates are filed with the PRC, so it's approved by them.	00:07:41
	So once that's followed on there, it's hard to change those things. It's not impossible.	00:07:48
	So I believe in.	00:07:53
	Economic development on given whatever the coop can assist in, whether it's deposits, whether it's looking at certain models	00:07:55
	aligned or underground free.	00:07:59
	Because if you think about it.	00:08:05
	Although it looks like you're losing money, that's.	00:08:07
	One, you're offsetting some of their initial cost, but also that's going to be members.	00:08:10
	That are hiring people.	00:08:15
	They're going to employ, you know, industrial, you're employing more than one person, so that's great for the economy.	00:08:18
	The PRC and the race we have filed does require us to look at it and if you violate it, you could be in violation of.	00:08:23
	What you actually found, however.	00:08:30
	You don't stay locked to those things. You look and you assess what's going on and if you can make those adjustments to support	00:08:32
	economic growth and you do it.	00:08:36
	It's just the ideas and to know, hey, what's coming in.	00:08:40
	For example.	00:08:43
	There's been a change in the administration, so it looks favorable for natural gas and different things like that.	00:08:45
	You can invest a lot of money or say you you.	00:08:51
	Make some exceptions.	00:08:54
	And it costs a lot of money. And then things change if the administration change in four years, where now they dial it back.	00:08:56
	The coop loses a lot of money when I say Co-op its members.	00:09:03
	So everybody in here most likely lives on Co-op lines. So it's a member.	00:09:06
	Your accounting on the board and us to make those good financial decisions.	00:09:10
	It's no different than a board or something you're doing for the city.	00:09:15
	But we don't want to. I always try to start with yes.	00:09:18
	Take it back and look at it with your tariffs and there's something we need to file and change then.	00:09:21
	You know, we'll take those steps.	00:09:26
	But instead of just saying no or just completely.	00:09:28
	Isolate yourself or.	00:09:30
	Given the appearance that you're not business friendly or economic growth friendly, that's just not the way to be.	00:09:32
	Does that answer your questions? Yes, Mr. Salome, Mr. Gonzalez.	00:09:38
	If you look.	00:09:42
	At the settlement that PRC did.	00:09:44
	I don't know if you looked at last week, the $948,000 yes, no and we don't agree, we don't want.	00:09:48
	Unless it comes out of your pocket, we don't want the, we don't want the users to pay for it. But the but the specifics of that.	00:09:55
	Of that suit.	00:10:04
	But the PRC said, and correct me if I'm wrong, polo or don't.	00:10:06
	They said you need to develop economic rates.	00:10:10
	I don't know if you read it, I read the whole thing, but it said you were supposed to.	00:10:13
	Develop economic rates. So what Mr. Salome is saying, and you said you look into it says you have to do that. Yeah, the PRC is the	00:10:17
	regulators and they said.	00:10:22
	The other thing they said is do you need to give US-led lighting rates? So there are some. Those are the two specific things I	00:10:26
	know they said.	00:10:30
	And that's the suit that they took, the Supreme Court.	00:10:33
	That that said, PRC had no right to tell her what to do.	00:10:36
	Supreme Court said no, that's not true.	00:10:40
	Here PRC sets the rules.	00:10:43
	And they on top of that, they find them over 900.	00:10:46
	Maybe a million to whatever is going to be.	00:10:50
	For not listening to what the PRC said.	00:10:53
	But in that suit, that does say.	00:10:56
	That the club needs to develop economic rates and so I hope you look at that and and.	00:10:59
	Maybe try to develop those. I mean, not that we've got somebody knocking on the door trying to come in and start a manufacturing,	00:11:05
	but.	00:11:07
	But that's one of the things. The LED lighting is another thing, and I have to tell you have been very helpful.	00:11:10
	And I have to thank Mr. Anaya, the Chairman and I, who actually.	00:11:16
	Started that ball rolling by asking for a meeting when I appreciate that.	00:11:19
	I just want to say that that's in the ruling.	00:11:24
	Yeah, I'm currently waiting for the actual hearing, but I received 2 updated documents.	00:11:26
	I read both of them, but tell your lawyers that is gratis from now on. Don't have them make don't have them charge you.	00:11:31
	Because they've done a terrible job, by the way.	00:11:37
	Just to accomplish, first of all, welcome and thank you for your service. How much experience do you have with renewable energy	00:11:41
	and.	00:11:45
	And what are your thoughts on that? We set records in Arizona for renewables that I happen to be the department I have.	00:11:49
	Which was we took over.	00:11:57
	We had a one MW solar on the South end of our service and then a month one MW on the North End.	00:11:59
	And then we just.	00:12:08
	Installed a 20 MW solar and then a twenty MW battery with a brand new substation.	00:12:09
	So we're very familiar with.	00:12:15
	Renewable. So we take the all, all and above approach of renewables.	00:12:16
	Or you have to be careful is.	00:12:21
	They don't fast ramp.	00:12:23
	So for example, the battery stores, it looked just tremendous.	00:12:24
	The technology is not 100% yet.	00:12:28
	For solar you got to have sun.	00:12:31
	And when that sun disappears, you have to have the type of Elmar 6000 units or something equivalent to that that can ramp up	00:12:33
	quickly so you don't lose power.	00:12:38
	You gotta be careful rendering people vulnerable when you're.	00:12:44
	You know, you're maybe going too aggressive on renewables. We know they work. We know they need the sun or wind in that case, so.	00:12:48
	You got to put the perfect studies into them.	00:12:57
	You've got to use the team and it is possible for renewals, renewables.	00:12:59
	And Mr. Let me add something to that.	00:13:04
	You know Chris Martinez.	00:13:08
	Remember Chris?	00:13:09
	Columbus, you know, Chris is.	00:13:12
	From here, his dad used to work for the city. He works for Columbus. Yeah, but he's a he's a manager. No, I'm going to get to	00:13:16
	that. I'm just trying to remind people who he is.	00:13:21
	And did it work for the?	00:13:26
	Here, I'm not sure you remember John Martinez is his brother who does security cameras.	00:13:28
	But Chris is the manager at Columbus Electric.	00:13:35
	Columbus Electric.	00:13:38
	Doesn't supply Deming, it supplies its supplies.	00:13:39
	The pecan orchards and and the and the farming and when he mentioned.	00:13:43
	Bring you on.	00:13:50
	There was a. There was a.	00:13:51
	A program.	00:13:53
	And it's actually sunsetted, I think, so to speak, I have to use that it's sunsetted.	00:13:57
	That you could bring your own.	00:14:02
	Solar.	00:14:04
	Up to 40%.	00:14:06
	To your electric grid.	00:14:09
	So I was talking to Chris about this and what the Columbus Electric did at the time when we actually mentioned it to the on the	00:14:11
	previous manager.	00:14:15
	That perhaps they should look into electric is that he bought 2%.	00:14:19
	Of solar electricity.	00:14:23
	Not that they've built their own solar array.	00:14:25
	But in Tucson, I thought, maybe it's around Tucson, there's a grid.	00:14:28
	That put together 250 megawatts of solar.	00:14:32
	And so he bought 2% of that.	00:14:36
	Through Columbus Electric.	00:14:38
	So that they would supply and what you have to do is you have to bid on how much you'll pick them for the solar.	00:14:40
	And it was a bidding process.	00:14:46
	I can't remember the amount that he paid.	00:14:48
	But that then got integrated.	00:14:51
	Into the electric that he buys and I guess he buys from tri-state also.	00:14:53
	But there was a window.	00:14:58
	That this.	00:14:59
	Passed up and we talked about this to him.	00:15:01
	And the word is bring your own.	00:15:03
	Which means you can bring your own. You can either build a solar plant yourself.	00:15:06
	Or you can buy into a solar.	00:15:09
	That just put it in the grid. Everything goes around in the same grid.	00:15:12
	But he actually bought 2% of them.	00:15:16
	And so that then it got integrated with the rates of tri-state.	00:15:18
	And we had been trying and trying and trying to talk to the.	00:15:23
	The court and the.	00:15:26
	You know, I'm really glad we're talking and you know, his Co-op is like a was it 400 million?	00:15:28
	Yes, the coop that it came from is a $400 million golf.	00:15:33
	And he was the vice president of technology.	00:15:37
	So, you know, I think he comes from a.	00:15:40
	I think and I hope that he comes from a.	00:15:42
	A place where we are looking into innovation.	00:15:45
	Yeah, we actually partnered with schools. This was.	00:15:49
	At that time I was a journal and technician wiring.	00:15:52
	The major services for the solar.	00:15:56
	At the parking lots and multiple schools in southeastern Arizona.	00:15:59
	There's a social economic justice tool that you bring up, Socorro.	00:16:03
	And you can see all the metrics where we meet.	00:16:07
	All these different.	00:16:10
	And I was surprised to come here and not see any of that.	00:16:12
	Because that's free money. I mean, you got to get to work and do it, but.	00:16:15
	It's doable. Other other places are doing it and.	00:16:18
	That's one thing that was disappointed that I didn't see that here, that partnership opportunity.	00:16:22
	So.	00:16:27
	That's what we're going to meet about on Thursday, so I'm hoping I'm keeping my fingers crossed it.	00:16:30
	It's not too late because this morning.	00:16:34
	I haven't validated myself but I heard they were dialing back.	00:16:36
	Some of the.	00:16:40
	Money for.	00:16:42
	You know, renewable.	00:16:44
	And I think it.	00:16:46
	Well, the the you know, on a smaller scale for sure, not businesses or coops purchasing renewable energy.	00:16:49
	You know you if you look around town. We live in a desert and.	00:16:54
	This is one of the few towns you look around in residential you don't see as many solar panels up on roofs that you see in other	00:16:58
	towns that are within 30 to 45 minutes from here.	00:17:03
	And um.	00:17:08
	You know, I've, I've dealt with them quite a bit and I've talked to.	00:17:09
	And I'm in the business of, you know, dealing with homeowners all the time. And when you do your math, and I'm one that did my	00:17:13
	math, but you know, we just, we decided to try to do what we could do to put solar on our home.	00:17:19
	And golly like the amount that we get paid per kilowatt. I don't even, I don't want to quote it, but I did the math a couple years	00:17:26
	back.	00:17:30
	And if it was in it, if it was in Los Lunas or Albuquerque or anywhere S, the amount of credit were actually being paid per kWh,	00:17:34
	whatever that is.	00:17:38
	It's like a. It's like.	00:17:43
	It's like you're penalizing yourself for doing it here. I mean, really? And then to have different rules for commercial buildings	00:17:45
	where there's commercial property owners that want to have solar on their buildings.	00:17:51
	But uh.	00:17:56
	They don't even get a buyback or there's just certain things that I brought up questions and we've just never gotten answers other	00:17:57
	than no. That's how everybody does it and it's absolutely not.	00:18:02
	How everybody does it and I've got homeowners that want it now in town and there's there's contractors that have shown up in	00:18:08
	Sephora. They want to open up businesses.	00:18:12
	That want to do this and then they find out.	00:18:16
	They're not going to lie to the customer when they do their evaluation and they get their bill and they say.	00:18:19
	Yeah. I mean, it's not going to benefit you.	00:18:25
	Like long term, it'll take you 50 years having these these panels up here to break even.	00:18:28
	Whereas if you move 30 miles up north.	00:18:33
	And then for the business owners, you never break even.	00:18:36
	You're just, you're just doing a favor for the.	00:18:39
	For the Co-op and those are a lot of the complaints I had were around renewable energies and I think it was really exciting to	00:18:41
	find out that maybe this is something we can do as a municipality.	00:18:45
	Even if we don't.	00:18:50
	Engage in the business of so of a.	00:18:52
	Electricity if we were to create some sort of like solar pad or something to put in the grid.	00:18:55
	And I know we're still waiting on some of those numbers, but.	00:18:59
	Man, it will be a breath of fresh air to see the Coop us work together the numbers you're talking about.	00:19:03
	And this is just a.	00:19:08
	Round figure Maybe Paula knows better, but they started out at six to seven cents a kilowatt.	00:19:09
	Reimbursement, they kept dropping it, dropping it dropping. I think it's less than half a cent now.	00:19:14
	That they would, you know, pay so.	00:19:19
	That's that's what happened is that although there's some people like I think are.	00:19:21
	Ex representative. She has a.	00:19:26
	Solar on her positive outcomes building and she zeroes out.	00:19:28
	So that which is great. So she's not getting any money, but she zeros out on her electric bill.	00:19:32
	But then she still is paying for the panels that were up there.	00:19:37
	I think what's council accomplished saying is that.	00:19:41
	That dialogue.	00:19:44
	Was just brushed off.	00:19:45
	It just never happened. And so that's we're just giving you that. Thank you for being here. We definitely want to hear. I mean,	00:19:47
	I've been through.	00:19:50
	A number of situations from when it was heavily subsidized.	00:19:54
	And then people put solar.	00:19:58
	And they were told things like, hey, instead of renting your electricity, why don't you own it? And then they were blown away when	00:20:00
	it came time to maintenance on them and.	00:20:04
	That electric.	00:20:09
	Or that solar supplier had, you know, taken off on them.	00:20:11
	Or when they installed their equipment, their inverter burned down, their warranties weren't, so we would get these calls.	00:20:14
	Recreated at the old coop where you can punch in the data and they'll give you an idea.	00:20:20
	For what your return is because remember when solar when it comes on.	00:20:24
	You don't store it, it doesn't store, so it goes back and you'll use at your house as well.	00:20:28
	So the coop doesn't always get everything that it looks like, that's why you have the.	00:20:33
	Delivered and received.	00:20:38
	You know so and the other thing is that.	00:20:40
	Soldier has got to still go on the line, so there is a maintenance. We're using the same lines to return that power on.	00:20:42
	So calls figure that out and go, wait a minute, we're not charging the maintenance the same maintenance that we pay.	00:20:49
	That cost of service that it costs to get from the GNT.	00:20:54
	To the sub transmission to the distribution substation.	00:20:57
	Through the secondary service to either your home or your business.	00:21:01
	So we pay that maintenance fee we discovered in Arizona. So people weren't paying that, so they wanted to go, wait a minute, we	00:21:05
	can't be subsidizing.	00:21:09
	So there's just some, there's a number of situations. The main thing is.	00:21:13
	We'll definitely look at it.	00:21:17
	Mr. Parkinson, just does that answer your?	00:21:18
	Yes, yeah, that's, I mean just having an open dialogue about it. I mean, it works. It works. Why not try to figure out how we can	00:21:23
	make it work for the benefit of the community and those who want it in the environment? I mean, in the environment, absolutely.	00:21:29
	Thank you that good segue from Go to accomplish.	00:21:36
	We talked earlier before the.	00:21:40
	Before the meeting and it's just good to have somebody and all the great questions that they asked. I don't have a question.	00:21:42
	Thanks for your service. I'm glad that we can have dialogue now and hopefully we can.	00:21:47
	Find, get creative and.	00:21:53
	Find ways to potentially bring rates down for customers, or at least.	00:21:55
	Looking at and working within the community, I think a big complaint too.	00:21:59
	That was that the Co-op really wasn't involved in the community. Just even simple things like putting up the Christmas lights or	00:22:03
	helping out with things like that. That was always seemed like a customer was a norm, right. Yeah. I mean that's very poor to me	00:22:08
	that the cough is not involved. I mean that's business as usual. That's it's just good to hear that you know that there's dialogue	00:22:14
	you know you want your.	00:22:19
	You want to be involved with things. I heard earlier that you're involved in your community, so.	00:22:25
	Thanks for being here. We look forward to continued dialogue. Mr. Romero. I'm basically saying the same thing that the two	00:22:30
	councillors before me were saying. It's like.	00:22:34
	We think we're just happy.	00:22:39
	For the open dialogue and.	00:22:41
	Having you be here tonight and.	00:22:43
	Presented the way you presented positiveness.	00:22:46
	And I appreciate that.	00:22:50
	I just want to say thank you for coming and thank you for your service.	00:22:53
	And you and I talked a little bit about deposits and stuff like that. So thank you for having a.	00:22:57
	An open door and stuff for us. Yeah, definitely.	00:23:03
	Have you met all our directors?	00:23:07
	No. Has everybody, has everybody met? Mr. Martinez? Mr. Luceros are.	00:23:09
	Landfill and solid waste and this guy you need to meet because you're going to start a you're going to start a was it not	00:23:16
	Taekwondo? What was it that you're going to?	00:23:20
	You met Mr. Padilla already? There you go.	00:23:25
	And he, yeah. So he, he's, you know, he's a.	00:23:29
	Fitness guy too.	00:23:32
	As you can tell.	00:23:33
	But you got Ruby Lopez, our finance.	00:23:35
	Who's back there?	00:23:37
	And Chris Carrillo, he's our enforcement.	00:23:40
	Christopher Diaz.	00:23:44
	Chelsea Grammar. No Chelsea.	00:23:47
	Chelsea Jones, our librarian. The best library in the state.	00:23:50
	Isaac Angel is our natural gas.	00:23:55
	Steve Madden. Steve Madden.	00:23:58
	Steve, Matthew.	00:24:02
	Is our rodeo and the recreation out there?	00:24:04
	At the.	00:24:08
	Soccer field and working on a transformer with Lloyd on our new stables.	00:24:09
	So let the.	00:24:15
	You know and and.	00:24:16
	Feel free. And you met Paul, he had your job, but I think he's getting a lot less than you're making people, I think.	00:24:18
	And you met Donald.	00:24:26
	Lena.	00:24:28
	So that's, uh.	00:24:29
	That's our crew.	00:24:31
	And we've got another 130 employees.	00:24:32
	And and you know, we always.	00:24:36
	When Mr. and I was around, even.	00:24:39
	Is that we always had a great relationship with the.	00:24:41
	You know, whether it was Christmas lights or whether you needed a backhoe to dig out something and you guys didn't have the	00:24:44
	equipment and.	00:24:47
	With help and and you guys would help us. I mean that's the way it was.	00:24:50
	And then you know the other thing they're talking about, Miss Charles Lopez said.	00:24:54
	You know about about deposits?	00:24:58
	Having to bring your.	00:25:01
	Your warranty deed for the Silda.	00:25:03
	House you know, and whether you own the house and when you're leasing it.	00:25:06
	I mean, PNM, if you're an Albuquerque, just put it on the computer and you got the service.	00:25:10
	Those are the things that were difficult.	00:25:15
	That the public used to come and complain to us about.	00:25:17
	Over and above the rates and stuff. It wasn't just the rates.	00:25:20
	It was more subjective stuff.	00:25:23
	You know, but with your outgoing personality, I know it'll be a big help.	00:25:26
	Just to have.	00:25:29
	You know people many times you're not going to get what they want, but at least they want to.	00:25:30
	Feel that they got listened to.	00:25:34
	I think that's the most important thing. Well, it's about relationships, in my opinion. You know, we're going to.	00:25:36
	And if I'm there 10 to 13 years and maybe longer?	00:25:42
	We have a say on how our relationship is going to be.	00:25:45
	You know you can close your door and not want to talk to anybody in office but.	00:25:48
	I don't believe in leadership from behind a desk.	00:25:52
	And the community is important.	00:25:56
	It's very foreign to hear the things that.	00:25:58
	From the past, because it's something I don't subscribe to, you know, we are.	00:26:01
	We want to be partners with everybody here and we believe in relationships and.	00:26:05
	The 34 employees that are currently there, they feel the same way and they told me these stories of how it felt to be involved in	00:26:09
	the community.	00:26:13
	Most of them are born and raised here.	00:26:16
	I didn't like to do these things about 28 those employees when the previous manager started.	00:26:19
	No longer work there. I've seen a that's one of the first things I asked for when you're trying to give me fluff. I just say let	00:26:24
	me see an HR will notice what's your turnover rate? Let me see the employment turnover rate. That's that's great that you're, you	00:26:28
	know, attacking and.	00:26:33
	We'll hopefully we can talk again after your Thursday meeting and.	00:26:38
	And see what happened but.	00:26:41
	You know, just from the administrative point of view.	00:26:43
	We're still moving ahead with some financing as to what this is going to cost us.	00:26:47
	And whether it's solar is still going to be around when Trump is there.	00:26:51
	The other thing is.	00:26:54
	We are also asking our lawyers, I want to say that in public.	00:26:56
	To continue the process of.	00:27:00
	Upholding the previous manager and the coop trustees accountable for what happened with a large fine that so we're still moving	00:27:03
	ahead.	00:27:08
	As far as the city is concerned on that.	00:27:14
	Forefront shouldn't be any hard feelings, but we feel.	00:27:16
	The way it was done was wrong and that needs to be documented.	00:27:21
	Yeah, I got 2 recent documents that are.	00:27:24
	I got him.	00:27:27
	Was that last Thursday?	00:27:30
	So so PRC is moving ahead.	00:27:33
	And like I said, they wanted us to.	00:27:36
	Our lawyers to go and.	00:27:38
	I don't know what tech is doing, but our lawyer is going to continue.	00:27:40
	The process because we haven't backed off on that.	00:27:43
	But hopefully we have a bright future and that we're in.	00:27:45
	Get along and City is not going to be in the electric business. So hopefully this will come to fruition, but.	00:27:48
	We still have that pressure that we want to try to make the coop.	00:27:54
	Feel that they or we feel that the coop is doing.	00:27:58
	The community service that they should be doing and we got a lot of work to do over there, We're operating off 2011 rates.	00:28:02
	And you know, we're hurting at the coop, but we're going to.	00:28:09
	Stay focused now or down before.	00:28:12
	What's that?	00:28:15
	Yeah. We have not had a rate case since 2011, so you know.	00:28:16
	Just got there too so.	00:28:22
	You guys can get the $0.10? Yeah, they were encouraging about you know, they sent me that from but you know the.	00:28:23
	Sorry to digress, but the bottom line is if the coop would be more efficient.	00:28:31
	And not spend 1,000,000 bucks on legal affairs and spend their time on doing community stuff.	00:28:37
	I mean, you can be saving money.	00:28:44
	And that's my opinion, but.	00:28:47
	I just don't think the coop has been run very efficiently.	00:28:49
	But you know you got.	00:28:52
	I mean, they can say the same thing about the city, but.	00:28:53
	You know, at least we talk about it, but well, my assessment says the same thing and I'm looking forward to.	00:28:56
	Not repeating what has been done. You started the great you started on. Thank you again.	00:29:01
	Can talk to you about Richard Richard Lopez.	00:29:10
	When he was there, when you'll hear little stories about him and.	00:29:13
	And he was, he was a big part of.	00:29:18
	Getting the connection was his position.	00:29:20
	He was an engineer, he was a city councillor.	00:29:23
	Haven't heard that name. They passed away. Oh no, he's passed away and that was tragic. But he was a big member of the community.	00:29:26
	And always looked out for us and he was the engineer.	00:29:35
	OK, Richard Lopez, I'll ask.	00:29:39
	But yeah, yeah.	00:29:42
	Oh oh.	00:29:44
	But anyway, thank you again for coming back. Thank you anyone else. We took up a lot of the public.	00:29:48
	Time, but that was well worth it.	00:29:56
	Anybody else here that's behind the days?	00:29:58
	Someone up if you're not on.	00:30:01
	And he is your business, your business license again and you're still working at it.	00:30:04
	You got any customers? Yes, I.	00:30:09
