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| According to the council meeting Tuesday, April the 1st 2025 Roll call please. Mayor Baskar here, Councillor Travis Lopez here. | 00:00:00 | |
| Councillor Dean. | 00:00:08 | |
| Councillor Fleming. | 00:00:10 | |
| Councillor Ocampo. | 00:00:12 | |
| Counselor o'geen here. | 00:00:14 | |
| Councillor Partridge here. | 00:00:16 | |
| Councillor Romero here. | 00:00:18 | |
| Councillor Salome here we have a quorum. | 00:00:20 | |
| And to the Republic, for which it stands on the. | 00:00:30 | |
| I move, we approve the. | 00:00:44 | |
| Consent agenda as presented, I second. | 00:00:47 | |
| The second, any discussion on that? | 00:00:50 | |
| All in favor. | 00:00:53 | |
| All righty, we got Segura High School wrestling team. | 00:00:55 | |
| Mr. Partridge. | 00:00:58 | |
| You go on the podium. | 00:01:01 | |
| Say it again. | 00:01:06 | |
| So just to. | 00:01:16 | |
| Recap of the 20. | 00:01:17 | |
| Oh, you guys, come on, there's some. | 00:01:20 | |
| Come on in, guys. Come on. Come on now they look like wrestlers. There you go. OK. | 00:01:23 | |
| So just a recap of our season. We always like to keep the City Council and Mayor Baskar involved. It's something that. | 00:01:32 | |
| Before I was a counselor. | 00:01:41 | |
| The city's been supporting the wrestling program for a very long time. They've helped subsidized. | 00:01:43 | |
| Are building uniforms in the back? I mean just all anything we've ever came up and asked whether it's a building usage or. | 00:01:48 | |
| To have an event in a building. | 00:01:55 | |
| So they've been incredibly supportive. I think we've been trying to reciprocate it by bringing events to town and. | 00:01:57 | |
| And you know, bringing revenue to town and showing people our city of Socorro so. | 00:02:04 | |
| Really successful season this year this is our eighth season as a high school program. Our. | 00:02:10 | |
| It I'll bring the little kids in when we conclude their season at the end of the summer. | 00:02:16 | |
| And that program is really big. | 00:02:21 | |
| We've been 15 years now with the little kids. | 00:02:23 | |
| Program, that's where it all started. Started with that and then grew it into the high school. | 00:02:27 | |
| And this year we had three state champions. | 00:02:31 | |
| And in eighth season, we've had 15 state champions, so just just under 2 state champions every year. | 00:02:34 | |
| I think what's pretty remarkable about the. | 00:02:42 | |
| The program is that most of the programs and then in. | 00:02:44 | |
| I'm gonna highlight wrestling. I'm not gonna talk down about anything else, but these kids have to wrestle for a. | 00:02:47 | |
| And 5A. | 00:02:52 | |
| Opponents and the only other sport at the high school that does that, I believe. | 00:02:54 | |
| Is swimming and. | 00:02:59 | |
| So we have to be in order to be. We're top seven this year and we were hoping for a top five. We knew top three was going to be | 00:03:01 | |
| top three trophy. | 00:03:05 | |
| That have been tough, but the onset. | 00:03:09 | |
| Us and the coaching staff that we could be top five. | 00:03:11 | |
| A couple setbacks at the tournament, we ended up top 7 out of 44. | 00:03:14 | |
| So and there's 65 teams that wrestle in the state. | 00:03:18 | |
| Five days, only 22 I believe or something. 22 teams in Friday 2014. | 00:03:22 | |
| So it's quite a bit smaller. | 00:03:26 | |
| Umm top seven for the boys. Girls are still top ten with only. | 00:03:28 | |
| 7 qualifiers and they're still just are just outside the top ten part of me. | 00:03:34 | |
| Umm, Sasha Gonzalez is here. Will you stand with Sasha? | 00:03:39 | |
| She played. I want to. | 00:03:43 | |
| And there's a couple other girls that placed in qualified for state. Natasha's pretty special in regards to. | 00:03:45 | |
| She's a two time state champion of all classes, so she's. | 00:03:51 | |
| 1A through 6A, she's the best of the best. | 00:03:55 | |
| It's been pretty remarkable, wrestler. | 00:04:00 | |
| She's pretty beat up this year. It was a tough season for her, so to get to to end it in a 00. | 00:04:05 | |
| State final match down to the wire. | 00:04:11 | |
| Umm, one point given on the right, on the right out, I think at the very end of the at the very end of the. So it's pretty | 00:04:14 | |
| exciting. James MacNeil, Sir. | 00:04:18 | |
| Is the head coach of the girls. We have two coaches now. I'm the head coach of the boys, James the head coach of the girls. | 00:04:22 | |
| And James has always been such as like main coach. | 00:04:27 | |
| So credit to Coach James and Sasha, they put together good game plan, they got it done. | 00:04:31 | |
| And I was there as the moral support in the corner for Sasha. So congratulations to her, she had a great job. | 00:04:36 | |
| And a couple other young ladies in the. | 00:04:42 | |
| Hilly and Mahdi Perez are part of the team. | 00:04:45 | |
| They're still in the gym next I practice tonight. They're. | 00:04:49 | |
| Their goal is to qualify and place at state. | 00:04:52 | |
| Selling more Reno, who's not here? Chloe at City, who's not here? | 00:04:55 | |
| A couple other kids, some of the boys. Highlights for the boys. | 00:04:59 | |
| Isaiah. | 00:05:04 | |
| Two time state champion, He's he won it this year back-to-back. | 00:05:06 | |
| Against a rival Berlin kid that. | 00:05:11 | |
| Was quite a. | 00:05:14 | |
| Quite a culmination of things leading up to that match and Isaiah got it done, so we're proud of his efforts and. | 00:05:16 | |
| He's only a sophomore, going to be a junior next year, so in search of four state championships, I think he'll. | 00:05:22 | |
| I think you'll get there for sure. | 00:05:29 | |
| Go down as one of our best. | 00:05:31 | |
| Patrick Moyer, Cutter. He's a second year wrestler. | 00:05:33 | |
| Came out last year. | 00:05:36 | |
| Kind of. There's a couple of them. | 00:05:38 | |
| Get an appointment. | 00:05:40 | |
| Patrick didn't. He qualified last year, fell short, didn't didn't place this year, last year. | 00:05:43 | |
| This year he I talked to him, I thought he could be top six and he only top six get a medal. | 00:05:49 | |
| So I thought he was actually probably 6. | 00:05:55 | |
| And he plays 4th. I mean he exceeded all of our expectations. He grew up 4th place, middle home only the second year wrestling. | 00:05:58 | |
| Did a heck of a job. Katie Mcmill. | 00:06:04 | |
| James is a young man as his son. | 00:06:09 | |
| He's only a freshman. Two time qualifier, two time state placer. | 00:06:11 | |
| I placed it this year, felt a little short of where he wanted to be, but he's still in the gym working hard. There's no doubt. I | 00:06:17 | |
| think he'll. | 00:06:20 | |
| A couple titles and Marius is. | 00:06:23 | |
| And the gym working hard. State qualifier. 2 times state qualifier. | 00:06:25 | |
| Just outside of placing almost. | 00:06:29 | |
| Julian Aldridge in the back. | 00:06:32 | |
| Really. I mean the first year. | 00:06:35 | |
| Julian, raise your hand. | 00:06:38 | |
| And Juliano's first year really like putting a full season together and staying with us, and he found some success, made it to | 00:06:39 | |
| state. | 00:06:42 | |
| Just outside of placing junior this year, be a senior next year. | 00:06:45 | |
| Jeremiah, that's Patrick's little brother, got some work to do, but he's on that squad and he's showing up every day. I think | 00:06:50 | |
| he'll be great. | 00:06:54 | |
| Patrick McBride. | 00:06:58 | |
| Tore his shoulder in the first tournament of the year, never made it back but was there with his team the whole year so hopefully | 00:07:00 | |
| he gets that thing held up and he'll be back. | 00:07:03 | |
| I think that's all my kids. I guess the bottom line is. | 00:07:08 | |
| The programs thriving and doing well, our coaching staff coach John, coach David back there and we've been the same coaching staff | 00:07:11 | |
| for. | 00:07:14 | |
| I don't know. I guess since the inception of the program from the youth program. | 00:07:18 | |
| And I think the consistency of the coaching and the parents support. | 00:07:22 | |
| Has made all the difference in the world for the wrestling program. So thank you the Council for and and Nebraska for the | 00:07:27 | |
| continued support with the wrestling program. | 00:07:31 | |
| We we want to bring home a state championship trophy. That's the goal. | 00:07:36 | |
| We're going to continue to work hard towards getting there. We got a couple of tournaments coming up in the offseason. | 00:07:41 | |
| Rocky Mountain Nationals at the rodeo arena. | 00:07:46 | |
| That's coming up in May and then Under the Lights tournament is coming up in July. | 00:07:49 | |
| So a couple more events and then we have a couple of camps scheduled this summer, so. | 00:07:54 | |
| Other than that, that's really the gist of it. So again, thank you all for everything. Maybe we can get a kid to get a picture | 00:07:58 | |
| with the council and. | 00:08:02 | |
| Want to congratulate you guys for. | 00:08:07 | |
| Yeah, the volunteer, volunteer work that you do for a. | 00:08:09 | |
| The kids. I think it's been a great program. Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, come on up. We'll get a picture. | 00:08:15 | |
| Come on, coaches. | 00:08:20 | |
| I forgot malou I malou. | 00:08:27 | |
| Congratulations Guy. | 00:08:57 | |
| Thank you. | 00:09:09 | |
| How you doing? | 00:09:11 | |
| Thank you man. | 00:09:12 | |
| Thank you. Thank you again. Thank you. | 00:09:13 | |
| To your coaches and your volunteers and of course the kids. But. | 00:09:16 | |
| You know, if it hadn't been for you, I don't think we would have had a program. And I got to always remember Sammy Vivian. It | 00:09:19 | |
| wasn't for Coach Sammy. Great job that he did also. | 00:09:25 | |
| OK, there's an effort. | 00:09:31 | |
| Little program he's gonna share with us. | 00:09:33 | |
| Just a follow up from my last presentation. | 00:09:36 | |
| I wasn't aware I was going to have to follow that. | 00:09:39 | |
| So thank you for having me again. | 00:09:45 | |
| Quickly again, my name is Jason Everett. I'm the Fire Chief at the Very Large Array. I'm the chair of the local emergency planning | 00:09:49 | |
| committee. | 00:09:53 | |
| Which is through Socorro County Emergency Management. | 00:09:57 | |
| First off, I want to thank you, Mr. Mayor, for donating the facility for our active shooter. | 00:10:01 | |
| Present our tabletop exercise on Thursday. | 00:10:08 | |
| We had 84 participants. | 00:10:12 | |
| And I've seen some of the preliminary responses and they've been very, very positive. | 00:10:15 | |
| And enthusiastic. So thank you again for your support. Thank you for putting it on. I think that was a big, it was a team effort. | 00:10:21 | |
| Thank you. I appreciate that. | 00:10:25 | |
| So real quickly, my disclaimer. | 00:10:30 | |
| You know, we can go to the next slide. | 00:10:32 | |
| And this again is a follow up. | 00:10:34 | |