	I've been doing a lot of door knocking. I had a few.	00:30:12
	Driveways and a few bites on my express the car detailing that I'll.	00:30:16
	That I'm providing, yeah, but.	00:30:21
	My biggest hit is up and coming as soon as this license. If I get there OK, my biggest contract I'll be landing is Walmart.	00:30:23
	And what is?	00:30:30
	There will be Walmart Super Center.	00:30:32
	And.	00:30:35
	The I do the graveyard shift as right now because I gotta get ready for my shift after I'm done here.	00:30:36
	Because of that I've been going back and forth with my HR about.	00:30:42
	The the facilities trash compactor because in hot summer days working.	00:30:49
	Over there in the overnight.	00:30:54
	It reeks. It's pretty much kind of hazardous to be back there breathing that in.	00:30:56
	And.	00:31:01
	I've been struggling across pressure washing as a business.	00:31:02
	And, and it's something that I enjoy doing because I did a lot of.	00:31:06
	Yard work. I've worked for the city, I worked for Emer Tech, I've worked for Solaro Thai. I'm happy that that was brought up.	00:31:10
	And I just been around multiple businesses around here.	00:31:17
	So and.	00:31:21
	Do that for Walmart.	00:31:23
	Yes, I'm a plan to do it for Walmart and it's and being this Walmart is contracted through the law soon as Walmart so I will have	00:31:25
	support and loss in this.	00:31:29
	And I have.	00:31:34
	Further had a discussion with AutoZone and they're up and coming to see if they won't take me on.	00:31:36
	And if I do a good enough job with them, I'll be from Sapporo.	00:31:42
	Student charge to do a microphone. We did that once, didn't we? For the whole city?	00:31:47
	Where we pressure washed all the garbage cans and stuff. It's just a.	00:31:53
	It depended on various like.	00:31:57
	What materials was in the trash cans at the beans if?	00:32:00
	Like if someone has the city dumped, like if they change their oil and they dumped in the blue bands or something.	00:32:03
	It's going to take more consideration so for the environment wise.	00:32:10
	For my chemical saturation for cyber.	00:32:13
	Sodium hypochlorite or.	00:32:16
	Of my other my degrees or something like that, because I got to take mine where agriculture stay.	00:32:18
	Stretch it up. I'm not at the moment for the suction.	00:32:25
	But right now I do a very heavy dilution process, so.	00:32:29
	When I had to flow into the city's gutters.	00:32:34
	It's very dilute, so it's not opposed any.	00:32:37
	Any environmental like risk?	00:32:41
	And my chemical columns that I mainly use is PITA approved because in agriculture because I also.	00:32:43
	Express the detailing I expressed into the city might be interested in.	00:32:51
	Working with them twice a year or so to do the whole.	00:32:56
	City and the dumpsters and stuff, and that's one reason I was happy with Cheryl back there.	00:32:59
	See their sanitation manager.	00:33:05
	It's actually my brother and Rick is boss.	00:33:07
	All right, Yeah.	00:33:10
	Say he's OK or what?	00:33:12
	To him about doing something for the city, if you want to try to get something, I'm happy to bring that forth to the city and	00:33:15
	happy to come here again because I want to express.	00:33:19
	Even the further of my ambition is to.	00:33:23
	For the city, local parks.	00:33:26
	Well we have very little sanitation and COVID and RSV and other as being a father RV is a heavy.	00:33:27
	Issue for young infants and children.	00:33:34
	So I have one of my mobile detail unit is up and going. I would like to request for permission.	00:33:36
	To come to a drive on local parks and.	00:33:43
	Either shut it down for a day, or there's Lloyd Martinez there.	00:33:46
	He's the head of Let's see what you can do.	00:33:51
	But I want to.	00:33:53
	I know you're naming all these.	00:33:56
	Pandemic type stuff.	00:33:58
	Let's not rile the public up here.	00:34:01
	If you want, let me let's do some cultures first and see what you can grow out of.	00:34:04
	Slides and stuff. I mean, I'm not going to promise you anything on that one.	00:34:10
	I think the garbage stuff you can really help us with.	00:34:14
	But talk to Lloyd about our parks and our.	00:34:17
	Our equipment up there and see if there is some.	00:34:20
	Residue of any kind of contaminants of viruses and things.	00:34:22
	But we can, we can maybe do some swabbing and check and see what we got before you say.	00:34:26
	All this stuff is scrolling out there because.	00:34:31
	Oxidation and air actually in the outdoors.	00:34:34
	Helps basically to contaminate a lot of that.	00:34:37
	And I actually understand that, but with also the ongoing.	00:34:41
	Issue that I know with loose animals and.	00:34:44
	With a lot of going on I've been noticing.	00:34:48
	I came very prepared about this. I did nine months of research. So let's let's try a little, let's start small.	00:34:56
	That we can grow the.	00:35:02
	Business, but let's start small and see what Mike about your also would like to also talk to Mr. Salami because I want to also	00:35:04
	extend it to the schools because.	00:35:08
	Well, he's not in this reason.	00:35:13
	Oh, is that one up?	00:35:15
	It's been so many years since then.	00:35:17
	Look back again. But anyway, thank you for your comments. If I could extend it to this evening.	00:35:22
	W9 have you done AW 9 here with the office? Is that what he needs to be a vendor?	00:35:30
	But you only get a WI when you make.	00:35:36
	When you spend money with you, right? Or do we just give them one what we want them to do? We're going to pass at 1099.	00:35:39
	OK, Mr. Mayor, Mr.	00:35:46
	Don't get any more work with. I just wanna say good job. Work hard Jordan, keep you up.	00:35:52
	George, George is on the business registration. So we're gonna, yeah, this is what I was looking for. I was gonna approve it	00:35:56
	though. And just one thing I could also extend to the community for anybody.	00:36:02
	Would like any mobile detailing or their homes, fences, businesses.	00:36:08
	Or it might be I'm the one and the only.	00:36:13
	Person in our county that was doing this business.	00:36:16
	Competition wise.	00:36:21
	The nearest person is in Las Cruces.	00:36:22
	And up north of Rio Rancho and Albuquerque.	00:36:25
	Is there certification for use of your chemicals?	00:36:29
	Because since I'm using the basic computer approved off the shelf of Walmart party.	00:36:32
	Party usage of chemical.	00:36:38
	Nothing commercial grade.	00:36:40
	There's no licenses or permits that is required to me.	00:36:41
	Well, thank you. Thanks for calling.	00:36:45
	I don't mean to underneath like I said, I got a my data or my overnight job with Walmart and the voting father.	00:36:49
	So I gotta cut and go. Thank you.	00:36:56
	Good man, good luck with your.	00:36:59
	Responsibilities.	00:37:01
	Of energy. What is that? What did I promise?	00:37:03
	I think the public really liked the.	00:37:12
	At one time that we went and cleaned up all the garbage cans.	00:37:15
	With my.	00:37:19
	Remember that, Mike? Yeah, I think they like that and even the dumpsters at the commercial is maybe give them a service like that.	00:37:23
	I think that would be a good thing.	00:37:27
	Yeah, Yeah. Enrique, see how he's doing over there.	00:37:34
	So.	00:37:37
	We did that in the summertime when all the flies.	00:37:41
	I think the people like that.	00:37:44
	Anyway, anybody else?	00:37:46
	Nobody.	00:37:49
	We are going to go to the ordinance for the. I don't know what CWSRF stands for, but.	00:37:51
	Donald does. What does that stand for?	00:37:56
	Clean Water State revolving funds, that's what it is. How much money are we talking about? It's an additional 750,500 thousand to	00:37:59
	grants two 50s alone.	00:38:03
	So we'd like to action on that.	00:38:08
	Mr. Make a motion when you pass ordinance #24-12-17 Second.	00:38:11
	So moved and seconded and Lloyd, that gets us to the end of Spring Street.	00:38:17
	Up into the hill.	00:38:23
	OK, so that that really?	00:38:25
	That's the.	00:38:29
	Last area does not have sores in our city.	00:38:30
	We started this project maybe 15 years ago then.	00:38:33
	Starting off.	00:38:37
	Harold Drive. But this is the end of that.	00:38:38
	Roll call please.	00:38:41
	Councillor Chavis Lopez.	00:38:43
	Concert game.	00:38:46
	Councillor Ocampo, Yes.	00:38:48
	Counsel again. Yes. Councillor Partridge. Yes. Councillor Romero. Yes. Councillor Salami, Yes.	00:38:50
	Passes.	00:38:57
	OK, now the LGRF terminate change.	00:38:59
	We're asking This is the local government's road fund, Donald.	00:39:04
	Yes Sir, initially we were awarded 200,000 I believe for the streets over by Tech.	00:39:08
	Will you work with the contractor and got a quote and?	00:39:16
	Was actually under what we were funded.	00:39:19
	So as we.	00:39:22
	Working around the courthouse.	00:39:24
	Lloyd requested that we move this money to include some other streets over there. So that's what we're asking the dot to do is.	00:39:26
	Mean the additional streets in this grant.	00:39:33
	Make a motion to pass resolution #25-01-21A.	00:39:37
	Second moved and seconded discussion.	00:39:42
	All in favor, aye. Now we're going to adopt the City of Sakura Aging Services Program Policy Manual.	00:39:45
	Why is that Linda not here?	00:39:52
	Anyway, Lina.	00:39:54
	Adding a code of conduct.	00:39:58
	For the senior centers, we have issues with some of the seniors when they get a little riled up. We need to be able to.	00:40:01
	Not allow them to attend for a while.	00:40:10
	So all we're doing is adding a code of conduct.	00:40:12
	Motion passed. Resolution #25-01-21B.	00:40:16
	2nd so moved and seconded discussion for you guys left.	00:40:22
	As a code of conduct.	00:40:26
	We'll get that for the we'll get that for the City Council, too.	00:40:29
	The man.	00:40:33
	So we.	00:40:37
	You know, with the senior programs going great, Vegeta is going great.	00:40:38
	But we have occasionally.	00:40:42
	Some disturbances from the employees.	00:40:44
	Which is I guess when you have employees that happens.	00:40:47
	And we want to, we want to make that, you know, especially when you're dealing with seniors.	00:40:51
	So we're.	00:40:55
	Want to make sure that we.	00:40:56
	We have that in place.	00:40:57
	All in favor.	00:40:59
	I want to present the Council with a proposal.	00:41:02
	To acquire the Hefner gravel pit on Lopezville Road.	00:41:06
	Reason being and I won't disclose the amount, but it's.	00:41:09
	Within the appraisal.	00:41:13
	Of 137,000 or so I think.	00:41:15
	That's the appraisal.	00:41:18
	Two things. One of them, I've always wanted to develop a water park.	00:41:20
	Ruidoso has it, Deming has 1 Santa.	00:41:26
	Santa Rosa has a nice.	00:41:29
	But #2 that came to mind was.	00:41:32
	The Conservancy needs a overflow.	00:41:35
	Area, uh.	00:41:39
	For their ditches.	00:41:40
	They say when they get flash floods.	00:41:42
	They have so much water coming in from the arroyos.	00:41:45
	Into the ditches.	00:41:48
	That they need to.	00:41:49
	Remove some of that water and that would be a perfect spot. Look, can you tell us a little bit about what they said?	00:41:51
	Come on up.	00:41:57
	Well, that all that water there comes to that.	00:42:04
	To the ditch there, right above.	00:42:07
	From middle school and.	00:42:09
	They would help to relieve water that comes to Sakura and just backs up so when it gets to Sakura it comes into the ditches into	00:42:12
	Socorro.	00:42:16
	And then you have the outlet over there on Hope Farms Rd. crossing. The railroad tax is too small of an outlet.	00:42:19
	So everything backs up into Socorro.	00:42:24
	They're saying if we.	00:42:27
	Require that the gravel pit and drop.	00:42:29
	Some water there, it would help out with the flooding in the coral because and the median that we had with the Conservancy.	00:42:31
	They want Sakura to have to be able to hold water for the 100 year flood.	00:42:38
	And which we really can't, so this would be a big value for that.	00:42:43
	Because.	00:42:47
	They actually want us to pump water that plants, it's a coral to the river.	00:42:49
	Because the Conservancy can't. Their facilities can't handle 100 year flood either.	00:42:53
	So this would really help out.	00:42:59
	And showing that we're gonna, we're helping out to stop some of that water, I mean, because otherwise.	00:43:00
	I mean, where are we going to plant water and you know, in the last 1520 years?	00:43:07
	We've developed a lot of ponds.	00:43:11
	That we don't have the flooding like we used to.	00:43:13
	But those ponds are emptied into irrigation ditches by active pump.	00:43:15
	Now, if there's already water coming through those ditches, they're not going to let us pump that into that into those ditches.	00:43:20
	So it's kind of a twofold thing is to have a.	00:43:25
	Trying to develop a recreation area.	00:43:28
	And also have something so that. So I'm putting that on as a discussion and.	00:43:31
	If the Council would allow me to go ahead and try to go.	00:43:37
	Negotiate the price with Mr. Hefner.	00:43:40
	I would appreciate that. I mean there's any.	00:43:43
	And we had the money. We've done fairly well with our gross receipts.	00:43:46
	So I just think if we could go ahead and do that, I think it would be good.	00:43:50
	No deal. What happened?	00:43:54
	We're still talking about economic development money. I'm going to give you that. It's going to come out of reserves.	00:43:58
	You know, and I'm not gonna.	00:44:06
	Tell everybody about this but.	00:44:08
	Keep it to yourself. We're about a million. We're about a million to over what our projections were.	00:44:09
	A million, too.	00:44:15
	This is 6 months.	00:44:17
	Told Mr. Hello.	00:44:19
	Slowly conservative will help.	00:44:22
	They help with the channeling of the water and then the pumping station.	00:44:24
	Right. Or how was it OK?	00:44:29
	Gravity, OK, you know how the ditches so there's no compensation and you wouldn't pump it out, it stay there, but that would help	00:44:32
	us to channel it.	00:44:36
	We're not. I mean, they're going to develop a conduit and all that stuff like that together with them. They put a turn out. Of	00:44:41
	course they would build a turn out. They could turn out and.	00:44:45
	Put a gate to stop it and they were diverted in there and it would either be an open channel or it would be a covert to the	00:44:50
	bottom.	00:44:53
	But that plan, there was number there. It couldn't have enough water to fill that pond up.	00:44:57
	Mr. Mr. Earlier Well wasn't there talks of that that that area being for the for the Eagle pitcher cleanup pump the water from	00:45:03
	that.	00:45:07
	That's, that's the secret #3 that's, that's we get our money back.	00:45:11
	You know, since you brought it up.	00:45:18
	We've been working with the environmental department for, God knows, 15 years on this project.	00:45:21
	And they finally designed where they're going to pump all that water out of the ground into.	00:45:26
	And that was a pond.	00:45:31
	And so then we will workout. And what they offered was that if we owned a pond.	00:45:33
	They would help us for gratis.	00:45:39
	To develop a landscaping scheme.	00:45:41
	And and maybe a camping ground type of thing. Not that they would do it, but they would develop the plans for it.	00:45:44
	And that's what I would hope. And then we would have.	00:45:50
	You know, kayaks or you know, I don't know if you've been out to Santa Rosa, but they have this fantastic how they have.	00:45:52
	They have stuff really, a lot of water toys and.	00:45:57
	People you know, it's a good recreation area.	00:46:00
	Because they wanted to put into our city sewers and there's no way we can handle it at the plant, you know, for 20 years. There's	00:46:03
	no way.	00:46:06
	And then they didn't want to pay us for what it would be worth.	00:46:09
	And then when they put into our water system, who wants water that?	00:46:12
	That's contaminated and cleaned up and then put into our system. We don't want that either. That is, yes.	00:46:15
	And we're working with them.	00:46:21
	But that's whether they do that or, you know, I don't know what their timetables tell you, frankly.	00:46:22
	But this other thing came up.	00:46:28
	As far as because we are.	00:46:30
	We are duty bound to the Conservancy.	00:46:33
	About the overflow of water.	00:46:38
	And when we did Bullock.	00:46:40
	They asked us to hold bullets, water.	00:46:42
	So then we run that on the street right now.	00:46:45
	So you know that that's this is kind of a.	00:46:48
	Trying to get a working relationship with a Conservancy.	00:46:52
	On this, they do have a they have they have a terrible time when they got a flash flood. Sometimes they even wash out the ditches.	00:46:55
	And so they want to take that pressure off.	00:47:02
	Mr. Portage.	00:47:04
	Similar to the the area by the scroll Gonzalez schools that holding on there. How's the city like protect itself or something like	00:47:06
	that's going on? Just just out of curiosity from my end, like if if we pumped a bunch of water into there and we own that land.	00:47:13
	God forbid something say that again, I'm not sure.	00:47:20
	Like as far as if we're going to divert water into that area, and that's a privately owned area right now, somebody's liable for	00:47:23
	that, that that drains into the ground.	00:47:27
	You're talking about that. You're talking about the, the this, if there's like a large amount of water in there, do we?	00:47:32
	At that point, we're going to assume the liability for that.	00:47:40
	I don't think we can ever fill that that sure. Or I mean, even if it's a large amount and there's something though, because people	00:47:42
	are using that, I'm not opposed to it. I think it's a good idea. And at the at the at the gravel, at the gravel pit. Yes, Sir.	00:47:48
	I don't think you can almost throw that whole area that no, no, not overflow it, just if they're standing water in that area or	00:47:55
	something having water now.	00:47:58
	Water table but we don't own it.	00:48:02
	No, no, no. But in the future we want to do is clean it up is put up a fountain.	00:48:04
	And have that water cleaned up that way. Yeah, Yeah. No, no, you're right. It's not going to be standing.	00:48:09
	It's not going to be standing that brackish water. First of all, if you want to look at the five year plan for this.	00:48:15
	Won't be around for that.	00:48:21
	Maybe so. Maybe I like, but that needs to be dredged. That whole grout, that whole pit needs to be dredged. Sorry, Marianne, You	00:48:23
	could. I'm sorry.	00:48:27
	No, but the five year plan would be initially dredged.	00:48:34
	There needs to be a fountain to aerate the water.	00:48:38
	And then we start working on like, yeah.	00:48:40
	Yeah, should not be standing water anymore. Just to say when they we had the meetings and have you pumped into that thing for 20	00:48:43
	years.	00:48:47
	You pumped water 24/7 for 20 years. You would only raise it 2 feet.	00:48:51
	Because it goes into the Aquaphor.	00:48:56
	Raise it up two feet. Yeah, in 20 years. But. But you're right about the standing water and the brackishness. Yeah, it's just	00:48:59
	nasty.	00:49:02
	Because there's mattress, there's people, people come by and dumped all kinds of stuff in there.	00:49:07
	Mr. Sloane, well, you got the right guy on the job because Lloyd used to get stuck at the gravel pits every week back in back in	00:49:11
	London.	00:49:15
	Plays real well.	00:49:19
	With A6 iron or.	00:49:22
	No. OK, but anyways there's no.	00:49:28
	Nothing that the Council would. I'd like to, I mean, I'll bring it to you, but.	00:49:31
	I just brought that up.	00:49:35
	OK. Thank you.	00:49:37
	Very good. And then?	00:49:39
	We have what?	00:49:43
	Committee reports We've met committees. Mr. Chavez Lopez.	00:49:45
	On the animal shelter we're going to meet.	00:49:49
	The January 27th at 11:00 at the Council Chambers.	00:49:52
	And who are the two people that you want to appoint from the public?	00:49:58
	I was sitting in the audience, no noise.	00:50:06
	Well, I got a chance to have an appointment and has it re ended Viceli Viceli.	00:50:17
	Ben Vaselli.	00:50:23
	And.	00:50:26
	Miss Tevis. So the county of the county, if the county, if the City Council, would approve those two.	00:50:27
	As an addition of the public members of that committee.	00:50:34
	Make a motion.	00:50:38
	2nd.	00:50:40
	And all in favor, aye.	00:50:42
	The Planning and Zoning Committee.	00:50:44
	We're actually meeting tomorrow.	00:50:46
	They're actually meeting tomorrow.	00:50:47
	Did you guys form another committee?	00:50:49
	When you're gone next time.	00:50:55
	Gone on the 4th but.	00:50:58
	If you want to, we can I can forward you the article from the Santa Fe, NM.	00:51:01
	About the animal shelter.	00:51:05
	Is a fairly fair. It was fair.	00:51:07
	And then I have some updates.	00:51:09
	On the.	00:51:12
	Shelter also.	00:51:13
	I don't see Lupe out there, but.	00:51:15
	There's some updates as far as.	00:51:17
	Us working with Albuquerque to help us adopt.	00:51:19
	Animals.	00:51:22
	And then, then whatever the committee comes up with.	00:51:23
	We will then look and see if we can't implement that.	00:51:27
	Mr. Abbas and then on the Police Oversight Commission.	00:51:31
	I have one.	00:51:35
	One committee member that I'd like to appoint.	00:51:38
	Peggy Lopez. And that's on the northeast quadrant.	00:51:41
	And I still need.	00:51:45
	One for the SE quadrant.	00:51:46
	Northwest quadrant and the southwest quadrant. So if anybody is interested.	00:51:49
	4-3 more. I need three more because they all expired. So, Mr. Mayor.	00:51:54
	Is she talking? The Police Oversight Commission is already full.	00:52:00
	They all expired.	00:52:05
	Huh. They're all expired.	00:52:06
	From what I saw.	00:52:09
	The last appointment, Lopez and then we can look and see who the other three are that we need to be reappointed.	00:52:10
	From when I thought of them, they resigned. No, they didn't resign. They were just.	00:52:17
	If we're asking if they want to be reassured if the council agrees to appoint Peggy Lopez.	00:52:22
	So moving to secondary appointment, Mr. Peggy Lopez from the North.	00:52:33
	East Corner Hall of Fame, all right.	00:52:37
	Police oversight committee is important because that's where.	00:52:41
	It's a third party committee that looks at any kind of police.	00:52:43
	Overreach.	00:52:48
	And what else?	00:52:50
	OK, I got all the department directors that wanted to come came.	00:52:52
	So whether we give them a chance to say their piece, Steve, come on.	00:52:55
	You haven't spoken for a long time.	00:52:59
	Let us know what's going on if it's kind of dormant out there, but.	00:53:01
	You know, how's the grass and all that good stuff.	00:53:04
	The new state? How about the new the new stables that are coming up?	00:53:09
	Yeah, the 30 new stables are coming along real nice.	00:53:13
	That'll be a big help of these larger rodeos coming up.	00:53:17
	In April. So when is that happening?	00:53:20
	April, it will be April 16th and 17th. The high school will be back early. Wonderful. Mr. Partridge, we haven't been in there for	00:53:23
	an event to see what the sense of society would have been like. Did you see a difference in there? Do you know? The same big	00:53:28
	difference? Yeah. You know, we have some really windy days out there as you get closer towards the metal. Just really just calm.	00:53:33
	Huge difference. Great. And we're getting a.	00:53:38
	Price for the sound.	00:53:44
	Which is going to get done.	00:53:46
	That's that's the next step.	00:53:48
	And we're not using them for the graduations again this year.	00:53:50
	That's up to the high school in tech. I don't know what's going on.	00:53:53
	It's on the senior week calendar that came out today that they are using the yeah, I didn't know if they were there anymore.	00:53:58
	Lloyd is working on doing the.	00:54:05
	RV Park.	00:54:08
	Showers and.	00:54:15
	Concession areas getting built also is getting done.	00:54:16
	There will be done.	00:54:20
	Anything else extra maintenance, A lot of painting inside and around the arena, doing a lot of extra.	00:54:22
	And is your equipment?	00:54:27
	Trying to stay warm today.	00:54:30
	Of both tractors and Justice One.	00:54:32
	All tractors are working great and I've been used currently, but they're both working great.	00:54:34
	Sounds good, Chelsea, you got all kinds of stuff up here.	00:54:39
	What's going on?	00:54:42
	This for me and everybody else AT Shirt.	00:54:47
	Oh my goodness, I only had a couple left so they sold out three.	00:54:49
	But I brought you bags. Constellation price.	00:54:55
	Yes, we've been really busy. We had our 100th year celebration. Unfortunately, like I said, we ran out of shirts, but.	00:54:59
	Take a look, they're pretty neat.	00:55:05
	So some updates are building. We're waiting on a quote to replace the encounter. It hasn't been.	00:55:08
	Replaced since it was put in so it's pretty worn out. We check out a lot of books, which is a good thing.	00:55:13
	The Friends of the Library is going to provide the funds for that project.	00:55:19
	City administration's been working with me to secure funds to update the elevator. The equipment obsolete, so it's definitely	00:55:23
	something we need to update.	00:55:27
	We're looking at repairing some stucco damage and water leaks to the porches.	00:55:32
	And received 2 quotes so far through Firebirds. Quote was 40,000 but they're only doing the stucco.	00:55:38
	Robert Rinconis, who's a local contractor. He quoted 42,000.	00:55:45
	But he'll also repair the porches that.	00:55:50
	And then I'm waiting for my brothers. That was recommended by Marianne, I believe.	00:55:53
	They're working with you.	00:55:57
	Staff changes personnel. We have Nelda Silva, she's going to start as a library assistant through the WILD program. So that's a	00:55:59
	program to help.	00:56:03
	People train and come back into the workforce, so we're excited about that.	00:56:07
	We have two openings in addition to that. We'll be interviewing tomorrow.	00:56:11
	Circulation assistant and youth service assistant, We had 14 applicants, so.	00:56:15
	We're excited about that.	00:56:19
	Programming I've attached our calendar for the kids room. The Winter Reading program ends this month, the 31st of this month.	00:56:21
	So get get into, finish those challenges. We have some kids really reading a lot of books, so they're getting prizes and they're	00:56:30
	also getting prizes for finding a golden ticket in a book.	00:56:35
	I also attached the adult calendar. I won't go through all of the programs, but we're still doing meditation yoga.	00:56:42
	Literacy is going really well, I'm doing GD tests every week.	00:56:48
	We have an ESL beginner and intermediate classes twice a week.	00:56:52
	We also do ESL, GED and reading.	00:56:56
	We're also working in the detention center twice a week.	00:57:00
	And I do want to bring up that we lost an advocate to that program, Vanessa Garcia.	00:57:04
	Was a huge supporter of the literacy program we've been in there.	00:57:09
	About two years and so I do want to give condolences to her family.	00:57:13
	She'll be greatly missed.	00:57:17
	Love your library, Kendall.	00:57:20
	Ask Cheyenne to call the hospital.	00:57:25
	Because they wanted to use the Convention Center for services and reception.	00:57:27
	Stefani Sartre.	00:57:31
	Thanks for reminding me and I have a lot of volunteers who will be willing to donate to cover the cost of the rental. Like I said,	00:57:34
	she from day one, she supported our outreach in there and we have people that are coming.	00:57:40
	Out of detention and finishing their GD and she's part of that, so she's gonna be great news.	00:57:46
	Tax help starting Wednesdays.	00:57:53
	February 5th through April 9th.	00:57:56
	Again, we do that every year, free tax preparation. We bring a lot of money back into the community and it's a free program. It's	00:57:57
	a lot of fun. If you ever get a chance to come by the library on a Wednesday, it's busy.	00:58:02
	Love your library campaign? In February, we're gonna accept admissions.	00:58:07
	We do that every year and then I've also provided some.	00:58:11
	Just financial information, we're getting some money back from the workforce 6728 from that program, GED testing, I get $10.00 for	00:58:16
	every test I administer. So if it adds up.	00:58:22
	What happened?	00:58:29
	It's going really well. Yeah, we've.	00:58:37
	Exceeded expectations for this fiscal year.	00:58:39
	Within the first few months, so it's quite a need.	00:58:43
	In the community.	00:58:46
	Umm, who has a friend's, a library say anything to you about their new digs? They're very excited, yeah.	00:58:48
	He don't think they're too excited.	00:58:57
	Be more excited with Lloyd.	00:58:58
	Really. Well, that work. I mean, they've done a nice job putting that together. No. Yeah, it looks really good. So thank you,	00:59:00
	guys. They're they're happy. Yeah. It's gonna be it's gonna be a move. Actually, some of the Rice participants through the	00:59:06
	detention center are gonna help move the books. So it's a good collaboration.	00:59:11
	But yeah, they did. They were happy with it.	00:59:16
	And then, yeah, we have some Joe Bond funds coming. Like I said, literacy, we were increased to 41,000, which is a huge increase.	00:59:20
	So that was based off of the participation in the community so.	00:59:26
	Any questions?	00:59:32
	I just want to say, Chelsea, thank you for everything you do. You've done a tremendous.	00:59:34
	Job in your position so I want to say thank you thank you it's a great community I mean it can be a better place to work so.	00:59:41
	That's the kind of library.	00:59:48
	Do you want to fill us in on anything except the drainage?	00:59:51
	When they're going to break ground, what's going to happen in Montana? What's going to happen?	00:59:59
	It's already started.	01:00:05
	So I don't know you guys passed by there, they have all the.	01:00:06
	Barricades up and.	01:00:10
	For the most part, most of the businesses are fine.	01:00:12
	And we had one little trouble with one, but I mean the fact is going good. Just been so cold so they can.	01:00:15
	They can't pour any concrete so.	01:00:21
	We're still doing work. We're going to redo some lighting there, some conduits for lighting in there. We locate some fire hydrants	01:00:23
	and.	01:00:27
	We took down all the trees at the coop and we're going to put up a.	01:00:31
	I'm thinking 4 new ones.	01:00:34
	Four or five, we're not going to put too many trees back.	01:00:36
	And then we have, like the mayor said, the welcome center up there. We're going to, I need a few more quotes. We'll be starting	01:00:39
	the bathrooms and the showers and.	01:00:43
	That area there. So we'll have that done before by the spring, easy.	01:00:46
	By the spring we have the studio park the lighting project.	01:00:50
	All the all the tensions done, they're putting conduits, we'll have the lights up and working by.	01:00:54
	The middle to the end of March.	01:00:59
	So then before the first game, the high school game will have the lights should be will be running.	01:01:03
	They're mobilizing this week for the sewer project, so they'll be.	01:01:10
	Doing working on the sewer on Evergreen starting on Evergreen going West.	01:01:14
	Next week, so they'll be the sewer projects going to start.	01:01:18
	We haven't found nobody for the sewer plan yet.	01:01:22
	So we had some bids in. There was almost two million, $2,000,000 more than we had.	01:01:25
	So we're trying to get some more bids working with people trying to.	01:01:30
	Get that project going. We move money over there over a million and a half and we still don't have enough.	01:01:34
	They were at 2.8 million and still not enough.	01:01:39
	So I'm still working on that. The plan kind of is in bad shape.	01:01:42
	So I mean that project has to get moving forward.	01:01:46
	And what else do we have? What is going on in Finley? How do you don't Finley still we're we had some help from the county. We're	01:01:50
	working on all the grading. So we're going what's going to happen, if any, is we're going to finish the whole outside.	01:01:55
	So we're going to finish the whole, we're going to finish the parking lot, we're going to finish the playground, we're going to	01:02:01
	stuck with the building, put the storefront doors in, put the curb and gutter.	01:02:05
	Sidewalks, we're going to get all that done.	01:02:09
	And then we get more money, then we're going to work on the inside, but we're going to get that outside finished and then Donald	01:02:11
	will look for money to.	01:02:14
	Get the Park St. paved from.	01:02:17
	McCutcheon to Spring Street.	01:02:20
	So we're going to move on that and then since, uh.	01:02:23
	Albuquerque asphalt the town. I want to get a price for the sidewalks in Sherman Gutter while they're here.	01:02:26
	So that project's moving along and we're going to start the storm drain.	01:02:31
	This week probably start the storm won't because we got to do some work at the flood control.	01:02:35
	So the guys that are working there and.	01:02:39
	We got to do some work at the bridge.	01:02:42
	They're coming in by an Eagle pitcher.	01:02:44
	So and then when we get a chance, we'll get into the.	01:02:46
	The flood control, the street department, we need to clean that foot flood control again.	01:02:49
	So I mean, we got a lot of stuff to get done this winter before the weeds start, so.	01:02:53
	Well, since we got a new police chief.	01:02:57
	What's going on at the Police Department?	01:03:01
	No, I mean Lloyd, tell us what you did with the architects and stuff. You guys are using the new.	01:03:03
	Yeah, also.	01:03:09
	We're going to close in, I think they wanted to close in one of the offices there, right. So we all that we have one meeting and	01:03:11
	I'm scheduling another one. So they have a basic plan of what they want.	01:03:16
	What Angel wants there, and they have. They're gonna close in that Sally port. I don't know what it is, but.	01:03:21
	It's like where they you know what that is?	01:03:26
	Just yeah, to accept prison.	01:03:30
	But then did they also want to?	01:03:36
	Office that was, that was.	01:03:38
	What was they were going to? Did you talk to them about getting a Carpenter or a Rinconus or somebody to close it in so you have	01:03:41
	some?	01:03:44
	Security there now. You'll be closed in Sally. You'll drive your car in there. That's not the Sally port I'm talking about.	01:03:48
	Oh yeah.	01:03:58
	Yeah. Well, that's I think that's what we're.	01:04:01
	So the judge typing, we're gonna have another meeting and the judge is gonna be there in Angel.	01:04:05
	Did your wrestling move out of there now?	01:04:09
	We got a couple things left. You guys use that at all for physical activity?	01:04:12
	Oh, good. OK.	01:04:18
	That's what's happening. No, I just wanted to.	01:04:20
	Did we decide on a meeting for Finley?	01:04:24
	I gotta get Dave has some dates and so I'll get that out tomorrow.	01:04:28
	So if you talk to our delegation.	01:04:32
	Those are our priorities.	01:04:34
	Police station.	01:04:38
	And Finley.	01:04:39
	To finish filming.	01:04:41
	But I asked.	01:04:42
	Since you're the drive by there and it looks so bad.	01:04:44
	I asked him to spend the money.	01:04:47
	Making it look nice. Put it in the park. Put in the park.	01:04:49
	Parking, landscaping, and then we can work on the inside.	01:04:52
	So that that that's.	01:04:56
	The reason why? I just wanted to bring that up.	01:04:57
	And we're trying to fix the street so library and all that area is all fixed up.	01:05:00
	Because if we wait, it's going to, you know, it's better to get that street done and just.	01:05:04
	We've done some work here in this habit. All nice.	01:05:08
	Thank you.	01:05:12
	Mike Lucero.	01:05:13
	You're coming up next.	01:05:16
	Council report from the landfill is.	01:05:25
	As is as usual.	01:05:29
	How many times are you getting in? Do you know we're getting close to 100 tons of.	01:05:32
	100 tons of you.	01:05:37
	And they're recycling as everybody wants to know about recycling. What's the, what's the story? What are you accepting?	01:05:40
	Except cardboard used oil.	01:05:47
	Appliances. Tires.	01:05:51
	Please and do you pick up any?	01:05:53
	Look up cardboard on Tuesdays and Thursdays from some of the businesses for the public know we are doing that.	01:05:57
	We are doing it, yes.	01:06:03
	Can we talk about what we're doing with the old?	01:06:04
	Motel. Is that for recycling?	01:06:09
	That was a, that was a It is for recycling, but right now they're using as a staging for men's and arms, however.	01:06:14
	They they had a grant.	01:06:25
	What is it $5000?	01:06:27
	And I thought.	01:06:29
	For $5000, they're going to get these nice recycling bins. I mean, I'm talking.	01:06:31
	Big recycling for paper and cardboard and.	01:06:36
	And aluminum.	01:06:40
	And they get this little bitty miniature.	01:06:41
	Recycling canisters for $5000.	01:06:43
	I couldn't believe it.	01:06:49
	You know, I don't even see I barely do things.	01:06:51
	It's embarrassing about.	01:06:56
	Bear something. I mean, I wanted to what I wanted to do.	01:07:00
	Was to have a drop off where you could drive in. Just drive out.	01:07:04
	And the other thing we talked about was food trucks.	01:07:08
	But I thought we were going to get this grant for $5000. We're going to get these.	01:07:12
	Big itty bitty miniature.	01:07:17
	I mean, it is embarrassing.	01:07:21
	So, but that's what it's, that's what's going on there, but in that nook.	01:07:23
	I wanted to build a recycling drop off.	01:07:26
	But take that and put some dollhouse. I mean, it's like.	01:07:30
	It's big of us being here. Maybe she is really embarrassed.	01:07:37
	But but maybe they're going to be 50,000, I don't know because that was $5000 worth.	01:07:40
	But that that's what wanted to do is there is to build that.	01:07:45
	And uh.	01:07:48
	But right now they're using a staging for the.	01:07:50
	For the street project.	01:07:53
	But I would I would like for you to talk to that gentleman to.	01:07:57
	To see if we can't at least get twice a year.	01:08:00
	If he's got a service, but I think you got to be able to suck that water out. You can't just dump it on the road. I don't think	01:08:03
	you can dump it on the road. That's why it didn't work for us because.	01:08:07
	When you clean something like that, you got to suck it out and put it in another.	01:08:12
	You can't just at the wastewater plant, Yeah, so.	01:08:16
	Well, no, but I mean.	01:08:20
	Don't put in the storm sewer.	01:08:22
	Hello, Mr.	01:08:25
	All right, tell us about your new equipment and see if anybody's working out. And then I heard tech was going to charge their	01:08:27
	employees.	01:08:30
	For the gym facility so.	01:08:34
	We're offering them our facilities, $10 a month they offered them.	01:08:37
	A lady called me and she said she was pretty upset the thing will start charging so we got like 5 new faces that showed up today.	01:08:42
	Umm, city employees have been quite a bit. Fire departments been going, yes.	01:08:50
	Julio's been going on his break to go workout, so it's been going. Who does?	01:08:57
	Julio Miguel.	01:09:02
	From the landfill you've been going to workout too.	01:09:04
	So it's been going good, basketball's been going smooth, no issues.	01:09:07
	Around 2:10 or 2:12.	01:09:12
	And then just met with Dana for the Arts Party on February 8th.	01:09:15
	So that'll be going on too.	01:09:21
	Good. And then for coming to season?	01:09:24
	Are you going to do baseball?	01:09:28
	Yeah, I'm shooting to start that in May, beginning of May, just that we were not in the summer heat in June, in July, so.	01:09:30
	Superman, April and given those two months and if we have to go into July, we're all into July.	01:09:37
	What is better?	01:09:45
	Chris, come on up.	01:09:51
	He you know, he also is a resource officer at the junior high.	01:09:53
	And I guess there's a little bit of commotion over there.	01:09:58
	What's? What's going on?	01:10:02
	What is it exactly that you do at Seracino?	01:10:04
	So usually I'll go and.	01:10:06
	I'll take some work from here and work there, but.	01:10:09
	Usually I'll go take some work from from here and do some work over there, but for the most part just kind of keep an eye on the	01:10:13
	kids and make sure there's no.	01:10:17
	Fights, or even we've had a couple.	01:10:22
	Agitated parents come in and I.	01:10:25
	Was kind of like, well, you know, chill out.	01:10:27
	Who do you work with? The principal?	01:10:31
	Usually the principal or the vice principal, I let him know, you know, that you guys have me there and let me know if they need	01:10:34
	anything. And for the most part they're, they're really grateful for it too. So they tell me every day that they appreciate it.	01:10:40
	But yeah.	01:10:46
	Whoever is a.	01:10:48
	Got some power there. I mean, whatever teachers, whatever, even students, they need something, you know, usually I'll I'll hop out	01:10:50
	too, so.	01:10:54
	I enjoy it.	01:10:58
	Lately, just for code enforcement been working on.	01:11:00
	Some of these burnt houses that keep.	01:11:04
	Going up.	01:11:07
	So that's kind of been my.	01:11:08
	The one on Blue Canyon and Prata.	01:11:12
	That one, yeah.	01:11:15
	Talking to the owner and we're going to.	01:11:17
	Hopefully we can.	01:11:20
	Otherwise you're gonna have to bring it to council to condemn it. Yeah. Otherwise we'd have to put a lien on it and clean it up	01:11:21
	ourselves. And.	01:11:25
	Yeah, talking with the mayor, you know, we our community is not the most.	01:11:30
	They don't have a lot of money, so.	01:11:38
	Whenever the mayor lets me help out.	01:11:39
	You know, everyone really appreciates that as well too.	01:11:42
	Do a gratis, but we got to clean that up. We've got to do something with that, right, Right. Yeah, I got about three of them right	01:11:45
	now that I'm working on so.	01:11:48
	Yes, Christina, someone in our committee too. We met the other day and we had some pretty good ideas that we were bouncing off	01:11:54
	each other and.	01:11:57
	Working together to see if we can get an ordinance to.	01:12:01
	Keep these businesses, you know their upkeep.	01:12:06
	You know, keep maintained so we don't.	01:12:08
	Who's out, you know, or someone else? If someone wants to come and buy a property or whatever, it's not a pain to get up and	01:12:11
	running again and.	01:12:14
	That just.	01:12:18
	Keep in contact with some some of these people that own businesses outside of Socorro too so.	01:12:20
	That was really good.	01:12:26
	Yeah, we did. Me and Chris is doing a lot of work we appreciate.	01:12:28
	Give us some examples or some ordinances.	01:12:33
	Let's see that keep Feel free Daniels on the on the committee.	01:12:36
	And my Lord is on the commandment so.	01:12:40
	Feel free to jump in.	01:12:43
	Our discussion, kind of.	01:12:45
	We go back from.	01:12:47
	Ordinance on gravitated structures.	01:12:50
	To an economic development.	01:12:54
	So we really were trying to.	01:12:56
	Corral the idea of what the purpose of the committee was for.	01:13:00
	We we know that.	01:13:06
	These buildings need something. We know that the buildings.	01:13:08
	Were a vibrant business at one point in time.	01:13:13
	And from that point in time to the to the next.	01:13:17
	Step. Well, there's no, there's no business there anymore. And then they slowly be slowly deteriorating.	01:13:21
	And so we.	01:13:28
	And the way I thought of it, and please feel free to jump in, was that, you know, our attempt to work with the electric Co-op to	01:13:30
	provide rates that were.	01:13:35
	Friendly for businesses.	01:13:40
	Would help to alleviate that and so that.	01:13:42
	The coop, The electric utility.	01:13:46
	Was going to be in my view of.	01:13:51
	Big part of the economic development.	01:13:53
	Plan So we're trying to grasp on what we what we want to do We have 3 examples here. One of them focuses on.	01:13:57
	On.	01:14:06
	Those those people and those businesses that own these buildings that don't live in Socorro.	01:14:07
	And so we want to know.	01:14:14
	The.	01:14:17
	You know, the legality behind focusing on, you know, if you're you're sending, give us a little example, say, for example, The	01:14:18
	Smiths building. Yeah, that's a tough one. Just to get ahold of one person to tell them, hey, you know, that we deserve your feet	01:14:25
	or whatever. It's kind of, we're going through a bunch of different people to try and get it cleaned up.	01:14:31
	So.	01:14:38
	Yeah, right now I couldn't even tell you where I would send a letter to have it cleaned up. I can tell you that we already know.	01:14:39
	I don't know who that is. Yeah, the Duke Rodriguez. Duke.	01:14:50
	Yeah, that's not true.	01:14:54
	We have those that information, don't we? Don't. Yes, Sir. We've spoken to him on the phone. Oh, OK. Well, I mean, you know,	01:14:55
	you're an example. You got that building you got.	01:14:59
	No, you got the rental and they know that the rental building is a nice building where they're just sitting there empty.	01:15:04
	And but you know.	01:15:10
	The the.	01:15:13
	They're, they're young, I think people, especially people from out of town.	01:15:15
	You need to make an effort to try to rent those buildings for productive use.	01:15:19
	And that's, you know, and that's.	01:15:24
	Something that but.	01:15:28
	If you do put it in the ordinance, there has to be some teeth in it as to what, and I think Albuquerque has something they did.	01:15:29
	Yeah.	01:15:35
	On Central, yeah, right now it's from Central and I can't. Maybe Donald might.	01:15:37
	The other street, someone.	01:15:42
	Yeah, it it's not. What direction are they headed for increasing their taxes, increasing their.	01:15:46
	Well, what signs are they talking about? You haven't seen the fines? Um.	01:15:51
	I just know that there's something in place for those buildings to.	01:15:56
	Keep, like the owners, their feet to the fire, just to keep them.	01:16:00
	Yeah.	01:16:07
	We mentioned this before, I mentioned it before a couple of meetings ago.	01:16:08
	Was that what can the city do?	01:16:12
	To support.	01:16:15
	Putting businesses back into those buildings.	01:16:17
	Or for example, a person calls and says, hey, I might want to start this up. Or we can so little have somebody solicit.	01:16:20
	Business to come to Socorro.	01:16:30
	And and connect.	01:16:33
	Potential businesses with buildings.	01:16:36
	Supporting the.	01:16:39
	Getting them up to code.	01:16:42
	Just information that would kind of.	01:16:45
	To facilitate them to come in. So like right now if somebody was looking to do something here in Socorro and they called, what I	01:16:49
	would do is if I was going somewhere else and looking for something I like the area, I would call the city and.	01:16:56
	And, and I would hear their story. What are the water rates? What are the electric rates? What's kind of a regulations and rules?	01:17:03
	Do you have, you know, we have a landfill, We have, we have an airport, we have New Mexico tech, We have a whole bunch of things	01:17:09
	working for this community.	01:17:14
	And we and if we had somebody that could.	01:17:20
	Could kind of focus on and maybe maybe that's Chris, you know, he could.	01:17:25
	Have a tool.	01:17:31
	That would allow him to incentivize somebody to come in to go to the to the tasty freeze and but you know, we pay.	01:17:33
	MRGDA Money.	01:17:42
	That's an equal. That's what I was under the impression that was the economic development arm.	01:17:45
	For this region.	01:17:49
	And they would be the ones that would send.	01:17:52
	Some people that want to do business in the city.	01:17:55
	I think, you know, we bring that up all the time, but I don't think we've cast them with doing that. We just give them money. But	01:17:59
	I I think.	01:18:03
	Well, I think I thought once we had her here last year.	01:18:07
	I was that's, you know, that's my opinion of economic development is they already have a arm.	01:18:11
	Why develop another one? And we can, we can certainly send them a letter saying that that's.	01:18:17
	But we expected them for that money.	01:18:22
	You know, and I think finding and the way it was brought.	01:18:26
	Are we an ordinance that's going to find?	01:18:31
	Because they're not in business, I mean.	01:18:34
	When COVID hit, it put a lot of businesses out and people aren't coming back to those businesses.	01:18:37
	And so I'm thinking that, you know, it's kind of government.	01:18:43
	Obligation to to bring businesses back into their community and I think we.	01:18:48
	I think we SH.	01:18:54
	With with merged, I think that's a good way to do it however it, but I think we need to have some funds that would support.	01:18:55
	Chris or support that person in soliciting businesses back because.	01:19:03
	I think, I think it would pay off. I mean, I want to put that on Chris, but we do have Economic Development Fund. Miss Dean	01:19:09
	pointed it out.	01:19:12
	That we would have money.	01:19:16
	And uh.	01:19:18
	Well, if we needed to put money, also incorporate some beautification project like you know.	01:19:19
	Providing them with.	01:19:26
	Film for the windows so they don't look dilapidated.	01:19:28
	So we can help make that work on that. I remember Mr. Dean wanted us to get an economic development person.	01:19:32
	We can advertise for one and we do have money to pay for that salary and we did approve a job description. We got 1 so.	01:19:39
	I like that.	01:19:48
	You know, when our committee sat down talking, we're like, man, we've got.	01:19:51