| Just to be clear, the views that I'm about to express or my observations. | 00:10:37 | |
| Based on 25 years in the fire and EMS service. | 00:10:42 | |
| I'm not choosing sides. | 00:10:46 | |
| Except for those of the people. | 00:10:48 | |
| I'd like to see the city and county, as mentioned two months ago, working together. | 00:10:51 | |
| And we'll talk about that. | 00:10:56 | |
| And obviously not the views of the LEPC or my employer, NRA. Oh. | 00:10:58 | |
| Well, you're real politically correct. The way to go, Jason. Thank you, Sir. | 00:11:05 | |
| I learned it from you. | 00:11:09 | |
| All right, so. | 00:11:11 | |
| A couple of changes to the financial analysis that I've provided two months ago. I've received some additional information. | 00:11:13 | |
| So I've tweaked the numbers. | 00:11:20 | |
| Which I'll share with you. | 00:11:22 | |
| But before I do. | 00:11:24 | |
| I need to bring a somber. | 00:11:27 | |
| Piece of news to your attention. | 00:11:29 | |
| When I said two months ago. | 00:11:32 | |
| That ALS services are our lack of having them. | 00:11:34 | |
| In the city and county. | 00:11:38 | |
| We're literally seeing our citizens die. | 00:11:40 | |
| And I want to assure you that that is not hyperbole. | 00:11:43 | |
| Next. | 00:11:48 | |
| Two weeks after I was last here. | 00:11:49 | |
| An 18 month old child died just north of Lemmatore. | 00:11:52 | |
| Baby in my eyes. | 00:11:59 | |
| He was choking. | 00:12:04 | |
| Now on an EMT basic and an EMT intermediate. | 00:12:07 | |
| Can only provide back blows. | 00:12:11 | |
| And chest compressions hoping to. | 00:12:13 | |
| Increase in her thoracic pressure. | 00:12:16 | |
| In order to force that obstruction out. | 00:12:19 | |
| Paramedics, on the other hand, carry a laryngoscope. | 00:12:23 | |
| So they can literally see. | 00:12:26 | |
| Through the vocal cords. | 00:12:28 | |
| They can get their tongues in there if they can. | 00:12:30 | |
| If they can't, they can push that obstruction down deeper into one of the lungs. | 00:12:33 | |
| Which would open the airway. | 00:12:39 | |
| In the last case scenario is they can cut an airway through a thyroid. | 00:12:40 | |
| Had this young man had a paramedic there? | 00:12:45 | |
| Likely would have had a different outcome. | 00:12:49 | |
| So the states here in this conversation are. | 00:12:52 | |
| And this is not hyperbole. | 00:12:55 | |
| Paramedics and ALS providers have skills and tools. | 00:12:58 | |
| That we simply don't have as EMT's in the field. | 00:13:02 | |
| So with that said, we'll move forward. | 00:13:07 | |
| My modified financial analysis. | 00:13:12 | |
| I've included fees for service in the budget analysis. | 00:13:15 | |
| So I'll show you the slide from last presentation. | 00:13:21 | |
| And then the augmented slide here in a moment. | 00:13:25 | |
| I've been told that there's some type of agreement between the city and the county. | 00:13:29 | |
| I don't know if it's formal, I don't know if it's codified, I don't know if it's. | 00:13:34 | |
| Spoken or known? | 00:13:37 | |
| But what I understand is the city. | 00:13:40 | |
| Is responsible for providing fire and EMS services. | 00:13:43 | |
| And the county is responsible for providing detention services, and it's kind of an exchange. | 00:13:48 | |
| That's what I understand. | 00:13:53 | |
| What do you would you get that information from? | 00:13:54 | |
| I've I've I've heard it from the county because it's not true. | 00:13:57 | |
| OK, well. | 00:14:01 | |
| When you get your information, check both sides before you put it on the screen. OK, well I'm I'm clearly saying I don't know, but | 00:14:04 | |
| because I was told her I don't know for sure because I only talked to the county because they have no agreement and I'm going to | 00:14:09 | |
| go point by point every time you put something on the screen. | 00:14:15 | |
| That is not true. OK, Mr. Mayor. | 00:14:21 | |
| I said that I'm not sure. | 00:14:24 | |
| But what it did lead to, excuse me, what it did lead to is my doing it. Excuse me? This is a public comment section. You get 2 | 00:14:27 | |
| minutes. | 00:14:32 | |
| But you're trying to make a big. | 00:14:36 | |
| Thing here on the screen that looks as if it's real. | 00:14:38 | |
| An official it is not. | 00:14:42 | |
| It's just my I'm, I'm here as a concerned citizen. You haven't talked to me once about this. You want to talk to the county? You | 00:14:44 | |
| may have talked to Mr. Berger, but these things that you're saying, you have not talked to me once about it. OK, Well, you did | 00:14:50 | |
| talk about some of these things in the paper. | 00:14:56 | |
| Right, if you get your news from the paper, good luck. | 00:15:03 | |
| Yes, Sir. OK. May I continue real briefly? Absolutely. You've got 2 minutes. I'm going to cut you off because I think a lot of | 00:15:06 | |
| this stuff is not. | 00:15:09 | |
| Not defensible. OK. Thank you, Sir. | 00:15:13 | |
| Next is the original slide I showed you. | 00:15:15 | |
| Two months ago. | 00:15:19 | |
| Next slide, please, Lena. | 00:15:21 | |
| This includes future service income. | 00:15:24 | |
| Change so the city received almost $900,000 a year billing insurance for transport. | 00:15:28 | |
| So if you look at the county's portion of that, about 30%, thirty, 1%. | 00:15:36 | |
| That $600,000 number drops to about 340. | 00:15:43 | |
| OK, next. | 00:15:48 | |
| So I did a similar analysis. | 00:15:51 | |
| With the detention center. | 00:15:54 | |