	We really want to beef it up like we don't. I mean it.	01:19:54
	The negativity of like trying to, we talked to Chris about it just like the ordinances and having to be the bad guy.	01:19:57
	Doing this and doing that and.	01:20:03
	You know, that should be an arm of this for sure, but but we really feel like some concerted effort. Let's get.	01:20:05
	You got the job description, we can just advertise it.	01:20:13
	You know, I'm not sure what the salary range is going to be, but we'll just advertise and make sure that.	01:20:17
	But then we'll have to take the funds away from MRDA just because.	01:20:21
	That's not.	01:20:25
	That's not the direction that we're going to go then.	01:20:26
	Unless we'll do it, Mr. Mayor. Speaking on behalf of Mersdah, I guess.	01:20:29
	I don't think the impression is that it's necessary.	01:20:35
	Strictly economic development and recruitment. I think it's more of a promotional.	01:20:39
	Umm, entity or organization that helps promote the area? That would be a.	01:20:45
	Almost like a Chamber of Commerce in a way.	01:20:50
	But not essentially the city's economic brand Economic Association.	01:20:52
	They better they better change their name.	01:21:00
	To well, no, I'm just saying that.	01:21:03
	That if they had well.	01:21:07
	Yeah, but let's just we'll try and look for economic development first.	01:21:09
	Do that I know Las Lunas pattern, You know Las Lunas is a different setup.	01:21:13
	There we are. I'll tell you about The Smiths building. It's a gentleman who owns it.	01:21:17
	He was going to put in a marijuana.	01:21:22
	Cultivation, but.	01:21:23
	The marijuana boom.	01:21:25
	Got so deluded.	01:21:27
	That then is, stop investing in it.	01:21:29
	You know, it just got too many of these little mom and pops everywhere.	01:21:33
	And so he and that's, that was his comment when we talked to him.	01:21:36
	And he's a big, I mean, he's a big entrepreneur with Ultra.	01:21:40
	But that's that's the reason he quit.	01:21:44
	Then I heard Harbor Freight might come in with. What's H hardware gonna say about that?	01:21:46
	You know, I mean, there's, there's a lot of conflicts about this kind of stuff.	01:21:50
	People say, well, we don't need another grocery store.	01:21:55
	I've been here 50 years, we've only always had two.	01:21:57
	It was either Smith's.	01:22:01
	Or John Brooks or what they call the stop and Shop or whatever.	01:22:02
	But now we've got a Walmart and John book, so.	01:22:06
	The question is, is there enough?	01:22:09
	Commerce.	01:22:11
	To be able to support.	01:22:13
	That kind of stuff that Las Lunas has, but we don't. They have 120,000 people. We have 20,000 people.	01:22:15
	That's, I think, the reality of business.	01:22:22
	Getting good rates?	01:22:25
	Good natural gas, water and sewer. We can help them with red tape and that's what we did with the others, the gas station.	01:22:26
	They put in a lot of money to develop them.	01:22:34
	That's what we did, Rancher.	01:22:36
	Grant's your supply. What do you call it? Tractor Supply.	01:22:38
	That's what we did with Tractor Supply.	01:22:41
	And well, she tried Solero.	01:22:43
	But Tractor Supply and.	01:22:46
	And this new gas station? That's 2.	01:22:48
	Big companies that actually came into town.	01:22:51
	So, and I think controversial does a good job in trying to.	01:22:54
	Get get companies to come in on their own.	01:22:58
	Hasn't had much success with the drugstore but.	01:23:02
	Drugs. All the drugstores are having a problem right now.	01:23:05
	I mean, the CVS and Walgreens are under big pressure.	01:23:08
	As far as expanding, they're actually closing.	01:23:12
	So, but you got your business, you got your business. I mean it's your job cut off for you. It's not easy.	01:23:15
	Maybe we need help with an economic development person and.	01:23:21
	We can think of a salary range and we've got the economic Development Fund. I put some money back into it.	01:23:25
	Well, that's, you know, let's try to get somebody that will do it.	01:23:32
	But then in specific direction as to what they're going to do.	01:23:36
	That's going to be the biggest thing.	01:23:39
	Thanks, Chris. Thanks for starting the conversation.	01:23:42
	Christine, what do you got? Anything.	01:23:49
	No.	01:23:52
	There is no insurance rates going up.	01:23:55
	What about our liability and all that? What about, I know you had a little to do with OSHA, but what's going on with OSHA? Number	01:23:58
	one, I want to tell everybody, although people knew that we were being fine, the city is not going to pay a monetary fine.	01:24:04
	It is 0 and we will come to terms with OJA and God development.	01:24:11
	And arbitration to to satisfy what their.	01:24:15
	The complaints?	01:24:19
	So Lenas work on Donald, Jerry, Armijo, Christy, we're all working on that.	01:24:20
	So what about your?	01:24:25
	Workman's comp and safety committee and all that stuff. Are we doing anything with that?	01:24:27
	Uh, chances doing. He's doing safety.	01:24:32
	Seeing the safety.	01:24:35
	You got your hands full.	01:24:38
	Yeah.	01:24:40
	I'm just wrapping up quarterly, end of year and then W twos will be ready tomorrow. Who's your contact for health insurance?	01:24:42
	Help. No.	01:24:50
	Arissa, I believe they tell you, do they tell you what's upcoming? Are we going to get increases?	01:24:53
	They haven't reached out like Tory Bloomquist, I think is his name. He's the one who's reached out the last two times.	01:24:59
	Don't be surprised.	01:25:08
	That's what's going to happen. Yeah, I think that what did they say when we went to a meeting in Santa Fe, they were switching	01:25:10
	from because they did switch from GSD to.	01:25:16
	Like HP ****. Yeah, health support My my question is whether the legislature, they were going to supposed to bail out the health	01:25:23
	authority, but $280 million.	01:25:29
	I don't know if they ever did that.	01:25:35
	Yeah, I don't and so.	01:25:36
	But just check with them to see what.	01:25:39
	Are they going to give it? Are they going to surprise us or they're going to go in July? Are they going to go on a regular basis?	01:25:41
	Right. I'll ask them and see if there's anything in the works.	01:25:46
	Isaac.	01:25:52
	I just asked you about the guys. I mean, it got cold.	01:25:55
	It was like 7° five degrees.	01:25:59
	Three on my truck this morning.	01:26:02
	30° yeah, but no, it did good. We're coming at £500. It dropped down to about 3.	01:26:04
	20 flags somewhere around in there.	01:26:11
	And do you guys like, have you been lighting any pilots or do you need to, do you have any calls for that this year 'cause usually	01:26:13
	you do. I mean, yeah, before, before they found those.	01:26:18
	Pigs that were stuck in their wine.	01:26:24
	Now that pressure statement is pretty good, yeah.	01:26:28
	I haven't been too bad, but like I said.	01:26:31
	We're just trying to get all those lines in place before they pave. They don't park.	01:26:35
	Church and center.	01:26:39
	And then I guess I'll.	01:26:42
	Look forward to doing.	01:26:44
	The South and department from the front of the.	01:26:45
	Library.	01:26:48
	Are you putting any new services?	01:26:51
	Ever since I haven't gotten any.	01:26:54
	But no, just trying to know.	01:26:57
	Replace domains.	01:27:00
	They're all mostly inch and 1/4.	01:27:01
	To them. So I'll put it in that forest. So it's kind of helping everybody else too.	01:27:03
	You're not dropping question.	01:27:09
	Mr. Poland.	01:27:11
	I know we advertised on my card.	01:27:13
	Something with their services and things they could ever get that going through here.	01:27:17
	I don't know. A while back they had presented.	01:27:22
	That they needed to.	01:27:25
	Like pay for their parts and that we're just way under in that department. Did that ever go through?	01:27:27
	We already got it. Yeah, OK. No, just like the.	01:27:34
	They gave us the great donations and foster connection and stuff that was way low and.	01:27:38
	And the lawyer also told us we were not in a good spot there. Yeah, yeah. And what we did there pretty much just adjusted them to	01:27:42
	where they're pretty much just paying for the parts, correct. Yeah. But before we were under the way.	01:27:49
	I know it at least pays for itself. Yeah, at least.	01:27:56
	Can you explain to me about this $9000?	01:27:59
	That they were talking about that e-mail you got. Can you explain to the council what that's about?	01:28:03
	I'm not too sure how that RNG works, like if we would have to.	01:28:07
	Do anything on our part of the system, any upgrades, stuff like that. Like I don't even know how they'll get it in.	01:28:13
	If they had gold to where we get it from there and.	01:28:19
	From El Paso and Berlin and coming down.	01:28:22
	I don't know if they have.	01:28:24
	Their own separate lines that come in or they would have to.	01:28:26
	So we never signed anything. No, no. I mean, I asked him for a meeting, but I guess he's not going to be back into that guy. I	01:28:29
	don't know, though.	01:28:33
	So I kind of told that already, but he's still kind of persistent.	01:28:37
	But OK.	01:28:43
	One last shot.	01:28:48
	Mayor Council. So we're through our second quarter. So we started our third quarter. We still are working on collections with.	01:28:54
	Turn offs we are.	01:29:02
	Referring people to late than Midwest cap.	01:29:03
	For assistance, but we are working with them and telling them come in, we'll do a plan with you, you know, to make a payment.	01:29:06
	We do have new rates going in.	01:29:12
	February 1st, which is you're asking Joel about the.	01:29:15
	Umm part. So it is going to depending on.	01:29:19
	What the parts cost, you know when it's going to go out to the customers.	01:29:22
	This month is the coldest month of the year, so March bill would be the highest bill.	01:29:26
	But the new rates do go in.	01:29:32
	Now, um.	01:29:34
	Mike got a new garbage truck, a commercial garbage truck, and it is running, so I think he has no backups now.	01:29:36
	Yeah, so and I know these ones are very, it's not a rather.	01:29:42
	Yeah. Oh, it's not.	01:29:46
	And, umm.	01:29:48
	We did hedge gas.	01:29:49
	This year we tried it last year, so we did hedge it and we did compare.	01:29:51
	The cost of.	01:29:55
	The shell and it is lower and the rates are lower than last year.	01:29:57
	What's that? What's the price of gas now?	01:30:02
	We had **** at 384.	01:30:05
	Whether we will be hesitant?	01:30:07
	384 last year.	01:30:09
	What is it at 37?	01:30:13
	No, it is working out. We are comparing, we will look.	01:30:17
	Next month, like I said, it's the coldest.	01:30:20
	Under the year we are working on grants, I did apply for the New Mexico Match grant. I applied for six and I got one which was	01:30:23
	38,000 for the transportation ban.	01:30:28
	And Carlos is ordering that. But everything so behind.	01:30:32
	So hopefully we get it by June 30th.	01:30:37
	And we do still have the ambulances that we're still waiting for and hopefully we get those in July.	01:30:39
	So working on those.	01:30:45
	And that's about it. I do have.	01:30:48
	I did change some positions around a little so we do have some training and accounts payable and in collections.	01:30:50
	I just wanted to tell mayor and council thank you for the rate increases, you know, for across the board. You know, that was	01:30:58
	really helpful and thanks for the committee for.	01:31:01
	Meeting and going over everything with me and the rate increase. Don't you have any questions? You know, we went through a whole.	01:31:05
	You know, we had, we had everything.	01:31:11
	So if you need anything, Marcy did a great job on that, no?	01:31:13
	Anything. Oh, and then I use Living through the Library. It's audiobooks if anybody's ever interested. I love it. You tell Chelsea	01:31:19
	to order you a book and she ordered it. She's great.	01:31:23
	But that's about it for me.	01:31:28
	Real books, Yeah. Audiobooks. You know, if you're traveling.	01:31:30
	If you're walking, it's great.	01:31:35
	Which book do you like?	01:31:37
	I'm reading right now. I'm listening to the Nightingale.	01:31:39
	It's about the Holocaust. It's it's Christian Hannah.	01:31:43
	Well, good. I'm glad you're a book reader listener.	01:31:49
	Great. Thanks. Thanks to the directors for everybody.	01:31:52
	Yeah, never got a chance to speak and we lengthen the meetings, but this time?	01:31:55
	It was worth it to get all the.	01:31:59
	Information from.	01:32:01
	Everybody.	01:32:02
	OK. Any new business?	01:32:04
	Any old business, Miss Chavez? I just have an update on our the Housing Authority's apartments.	01:32:07
	They are almost done.	01:32:14
	We will start training on wait list and start taking applications hopefully.	01:32:16
	The last of April. Oh, congratulations, we should be.	01:32:22
	Furnished opening refresh.	01:32:28
	They're not furnished.	01:32:30
	Can I get him finished?	01:32:32
	Awesome, what a fantastic job you did.	01:32:33
	And just really great.	01:32:36
	No, thank you everybody.	01:32:38
	You know you guys, what are we going to do with our Rd. Lloyd?	01:32:40
	We're in the process of coming up with something. Did you get those extra money? Yes, we did. We got $1,000,000 from.	01:32:46
	Van Lohan, wonderful as you do so. Fantastic job. Great.	01:32:53
	All right, anything. You. You.	01:32:59
	No old old, let's go again. Just real quick. I know I didn't have the exact answer because I can't remember, but I know that the	01:33:01
	Cuba Rd. project was through CBBG.	01:33:05
	We've been working on that for a while.	01:33:10
	And I kind of got an earful from some of the.	01:33:13
	Residents out there.	01:33:15
	As far as completion and then there was some work done over the ditch and some stuff that and I can't remember. I know there was	01:33:17
	something that we were gonna it's done. We've got the money.	01:33:22
	We don't have the money yet. We don't. Last week I sent in some documents they wanted changed because we were awarded supplemental	01:33:27
	funding for that one.	01:33:30
	Because we ran out of money.	01:33:35
	And I sent it to him last week and I'm waiting for them to return it and then we're ready to go, but then they award us the 800.	01:33:36
	Well, supplemental money, it's 1.067 the state shared, then it's 565, and then that's the 125 that you got yourself.	01:33:44
	Yeah, we have the money to finish it. Yes, yeah, I know it's good. It's just trying to get contrary like Monsignor was supposed to	01:33:54
	start.	01:33:59
	Last year.	01:34:05
	So we're just getting it done now.	01:34:07
	We've got the money to finish it. Yes. So we do now. But they wanted all of the agreements in one document. Yeah. Yeah. Well, but	01:34:08
	I mean, that's paperwork. Yes, Sir. Yeah. I knew there was some part, I just couldn't remember exactly where we were at. But it's	01:34:13
	a done deal as far as.	01:34:18
	You just have to get the paperwork done and then we'll.	01:34:23
	Then we already put it out to Bitter is Albuquerque.	01:34:26
	Yeah.	01:34:34
	So tell us. I mean, I just like the same thing we told the story, people.	01:34:40
	We're trying to put together money to finish the project.	01:34:44
	Because everything's coming up 30% more than it normally does. I don't know what's going on with electrical, but every, all the	01:34:46
	contracts are put out.	01:34:50
	Are 30% more than what we have money for?	01:34:54
	So that's the big problem.	01:34:57
	So we're trying to accumulate that money and Donald did a.	01:34:59
	Good job in getting the supplemental money.	01:35:01
	So we're just trying to get that.	01:35:03
	Mr. Puerto, on another topic, I had a.	01:35:06
	That girl come up to me about the.	01:35:09
	Issue of selling food there at Smith's and then.	01:35:11
	She said, well, that a police officer.	01:35:15
	Told her that they can sell there and I told her well you got to have a.	01:35:18
	You know a permit and you gotta ask permission and things like that is it?	01:35:22
	Is that across the board that Smith is not one of our? No, it's not. They show up at 10:00. I don't know. Were you responsible for	01:35:25
	one of those?	01:35:31
	Food vendors by any chance at night showed up at.	01:35:36
	9:00 or 10:00.	01:35:39
	No, but yeah, but there.	01:35:44
	They showed up. I'm every underworld men.	01:35:46
	They showed up and they're cooking, had a little Christmas lights and everything.	01:35:49
	But that lot is not approved for vendors. There's a wood on it. They cook dinner on there.	01:35:54
	Now the only one that's approved.	01:36:00
	Is the uh uh.	01:36:02
	Umm, Baymont.	01:36:05
	But the amount is improved. It's not approved for any vendors though. Nothing, right? OK, the owner has to come to us.	01:36:06
	And get it, it's not a big deal. They can get it approved, but they got to approve it.	01:36:13
	Hope you got a company.	01:36:17
	But uh.	01:36:19
	With the summary report something.	01:36:20
	But but you know these guys, I usually call Chief and he sends his patrol over there.	01:36:26
	Christie.	01:36:32
	RadioShack.	01:36:41
	Automotive.	01:36:44
	Amex Automotive.	01:36:46
	Yeah, MX Automotive, the old quick and easy.	01:36:48
	We have to.	01:36:54
	Got to get it approved through planning and zoning. I guess my it wasn't that the question because I did explain that it's just	01:36:58
	that.	01:37:01
	And she made it sound like it was selected, like some people were allowed there, some people weren't allowed there. So I'm just.	01:37:04
	Speeding pic and I was telling mom selected everybody else is being oven nobody that the answer is nobody right? Nobody's another	01:37:10
	property and then I'd love to sell theirs. They're not going to prove in their site.	01:37:17
	OK, then you know in a way.	01:37:24
	It gets to be a snowball effect sometimes.	01:37:27
	You get one person and then somebody else shows up and then.	01:37:30
	You know, we try to keep, at least try to keep ahead of it.	01:37:33
	Tell me anymore. She's not a restaurant, you know. The other approved site is our own Plaza.	01:37:41
	Yeah, but no. But I mean when.	01:37:46
	You know, again, it's just, I just hate to have random people show up all over town.	01:37:49
	You know, with their little.	01:37:54
	Wagons and drinking money number one. I don't know if they put in gross receipts.	01:37:56
	And #2 if they have.	01:38:00
	If something happens on that lot.	01:38:02
	That God is responsible for it. Who owns the law?	01:38:06
	So yeah, so this.	01:38:10
	It's random. It's me usually who turns them in.	01:38:13
	If you want to know, but it's when I see him, I just call they call our friendly patrolman and.	01:38:17
	They go talk to him.	01:38:23
	So that's that's.	01:38:26
	Who were they from town? Yeah, they're from town. I don't know the girls names.	01:38:28
	Yeah, she's selling food.	01:38:33
	Yes, selling food and then they said they ran off. But then they said that other people are allowed. And I said no. I just don't	01:38:35
	think anybody's allowed that. Maybe they just missed it, is what I said. You know, maybe the ones I talked about like they were	01:38:39
	from like Texas or some places.	01:38:43
	Or Arizona. They just had a little.	01:38:47
	They had the whole 10 yards. I mean, they were cooking up a.	01:38:49
	Hibachi. I mean, it's like.	01:38:53
	And then, you know, then you got vendors selling oranges.	01:38:56
	Then you got vendors selling flags, and you got vendors selling.	01:39:00
	Who knows what?	01:39:04
	You know, so I think that's.	01:39:06
	That's part of the we're trying to just keep.	01:39:07
	Keep a little later on as well.	01:39:10
	Okie, Dokie.	01:39:13
	Anyway, well, we had a long meeting. There's no football games or basketball games or forget everything.	01:39:15
	Anyway, personnel matter.	01:39:20
	Oh, executive session, Miss Charles.	01:39:23
	Anyway and.	01:39:27
	We've got personnel changes, we've got relent.	01:39:28
	V Learner. Oh, we got a new lady police officer.	01:39:32
	She's right. Now she works at the.	01:39:37
	The prison? The county jail.	01:39:41
	She's a new hire and we have Caitlin Garza as a dispatch. Resignation Stephen Silva.	01:39:43
	Senior Center is a resignation.	01:39:49
	Anybody.	01:39:54
	Mr. Mayor, I'll make a motion to accept the personnel changes.	01:39:56
	Discussion.	01:40:00
	Unfair then for businesses we got a models rustic custom cocina.	01:40:01
	Marcia Amaro.	01:40:07
	At 1560 Hope Farms.	01:40:10
	And wait right And detailing and pressure washing.	01:40:13
	Jordan, Jordan Robus, he is a, he's a go getter, so.	01:40:16
	All in favor.	01:40:21
	Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. The next meeting is February 4th.	01:40:23
	S but I guess she learning moderate.	01:40:28
	I didn't bore you. Did I fight against anybody?	01:40:31
	This time, here's Ruth.	01:40:35
	Oh.	01:40:39

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	Councillor Ocampo.	00:00:01
	Councillor Ogin.	00:00:03
	Councillor Partridge here.	00:00:05
	Councillor Romero here.	00:00:08
	Councillor Salomi.	00:00:10
	We do have a.	00:00:12
	In honor of President Trump will all rise into the Pledge of Allegiance.	00:00:13
	Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands.	00:00:19
	One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.	00:00:25
	I invited Bezos and.	00:00:32
	Musk and those they won't come. They won't come to our meeting.	00:00:35
	This They were at the White House, I guess.	00:00:38
	OK, Mr. Romero.	00:00:42
	We approve the consent agenda as presented. Discussion.	00:00:46
	All in favor, aye?	00:00:52
	All right with this.	00:00:55
	Move straight ahead to public forum.	00:00:58
	We've got.	00:01:01
	An honorable representative from the Co-op.	00:01:03
	Come on up.	00:01:07
	He's making the round, so you're very impressed and.	00:01:09
	Happy to have a new.	00:01:13
	Co-op manager come up to the dais and tell us about yourself and.	00:01:14
	How much you're going to help the city of Socorro?	00:01:19
	All right. Well, thank you all for inviting me, first of all.	00:01:22
	Very excited to be here. The welcoming since day one has just been overwhelming.	00:01:26
	The second day.	00:01:31
	On the job, I met with the mayor and his team.	00:01:33
	And there had legitimate questions that should have been asked or should have been answered.	00:01:36
	So this week Thursday I'm meeting with tri-state and then I'll be following up.	00:01:40
	Probably next week when I have more information, but things are looking pretty promising. I have to tell you, I was.	00:01:44
	Very happy to meet you, we had a great discussion.	00:01:50
	And you know you can answer them one way or the other. That's great.	00:01:53
	Thank you for trying to answer them.	00:01:57
	The first question I had from you.	00:02:00
	Was how much was your electric Co-op in Wilcox?	00:02:02
	Sulphur Springs electric charging.	00:02:05
	The last.	00:02:08
	Guy that heads your job.	00:02:09
	I don't know, I just.	00:02:12
	You answered it right away.	00:02:13
	You know, so I'm impressed. I really.	00:02:16
	I hope we continue our relationship.	00:02:19
	And have it grown and we can kind of cancel all the conflicts we've had. But tell us about yourself. And well, I was born and	00:02:21
	raised in Wilcox, Arizona so I'll always call us a non politically correct name. We're weirdos because small town is what we enjoy	00:02:26
	and what we love.	00:02:31
	So when I looked around here, I don't see these big glamorous buildings you see.	00:02:37
	People that know each other, families, homesteading and just small town rural America that we just, you know, you gotta love these	00:02:41
	areas.	00:02:46
	Wilcox is half the size of Socorro.	00:02:52
	But the welcoming of God.	00:02:56
	I didn't even want to go back to Wilcox this past weekend, but I had to get a Social Security card because from the community we	00:02:58
	just did a Toys for Tots.	00:03:02
	With Chief Garcia and two hours and 40 minutes we had the trucks so filled up with toys.	00:03:07
	We had to leave because we didn't have other vehicles to bring because they were out. Toys would have been falling over.	00:03:12
	And then we were able to deliver those, but.	00:03:18
	Anyways, I was born and raised in Wilcox. I spent 30 years.	00:03:20
	At the electric cooperative there in about 20-4 years.	00:03:24
	Ten months in Marine Corps, both reserve and active duty deployed in support of combat operations. Three times Iraq.	00:03:28
	Djibouti, Africa security operations and then.	00:03:36
	The most recent deployment was in Afghanistan 2011 to 2012 for the war in Afghanistan.	00:03:39
	So I'm totally, totally small town.	00:03:46
	And it's just been overwhelming talking to the community.	00:03:48
	Meeting with the BLM.	00:03:52
	Got a meeting scheduled with the.	00:03:54
	New Mexico tech president.	00:03:57
	I believe next week tri-state to talk about the bring your own resources which.	00:03:59
	Again, that should have been answered. That's not.	00:04:03
	That difficult to answer. It's just going to get, you know, get to work on it.	00:04:06
	As far as the relationship.	00:04:10
	Our seven cooperative principle is concerned for the community and as being a trusted partner.	00:04:12
	With entities like the City of the Coral, the mayor and anybody else who needs our assistance.	00:04:18
	So that's what you're going to deliver, so.	00:04:24
	I know the mayor said I didn't make any promises, but I do promise.	00:04:26
	A relationship dialogue and anything we can assist with, we're going to start with yes.	00:04:30
	So please don't hesitate to call us because we want to be involved.	00:04:35
	So we're looking very well, very much forward.	00:04:38
	But I see it's a core electric cooperative that is 34 highly committed.	00:04:41
	Team members there.	00:04:46
	They love their job and they want to be great.	00:04:48
	I'll just tell you they didn't have the best environment. So that is my job to bring that environment and.	00:04:50
	I'm not gonna take no for an answer. You must be happy when you come to work as a core electric call. That happiness should extend	00:04:56
	to the community and when you want to be happy.	00:05:01
	And respect.	00:05:06
	Just love the small communities, it makes it very easy to do.	00:05:08
	Does anybody have any questions that I can answer?	00:05:12
	Let's go again.	00:05:15
	Why do you choose Sakura?	00:05:18
	So I wanted.	00:05:20
	There was 2 choices that I wanted.	00:05:21
	And that was either New Mexico or Texas.	00:05:23
	There was two cooperatives that came open and I interviewed for both of them and both boards.	00:05:26
	Reverting a pianist and wanted me to wait.	00:05:30
	I wanted to keep kind of close to Wilcox and I wanted more of a challenge.	00:05:33
	I was the vice president of Technical services.	00:05:37
	And.	00:05:40
	For my nature, for what I like, I like to be busy. I like challenges.	00:05:42
	Especially when it comes to leadership and serving employees.	00:05:46
	And then that return is great service to the community.	00:05:50
	So my last 10 to 13 years of my career goal which?	00:05:54
	Having deployed and made it back while I lost friends was the epitome of the climax of my life and careers. I thought, I'm done.	00:05:58
	But I said well.	00:06:06
	This is too easy now.	00:06:08
	Who worked? We created great leaders, did a great turnover at the old Co-op.	00:06:10
	I wanted to find a community.	00:06:14
	That I could give the last 10 to 13 years of serving them with all the experience I had and then working with the tight knit team.	00:06:17
	So that's why I selected super and have questions. You're like, hey.	00:06:23
	I don't know if it's you're too ugly or too flashy to stay here and support. You're worried about me leaving, I said. Listen.	00:06:28
	I'm going nowhere.	00:06:33
	You know, there's the board does have a say on it.	00:06:35
	They can tell me, hey, you're out of here or in one year I'm going to approach the employees and ask them.	00:06:38
	Did we accomplish what we said we would in one year?	00:06:43
	And if they say yes we did, then I'm going to say if not, that's that's the only two reasons I would resign.	00:06:47
	Welcome. That's why I chose the call.	00:06:52
	Just the community, First of all, thank you for your service.	00:06:55
	What I just want to know what your.	00:07:01
	Philosophy is on.	00:07:04
	Industrial rates.	00:07:06
	Or attracting maybe some manufacturing companies to come into Socorro? What are your thoughts on on doing something like that?	00:07:07
	Think we got?	00:07:16
	Kind of caught up in that we have a lot of service industry here in Socorro.	00:07:17
	And we know that those service industries can pass the electric rate to their customer.	00:07:21
	But we are looking for a sustainable manufacturing small little business to start. We had one at Solero. They were doing pretty	00:07:27
	good.	00:07:32
	That one kind of went sideways, but what's your what's your thoughts on that so.	00:07:36
	The way that cooperatives are set up, all our tariffs, our rates are filed with the PRC, so it's approved by them.	00:07:41
	So once that's followed on there, it's hard to change those things. It's not impossible.	00:07:48
	So I believe in.	00:07:53
	Economic development on given whatever the coop can assist in, whether it's deposits, whether it's looking at certain models	00:07:55
	aligned or underground free.	00:07:59
	Because if you think about it.	00:08:05
	Although it looks like you're losing money, that's.	00:08:07
	One, you're offsetting some of their initial cost, but also that's going to be members.	00:08:10
	That are hiring people.	00:08:15
	They're going to employ, you know, industrial, you're employing more than one person, so that's great for the economy.	00:08:18
	The PRC and the race we have filed does require us to look at it and if you violate it, you could be in violation of.	00:08:23
	What you actually found, however.	00:08:30
	You don't stay locked to those things. You look and you assess what's going on and if you can make those adjustments to support	00:08:32
	economic growth and you do it.	00:08:36
	It's just the ideas and to know, hey, what's coming in.	00:08:40
	For example.	00:08:43
	There's been a change in the administration, so it looks favorable for natural gas and different things like that.	00:08:45
	You can invest a lot of money or say you you.	00:08:51
	Make some exceptions.	00:08:54
	And it costs a lot of money. And then things change if the administration change in four years, where now they dial it back.	00:08:56
	The coop loses a lot of money when I say Co-op its members.	00:09:03
	So everybody in here most likely lives on Co-op lines. So it's a member.	00:09:06
	Your accounting on the board and us to make those good financial decisions.	00:09:10
	It's no different than a board or something you're doing for the city.	00:09:15
	But we don't want to. I always try to start with yes.	00:09:18
	Take it back and look at it with your tariffs and there's something we need to file and change then.	00:09:21
	You know, we'll take those steps.	00:09:26
	But instead of just saying no or just completely.	00:09:28
	Isolate yourself or.	00:09:30
	Given the appearance that you're not business friendly or economic growth friendly, that's just not the way to be.	00:09:32
	Does that answer your questions? Yes, Mr. Salome, Mr. Gonzalez.	00:09:38
	If you look.	00:09:42
	At the settlement that PRC did.	00:09:44
	I don't know if you looked at last week, the $948,000 yes, no and we don't agree, we don't want.	00:09:48
	Unless it comes out of your pocket, we don't want the, we don't want the users to pay for it. But the but the specifics of that.	00:09:55
	Of that suit.	00:10:04
	But the PRC said, and correct me if I'm wrong, polo or don't.	00:10:06
	They said you need to develop economic rates.	00:10:10
	I don't know if you read it, I read the whole thing, but it said you were supposed to.	00:10:13
	Develop economic rates. So what Mr. Salome is saying, and you said you look into it says you have to do that. Yeah, the PRC is the	00:10:17
	regulators and they said.	00:10:22
	The other thing they said is do you need to give US-led lighting rates? So there are some. Those are the two specific things I	00:10:26
	know they said.	00:10:30
	And that's the suit that they took, the Supreme Court.	00:10:33
	That that said, PRC had no right to tell her what to do.	00:10:36
	Supreme Court said no, that's not true.	00:10:40
	Here PRC sets the rules.	00:10:43
	And they on top of that, they find them over 900.	00:10:46
	Maybe a million to whatever is going to be.	00:10:50
	For not listening to what the PRC said.	00:10:53
	But in that suit, that does say.	00:10:56
	That the club needs to develop economic rates and so I hope you look at that and and.	00:10:59
	Maybe try to develop those. I mean, not that we've got somebody knocking on the door trying to come in and start a manufacturing,	00:11:05
	but.	00:11:07
	But that's one of the things. The LED lighting is another thing, and I have to tell you have been very helpful.	00:11:10
	And I have to thank Mr. Anaya, the Chairman and I, who actually.	00:11:16
	Started that ball rolling by asking for a meeting when I appreciate that.	00:11:19
	I just want to say that that's in the ruling.	00:11:24
	Yeah, I'm currently waiting for the actual hearing, but I received 2 updated documents.	00:11:26
	I read both of them, but tell your lawyers that is gratis from now on. Don't have them make don't have them charge you.	00:11:31
	Because they've done a terrible job, by the way.	00:11:37
	Just to accomplish, first of all, welcome and thank you for your service. How much experience do you have with renewable energy	00:11:41
	and.	00:11:45
	And what are your thoughts on that? We set records in Arizona for renewables that I happen to be the department I have.	00:11:49
	Which was we took over.	00:11:57
	We had a one MW solar on the South end of our service and then a month one MW on the North End.	00:11:59
	And then we just.	00:12:08
	Installed a 20 MW solar and then a twenty MW battery with a brand new substation.	00:12:09
	So we're very familiar with.	00:12:15
	Renewable. So we take the all, all and above approach of renewables.	00:12:16
	Or you have to be careful is.	00:12:21
	They don't fast ramp.	00:12:23
	So for example, the battery stores, it looked just tremendous.	00:12:24
	The technology is not 100% yet.	00:12:28
	For solar you got to have sun.	00:12:31
	And when that sun disappears, you have to have the type of Elmar 6000 units or something equivalent to that that can ramp up	00:12:33
	quickly so you don't lose power.	00:12:38
	You gotta be careful rendering people vulnerable when you're.	00:12:44
	You know, you're maybe going too aggressive on renewables. We know they work. We know they need the sun or wind in that case, so.	00:12:48
	You got to put the perfect studies into them.	00:12:57
	You've got to use the team and it is possible for renewals, renewables.	00:12:59
	And Mr. Let me add something to that.	00:13:04
	You know Chris Martinez.	00:13:08
	Remember Chris?	00:13:09
	Columbus, you know, Chris is.	00:13:12
	From here, his dad used to work for the city. He works for Columbus. Yeah, but he's a he's a manager. No, I'm going to get to	00:13:16
	that. I'm just trying to remind people who he is.	00:13:21
	And did it work for the?	00:13:26
	Here, I'm not sure you remember John Martinez is his brother who does security cameras.	00:13:28
	But Chris is the manager at Columbus Electric.	00:13:35
	Columbus Electric.	00:13:38
	Doesn't supply Deming, it supplies its supplies.	00:13:39
	The pecan orchards and and the and the farming and when he mentioned.	00:13:43
	Bring you on.	00:13:50
	There was a. There was a.	00:13:51
	A program.	00:13:53
	And it's actually sunsetted, I think, so to speak, I have to use that it's sunsetted.	00:13:57
	That you could bring your own.	00:14:02
	Solar.	00:14:04
	Up to 40%.	00:14:06
	To your electric grid.	00:14:09
	So I was talking to Chris about this and what the Columbus Electric did at the time when we actually mentioned it to the on the	00:14:11
	previous manager.	00:14:15
	That perhaps they should look into electric is that he bought 2%.	00:14:19
	Of solar electricity.	00:14:23
	Not that they've built their own solar array.	00:14:25
	But in Tucson, I thought, maybe it's around Tucson, there's a grid.	00:14:28
	That put together 250 megawatts of solar.	00:14:32
	And so he bought 2% of that.	00:14:36
	Through Columbus Electric.	00:14:38
	So that they would supply and what you have to do is you have to bid on how much you'll pick them for the solar.	00:14:40
	And it was a bidding process.	00:14:46
	I can't remember the amount that he paid.	00:14:48
	But that then got integrated.	00:14:51
	Into the electric that he buys and I guess he buys from tri-state also.	00:14:53
	But there was a window.	00:14:58
	That this.	00:14:59
	Passed up and we talked about this to him.	00:15:01
	And the word is bring your own.	00:15:03
	Which means you can bring your own. You can either build a solar plant yourself.	00:15:06
	Or you can buy into a solar.	00:15:09
	That just put it in the grid. Everything goes around in the same grid.	00:15:12
	But he actually bought 2% of them.	00:15:16
	And so that then it got integrated with the rates of tri-state.	00:15:18
	And we had been trying and trying and trying to talk to the.	00:15:23
	The court and the.	00:15:26
	You know, I'm really glad we're talking and you know, his Co-op is like a was it 400 million?	00:15:28
	Yes, the coop that it came from is a $400 million golf.	00:15:33
	And he was the vice president of technology.	00:15:37
	So, you know, I think he comes from a.	00:15:40
	I think and I hope that he comes from a.	00:15:42
	A place where we are looking into innovation.	00:15:45
	Yeah, we actually partnered with schools. This was.	00:15:49
	At that time I was a journal and technician wiring.	00:15:52
	The major services for the solar.	00:15:56
	At the parking lots and multiple schools in southeastern Arizona.	00:15:59
	There's a social economic justice tool that you bring up, Socorro.	00:16:03
	And you can see all the metrics where we meet.	00:16:07
	All these different.	00:16:10
	And I was surprised to come here and not see any of that.	00:16:12
	Because that's free money. I mean, you got to get to work and do it, but.	00:16:15
	It's doable. Other other places are doing it and.	00:16:18
	That's one thing that was disappointed that I didn't see that here, that partnership opportunity.	00:16:22
	So.	00:16:27
	That's what we're going to meet about on Thursday, so I'm hoping I'm keeping my fingers crossed it.	00:16:30
	It's not too late because this morning.	00:16:34
	I haven't validated myself but I heard they were dialing back.	00:16:36
	Some of the.	00:16:40
	Money for.	00:16:42
	You know, renewable.	00:16:44
	And I think it.	00:16:46
	Well, the the you know, on a smaller scale for sure, not businesses or coops purchasing renewable energy.	00:16:49
	You know you if you look around town. We live in a desert and.	00:16:54
	This is one of the few towns you look around in residential you don't see as many solar panels up on roofs that you see in other	00:16:58
	towns that are within 30 to 45 minutes from here.	00:17:03
	And um.	00:17:08
	You know, I've, I've dealt with them quite a bit and I've talked to.	00:17:09
	And I'm in the business of, you know, dealing with homeowners all the time. And when you do your math, and I'm one that did my	00:17:13
	math, but you know, we just, we decided to try to do what we could do to put solar on our home.	00:17:19
	And golly like the amount that we get paid per kilowatt. I don't even, I don't want to quote it, but I did the math a couple years	00:17:26
	back.	00:17:30
	And if it was in it, if it was in Los Lunas or Albuquerque or anywhere S, the amount of credit were actually being paid per kWh,	00:17:34
	whatever that is.	00:17:38
	It's like a. It's like.	00:17:43
	It's like you're penalizing yourself for doing it here. I mean, really? And then to have different rules for commercial buildings	00:17:45
	where there's commercial property owners that want to have solar on their buildings.	00:17:51
	But uh.	00:17:56
	They don't even get a buyback or there's just certain things that I brought up questions and we've just never gotten answers other	00:17:57
	than no. That's how everybody does it and it's absolutely not.	00:18:02
	How everybody does it and I've got homeowners that want it now in town and there's there's contractors that have shown up in	00:18:08
	Sephora. They want to open up businesses.	00:18:12
	That want to do this and then they find out.	00:18:16
	They're not going to lie to the customer when they do their evaluation and they get their bill and they say.	00:18:19
	Yeah. I mean, it's not going to benefit you.	00:18:25
	Like long term, it'll take you 50 years having these these panels up here to break even.	00:18:28
	Whereas if you move 30 miles up north.	00:18:33
	And then for the business owners, you never break even.	00:18:36
	You're just, you're just doing a favor for the.	00:18:39
	For the Co-op and those are a lot of the complaints I had were around renewable energies and I think it was really exciting to	00:18:41
	find out that maybe this is something we can do as a municipality.	00:18:45
	Even if we don't.	00:18:50
	Engage in the business of so of a.	00:18:52
	Electricity if we were to create some sort of like solar pad or something to put in the grid.	00:18:55
	And I know we're still waiting on some of those numbers, but.	00:18:59
	Man, it will be a breath of fresh air to see the Coop us work together the numbers you're talking about.	00:19:03
	And this is just a.	00:19:08
	Round figure Maybe Paula knows better, but they started out at six to seven cents a kilowatt.	00:19:09
	Reimbursement, they kept dropping it, dropping it dropping. I think it's less than half a cent now.	00:19:14
	That they would, you know, pay so.	00:19:19
	That's that's what happened is that although there's some people like I think are.	00:19:21
	Ex representative. She has a.	00:19:26
	Solar on her positive outcomes building and she zeroes out.	00:19:28
	So that which is great. So she's not getting any money, but she zeros out on her electric bill.	00:19:32
	But then she still is paying for the panels that were up there.	00:19:37
	I think what's council accomplished saying is that.	00:19:41
	That dialogue.	00:19:44
	Was just brushed off.	00:19:45
	It just never happened. And so that's we're just giving you that. Thank you for being here. We definitely want to hear. I mean,	00:19:47
	I've been through.	00:19:50
	A number of situations from when it was heavily subsidized.	00:19:54
	And then people put solar.	00:19:58
	And they were told things like, hey, instead of renting your electricity, why don't you own it? And then they were blown away when	00:20:00
	it came time to maintenance on them and.	00:20:04
	That electric.	00:20:09
	Or that solar supplier had, you know, taken off on them.	00:20:11
	Or when they installed their equipment, their inverter burned down, their warranties weren't, so we would get these calls.	00:20:14
	Recreated at the old coop where you can punch in the data and they'll give you an idea.	00:20:20
	For what your return is because remember when solar when it comes on.	00:20:24
	You don't store it, it doesn't store, so it goes back and you'll use at your house as well.	00:20:28
	So the coop doesn't always get everything that it looks like, that's why you have the.	00:20:33
	Delivered and received.	00:20:38
	You know so and the other thing is that.	00:20:40
	Soldier has got to still go on the line, so there is a maintenance. We're using the same lines to return that power on.	00:20:42
	So calls figure that out and go, wait a minute, we're not charging the maintenance the same maintenance that we pay.	00:20:49
	That cost of service that it costs to get from the GNT.	00:20:54
	To the sub transmission to the distribution substation.	00:20:57
	Through the secondary service to either your home or your business.	00:21:01
	So we pay that maintenance fee we discovered in Arizona. So people weren't paying that, so they wanted to go, wait a minute, we	00:21:05
	can't be subsidizing.	00:21:09
	So there's just some, there's a number of situations. The main thing is.	00:21:13
	We'll definitely look at it.	00:21:17
	Mr. Parkinson, just does that answer your?	00:21:18
	Yes, yeah, that's, I mean just having an open dialogue about it. I mean, it works. It works. Why not try to figure out how we can	00:21:23
	make it work for the benefit of the community and those who want it in the environment? I mean, in the environment, absolutely.	00:21:29
	Thank you that good segue from Go to accomplish.	00:21:36
	We talked earlier before the.	00:21:40
	Before the meeting and it's just good to have somebody and all the great questions that they asked. I don't have a question.	00:21:42
	Thanks for your service. I'm glad that we can have dialogue now and hopefully we can.	00:21:47
	Find, get creative and.	00:21:53
	Find ways to potentially bring rates down for customers, or at least.	00:21:55
	Looking at and working within the community, I think a big complaint too.	00:21:59
	That was that the Co-op really wasn't involved in the community. Just even simple things like putting up the Christmas lights or	00:22:03
	helping out with things like that. That was always seemed like a customer was a norm, right. Yeah. I mean that's very poor to me	00:22:08
	that the cough is not involved. I mean that's business as usual. That's it's just good to hear that you know that there's dialogue	00:22:14
	you know you want your.	00:22:19
	You want to be involved with things. I heard earlier that you're involved in your community, so.	00:22:25
	Thanks for being here. We look forward to continued dialogue. Mr. Romero. I'm basically saying the same thing that the two	00:22:30
	councillors before me were saying. It's like.	00:22:34
	We think we're just happy.	00:22:39
	For the open dialogue and.	00:22:41
	Having you be here tonight and.	00:22:43
	Presented the way you presented positiveness.	00:22:46
	And I appreciate that.	00:22:50
	I just want to say thank you for coming and thank you for your service.	00:22:53
	And you and I talked a little bit about deposits and stuff like that. So thank you for having a.	00:22:57
	An open door and stuff for us. Yeah, definitely.	00:23:03
	Have you met all our directors?	00:23:07
	No. Has everybody, has everybody met? Mr. Martinez? Mr. Luceros are.	00:23:09
	Landfill and solid waste and this guy you need to meet because you're going to start a you're going to start a was it not	00:23:16
	Taekwondo? What was it that you're going to?	00:23:20
	You met Mr. Padilla already? There you go.	00:23:25
	And he, yeah. So he, he's, you know, he's a.	00:23:29
	Fitness guy too.	00:23:32
	As you can tell.	00:23:33
	But you got Ruby Lopez, our finance.	00:23:35
	Who's back there?	00:23:37
	And Chris Carrillo, he's our enforcement.	00:23:40
	Christopher Diaz.	00:23:44
	Chelsea Grammar. No Chelsea.	00:23:47
	Chelsea Jones, our librarian. The best library in the state.	00:23:50
	Isaac Angel is our natural gas.	00:23:55
	Steve Madden. Steve Madden.	00:23:58
	Steve, Matthew.	00:24:02
	Is our rodeo and the recreation out there?	00:24:04
	At the.	00:24:08
	Soccer field and working on a transformer with Lloyd on our new stables.	00:24:09
	So let the.	00:24:15
	You know and and.	00:24:16
	Feel free. And you met Paul, he had your job, but I think he's getting a lot less than you're making people, I think.	00:24:18
	And you met Donald.	00:24:26
	Lena.	00:24:28
	So that's, uh.	00:24:29
	That's our crew.	00:24:31
	And we've got another 130 employees.	00:24:32
	And and you know, we always.	00:24:36
	When Mr. and I was around, even.	00:24:39
	Is that we always had a great relationship with the.	00:24:41
	You know, whether it was Christmas lights or whether you needed a backhoe to dig out something and you guys didn't have the	00:24:44
	equipment and.	00:24:47
	With help and and you guys would help us. I mean that's the way it was.	00:24:50
	And then you know the other thing they're talking about, Miss Charles Lopez said.	00:24:54
	You know about about deposits?	00:24:58
	Having to bring your.	00:25:01
	Your warranty deed for the Silda.	00:25:03
	House you know, and whether you own the house and when you're leasing it.	00:25:06
	I mean, PNM, if you're an Albuquerque, just put it on the computer and you got the service.	00:25:10
	Those are the things that were difficult.	00:25:15
	That the public used to come and complain to us about.	00:25:17
	Over and above the rates and stuff. It wasn't just the rates.	00:25:20
	It was more subjective stuff.	00:25:23
	You know, but with your outgoing personality, I know it'll be a big help.	00:25:26
	Just to have.	00:25:29
	You know people many times you're not going to get what they want, but at least they want to.	00:25:30
	Feel that they got listened to.	00:25:34
	I think that's the most important thing. Well, it's about relationships, in my opinion. You know, we're going to.	00:25:36
	And if I'm there 10 to 13 years and maybe longer?	00:25:42
	We have a say on how our relationship is going to be.	00:25:45
	You know you can close your door and not want to talk to anybody in office but.	00:25:48
	I don't believe in leadership from behind a desk.	00:25:52
	And the community is important.	00:25:56
	It's very foreign to hear the things that.	00:25:58
	From the past, because it's something I don't subscribe to, you know, we are.	00:26:01
	We want to be partners with everybody here and we believe in relationships and.	00:26:05
	The 34 employees that are currently there, they feel the same way and they told me these stories of how it felt to be involved in	00:26:09
	the community.	00:26:13