| And if you look here, the average percentage of city detainees is between 40 and 45%. | 00:15:56 | |
| Next slide. | 00:16:04 | |
| But the city is only contributing 2020 four $11,000 towards that. | 00:16:07 | |
| And I ran the same kind of numbers that I did in that previous presentation. | 00:16:15 | |
| The percentage of your people or their people. | 00:16:21 | |
| Towards the total budget. | 00:16:25 | |
| So if you look at that bottom line. | 00:16:26 | |
| That's over $1,000,000. | 00:16:28 | |
| That that the city detainees are a portion of the total expense budget for the. | 00:16:32 | |
| The temperature. | 00:16:40 | |
| So the bottom line we can skip to. | 00:16:43 | |
| Is the funding shouldn't be the? | 00:16:46 | |
| Issue if there are agreements. | 00:16:49 | |
| Between the city and the county. | 00:16:52 | |
| I think the city and the county need to work. | 00:16:55 | |
| To make those clear again. | 00:16:57 | |
| The mayor says it's not true. I'll take him at his word. | 00:17:00 | |
| However. | 00:17:04 | |
| Well, I mean, what do you mean is that? | 00:17:06 | |
| You can only check for the county on all this. | 00:17:08 | |
| You didn't check on the state. Let me finish. You don't check on state statute. Who's responsible for prisons? You didn't check to | 00:17:11 | |
| see if the city and the county are one. | 00:17:16 | |
| These are county residents that you're separating between the city and the county. | 00:17:21 | |
| Those are county residents. The city is in the county. The state statutes specifically states. I know this because I've been | 00:17:25 | |
| through this for the last 20 years. You just came upon it now. | 00:17:31 | |
| The prison is the argument from the county side, and that's what you're presenting. | 00:17:36 | |
| The county is state statute bound to take care of prisoners. | 00:17:41 | |
| That is not. | 00:17:47 | |
| A city funded thing. | 00:17:48 | |
| It is not mandated by any state statutes. | 00:17:51 | |
| The prison. The local county prison. | 00:17:55 | |
| Is a state statute staying the counties are responsible for that? Excellent, thank you. I appreciate your that budget. | 00:17:57 | |
| That you're presenting. | 00:18:05 | |
| Is not a deduction or an addition. | 00:18:07 | |
| To the EMS fund, which we are not. | 00:18:09 | |
| So you're comparing apples and oranges when you're talking about monies that are being spent at a. | 00:18:13 | |
| Entity compared to the monies that are being spent at the ambulance. Excellent. You just made my next point, which is it is apples | 00:18:19 | |
| and oranges and I don't want to be involved in discussing the funding. I want to be involved in improving service. The service is | 00:18:26 | |
| already there. What are you talking about? We're talking about paying for the service. | 00:18:33 | |
| And then I think we're going to have the next agenda item that. | 00:18:40 | |
| That we can kind of segue into. | 00:18:44 | |
| Is that we've already talked to the state. The Department of Transportation controls the ambulance services. | 00:18:46 | |
| And we're requesting a decrease in our service area. | 00:18:51 | |
| This and we do have. | 00:18:55 | |
| A mandate from the state. | 00:18:58 | |
| That we are the ones who serve this area, that is by law, so we can't just abandoned that. | 00:19:00 | |
| There will probably be a we'll probably have a hearing. | 00:19:05 | |
| And uh. | 00:19:09 | |
| At the hearing then. | 00:19:10 | |
| You're welcome to show your one sided argument. | 00:19:12 | |
| You know, and we will show our argument. We are however. | 00:19:14 | |
| Still providing service for the county. | 00:19:19 | |
| We're not talking about improving, Sir. We're still providing service to all the county, including Magdalena. | 00:19:22 | |
| That's not stopped. I did read that and I thank you Sir and. | 00:19:28 | |
| I do think that we need to focus on improving service. | 00:19:33 | |
| Not just maintaining service. Well, yeah, that's certainly. | 00:19:37 | |
| Your opinion at this point I think. | 00:19:41 | |
| I'd like to have, I'd like, I'd like to have orthopedic surgeons here. I'd like to have cardiothoracic surgeons. | 00:19:45 | |
| I would like to have. | 00:19:50 | |
| Paramedics on every ambulance. | 00:19:52 | |
| Times 3 or 4 then all that. | 00:19:54 | |
| That's a budgetary question and again, that's that's for another time. We're talking about the. | 00:19:56 | |
| The the services that are at present. | 00:20:02 | |
| Given by the city to the county, that's what we're talking about. I agree. So them I think is another topic. | 00:20:05 | |
| OK, so the county manager made an offer. | 00:20:11 | |
| To provide 2 firefighters or funding for two firefighters. | 00:20:16 | |
| And to create an EMS committee. | 00:20:20 | |
| In order to talk about these issues collectively so. | 00:20:23 | |
| We told you that that was at your previous meeting and at the previous meeting we also talked about the 300,000. | 00:20:27 | |
| That that's coming from the county services, by the way, It's not a secret. | 00:20:34 | |
| Actually just showed 325. I'm just here saying that I support the creation of an EMS committee. | 00:20:38 | |
| That is representative of the City Council and the county. | 00:20:45 | |
| In order to talk about how to improve services. | 00:20:49 | |
| We have an 18 month old child. I know you. I know you're about the money. | 00:20:53 | |
| Mr. Mayor. | 00:20:57 | |
| That's more than that. We had an 18 month old child died six weeks ago. | 00:20:59 | |