	Most of them are born and raised here.	00:26:16
	I didn't like to do these things about 28 those employees when the previous manager started.	00:26:19
	No longer work there. I've seen a that's one of the first things I asked for when you're trying to give me fluff. I just say let	00:26:24
	me see an HR will notice what's your turnover rate? Let me see the employment turnover rate. That's that's great that you're, you	00:26:28
	know, attacking and.	00:26:33
	We'll hopefully we can talk again after your Thursday meeting and.	00:26:38
	And see what happened but.	00:26:41
	You know, just from the administrative point of view.	00:26:43
	We're still moving ahead with some financing as to what this is going to cost us.	00:26:47
	And whether it's solar is still going to be around when Trump is there.	00:26:51
	The other thing is.	00:26:54
	We are also asking our lawyers, I want to say that in public.	00:26:56
	To continue the process of.	00:27:00
	Upholding the previous manager and the coop trustees accountable for what happened with a large fine that so we're still moving	00:27:03
	ahead.	00:27:08
	As far as the city is concerned on that.	00:27:14
	Forefront shouldn't be any hard feelings, but we feel.	00:27:16
	The way it was done was wrong and that needs to be documented.	00:27:21
	Yeah, I got 2 recent documents that are.	00:27:24
	I got him.	00:27:27
	Was that last Thursday?	00:27:30
	So so PRC is moving ahead.	00:27:33
	And like I said, they wanted us to.	00:27:36
	Our lawyers to go and.	00:27:38
	I don't know what tech is doing, but our lawyer is going to continue.	00:27:40
	The process because we haven't backed off on that.	00:27:43
	But hopefully we have a bright future and that we're in.	00:27:45
	Get along and City is not going to be in the electric business. So hopefully this will come to fruition, but.	00:27:48
	We still have that pressure that we want to try to make the coop.	00:27:54
	Feel that they or we feel that the coop is doing.	00:27:58
	The community service that they should be doing and we got a lot of work to do over there, We're operating off 2011 rates.	00:28:02
	And you know, we're hurting at the coop, but we're going to.	00:28:09
	Stay focused now or down before.	00:28:12
	What's that?	00:28:15
	Yeah. We have not had a rate case since 2011, so you know.	00:28:16
	Just got there too so.	00:28:22
	You guys can get the $0.10? Yeah, they were encouraging about you know, they sent me that from but you know the.	00:28:23
	Sorry to digress, but the bottom line is if the coop would be more efficient.	00:28:31
	And not spend 1,000,000 bucks on legal affairs and spend their time on doing community stuff.	00:28:37
	I mean, you can be saving money.	00:28:44
	And that's my opinion, but.	00:28:47
	I just don't think the coop has been run very efficiently.	00:28:49
	But you know you got.	00:28:52
	I mean, they can say the same thing about the city, but.	00:28:53
	You know, at least we talk about it, but well, my assessment says the same thing and I'm looking forward to.	00:28:56
	Not repeating what has been done. You started the great you started on. Thank you again.	00:29:01
	Can talk to you about Richard Richard Lopez.	00:29:10
	When he was there, when you'll hear little stories about him and.	00:29:13
	And he was, he was a big part of.	00:29:18
	Getting the connection was his position.	00:29:20
	He was an engineer, he was a city councillor.	00:29:23
	Haven't heard that name. They passed away. Oh no, he's passed away and that was tragic. But he was a big member of the community.	00:29:26
	And always looked out for us and he was the engineer.	00:29:35
	OK, Richard Lopez, I'll ask.	00:29:39
	But yeah, yeah.	00:29:42
	Oh oh.	00:29:44
	But anyway, thank you again for coming back. Thank you anyone else. We took up a lot of the public.	00:29:48
	Time, but that was well worth it.	00:29:56
	Anybody else here that's behind the days?	00:29:58
	Someone up if you're not on.	00:30:01
	And he is your business, your business license again and you're still working at it.	00:30:04
	You got any customers? Yes, I.	00:30:09
	I've been doing a lot of door knocking. I had a few.	00:30:12
	Driveways and a few bites on my express the car detailing that I'll.	00:30:16
	That I'm providing, yeah, but.	00:30:21
	My biggest hit is up and coming as soon as this license. If I get there OK, my biggest contract I'll be landing is Walmart.	00:30:23
	And what is?	00:30:30
	There will be Walmart Super Center.	00:30:32
	And.	00:30:35
	The I do the graveyard shift as right now because I gotta get ready for my shift after I'm done here.	00:30:36
	Because of that I've been going back and forth with my HR about.	00:30:42
	The the facilities trash compactor because in hot summer days working.	00:30:49
	Over there in the overnight.	00:30:54
	It reeks. It's pretty much kind of hazardous to be back there breathing that in.	00:30:56
	And.	00:31:01
	I've been struggling across pressure washing as a business.	00:31:02
	And, and it's something that I enjoy doing because I did a lot of.	00:31:06
	Yard work. I've worked for the city, I worked for Emer Tech, I've worked for Solaro Thai. I'm happy that that was brought up.	00:31:10
	And I just been around multiple businesses around here.	00:31:17
	So and.	00:31:21
	Do that for Walmart.	00:31:23
	Yes, I'm a plan to do it for Walmart and it's and being this Walmart is contracted through the law soon as Walmart so I will have	00:31:25
	support and loss in this.	00:31:29
	And I have.	00:31:34
	Further had a discussion with AutoZone and they're up and coming to see if they won't take me on.	00:31:36
	And if I do a good enough job with them, I'll be from Sapporo.	00:31:42
	Student charge to do a microphone. We did that once, didn't we? For the whole city?	00:31:47
	Where we pressure washed all the garbage cans and stuff. It's just a.	00:31:53
	It depended on various like.	00:31:57
	What materials was in the trash cans at the beans if?	00:32:00
	Like if someone has the city dumped, like if they change their oil and they dumped in the blue bands or something.	00:32:03
	It's going to take more consideration so for the environment wise.	00:32:10
	For my chemical saturation for cyber.	00:32:13
	Sodium hypochlorite or.	00:32:16
	Of my other my degrees or something like that, because I got to take mine where agriculture stay.	00:32:18
	Stretch it up. I'm not at the moment for the suction.	00:32:25
	But right now I do a very heavy dilution process, so.	00:32:29
	When I had to flow into the city's gutters.	00:32:34
	It's very dilute, so it's not opposed any.	00:32:37
	Any environmental like risk?	00:32:41
	And my chemical columns that I mainly use is PITA approved because in agriculture because I also.	00:32:43
	Express the detailing I expressed into the city might be interested in.	00:32:51
	Working with them twice a year or so to do the whole.	00:32:56
	City and the dumpsters and stuff, and that's one reason I was happy with Cheryl back there.	00:32:59
	See their sanitation manager.	00:33:05
	It's actually my brother and Rick is boss.	00:33:07
	All right, Yeah.	00:33:10
	Say he's OK or what?	00:33:12
	To him about doing something for the city, if you want to try to get something, I'm happy to bring that forth to the city and	00:33:15
	happy to come here again because I want to express.	00:33:19
	Even the further of my ambition is to.	00:33:23
	For the city, local parks.	00:33:26
	Well we have very little sanitation and COVID and RSV and other as being a father RV is a heavy.	00:33:27
	Issue for young infants and children.	00:33:34
	So I have one of my mobile detail unit is up and going. I would like to request for permission.	00:33:36
	To come to a drive on local parks and.	00:33:43
	Either shut it down for a day, or there's Lloyd Martinez there.	00:33:46
	He's the head of Let's see what you can do.	00:33:51
	But I want to.	00:33:53
	I know you're naming all these.	00:33:56
	Pandemic type stuff.	00:33:58
	Let's not rile the public up here.	00:34:01
	If you want, let me let's do some cultures first and see what you can grow out of.	00:34:04
	Slides and stuff. I mean, I'm not going to promise you anything on that one.	00:34:10
	I think the garbage stuff you can really help us with.	00:34:14
	But talk to Lloyd about our parks and our.	00:34:17
	Our equipment up there and see if there is some.	00:34:20
	Residue of any kind of contaminants of viruses and things.	00:34:22
	But we can, we can maybe do some swabbing and check and see what we got before you say.	00:34:26
	All this stuff is scrolling out there because.	00:34:31
	Oxidation and air actually in the outdoors.	00:34:34
	Helps basically to contaminate a lot of that.	00:34:37
	And I actually understand that, but with also the ongoing.	00:34:41
	Issue that I know with loose animals and.	00:34:44
	With a lot of going on I've been noticing.	00:34:48
	I came very prepared about this. I did nine months of research. So let's let's try a little, let's start small.	00:34:56
	That we can grow the.	00:35:02
	Business, but let's start small and see what Mike about your also would like to also talk to Mr. Salami because I want to also	00:35:04
	extend it to the schools because.	00:35:08
	Well, he's not in this reason.	00:35:13
	Oh, is that one up?	00:35:15
	It's been so many years since then.	00:35:17
	Look back again. But anyway, thank you for your comments. If I could extend it to this evening.	00:35:22
	W9 have you done AW 9 here with the office? Is that what he needs to be a vendor?	00:35:30
	But you only get a WI when you make.	00:35:36
	When you spend money with you, right? Or do we just give them one what we want them to do? We're going to pass at 1099.	00:35:39
	OK, Mr. Mayor, Mr.	00:35:46
	Don't get any more work with. I just wanna say good job. Work hard Jordan, keep you up.	00:35:52
	George, George is on the business registration. So we're gonna, yeah, this is what I was looking for. I was gonna approve it	00:35:56
	though. And just one thing I could also extend to the community for anybody.	00:36:02
	Would like any mobile detailing or their homes, fences, businesses.	00:36:08
	Or it might be I'm the one and the only.	00:36:13
	Person in our county that was doing this business.	00:36:16
	Competition wise.	00:36:21
	The nearest person is in Las Cruces.	00:36:22
	And up north of Rio Rancho and Albuquerque.	00:36:25
	Is there certification for use of your chemicals?	00:36:29
	Because since I'm using the basic computer approved off the shelf of Walmart party.	00:36:32
	Party usage of chemical.	00:36:38
	Nothing commercial grade.	00:36:40
	There's no licenses or permits that is required to me.	00:36:41
	Well, thank you. Thanks for calling.	00:36:45
	I don't mean to underneath like I said, I got a my data or my overnight job with Walmart and the voting father.	00:36:49
	So I gotta cut and go. Thank you.	00:36:56
	Good man, good luck with your.	00:36:59
	Responsibilities.	00:37:01
	Of energy. What is that? What did I promise?	00:37:03
	I think the public really liked the.	00:37:12
	At one time that we went and cleaned up all the garbage cans.	00:37:15
	With my.	00:37:19
	Remember that, Mike? Yeah, I think they like that and even the dumpsters at the commercial is maybe give them a service like that.	00:37:23
	I think that would be a good thing.	00:37:27
	Yeah, Yeah. Enrique, see how he's doing over there.	00:37:34
	So.	00:37:37
	We did that in the summertime when all the flies.	00:37:41
	I think the people like that.	00:37:44
	Anyway, anybody else?	00:37:46
	Nobody.	00:37:49
	We are going to go to the ordinance for the. I don't know what CWSRF stands for, but.	00:37:51
	Donald does. What does that stand for?	00:37:56
	Clean Water State revolving funds, that's what it is. How much money are we talking about? It's an additional 750,500 thousand to	00:37:59
	grants two 50s alone.	00:38:03
	So we'd like to action on that.	00:38:08
	Mr. Make a motion when you pass ordinance #24-12-17 Second.	00:38:11
	So moved and seconded and Lloyd, that gets us to the end of Spring Street.	00:38:17
	Up into the hill.	00:38:23
	OK, so that that really?	00:38:25
	That's the.	00:38:29
	Last area does not have sores in our city.	00:38:30
	We started this project maybe 15 years ago then.	00:38:33
	Starting off.	00:38:37
	Harold Drive. But this is the end of that.	00:38:38
	Roll call please.	00:38:41
	Councillor Chavis Lopez.	00:38:43
	Concert game.	00:38:46
	Councillor Ocampo, Yes.	00:38:48
	Counsel again. Yes. Councillor Partridge. Yes. Councillor Romero. Yes. Councillor Salami, Yes.	00:38:50
	Passes.	00:38:57
	OK, now the LGRF terminate change.	00:38:59
	We're asking This is the local government's road fund, Donald.	00:39:04
	Yes Sir, initially we were awarded 200,000 I believe for the streets over by Tech.	00:39:08
	Will you work with the contractor and got a quote and?	00:39:16
	Was actually under what we were funded.	00:39:19
	So as we.	00:39:22
	Working around the courthouse.	00:39:24
	Lloyd requested that we move this money to include some other streets over there. So that's what we're asking the dot to do is.	00:39:26
	Mean the additional streets in this grant.	00:39:33
	Make a motion to pass resolution #25-01-21A.	00:39:37
	Second moved and seconded discussion.	00:39:42
	All in favor, aye. Now we're going to adopt the City of Sakura Aging Services Program Policy Manual.	00:39:45
	Why is that Linda not here?	00:39:52
	Anyway, Lina.	00:39:54
	Adding a code of conduct.	00:39:58
	For the senior centers, we have issues with some of the seniors when they get a little riled up. We need to be able to.	00:40:01
	Not allow them to attend for a while.	00:40:10
	So all we're doing is adding a code of conduct.	00:40:12
	Motion passed. Resolution #25-01-21B.	00:40:16
	2nd so moved and seconded discussion for you guys left.	00:40:22
	As a code of conduct.	00:40:26
	We'll get that for the we'll get that for the City Council, too.	00:40:29
	The man.	00:40:33
	So we.	00:40:37
	You know, with the senior programs going great, Vegeta is going great.	00:40:38
	But we have occasionally.	00:40:42
	Some disturbances from the employees.	00:40:44
	Which is I guess when you have employees that happens.	00:40:47
	And we want to, we want to make that, you know, especially when you're dealing with seniors.	00:40:51
	So we're.	00:40:55
	Want to make sure that we.	00:40:56
	We have that in place.	00:40:57
	All in favor.	00:40:59
	I want to present the Council with a proposal.	00:41:02
	To acquire the Hefner gravel pit on Lopezville Road.	00:41:06
	Reason being and I won't disclose the amount, but it's.	00:41:09
	Within the appraisal.	00:41:13
	Of 137,000 or so I think.	00:41:15
	That's the appraisal.	00:41:18
	Two things. One of them, I've always wanted to develop a water park.	00:41:20
	Ruidoso has it, Deming has 1 Santa.	00:41:26
	Santa Rosa has a nice.	00:41:29
	But #2 that came to mind was.	00:41:32
	The Conservancy needs a overflow.	00:41:35
	Area, uh.	00:41:39
	For their ditches.	00:41:40
	They say when they get flash floods.	00:41:42
	They have so much water coming in from the arroyos.	00:41:45
	Into the ditches.	00:41:48
	That they need to.	00:41:49
	Remove some of that water and that would be a perfect spot. Look, can you tell us a little bit about what they said?	00:41:51
	Come on up.	00:41:57
	Well, that all that water there comes to that.	00:42:04
	To the ditch there, right above.	00:42:07
	From middle school and.	00:42:09
	They would help to relieve water that comes to Sakura and just backs up so when it gets to Sakura it comes into the ditches into	00:42:12
	Socorro.	00:42:16
	And then you have the outlet over there on Hope Farms Rd. crossing. The railroad tax is too small of an outlet.	00:42:19
	So everything backs up into Socorro.	00:42:24
	They're saying if we.	00:42:27
	Require that the gravel pit and drop.	00:42:29
	Some water there, it would help out with the flooding in the coral because and the median that we had with the Conservancy.	00:42:31
	They want Sakura to have to be able to hold water for the 100 year flood.	00:42:38
	And which we really can't, so this would be a big value for that.	00:42:43
	Because.	00:42:47
	They actually want us to pump water that plants, it's a coral to the river.	00:42:49
	Because the Conservancy can't. Their facilities can't handle 100 year flood either.	00:42:53
	So this would really help out.	00:42:59
	And showing that we're gonna, we're helping out to stop some of that water, I mean, because otherwise.	00:43:00
	I mean, where are we going to plant water and you know, in the last 1520 years?	00:43:07
	We've developed a lot of ponds.	00:43:11
	That we don't have the flooding like we used to.	00:43:13
	But those ponds are emptied into irrigation ditches by active pump.	00:43:15
	Now, if there's already water coming through those ditches, they're not going to let us pump that into that into those ditches.	00:43:20
	So it's kind of a twofold thing is to have a.	00:43:25
	Trying to develop a recreation area.	00:43:28
	And also have something so that. So I'm putting that on as a discussion and.	00:43:31
	If the Council would allow me to go ahead and try to go.	00:43:37
	Negotiate the price with Mr. Hefner.	00:43:40
	I would appreciate that. I mean there's any.	00:43:43
	And we had the money. We've done fairly well with our gross receipts.	00:43:46
	So I just think if we could go ahead and do that, I think it would be good.	00:43:50
	No deal. What happened?	00:43:54
	We're still talking about economic development money. I'm going to give you that. It's going to come out of reserves.	00:43:58
	You know, and I'm not gonna.	00:44:06
	Tell everybody about this but.	00:44:08
	Keep it to yourself. We're about a million. We're about a million to over what our projections were.	00:44:09
	A million, too.	00:44:15
	This is 6 months.	00:44:17
	Told Mr. Hello.	00:44:19
	Slowly conservative will help.	00:44:22
	They help with the channeling of the water and then the pumping station.	00:44:24
	Right. Or how was it OK?	00:44:29
	Gravity, OK, you know how the ditches so there's no compensation and you wouldn't pump it out, it stay there, but that would help	00:44:32
	us to channel it.	00:44:36
	We're not. I mean, they're going to develop a conduit and all that stuff like that together with them. They put a turn out. Of	00:44:41
	course they would build a turn out. They could turn out and.	00:44:45
	Put a gate to stop it and they were diverted in there and it would either be an open channel or it would be a covert to the	00:44:50
	bottom.	00:44:53
	But that plan, there was number there. It couldn't have enough water to fill that pond up.	00:44:57
	Mr. Mr. Earlier Well wasn't there talks of that that that area being for the for the Eagle pitcher cleanup pump the water from	00:45:03
	that.	00:45:07
	That's, that's the secret #3 that's, that's we get our money back.	00:45:11
	You know, since you brought it up.	00:45:18
	We've been working with the environmental department for, God knows, 15 years on this project.	00:45:21
	And they finally designed where they're going to pump all that water out of the ground into.	00:45:26
	And that was a pond.	00:45:31
	And so then we will workout. And what they offered was that if we owned a pond.	00:45:33
	They would help us for gratis.	00:45:39
	To develop a landscaping scheme.	00:45:41
	And and maybe a camping ground type of thing. Not that they would do it, but they would develop the plans for it.	00:45:44
	And that's what I would hope. And then we would have.	00:45:50
	You know, kayaks or you know, I don't know if you've been out to Santa Rosa, but they have this fantastic how they have.	00:45:52
	They have stuff really, a lot of water toys and.	00:45:57
	People you know, it's a good recreation area.	00:46:00
	Because they wanted to put into our city sewers and there's no way we can handle it at the plant, you know, for 20 years. There's	00:46:03
	no way.	00:46:06
	And then they didn't want to pay us for what it would be worth.	00:46:09
	And then when they put into our water system, who wants water that?	00:46:12
	That's contaminated and cleaned up and then put into our system. We don't want that either. That is, yes.	00:46:15
	And we're working with them.	00:46:21
	But that's whether they do that or, you know, I don't know what their timetables tell you, frankly.	00:46:22
	But this other thing came up.	00:46:28
	As far as because we are.	00:46:30
	We are duty bound to the Conservancy.	00:46:33
	About the overflow of water.	00:46:38
	And when we did Bullock.	00:46:40
	They asked us to hold bullets, water.	00:46:42
	So then we run that on the street right now.	00:46:45
	So you know that that's this is kind of a.	00:46:48
	Trying to get a working relationship with a Conservancy.	00:46:52
	On this, they do have a they have they have a terrible time when they got a flash flood. Sometimes they even wash out the ditches.	00:46:55
	And so they want to take that pressure off.	00:47:02
	Mr. Portage.	00:47:04
	Similar to the the area by the scroll Gonzalez schools that holding on there. How's the city like protect itself or something like	00:47:06
	that's going on? Just just out of curiosity from my end, like if if we pumped a bunch of water into there and we own that land.	00:47:13
	God forbid something say that again, I'm not sure.	00:47:20
	Like as far as if we're going to divert water into that area, and that's a privately owned area right now, somebody's liable for	00:47:23
	that, that that drains into the ground.	00:47:27
	You're talking about that. You're talking about the, the this, if there's like a large amount of water in there, do we?	00:47:32
	At that point, we're going to assume the liability for that.	00:47:40
	I don't think we can ever fill that that sure. Or I mean, even if it's a large amount and there's something though, because people	00:47:42
	are using that, I'm not opposed to it. I think it's a good idea. And at the at the at the gravel, at the gravel pit. Yes, Sir.	00:47:48
	I don't think you can almost throw that whole area that no, no, not overflow it, just if they're standing water in that area or	00:47:55
	something having water now.	00:47:58
	Water table but we don't own it.	00:48:02
	No, no, no. But in the future we want to do is clean it up is put up a fountain.	00:48:04
	And have that water cleaned up that way. Yeah, Yeah. No, no, you're right. It's not going to be standing.	00:48:09
	It's not going to be standing that brackish water. First of all, if you want to look at the five year plan for this.	00:48:15
	Won't be around for that.	00:48:21
	Maybe so. Maybe I like, but that needs to be dredged. That whole grout, that whole pit needs to be dredged. Sorry, Marianne, You	00:48:23
	could. I'm sorry.	00:48:27
	No, but the five year plan would be initially dredged.	00:48:34
	There needs to be a fountain to aerate the water.	00:48:38
	And then we start working on like, yeah.	00:48:40
	Yeah, should not be standing water anymore. Just to say when they we had the meetings and have you pumped into that thing for 20	00:48:43
	years.	00:48:47
	You pumped water 24/7 for 20 years. You would only raise it 2 feet.	00:48:51
	Because it goes into the Aquaphor.	00:48:56
	Raise it up two feet. Yeah, in 20 years. But. But you're right about the standing water and the brackishness. Yeah, it's just	00:48:59
	nasty.	00:49:02
	Because there's mattress, there's people, people come by and dumped all kinds of stuff in there.	00:49:07
	Mr. Sloane, well, you got the right guy on the job because Lloyd used to get stuck at the gravel pits every week back in back in	00:49:11
	London.	00:49:15
	Plays real well.	00:49:19
	With A6 iron or.	00:49:22
	No. OK, but anyways there's no.	00:49:28
	Nothing that the Council would. I'd like to, I mean, I'll bring it to you, but.	00:49:31
	I just brought that up.	00:49:35
	OK. Thank you.	00:49:37
	Very good. And then?	00:49:39
	We have what?	00:49:43
	Committee reports We've met committees. Mr. Chavez Lopez.	00:49:45
	On the animal shelter we're going to meet.	00:49:49
	The January 27th at 11:00 at the Council Chambers.	00:49:52
	And who are the two people that you want to appoint from the public?	00:49:58
	I was sitting in the audience, no noise.	00:50:06
	Well, I got a chance to have an appointment and has it re ended Viceli Viceli.	00:50:17
	Ben Vaselli.	00:50:23
	And.	00:50:26
	Miss Tevis. So the county of the county, if the county, if the City Council, would approve those two.	00:50:27
	As an addition of the public members of that committee.	00:50:34
	Make a motion.	00:50:38
	2nd.	00:50:40
	And all in favor, aye.	00:50:42
	The Planning and Zoning Committee.	00:50:44
	We're actually meeting tomorrow.	00:50:46
	They're actually meeting tomorrow.	00:50:47
	Did you guys form another committee?	00:50:49
	When you're gone next time.	00:50:55
	Gone on the 4th but.	00:50:58
	If you want to, we can I can forward you the article from the Santa Fe, NM.	00:51:01
	About the animal shelter.	00:51:05