| And if we had a paramedic respond? | 00:21:03 | |
| That child might still be a lot. | 00:21:05 | |
| You want me to look up all the people that might have been hurt by lack of services here because we were in Vegita? Is that the | 00:21:07 | |
| tragic stories you want to hear? I don't want to hear tragic stories. | 00:21:12 | |
| I want to say you and I both have been trying to save lives for 50 years. Don't be telling me about saving lives. I'm telling you. | 00:21:18 | |
| That the brinks a point like you just came up with about limiter and I don't know the specifics and I don't know the time. | 00:21:26 | |
| Span it took to get out there and all that. I can tell you stories about here, my patients. | 00:21:33 | |
| Who sometimes have. | 00:21:38 | |
| Not been able to get service because our ambulances were in Socorro. | 00:21:39 | |
| In Sapporo County. | 00:21:43 | |
| So, you know, we're not going to go *** for tat, but I'm not trying to. Heartbreaking stories, Those are heartbreaking. | 00:21:45 | |
| But that that's not going to serve us any purpose. | 00:21:50 | |
| When we're talking about this kind of service, do you think that the service we provide now is adequate? | 00:21:54 | |
| With our monies, it is adequate, is more than adequate actually, because there's a lot of counties who don't even have the service | 00:22:00 | |
| and a lot of cities who don't supply that service. There are communities around the country, almost all of them who have an | 00:22:05 | |
| expectation. | 00:22:09 | |
| That they're going to be paramedics as part of the EMS response. | 00:22:14 | |
| Well, I I think this Albuquerque is just going through that right now. | 00:22:18 | |
| I think Bernal County had it but. | 00:22:22 | |
| I think Albuquerque is talking about paramedics on ambulance services also. | 00:22:24 | |
| And who goes out at the time? That is, there's a call. | 00:22:29 | |
| That's that's another topic. | 00:22:32 | |
| Right now if you want to specifically talk about. | 00:22:34 | |
| County share of paying for ambulance. | 00:22:37 | |
| That is a topic we're on right now. OK, We can always improve service. OK. So let me let me give you another example of why an EMS | 00:22:40 | |
| committee might be beneficial. | 00:22:44 | |
| I sent an e-mail to 62 of my EMT students last night. | 00:22:49 | |
| Asking that if there were a part-time EMS only position, it's a coral fire. | 00:22:53 | |
| Would they be willing to work a 12 hour shift a week? | 00:22:58 | |
| And Seven came back instantly and said yes. | 00:23:01 | |
| Now that position doesn't exist. | 00:23:04 | |
| Some were willing to do that as volunteers. | 00:23:06 | |
| But everyone of those who is on a truck. | 00:23:09 | |
| Is going to keep a career firefighter here in Sakura? | 00:23:12 | |
| That is a short term having such an application and we'll take a look and see what's possible. Well, those positions, they | 00:23:15 | |
| certainly haven't approached me, but I'm happy to look at that. I just, it was an idea. I just pulled some of my people, they | 00:23:21 | |
| would be willing to step up and help with the staffing issue in the short term. That's great. | 00:23:28 | |
| So an EMS committee could talk about those kind of ideas and come up with short term, medium term and long term solutions and | 00:23:35 | |
| proposals. | 00:23:39 | |
| In order to. | 00:23:44 | |
| I dare say. | 00:23:46 | |
| Improve the service. | 00:23:47 | |
| Of EMS providers or EMS services in the city and the county. | 00:23:49 | |
| And that's all I'm asking for. It's not acceptable. | 00:23:55 | |
| That's not acceptable to create an EMS committee, no. So you don't want to work with the county? | 00:23:57 | |
| You don't want to work with the public. Good times up. Thank you, Sir. I'm not gonna sit here and argue. | 00:24:02 | |
| Seem to argue with pretty much everybody, Sir. | 00:24:08 | |
| You personally, you, especially when you bring up documents that are really untested and uncorroborated. | 00:24:11 | |
| You know, and put him on the screen. | 00:24:19 | |
| I don't mind arguing with anybody who's not, you know, really helping the city out. | 00:24:21 | |
| Mr. Baca, Mr. Mayor, I just want to, I just want to say something about my department, you know. | 00:24:25 | |
| As far as the call that he's talking about, you know, my guys did a wonderful job. | 00:24:31 | |
| It is an absolutely wonderful job. | 00:24:36 | |
| We did what we could do, OK? | 00:24:38 | |
| So I just want to clarify that that that my department. | 00:24:41 | |
| Is doing a wonderful job. | 00:24:44 | |
| OK. We talk about hiring positions. | 00:24:46 | |
| Again, we're talking about part time positions. | 00:24:48 | |
| Where's the money gonna come from? We need help. | 00:24:51 | |
| To pay these people. | 00:24:53 | |
| I came to when this all started again. I came. I don't care. | 00:24:56 | |
| Personally, I don't care where the money comes from. | 00:25:01 | |
| We just need help. | 00:25:03 | |
| To avoid. | 00:25:04 | |
| A situation that's bound to happen and it's going to cost a lot more money than it is. | 00:25:07 | |
| To hire three more people. | 00:25:11 | |
| That's all I want to say so. | 00:25:13 | |
| My guys are doing a wonderful job. | 00:25:16 | |
| Around that call, they did a great job. | 00:25:18 | |
| They did what they could. | 00:25:20 | |
| That's only thank you, Chief. | 00:25:22 | |
| All right. Thank you, Sir. You have a good evening. Mary, are you want to say anything? | 00:25:24 | |
| I would like to comment on the EMT on the EMT's UMM. | 00:25:39 | |
| I think that they've improved a lot in the last 12 years. | 00:25:44 | |
| When I had called an ambulance for my mom 12 years ago. | 00:25:49 | |
| My mom. | 00:25:55 | |
| Was probably. | 00:25:57 | |
| Having a stroke at the time and the EMT's were just asking her questions and asking her questions. | 00:25:59 | |
| And I was answering the questions and answering the questions and telling them get her to the hospital, get her to the hospital | 00:26:05 | |
| because they wasn't doing anything. | 00:26:09 | |
| My mom was vomiting. | 00:26:13 | |
| Unresponsive and. | 00:26:17 | |
| They just kept asking questions, so I think. | 00:26:19 | |
| That, uh. | 00:26:22 | |
| Nothing has really improved in the last 12 years. | 00:26:24 | |
| So thank you. | 00:26:30 | |
| But letting me say that. | 00:26:32 | |
| But anyways. | 00:26:35 | |
| Today my reason for being here is. | 00:26:37 | |
| I had went to. | 00:26:42 | |
| One a year. | 00:26:44 | |
| Police Commission boards not that long ago. | 00:26:47 | |
| And I was having the. | 00:26:50 | |
| Problem with one of your officers. | 00:26:52 | |
| Because one time he had pulled me over and kept instigating me. | 00:26:57 | |
| After he gave me my citations, he wouldn't let me go. He would instigate me. I was on the clock. | 00:27:02 | |
| Umm, I was taking care of my mom and my son at the time. | 00:27:11 | |
| So I kept telling them, you know, I gotta go, I gotta go. I gotta go get their prescription. | 00:27:15 | |
| The second time, he. | 00:27:20 | |
| Well, the first time he pulled me over for speeding. | 00:27:22 | |
| How he did that I have no clue because there was like three or four other people around me, but he picked me out instead. | 00:27:24 | |
| The second time I admit it was my fault. | 00:27:32 | |
| Because we were at a three-way stop and. | 00:27:36 | |
| This was the same officer. | 00:27:41 | |
| I was coming up Fisher and there was. | 00:27:43 | |
| An officer on this item and another car on the side. | 00:27:46 | |
| And we all sat there for 5 minutes. | 00:27:50 | |
| OK, umm. | 00:27:53 | |
| I was tired that night. | 00:27:56 | |
| We were just sitting there. Everybody was playing a guessing game, I guess. I don't know. | 00:28:00 | |
| I didn't feel like playing a guessing game, so I took off. | 00:28:05 | |
| So I got pulled over. I admit that one was my fault. OK, so I paid the fine. | 00:28:10 | |
| Got the points on my record. | 00:28:18 | |
| The first time was not my fault. | 00:28:20 | |
| The third time, here we go again. | 00:28:23 | |
| OK, on January 25th. | 00:28:26 | |
| I was coming back from Las Cruces. | 00:28:29 | |
| My daughter had a baby on the 18th. | 00:28:32 | |
| And we thought we were going to lose her so. | 00:28:37 | |
| We were back and forth between. | 00:28:41 | |
| I was back and forth between here and there. | 00:28:45 | |
| Trying to keep my jobs, trying to take care of my daughter. | 00:28:48 | |
| Her other four kids were screaming, crying. | 00:28:54 | |
| I had no idea what to do as a grandmother. I thought I failed. | 00:28:58 | |
| OK. | 00:29:04 | |
| When you can't get your. | 00:29:05 | |
| When you're old and your 3 year old grandchildren to stop screaming and crying. | 00:29:08 | |
| You're you're a failure. | 00:29:14 | |
| They screamed and cried for three days. | 00:29:17 | |
| My daughter and her husband were. | 00:29:20 | |
| In a panic. | 00:29:25 | |
| We were all traumatized. | 00:29:28 | |
| For two or three weeks. | 00:29:31 | |
| Then I come back. | 00:29:33 | |
| That night on the 25th. | 00:29:35 | |
| Umm, you know I. | 00:29:37 | |
| No, I was coming into town. | 00:29:43 | |
| I was not in my right friend of mine, I can admit it. | 00:29:48 | |
| I admit my mistakes. | 00:29:52 | |
| I don't do anything illegal. I don't do anything wrong. I try not to do anything wrong. I just try to, you know, be the best | 00:29:56 | |
| person I can. But. | 00:29:59 | |
| I thought I was a failure for three weeks. | 00:30:03 | |
| So here I am, coming home. | 00:30:07 | |
| Leaving my daughter with her five kids. | 00:30:10 | |
| Umm, I get pulled over by the same officer. | 00:30:13 | |
| But yet I still know my surroundings and I was on the inside lane. | 00:30:19 | |
| And he got behind me. I don't know where he came from. | 00:30:28 | |
| But there was a car on the right side of me. | 00:30:31 | |
| So when he turned his lights on, I couldn't pull over. | 00:30:35 | |
| So I had to go into the turning lane to where I had to make a U-turn because I didn't want to hit the car that was on the side of | 00:30:41 | |
| me. | 00:30:44 | |
| It was a little bit of ways ahead of me. | 00:30:48 | |
| But yet he picked me out. | 00:30:51 | |
| Again. | 00:30:53 | |
| OK. | 00:30:55 | |
| But Miss Cole, did you go to the police oversight committee with this? Yes, I did. You get a resolution. | 00:30:58 | |
| They favored the officer. | 00:31:05 | |
| The officer did no wrongdoing. | 00:31:08 | |
| But I I guess I mean I I. | 00:31:12 | |
| Appreciate your situation, we've all been. | 00:31:15 | |
| With grandchildren that have just. | 00:31:17 | |
| Totally freaking out, you know, having problems but. | 00:31:19 | |
| I guess my question is going to be whether? | 00:31:23 | |
| What it is that we can prove as a city? The thing The thing is today is. | 00:31:25 | |
| You know. | 00:31:30 | |
| When I go. | 00:31:32 | |
| OK. | 00:31:34 | |