	Is a fairly fair. It was fair.	00:51:07
	And then I have some updates.	00:51:09
	On the.	00:51:12
	Shelter also.	00:51:13
	I don't see Lupe out there, but.	00:51:15
	There's some updates as far as.	00:51:17
	Us working with Albuquerque to help us adopt.	00:51:19
	Animals.	00:51:22
	And then, then whatever the committee comes up with.	00:51:23
	We will then look and see if we can't implement that.	00:51:27
	Mr. Abbas and then on the Police Oversight Commission.	00:51:31
	I have one.	00:51:35
	One committee member that I'd like to appoint.	00:51:38
	Peggy Lopez. And that's on the northeast quadrant.	00:51:41
	And I still need.	00:51:45
	One for the SE quadrant.	00:51:46
	Northwest quadrant and the southwest quadrant. So if anybody is interested.	00:51:49
	4-3 more. I need three more because they all expired. So, Mr. Mayor.	00:51:54
	Is she talking? The Police Oversight Commission is already full.	00:52:00
	They all expired.	00:52:05
	Huh. They're all expired.	00:52:06
	From what I saw.	00:52:09
	The last appointment, Lopez and then we can look and see who the other three are that we need to be reappointed.	00:52:10
	From when I thought of them, they resigned. No, they didn't resign. They were just.	00:52:17
	If we're asking if they want to be reassured if the council agrees to appoint Peggy Lopez.	00:52:22
	So moving to secondary appointment, Mr. Peggy Lopez from the North.	00:52:33
	East Corner Hall of Fame, all right.	00:52:37
	Police oversight committee is important because that's where.	00:52:41
	It's a third party committee that looks at any kind of police.	00:52:43
	Overreach.	00:52:48
	And what else?	00:52:50
	OK, I got all the department directors that wanted to come came.	00:52:52
	So whether we give them a chance to say their piece, Steve, come on.	00:52:55
	You haven't spoken for a long time.	00:52:59
	Let us know what's going on if it's kind of dormant out there, but.	00:53:01
	You know, how's the grass and all that good stuff.	00:53:04
	The new state? How about the new the new stables that are coming up?	00:53:09
	Yeah, the 30 new stables are coming along real nice.	00:53:13
	That'll be a big help of these larger rodeos coming up.	00:53:17
	In April. So when is that happening?	00:53:20
	April, it will be April 16th and 17th. The high school will be back early. Wonderful. Mr. Partridge, we haven't been in there for	00:53:23
	an event to see what the sense of society would have been like. Did you see a difference in there? Do you know? The same big	00:53:28
	difference? Yeah. You know, we have some really windy days out there as you get closer towards the metal. Just really just calm.	00:53:33
	Huge difference. Great. And we're getting a.	00:53:38
	Price for the sound.	00:53:44
	Which is going to get done.	00:53:46
	That's that's the next step.	00:53:48
	And we're not using them for the graduations again this year.	00:53:50
	That's up to the high school in tech. I don't know what's going on.	00:53:53
	It's on the senior week calendar that came out today that they are using the yeah, I didn't know if they were there anymore.	00:53:58
	Lloyd is working on doing the.	00:54:05
	RV Park.	00:54:08
	Showers and.	00:54:15
	Concession areas getting built also is getting done.	00:54:16
	There will be done.	00:54:20
	Anything else extra maintenance, A lot of painting inside and around the arena, doing a lot of extra.	00:54:22
	And is your equipment?	00:54:27
	Trying to stay warm today.	00:54:30
	Of both tractors and Justice One.	00:54:32
	All tractors are working great and I've been used currently, but they're both working great.	00:54:34
	Sounds good, Chelsea, you got all kinds of stuff up here.	00:54:39
	What's going on?	00:54:42
	This for me and everybody else AT Shirt.	00:54:47
	Oh my goodness, I only had a couple left so they sold out three.	00:54:49
	But I brought you bags. Constellation price.	00:54:55
	Yes, we've been really busy. We had our 100th year celebration. Unfortunately, like I said, we ran out of shirts, but.	00:54:59
	Take a look, they're pretty neat.	00:55:05
	So some updates are building. We're waiting on a quote to replace the encounter. It hasn't been.	00:55:08
	Replaced since it was put in so it's pretty worn out. We check out a lot of books, which is a good thing.	00:55:13
	The Friends of the Library is going to provide the funds for that project.	00:55:19
	City administration's been working with me to secure funds to update the elevator. The equipment obsolete, so it's definitely	00:55:23
	something we need to update.	00:55:27
	We're looking at repairing some stucco damage and water leaks to the porches.	00:55:32
	And received 2 quotes so far through Firebirds. Quote was 40,000 but they're only doing the stucco.	00:55:38
	Robert Rinconis, who's a local contractor. He quoted 42,000.	00:55:45
	But he'll also repair the porches that.	00:55:50
	And then I'm waiting for my brothers. That was recommended by Marianne, I believe.	00:55:53
	They're working with you.	00:55:57
	Staff changes personnel. We have Nelda Silva, she's going to start as a library assistant through the WILD program. So that's a	00:55:59
	program to help.	00:56:03
	People train and come back into the workforce, so we're excited about that.	00:56:07
	We have two openings in addition to that. We'll be interviewing tomorrow.	00:56:11
	Circulation assistant and youth service assistant, We had 14 applicants, so.	00:56:15
	We're excited about that.	00:56:19
	Programming I've attached our calendar for the kids room. The Winter Reading program ends this month, the 31st of this month.	00:56:21
	So get get into, finish those challenges. We have some kids really reading a lot of books, so they're getting prizes and they're	00:56:30
	also getting prizes for finding a golden ticket in a book.	00:56:35
	I also attached the adult calendar. I won't go through all of the programs, but we're still doing meditation yoga.	00:56:42
	Literacy is going really well, I'm doing GD tests every week.	00:56:48
	We have an ESL beginner and intermediate classes twice a week.	00:56:52
	We also do ESL, GED and reading.	00:56:56
	We're also working in the detention center twice a week.	00:57:00
	And I do want to bring up that we lost an advocate to that program, Vanessa Garcia.	00:57:04
	Was a huge supporter of the literacy program we've been in there.	00:57:09
	About two years and so I do want to give condolences to her family.	00:57:13
	She'll be greatly missed.	00:57:17
	Love your library, Kendall.	00:57:20
	Ask Cheyenne to call the hospital.	00:57:25
	Because they wanted to use the Convention Center for services and reception.	00:57:27
	Stefani Sartre.	00:57:31
	Thanks for reminding me and I have a lot of volunteers who will be willing to donate to cover the cost of the rental. Like I said,	00:57:34
	she from day one, she supported our outreach in there and we have people that are coming.	00:57:40
	Out of detention and finishing their GD and she's part of that, so she's gonna be great news.	00:57:46
	Tax help starting Wednesdays.	00:57:53
	February 5th through April 9th.	00:57:56
	Again, we do that every year, free tax preparation. We bring a lot of money back into the community and it's a free program. It's	00:57:57
	a lot of fun. If you ever get a chance to come by the library on a Wednesday, it's busy.	00:58:02
	Love your library campaign? In February, we're gonna accept admissions.	00:58:07
	We do that every year and then I've also provided some.	00:58:11
	Just financial information, we're getting some money back from the workforce 6728 from that program, GED testing, I get $10.00 for	00:58:16
	every test I administer. So if it adds up.	00:58:22
	What happened?	00:58:29
	It's going really well. Yeah, we've.	00:58:37
	Exceeded expectations for this fiscal year.	00:58:39
	Within the first few months, so it's quite a need.	00:58:43
	In the community.	00:58:46
	Umm, who has a friend's, a library say anything to you about their new digs? They're very excited, yeah.	00:58:48
	He don't think they're too excited.	00:58:57
	Be more excited with Lloyd.	00:58:58
	Really. Well, that work. I mean, they've done a nice job putting that together. No. Yeah, it looks really good. So thank you,	00:59:00
	guys. They're they're happy. Yeah. It's gonna be it's gonna be a move. Actually, some of the Rice participants through the	00:59:06
	detention center are gonna help move the books. So it's a good collaboration.	00:59:11
	But yeah, they did. They were happy with it.	00:59:16
	And then, yeah, we have some Joe Bond funds coming. Like I said, literacy, we were increased to 41,000, which is a huge increase.	00:59:20
	So that was based off of the participation in the community so.	00:59:26
	Any questions?	00:59:32
	I just want to say, Chelsea, thank you for everything you do. You've done a tremendous.	00:59:34
	Job in your position so I want to say thank you thank you it's a great community I mean it can be a better place to work so.	00:59:41
	That's the kind of library.	00:59:48
	Do you want to fill us in on anything except the drainage?	00:59:51
	When they're going to break ground, what's going to happen in Montana? What's going to happen?	00:59:59
	It's already started.	01:00:05
	So I don't know you guys passed by there, they have all the.	01:00:06
	Barricades up and.	01:00:10
	For the most part, most of the businesses are fine.	01:00:12
	And we had one little trouble with one, but I mean the fact is going good. Just been so cold so they can.	01:00:15
	They can't pour any concrete so.	01:00:21
	We're still doing work. We're going to redo some lighting there, some conduits for lighting in there. We locate some fire hydrants	01:00:23
	and.	01:00:27
	We took down all the trees at the coop and we're going to put up a.	01:00:31
	I'm thinking 4 new ones.	01:00:34
	Four or five, we're not going to put too many trees back.	01:00:36
	And then we have, like the mayor said, the welcome center up there. We're going to, I need a few more quotes. We'll be starting	01:00:39
	the bathrooms and the showers and.	01:00:43
	That area there. So we'll have that done before by the spring, easy.	01:00:46
	By the spring we have the studio park the lighting project.	01:00:50
	All the all the tensions done, they're putting conduits, we'll have the lights up and working by.	01:00:54
	The middle to the end of March.	01:00:59
	So then before the first game, the high school game will have the lights should be will be running.	01:01:03
	They're mobilizing this week for the sewer project, so they'll be.	01:01:10
	Doing working on the sewer on Evergreen starting on Evergreen going West.	01:01:14
	Next week, so they'll be the sewer projects going to start.	01:01:18
	We haven't found nobody for the sewer plan yet.	01:01:22
	So we had some bids in. There was almost two million, $2,000,000 more than we had.	01:01:25
	So we're trying to get some more bids working with people trying to.	01:01:30
	Get that project going. We move money over there over a million and a half and we still don't have enough.	01:01:34
	They were at 2.8 million and still not enough.	01:01:39
	So I'm still working on that. The plan kind of is in bad shape.	01:01:42
	So I mean that project has to get moving forward.	01:01:46
	And what else do we have? What is going on in Finley? How do you don't Finley still we're we had some help from the county. We're	01:01:50
	working on all the grading. So we're going what's going to happen, if any, is we're going to finish the whole outside.	01:01:55
	So we're going to finish the whole, we're going to finish the parking lot, we're going to finish the playground, we're going to	01:02:01
	stuck with the building, put the storefront doors in, put the curb and gutter.	01:02:05
	Sidewalks, we're going to get all that done.	01:02:09
	And then we get more money, then we're going to work on the inside, but we're going to get that outside finished and then Donald	01:02:11
	will look for money to.	01:02:14
	Get the Park St. paved from.	01:02:17
	McCutcheon to Spring Street.	01:02:20
	So we're going to move on that and then since, uh.	01:02:23
	Albuquerque asphalt the town. I want to get a price for the sidewalks in Sherman Gutter while they're here.	01:02:26
	So that project's moving along and we're going to start the storm drain.	01:02:31
	This week probably start the storm won't because we got to do some work at the flood control.	01:02:35
	So the guys that are working there and.	01:02:39
	We got to do some work at the bridge.	01:02:42
	They're coming in by an Eagle pitcher.	01:02:44
	So and then when we get a chance, we'll get into the.	01:02:46
	The flood control, the street department, we need to clean that foot flood control again.	01:02:49
	So I mean, we got a lot of stuff to get done this winter before the weeds start, so.	01:02:53
	Well, since we got a new police chief.	01:02:57
	What's going on at the Police Department?	01:03:01
	No, I mean Lloyd, tell us what you did with the architects and stuff. You guys are using the new.	01:03:03
	Yeah, also.	01:03:09
	We're going to close in, I think they wanted to close in one of the offices there, right. So we all that we have one meeting and	01:03:11
	I'm scheduling another one. So they have a basic plan of what they want.	01:03:16
	What Angel wants there, and they have. They're gonna close in that Sally port. I don't know what it is, but.	01:03:21
	It's like where they you know what that is?	01:03:26
	Just yeah, to accept prison.	01:03:30
	But then did they also want to?	01:03:36
	Office that was, that was.	01:03:38
	What was they were going to? Did you talk to them about getting a Carpenter or a Rinconus or somebody to close it in so you have	01:03:41
	some?	01:03:44
	Security there now. You'll be closed in Sally. You'll drive your car in there. That's not the Sally port I'm talking about.	01:03:48
	Oh yeah.	01:03:58
	Yeah. Well, that's I think that's what we're.	01:04:01
	So the judge typing, we're gonna have another meeting and the judge is gonna be there in Angel.	01:04:05
	Did your wrestling move out of there now?	01:04:09
	We got a couple things left. You guys use that at all for physical activity?	01:04:12
	Oh, good. OK.	01:04:18
	That's what's happening. No, I just wanted to.	01:04:20
	Did we decide on a meeting for Finley?	01:04:24
	I gotta get Dave has some dates and so I'll get that out tomorrow.	01:04:28
	So if you talk to our delegation.	01:04:32
	Those are our priorities.	01:04:34
	Police station.	01:04:38
	And Finley.	01:04:39
	To finish filming.	01:04:41
	But I asked.	01:04:42
	Since you're the drive by there and it looks so bad.	01:04:44
	I asked him to spend the money.	01:04:47
	Making it look nice. Put it in the park. Put in the park.	01:04:49
	Parking, landscaping, and then we can work on the inside.	01:04:52
	So that that that's.	01:04:56
	The reason why? I just wanted to bring that up.	01:04:57
	And we're trying to fix the street so library and all that area is all fixed up.	01:05:00
	Because if we wait, it's going to, you know, it's better to get that street done and just.	01:05:04
	We've done some work here in this habit. All nice.	01:05:08
	Thank you.	01:05:12
	Mike Lucero.	01:05:13
	You're coming up next.	01:05:16
	Council report from the landfill is.	01:05:25
	As is as usual.	01:05:29
	How many times are you getting in? Do you know we're getting close to 100 tons of.	01:05:32
	100 tons of you.	01:05:37
	And they're recycling as everybody wants to know about recycling. What's the, what's the story? What are you accepting?	01:05:40
	Except cardboard used oil.	01:05:47
	Appliances. Tires.	01:05:51
	Please and do you pick up any?	01:05:53
	Look up cardboard on Tuesdays and Thursdays from some of the businesses for the public know we are doing that.	01:05:57
	We are doing it, yes.	01:06:03
	Can we talk about what we're doing with the old?	01:06:04
	Motel. Is that for recycling?	01:06:09
	That was a, that was a It is for recycling, but right now they're using as a staging for men's and arms, however.	01:06:14
	They they had a grant.	01:06:25
	What is it $5000?	01:06:27
	And I thought.	01:06:29
	For $5000, they're going to get these nice recycling bins. I mean, I'm talking.	01:06:31
	Big recycling for paper and cardboard and.	01:06:36
	And aluminum.	01:06:40
	And they get this little bitty miniature.	01:06:41
	Recycling canisters for $5000.	01:06:43
	I couldn't believe it.	01:06:49
	You know, I don't even see I barely do things.	01:06:51
	It's embarrassing about.	01:06:56
	Bear something. I mean, I wanted to what I wanted to do.	01:07:00
	Was to have a drop off where you could drive in. Just drive out.	01:07:04
	And the other thing we talked about was food trucks.	01:07:08
	But I thought we were going to get this grant for $5000. We're going to get these.	01:07:12
	Big itty bitty miniature.	01:07:17
	I mean, it is embarrassing.	01:07:21
	So, but that's what it's, that's what's going on there, but in that nook.	01:07:23
	I wanted to build a recycling drop off.	01:07:26
	But take that and put some dollhouse. I mean, it's like.	01:07:30
	It's big of us being here. Maybe she is really embarrassed.	01:07:37
	But but maybe they're going to be 50,000, I don't know because that was $5000 worth.	01:07:40
	But that that's what wanted to do is there is to build that.	01:07:45
	And uh.	01:07:48
	But right now they're using a staging for the.	01:07:50
	For the street project.	01:07:53
	But I would I would like for you to talk to that gentleman to.	01:07:57
	To see if we can't at least get twice a year.	01:08:00
	If he's got a service, but I think you got to be able to suck that water out. You can't just dump it on the road. I don't think	01:08:03
	you can dump it on the road. That's why it didn't work for us because.	01:08:07
	When you clean something like that, you got to suck it out and put it in another.	01:08:12
	You can't just at the wastewater plant, Yeah, so.	01:08:16
	Well, no, but I mean.	01:08:20
	Don't put in the storm sewer.	01:08:22
	Hello, Mr.	01:08:25
	All right, tell us about your new equipment and see if anybody's working out. And then I heard tech was going to charge their	01:08:27
	employees.	01:08:30
	For the gym facility so.	01:08:34
	We're offering them our facilities, $10 a month they offered them.	01:08:37
	A lady called me and she said she was pretty upset the thing will start charging so we got like 5 new faces that showed up today.	01:08:42
	Umm, city employees have been quite a bit. Fire departments been going, yes.	01:08:50
	Julio's been going on his break to go workout, so it's been going. Who does?	01:08:57
	Julio Miguel.	01:09:02
	From the landfill you've been going to workout too.	01:09:04
	So it's been going good, basketball's been going smooth, no issues.	01:09:07
	Around 2:10 or 2:12.	01:09:12
	And then just met with Dana for the Arts Party on February 8th.	01:09:15
	So that'll be going on too.	01:09:21
	Good. And then for coming to season?	01:09:24
	Are you going to do baseball?	01:09:28
	Yeah, I'm shooting to start that in May, beginning of May, just that we were not in the summer heat in June, in July, so.	01:09:30
	Superman, April and given those two months and if we have to go into July, we're all into July.	01:09:37
	What is better?	01:09:45
	Chris, come on up.	01:09:51
	He you know, he also is a resource officer at the junior high.	01:09:53
	And I guess there's a little bit of commotion over there.	01:09:58
	What's? What's going on?	01:10:02
	What is it exactly that you do at Seracino?	01:10:04
	So usually I'll go and.	01:10:06
	I'll take some work from here and work there, but.	01:10:09
	Usually I'll go take some work from from here and do some work over there, but for the most part just kind of keep an eye on the	01:10:13
	kids and make sure there's no.	01:10:17
	Fights, or even we've had a couple.	01:10:22
	Agitated parents come in and I.	01:10:25
	Was kind of like, well, you know, chill out.	01:10:27
	Who do you work with? The principal?	01:10:31
	Usually the principal or the vice principal, I let him know, you know, that you guys have me there and let me know if they need	01:10:34
	anything. And for the most part they're, they're really grateful for it too. So they tell me every day that they appreciate it.	01:10:40
	But yeah.	01:10:46
	Whoever is a.	01:10:48
	Got some power there. I mean, whatever teachers, whatever, even students, they need something, you know, usually I'll I'll hop out	01:10:50
	too, so.	01:10:54
	I enjoy it.	01:10:58
	Lately, just for code enforcement been working on.	01:11:00
	Some of these burnt houses that keep.	01:11:04
	Going up.	01:11:07
	So that's kind of been my.	01:11:08
	The one on Blue Canyon and Prata.	01:11:12
	That one, yeah.	01:11:15
	Talking to the owner and we're going to.	01:11:17
	Hopefully we can.	01:11:20
	Otherwise you're gonna have to bring it to council to condemn it. Yeah. Otherwise we'd have to put a lien on it and clean it up	01:11:21
	ourselves. And.	01:11:25
	Yeah, talking with the mayor, you know, we our community is not the most.	01:11:30
	They don't have a lot of money, so.	01:11:38
	Whenever the mayor lets me help out.	01:11:39
	You know, everyone really appreciates that as well too.	01:11:42
	Do a gratis, but we got to clean that up. We've got to do something with that, right, Right. Yeah, I got about three of them right	01:11:45
	now that I'm working on so.	01:11:48
	Yes, Christina, someone in our committee too. We met the other day and we had some pretty good ideas that we were bouncing off	01:11:54
	each other and.	01:11:57
	Working together to see if we can get an ordinance to.	01:12:01
	Keep these businesses, you know their upkeep.	01:12:06
	You know, keep maintained so we don't.	01:12:08
	Who's out, you know, or someone else? If someone wants to come and buy a property or whatever, it's not a pain to get up and	01:12:11
	running again and.	01:12:14
	That just.	01:12:18
	Keep in contact with some some of these people that own businesses outside of Socorro too so.	01:12:20
	That was really good.	01:12:26
	Yeah, we did. Me and Chris is doing a lot of work we appreciate.	01:12:28
	Give us some examples or some ordinances.	01:12:33
	Let's see that keep Feel free Daniels on the on the committee.	01:12:36
	And my Lord is on the commandment so.	01:12:40
	Feel free to jump in.	01:12:43
	Our discussion, kind of.	01:12:45
	We go back from.	01:12:47
	Ordinance on gravitated structures.	01:12:50
	To an economic development.	01:12:54
	So we really were trying to.	01:12:56
	Corral the idea of what the purpose of the committee was for.	01:13:00
	We we know that.	01:13:06
	These buildings need something. We know that the buildings.	01:13:08
	Were a vibrant business at one point in time.	01:13:13
	And from that point in time to the to the next.	01:13:17
	Step. Well, there's no, there's no business there anymore. And then they slowly be slowly deteriorating.	01:13:21
	And so we.	01:13:28
	And the way I thought of it, and please feel free to jump in, was that, you know, our attempt to work with the electric Co-op to	01:13:30
	provide rates that were.	01:13:35
	Friendly for businesses.	01:13:40
	Would help to alleviate that and so that.	01:13:42
	The coop, The electric utility.	01:13:46
	Was going to be in my view of.	01:13:51
	Big part of the economic development.	01:13:53
	Plan So we're trying to grasp on what we what we want to do We have 3 examples here. One of them focuses on.	01:13:57
	On.	01:14:06
	Those those people and those businesses that own these buildings that don't live in Socorro.	01:14:07
	And so we want to know.	01:14:14
	The.	01:14:17
	You know, the legality behind focusing on, you know, if you're you're sending, give us a little example, say, for example, The	01:14:18
	Smiths building. Yeah, that's a tough one. Just to get ahold of one person to tell them, hey, you know, that we deserve your feet	01:14:25
	or whatever. It's kind of, we're going through a bunch of different people to try and get it cleaned up.	01:14:31
	So.	01:14:38
	Yeah, right now I couldn't even tell you where I would send a letter to have it cleaned up. I can tell you that we already know.	01:14:39
	I don't know who that is. Yeah, the Duke Rodriguez. Duke.	01:14:50
	Yeah, that's not true.	01:14:54
	We have those that information, don't we? Don't. Yes, Sir. We've spoken to him on the phone. Oh, OK. Well, I mean, you know,	01:14:55
	you're an example. You got that building you got.	01:14:59
	No, you got the rental and they know that the rental building is a nice building where they're just sitting there empty.	01:15:04
	And but you know.	01:15:10
	The the.	01:15:13
	They're, they're young, I think people, especially people from out of town.	01:15:15
	You need to make an effort to try to rent those buildings for productive use.	01:15:19
	And that's, you know, and that's.	01:15:24
	Something that but.	01:15:28
	If you do put it in the ordinance, there has to be some teeth in it as to what, and I think Albuquerque has something they did.	01:15:29
	Yeah.	01:15:35