| What I'm not understanding here is. | 00:31:36 | |
| I'm surrounded the first time he pulled me off. | 00:31:39 | |
| The first time this happened. | 00:31:42 | |
| He assaulted my husband in the Walmart parking lot. | 00:31:45 | |
| But you did tell everybody, the police oversight committee, yes, all that information. | 00:31:48 | |
| Who said it on it? Paul. | 00:31:54 | |
| Did they, did they have any further things that they needed to say? No the the attorney. | 00:31:56 | |
| Said that the police followed procedure. | 00:32:02 | |
| What about the complaint about the husband? | 00:32:05 | |
| Being an altercation at all that was brought up on that one when brought up. | 00:32:08 | |
| Mary, I just, I think we're kind of stuck. | 00:32:14 | |
| Kind of OK. See, The thing is what's happening now is when I went to court this morning. | 00:32:16 | |
| I was found guilty again of speeding, but yet. | 00:32:25 | |
| These people around me. | 00:32:29 | |
| You know, how does he know I was speeding? | 00:32:31 | |
| When there was a car on the side of me. | 00:32:35 | |
| Ahead of me. | 00:32:37 | |
| When I couldn't pull over when he was behind me. | 00:32:39 | |
| I just, you know, I don't understand. I just think, I just think now that now that he's found me guilty three times in front of | 00:32:43 | |
| this officer, I think he's going to continue to harass me. Well, I'll talk with the police chief. | 00:32:49 | |
| And I will speak to the police chief about that. | 00:32:57 | |
| They're probably going to pull my license because this is the third time that he's doing this to me and I've heard he's. | 00:33:04 | |
| You know, I sympathize with you. I just can't go over whatever the judge did I. | 00:33:15 | |
| You know, as exclaimed council and mayor, I just. | 00:33:19 | |
| OK, see this is what? | 00:33:21 | |
| What I want happen? | 00:33:24 | |
| OK, I paid. | 00:33:27 | |
| The $115.00 fine to be. | 00:33:29 | |
| Which I should not have paid because I would rather go spend the night in one of your jail cells. | 00:33:33 | |
| Make do for what that. | 00:33:39 | |
| To pay $150.00 instead so I can go buy me groceries and my mom and my son groceries. | 00:33:42 | |
| But how do I get my $115.00 back and spend the night in your jail? | 00:33:49 | |
| I don't care if I'm sick, I don't care if I'm on blood thinners. I want to spend the night in your jail. Let me talk to the judge | 00:33:53 | |
| and let's see if there's some way we can help you with that. | 00:33:58 | |
| We certainly don't want to because of the fact is I want to appeal because he's going to continue to harass me. | 00:34:02 | |
| Because he knows that I've been guilty three times already and he's probably laughing his head off. | 00:34:09 | |
| I will make sure the police chief make sure that's treated properly. | 00:34:14 | |
| And hopefully. | 00:34:18 | |
| Well, not hopefully I will have a talk with a police chief because I went back to work today with. | 00:34:20 | |
| I was sitting there. | 00:34:25 | |
| I had called. | 00:34:27 | |
| I had called the Sheriff's Office. | 00:34:29 | |
| Yesterday. | 00:34:32 | |
| And I had asked them. | 00:34:34 | |
| To umm. | 00:34:36 | |
| To have a sheriff go in with me. | 00:34:38 | |
| Because I've been having problems with 35 or 30 boys in their 30 years old. | 00:34:41 | |
| Because let me let me talk to the picture was that the municipal judge or the magistrate? The municipal judge, I will have a talk | 00:34:47 | |
| with Judge Gutierrez and. | 00:34:51 | |
| And also I was also assaulted at the urgent care on the 21st when you wasn't at work. | 00:34:56 | |
| Well, I still have contrast in my arm, but I was assaulted by the security guard and he was in his 30s also. So I'm getting kind | 00:35:05 | |
| of. | 00:35:09 | |
| Up to here with these boys in their 30s that were not disciplined. | 00:35:14 | |
| I understand what you're going through, it's just. | 00:35:18 | |
| It's difficult for us to resolve this here at this kind of a setting, so I wanted I want to know how. | 00:35:20 | |
| I can go about soon as police officer, that's something separate, but I will talk to the judge and I will see what we can help you | 00:35:26 | |
| with. | 00:35:30 | |
| But as far as lawsuit legal, I think that's your right. | 00:35:34 | |
| That you'd have to go to a civil lawyer to do that. I can't. I can't tell you anything. Go to. | 00:35:38 | |
| File a complaint. | 00:35:45 | |
| I think. | 00:35:49 | |
| Venue that the city has is the police oversight committee. | 00:35:50 | |
| With a third party lawyer that has nothing to do with the city. | 00:35:54 | |
| And they're the ones that are given the task. | 00:35:58 | |
| Making sure that whatever happened with the police. | 00:36:01 | |
| And a citizen. | 00:36:05 | |
| Was justified. | 00:36:06 | |
| And I have to live with their decision as. | 00:36:07 | |
| Both parties have to do that. | 00:36:11 | |
| As far as what the judge finds you, if there's some way we can help with that, I will try to do that, but I. | 00:36:13 | |
| Like I said, there was a car on the side of me going faster than me and he picked me just like the first time. | 00:36:19 | |
| But Mary, I can't adjudicate that. I mean, that's I don't have the question. Then when he, the second time he pulled me over, he | 00:36:25 | |
| was yelling at me. That's assault. | 00:36:30 | |
| I'm gonna make sure that this is no kind of retaliation. | 00:36:35 | |
| Against you by this police. I will look into Amman. | 00:36:38 | |