	On Central, yeah, right now it's from Central and I can't. Maybe Donald might.	01:15:37
	The other street, someone.	01:15:42
	Yeah, it it's not. What direction are they headed for increasing their taxes, increasing their.	01:15:46
	Well, what signs are they talking about? You haven't seen the fines? Um.	01:15:51
	I just know that there's something in place for those buildings to.	01:15:56
	Keep, like the owners, their feet to the fire, just to keep them.	01:16:00
	Yeah.	01:16:07
	We mentioned this before, I mentioned it before a couple of meetings ago.	01:16:08
	Was that what can the city do?	01:16:12
	To support.	01:16:15
	Putting businesses back into those buildings.	01:16:17
	Or for example, a person calls and says, hey, I might want to start this up. Or we can so little have somebody solicit.	01:16:20
	Business to come to Socorro.	01:16:30
	And and connect.	01:16:33
	Potential businesses with buildings.	01:16:36
	Supporting the.	01:16:39
	Getting them up to code.	01:16:42
	Just information that would kind of.	01:16:45
	To facilitate them to come in. So like right now if somebody was looking to do something here in Socorro and they called, what I	01:16:49
	would do is if I was going somewhere else and looking for something I like the area, I would call the city and.	01:16:56
	And, and I would hear their story. What are the water rates? What are the electric rates? What's kind of a regulations and rules?	01:17:03
	Do you have, you know, we have a landfill, We have, we have an airport, we have New Mexico tech, We have a whole bunch of things	01:17:09
	working for this community.	01:17:14
	And we and if we had somebody that could.	01:17:20
	Could kind of focus on and maybe maybe that's Chris, you know, he could.	01:17:25
	Have a tool.	01:17:31
	That would allow him to incentivize somebody to come in to go to the to the tasty freeze and but you know, we pay.	01:17:33
	MRGDA Money.	01:17:42
	That's an equal. That's what I was under the impression that was the economic development arm.	01:17:45
	For this region.	01:17:49
	And they would be the ones that would send.	01:17:52
	Some people that want to do business in the city.	01:17:55
	I think, you know, we bring that up all the time, but I don't think we've cast them with doing that. We just give them money. But	01:17:59
	I I think.	01:18:03
	Well, I think I thought once we had her here last year.	01:18:07
	I was that's, you know, that's my opinion of economic development is they already have a arm.	01:18:11
	Why develop another one? And we can, we can certainly send them a letter saying that that's.	01:18:17
	But we expected them for that money.	01:18:22
	You know, and I think finding and the way it was brought.	01:18:26
	Are we an ordinance that's going to find?	01:18:31
	Because they're not in business, I mean.	01:18:34
	When COVID hit, it put a lot of businesses out and people aren't coming back to those businesses.	01:18:37
	And so I'm thinking that, you know, it's kind of government.	01:18:43
	Obligation to to bring businesses back into their community and I think we.	01:18:48
	I think we SH.	01:18:54
	With with merged, I think that's a good way to do it however it, but I think we need to have some funds that would support.	01:18:55
	Chris or support that person in soliciting businesses back because.	01:19:03
	I think, I think it would pay off. I mean, I want to put that on Chris, but we do have Economic Development Fund. Miss Dean	01:19:09
	pointed it out.	01:19:12
	That we would have money.	01:19:16
	And uh.	01:19:18
	Well, if we needed to put money, also incorporate some beautification project like you know.	01:19:19
	Providing them with.	01:19:26
	Film for the windows so they don't look dilapidated.	01:19:28
	So we can help make that work on that. I remember Mr. Dean wanted us to get an economic development person.	01:19:32
	We can advertise for one and we do have money to pay for that salary and we did approve a job description. We got 1 so.	01:19:39
	I like that.	01:19:48
	You know, when our committee sat down talking, we're like, man, we've got.	01:19:51
	We really want to beef it up like we don't. I mean it.	01:19:54
	The negativity of like trying to, we talked to Chris about it just like the ordinances and having to be the bad guy.	01:19:57
	Doing this and doing that and.	01:20:03
	You know, that should be an arm of this for sure, but but we really feel like some concerted effort. Let's get.	01:20:05
	You got the job description, we can just advertise it.	01:20:13
	You know, I'm not sure what the salary range is going to be, but we'll just advertise and make sure that.	01:20:17
	But then we'll have to take the funds away from MRDA just because.	01:20:21
	That's not.	01:20:25
	That's not the direction that we're going to go then.	01:20:26
	Unless we'll do it, Mr. Mayor. Speaking on behalf of Mersdah, I guess.	01:20:29
	I don't think the impression is that it's necessary.	01:20:35
	Strictly economic development and recruitment. I think it's more of a promotional.	01:20:39
	Umm, entity or organization that helps promote the area? That would be a.	01:20:45
	Almost like a Chamber of Commerce in a way.	01:20:50
	But not essentially the city's economic brand Economic Association.	01:20:52
	They better they better change their name.	01:21:00
	To well, no, I'm just saying that.	01:21:03
	That if they had well.	01:21:07
	Yeah, but let's just we'll try and look for economic development first.	01:21:09
	Do that I know Las Lunas pattern, You know Las Lunas is a different setup.	01:21:13
	There we are. I'll tell you about The Smiths building. It's a gentleman who owns it.	01:21:17
	He was going to put in a marijuana.	01:21:22
	Cultivation, but.	01:21:23
	The marijuana boom.	01:21:25
	Got so deluded.	01:21:27
	That then is, stop investing in it.	01:21:29
	You know, it just got too many of these little mom and pops everywhere.	01:21:33
	And so he and that's, that was his comment when we talked to him.	01:21:36
	And he's a big, I mean, he's a big entrepreneur with Ultra.	01:21:40
	But that's that's the reason he quit.	01:21:44
	Then I heard Harbor Freight might come in with. What's H hardware gonna say about that?	01:21:46
	You know, I mean, there's, there's a lot of conflicts about this kind of stuff.	01:21:50
	People say, well, we don't need another grocery store.	01:21:55
	I've been here 50 years, we've only always had two.	01:21:57
	It was either Smith's.	01:22:01
	Or John Brooks or what they call the stop and Shop or whatever.	01:22:02
	But now we've got a Walmart and John book, so.	01:22:06
	The question is, is there enough?	01:22:09
	Commerce.	01:22:11
	To be able to support.	01:22:13
	That kind of stuff that Las Lunas has, but we don't. They have 120,000 people. We have 20,000 people.	01:22:15
	That's, I think, the reality of business.	01:22:22
	Getting good rates?	01:22:25
	Good natural gas, water and sewer. We can help them with red tape and that's what we did with the others, the gas station.	01:22:26
	They put in a lot of money to develop them.	01:22:34
	That's what we did, Rancher.	01:22:36
	Grant's your supply. What do you call it? Tractor Supply.	01:22:38
	That's what we did with Tractor Supply.	01:22:41
	And well, she tried Solero.	01:22:43
	But Tractor Supply and.	01:22:46
	And this new gas station? That's 2.	01:22:48
	Big companies that actually came into town.	01:22:51
	So, and I think controversial does a good job in trying to.	01:22:54
	Get get companies to come in on their own.	01:22:58
	Hasn't had much success with the drugstore but.	01:23:02
	Drugs. All the drugstores are having a problem right now.	01:23:05
	I mean, the CVS and Walgreens are under big pressure.	01:23:08
	As far as expanding, they're actually closing.	01:23:12
	So, but you got your business, you got your business. I mean it's your job cut off for you. It's not easy.	01:23:15
	Maybe we need help with an economic development person and.	01:23:21
	We can think of a salary range and we've got the economic Development Fund. I put some money back into it.	01:23:25
	Well, that's, you know, let's try to get somebody that will do it.	01:23:32
	But then in specific direction as to what they're going to do.	01:23:36
	That's going to be the biggest thing.	01:23:39
	Thanks, Chris. Thanks for starting the conversation.	01:23:42
	Christine, what do you got? Anything.	01:23:49
	No.	01:23:52
	There is no insurance rates going up.	01:23:55
	What about our liability and all that? What about, I know you had a little to do with OSHA, but what's going on with OSHA? Number	01:23:58
	one, I want to tell everybody, although people knew that we were being fine, the city is not going to pay a monetary fine.	01:24:04
	It is 0 and we will come to terms with OJA and God development.	01:24:11
	And arbitration to to satisfy what their.	01:24:15
	The complaints?	01:24:19
	So Lenas work on Donald, Jerry, Armijo, Christy, we're all working on that.	01:24:20
	So what about your?	01:24:25
	Workman's comp and safety committee and all that stuff. Are we doing anything with that?	01:24:27
	Uh, chances doing. He's doing safety.	01:24:32
	Seeing the safety.	01:24:35
	You got your hands full.	01:24:38
	Yeah.	01:24:40
	I'm just wrapping up quarterly, end of year and then W twos will be ready tomorrow. Who's your contact for health insurance?	01:24:42
	Help. No.	01:24:50
	Arissa, I believe they tell you, do they tell you what's upcoming? Are we going to get increases?	01:24:53
	They haven't reached out like Tory Bloomquist, I think is his name. He's the one who's reached out the last two times.	01:24:59
	Don't be surprised.	01:25:08
	That's what's going to happen. Yeah, I think that what did they say when we went to a meeting in Santa Fe, they were switching	01:25:10
	from because they did switch from GSD to.	01:25:16
	Like HP ****. Yeah, health support My my question is whether the legislature, they were going to supposed to bail out the health	01:25:23
	authority, but $280 million.	01:25:29
	I don't know if they ever did that.	01:25:35
	Yeah, I don't and so.	01:25:36
	But just check with them to see what.	01:25:39
	Are they going to give it? Are they going to surprise us or they're going to go in July? Are they going to go on a regular basis?	01:25:41
	Right. I'll ask them and see if there's anything in the works.	01:25:46
	Isaac.	01:25:52
	I just asked you about the guys. I mean, it got cold.	01:25:55
	It was like 7° five degrees.	01:25:59
	Three on my truck this morning.	01:26:02
	30° yeah, but no, it did good. We're coming at £500. It dropped down to about 3.	01:26:04
	20 flags somewhere around in there.	01:26:11
	And do you guys like, have you been lighting any pilots or do you need to, do you have any calls for that this year 'cause usually	01:26:13
	you do. I mean, yeah, before, before they found those.	01:26:18
	Pigs that were stuck in their wine.	01:26:24
	Now that pressure statement is pretty good, yeah.	01:26:28
	I haven't been too bad, but like I said.	01:26:31
	We're just trying to get all those lines in place before they pave. They don't park.	01:26:35
	Church and center.	01:26:39
	And then I guess I'll.	01:26:42
	Look forward to doing.	01:26:44
	The South and department from the front of the.	01:26:45
	Library.	01:26:48
	Are you putting any new services?	01:26:51
	Ever since I haven't gotten any.	01:26:54
	But no, just trying to know.	01:26:57
	Replace domains.	01:27:00
	They're all mostly inch and 1/4.	01:27:01
	To them. So I'll put it in that forest. So it's kind of helping everybody else too.	01:27:03
	You're not dropping question.	01:27:09
	Mr. Poland.	01:27:11
	I know we advertised on my card.	01:27:13
	Something with their services and things they could ever get that going through here.	01:27:17
	I don't know. A while back they had presented.	01:27:22
	That they needed to.	01:27:25
	Like pay for their parts and that we're just way under in that department. Did that ever go through?	01:27:27
	We already got it. Yeah, OK. No, just like the.	01:27:34
	They gave us the great donations and foster connection and stuff that was way low and.	01:27:38
	And the lawyer also told us we were not in a good spot there. Yeah, yeah. And what we did there pretty much just adjusted them to	01:27:42
	where they're pretty much just paying for the parts, correct. Yeah. But before we were under the way.	01:27:49
	I know it at least pays for itself. Yeah, at least.	01:27:56
	Can you explain to me about this $9000?	01:27:59
	That they were talking about that e-mail you got. Can you explain to the council what that's about?	01:28:03
	I'm not too sure how that RNG works, like if we would have to.	01:28:07
	Do anything on our part of the system, any upgrades, stuff like that. Like I don't even know how they'll get it in.	01:28:13
	If they had gold to where we get it from there and.	01:28:19
	From El Paso and Berlin and coming down.	01:28:22
	I don't know if they have.	01:28:24
	Their own separate lines that come in or they would have to.	01:28:26
	So we never signed anything. No, no. I mean, I asked him for a meeting, but I guess he's not going to be back into that guy. I	01:28:29
	don't know, though.	01:28:33
	So I kind of told that already, but he's still kind of persistent.	01:28:37
	But OK.	01:28:43
	One last shot.	01:28:48
	Mayor Council. So we're through our second quarter. So we started our third quarter. We still are working on collections with.	01:28:54
	Turn offs we are.	01:29:02
	Referring people to late than Midwest cap.	01:29:03
	For assistance, but we are working with them and telling them come in, we'll do a plan with you, you know, to make a payment.	01:29:06
	We do have new rates going in.	01:29:12
	February 1st, which is you're asking Joel about the.	01:29:15
	Umm part. So it is going to depending on.	01:29:19
	What the parts cost, you know when it's going to go out to the customers.	01:29:22
	This month is the coldest month of the year, so March bill would be the highest bill.	01:29:26
	But the new rates do go in.	01:29:32
	Now, um.	01:29:34
	Mike got a new garbage truck, a commercial garbage truck, and it is running, so I think he has no backups now.	01:29:36
	Yeah, so and I know these ones are very, it's not a rather.	01:29:42
	Yeah. Oh, it's not.	01:29:46
	And, umm.	01:29:48
	We did hedge gas.	01:29:49
	This year we tried it last year, so we did hedge it and we did compare.	01:29:51
	The cost of.	01:29:55
	The shell and it is lower and the rates are lower than last year.	01:29:57
	What's that? What's the price of gas now?	01:30:02
	We had **** at 384.	01:30:05
	Whether we will be hesitant?	01:30:07
	384 last year.	01:30:09
	What is it at 37?	01:30:13
	No, it is working out. We are comparing, we will look.	01:30:17
	Next month, like I said, it's the coldest.	01:30:20
	Under the year we are working on grants, I did apply for the New Mexico Match grant. I applied for six and I got one which was	01:30:23
	38,000 for the transportation ban.	01:30:28
	And Carlos is ordering that. But everything so behind.	01:30:32
	So hopefully we get it by June 30th.	01:30:37
	And we do still have the ambulances that we're still waiting for and hopefully we get those in July.	01:30:39
	So working on those.	01:30:45
	And that's about it. I do have.	01:30:48
	I did change some positions around a little so we do have some training and accounts payable and in collections.	01:30:50
	I just wanted to tell mayor and council thank you for the rate increases, you know, for across the board. You know, that was	01:30:58
	really helpful and thanks for the committee for.	01:31:01
	Meeting and going over everything with me and the rate increase. Don't you have any questions? You know, we went through a whole.	01:31:05
	You know, we had, we had everything.	01:31:11
	So if you need anything, Marcy did a great job on that, no?	01:31:13
	Anything. Oh, and then I use Living through the Library. It's audiobooks if anybody's ever interested. I love it. You tell Chelsea	01:31:19
	to order you a book and she ordered it. She's great.	01:31:23
	But that's about it for me.	01:31:28
	Real books, Yeah. Audiobooks. You know, if you're traveling.	01:31:30
	If you're walking, it's great.	01:31:35
	Which book do you like?	01:31:37
	I'm reading right now. I'm listening to the Nightingale.	01:31:39
	It's about the Holocaust. It's it's Christian Hannah.	01:31:43
	Well, good. I'm glad you're a book reader listener.	01:31:49
	Great. Thanks. Thanks to the directors for everybody.	01:31:52
	Yeah, never got a chance to speak and we lengthen the meetings, but this time?	01:31:55
	It was worth it to get all the.	01:31:59
	Information from.	01:32:01
	Everybody.	01:32:02
	OK. Any new business?	01:32:04
	Any old business, Miss Chavez? I just have an update on our the Housing Authority's apartments.	01:32:07
	They are almost done.	01:32:14
	We will start training on wait list and start taking applications hopefully.	01:32:16
	The last of April. Oh, congratulations, we should be.	01:32:22
	Furnished opening refresh.	01:32:28
	They're not furnished.	01:32:30
	Can I get him finished?	01:32:32
	Awesome, what a fantastic job you did.	01:32:33
	And just really great.	01:32:36
	No, thank you everybody.	01:32:38
	You know you guys, what are we going to do with our Rd. Lloyd?	01:32:40
	We're in the process of coming up with something. Did you get those extra money? Yes, we did. We got $1,000,000 from.	01:32:46
	Van Lohan, wonderful as you do so. Fantastic job. Great.	01:32:53
	All right, anything. You. You.	01:32:59
	No old old, let's go again. Just real quick. I know I didn't have the exact answer because I can't remember, but I know that the	01:33:01
	Cuba Rd. project was through CBBG.	01:33:05
	We've been working on that for a while.	01:33:10
	And I kind of got an earful from some of the.	01:33:13
	Residents out there.	01:33:15
	As far as completion and then there was some work done over the ditch and some stuff that and I can't remember. I know there was	01:33:17
	something that we were gonna it's done. We've got the money.	01:33:22
	We don't have the money yet. We don't. Last week I sent in some documents they wanted changed because we were awarded supplemental	01:33:27
	funding for that one.	01:33:30
	Because we ran out of money.	01:33:35
	And I sent it to him last week and I'm waiting for them to return it and then we're ready to go, but then they award us the 800.	01:33:36
	Well, supplemental money, it's 1.067 the state shared, then it's 565, and then that's the 125 that you got yourself.	01:33:44
	Yeah, we have the money to finish it. Yes, yeah, I know it's good. It's just trying to get contrary like Monsignor was supposed to	01:33:54
	start.	01:33:59
	Last year.	01:34:05
	So we're just getting it done now.	01:34:07
	We've got the money to finish it. Yes. So we do now. But they wanted all of the agreements in one document. Yeah. Yeah. Well, but	01:34:08
	I mean, that's paperwork. Yes, Sir. Yeah. I knew there was some part, I just couldn't remember exactly where we were at. But it's	01:34:13
	a done deal as far as.	01:34:18
	You just have to get the paperwork done and then we'll.	01:34:23
	Then we already put it out to Bitter is Albuquerque.	01:34:26
	Yeah.	01:34:34
	So tell us. I mean, I just like the same thing we told the story, people.	01:34:40
	We're trying to put together money to finish the project.	01:34:44
	Because everything's coming up 30% more than it normally does. I don't know what's going on with electrical, but every, all the	01:34:46
	contracts are put out.	01:34:50
	Are 30% more than what we have money for?	01:34:54
	So that's the big problem.	01:34:57
	So we're trying to accumulate that money and Donald did a.	01:34:59
	Good job in getting the supplemental money.	01:35:01
	So we're just trying to get that.	01:35:03
	Mr. Puerto, on another topic, I had a.	01:35:06
	That girl come up to me about the.	01:35:09
	Issue of selling food there at Smith's and then.	01:35:11
	She said, well, that a police officer.	01:35:15
	Told her that they can sell there and I told her well you got to have a.	01:35:18
	You know a permit and you gotta ask permission and things like that is it?	01:35:22
	Is that across the board that Smith is not one of our? No, it's not. They show up at 10:00. I don't know. Were you responsible for	01:35:25
	one of those?	01:35:31
	Food vendors by any chance at night showed up at.	01:35:36
	9:00 or 10:00.	01:35:39
	No, but yeah, but there.	01:35:44
	They showed up. I'm every underworld men.	01:35:46
	They showed up and they're cooking, had a little Christmas lights and everything.	01:35:49
	But that lot is not approved for vendors. There's a wood on it. They cook dinner on there.	01:35:54
	Now the only one that's approved.	01:36:00
	Is the uh uh.	01:36:02
	Umm, Baymont.	01:36:05
	But the amount is improved. It's not approved for any vendors though. Nothing, right? OK, the owner has to come to us.	01:36:06
	And get it, it's not a big deal. They can get it approved, but they got to approve it.	01:36:13
	Hope you got a company.	01:36:17
	But uh.	01:36:19
	With the summary report something.	01:36:20
	But but you know these guys, I usually call Chief and he sends his patrol over there.	01:36:26
	Christie.	01:36:32
	RadioShack.	01:36:41
	Automotive.	01:36:44
	Amex Automotive.	01:36:46
	Yeah, MX Automotive, the old quick and easy.	01:36:48
	We have to.	01:36:54
	Got to get it approved through planning and zoning. I guess my it wasn't that the question because I did explain that it's just	01:36:58
	that.	01:37:01
	And she made it sound like it was selected, like some people were allowed there, some people weren't allowed there. So I'm just.	01:37:04
	Speeding pic and I was telling mom selected everybody else is being oven nobody that the answer is nobody right? Nobody's another	01:37:10
	property and then I'd love to sell theirs. They're not going to prove in their site.	01:37:17
	OK, then you know in a way.	01:37:24
	It gets to be a snowball effect sometimes.	01:37:27
	You get one person and then somebody else shows up and then.	01:37:30
	You know, we try to keep, at least try to keep ahead of it.	01:37:33
	Tell me anymore. She's not a restaurant, you know. The other approved site is our own Plaza.	01:37:41
	Yeah, but no. But I mean when.	01:37:46
	You know, again, it's just, I just hate to have random people show up all over town.	01:37:49
	You know, with their little.	01:37:54
	Wagons and drinking money number one. I don't know if they put in gross receipts.	01:37:56
	And #2 if they have.	01:38:00
	If something happens on that lot.	01:38:02
	That God is responsible for it. Who owns the law?	01:38:06
	So yeah, so this.	01:38:10
	It's random. It's me usually who turns them in.	01:38:13
	If you want to know, but it's when I see him, I just call they call our friendly patrolman and.	01:38:17
	They go talk to him.	01:38:23
	So that's that's.	01:38:26
	Who were they from town? Yeah, they're from town. I don't know the girls names.	01:38:28
	Yeah, she's selling food.	01:38:33
	Yes, selling food and then they said they ran off. But then they said that other people are allowed. And I said no. I just don't	01:38:35
	think anybody's allowed that. Maybe they just missed it, is what I said. You know, maybe the ones I talked about like they were	01:38:39
	from like Texas or some places.	01:38:43
	Or Arizona. They just had a little.	01:38:47
	They had the whole 10 yards. I mean, they were cooking up a.	01:38:49
	Hibachi. I mean, it's like.	01:38:53
	And then, you know, then you got vendors selling oranges.	01:38:56
	Then you got vendors selling flags, and you got vendors selling.	01:39:00
	Who knows what?	01:39:04
	You know, so I think that's.	01:39:06
	That's part of the we're trying to just keep.	01:39:07
	Keep a little later on as well.	01:39:10
	Okie, Dokie.	01:39:13
	Anyway, well, we had a long meeting. There's no football games or basketball games or forget everything.	01:39:15
	Anyway, personnel matter.	01:39:20
	Oh, executive session, Miss Charles.	01:39:23
	Anyway and.	01:39:27
	We've got personnel changes, we've got relent.	01:39:28
	V Learner. Oh, we got a new lady police officer.	01:39:32
	She's right. Now she works at the.	01:39:37
	The prison? The county jail.	01:39:41
	She's a new hire and we have Caitlin Garza as a dispatch. Resignation Stephen Silva.	01:39:43
	Senior Center is a resignation.	01:39:49
	Anybody.	01:39:54
	Mr. Mayor, I'll make a motion to accept the personnel changes.	01:39:56
	Discussion.	01:40:00
	Unfair then for businesses we got a models rustic custom cocina.	01:40:01
	Marcia Amaro.	01:40:07
	At 1560 Hope Farms.	01:40:10
	And wait right And detailing and pressure washing.	01:40:13
	Jordan, Jordan Robus, he is a, he's a go getter, so.	01:40:16
	All in favor.	01:40:21
	Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. The next meeting is February 4th.	01:40:23
	S but I guess she learning moderate.	01:40:28
	I didn't bore you. Did I fight against anybody?	01:40:31
	This time, here's Ruth.	01:40:35
	Oh.	01:40:39