| Promise to look into what is going on. | 00:36:42 | |
| Promised to look into that. | 00:36:45 | |
| You know I mean. | 00:36:46 | |
| I can see, you know. | 00:36:48 | |
| My son is in his 30s. | 00:36:51 | |
| And but let me let me just because his problems, but that was because he was in a car accident. | 00:36:55 | |
| So I don't. | 00:37:03 | |
| But I disciplined him and I spanked the **** out of him when he did something wrong. If you have time on Thursday. | 00:37:05 | |
| Come to City Hall. I will look into it tomorrow for sure. | 00:37:11 | |
| But this officer like OK, when? | 00:37:15 | |
| When I was in registry court on the 13th. | 00:37:21 | |
| Because my son-in-law was having issues. | 00:37:26 | |
| Let me look into your problem. | 00:37:30 | |
| OK. So I'll look into that. I'm sure absolutely promised that I will do that. OK, but look. | 00:37:32 | |
| I. | 00:37:38 | |
| I went back to work with my hands all red and my beans popped out and I can even do my job right. | 00:37:40 | |
| Because I was so scared to be mistaken. | 00:37:47 | |
| Look into the police officer with the Chief of Police and I will look into your fine of $115.00 to see if we can help you with | 00:37:50 | |
| that. | 00:37:54 | |
| I'm not going to spend the night in your jail cell. Well, I don't want you to spend them that we've already gone through. You | 00:37:58 | |
| don't want you to be. | 00:38:01 | |
| On the job. | 00:38:04 | |
| Because they're going to make me lose my license, and if I lose my license, I can't do my job. | 00:38:07 | |
| Thanks again. Thanks for coming. | 00:38:17 | |
| Anyone else that's not on the agenda would like to make a comment? Yes Sir. | 00:38:20 | |
| You didn't have to get dressed up for us. | 00:38:31 | |
| I know most of you, and some of you I don't. Hello. | 00:38:36 | |
| I'm with the New Mexico Socorro Compiro Humanos. | 00:38:40 | |
| And we're a big part of our history and our culture here in Sapporo, in the central part of New Mexico. | 00:38:43 | |
| Where we tribalizing? | 00:38:51 | |
| And we want to come home, a lot of us, and we wanted our culture to be recognized and our heritage be brought back on. | 00:38:53 | |
| We're listed as extinct people and an extinct tribe and culture. | 00:39:01 | |
| Right now, a lot of us are tribalized with the cabination Cherokee. | 00:39:06 | |
| Apaches. | 00:39:12 | |
| That we tribalize with. | 00:39:13 | |
| We want to, we want to come back and be our own entity under our humanocompetals that we work. | 00:39:16 | |
| Or here in our place. | 00:39:21 | |
| We have a lot of years in this place though. | 00:39:24 | |
| We don't. We want to preserve our culture and stop seeing it being lost, our sacred sites, things that are around here. | 00:39:27 | |
| That ain't being protected and we lose. | 00:39:34 | |
| We use a lot of history when we lose that, so we're just we want to look for some actions. | 00:39:37 | |
| On seeing if we can be recognized in our own city and our own habitat where we're from. | 00:39:43 | |
| And you know right now, not asking for actions, just asking. | 00:39:49 | |
| See what help we can get to proceed forward for our tribe and for our people and our culture and heritage. | 00:39:53 | |
| Victor, do you have a? | 00:39:59 | |
| Are there people here that you know of that are in your tribe? Yeah. There's several people around the town that are in our truck. | 00:40:01 | |
| You know, we've actually been approached by two other tribes. The heroes. Yeah. And. | 00:40:07 | |
| Don't think of the other trilogy got three names. | 00:40:15 | |
| And I was proposing some sort of a. | 00:40:19 | |
| Although 23 Andme is defunct. | 00:40:23 | |
| Is to check people's history, so you could define how many people are here. | 00:40:25 | |
| With that heritage, yeah, we and I might work with Chelsea on that. | 00:40:30 | |
| To try to get some sort of. | 00:40:35 | |
| You know, because we want to have some documentation of what the heritage is. Yeah, we got most of that. Most of our tribal | 00:40:37 | |
| people. We can go back in all the way to Tahiti. | 00:40:41 | |
| Where we were in novel in through there. | 00:40:46 | |
| And the manzanas. And then we came back in and we, you know, most of that's done. | 00:40:49 | |
| The chair Taiwan has the blood quantum. | 00:40:54 | |
| That you got to have a blood of, you know, some paper history on that at all. Yeah, we've got a lot of paper history. And, you | 00:40:57 | |
| know, our big Pueblo was the grand Cueva that was called Los Fumanos. | 00:41:02 | |
| If you and Selena Sonic if you have. | 00:41:09 | |
| Can you drop it by sometime? We can copy it or take it by the library so we can copy it. Yeah. I think we should document some of | 00:41:11 | |
| that history. Yes. Thank you. That's all I'm asking for. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for coming with you. | 00:41:18 | |
| Anyone else? | 00:41:25 | |
| OK, now we get something that we've got little heat. I got a little heated, Mr. Mayor. | 00:41:27 | |
| Who me? You. | 00:41:32 | |
| I just, I just wanted to let you know that the. | 00:41:36 | |
| Basketball team left you, I think you know, they're pretty good. | 00:41:39 | |
| What's next, NBA? | 00:41:42 | |
| Hopefully you can help me retire. | 00:41:45 | |
| Congratulations. That's great. | 00:41:48 | |
| OK, now back to Segura County AMT firefighter discussion. | 00:41:51 | |
| I will do whatever the Council would like. | 00:41:56 | |
| But at this point. | 00:41:59 | |
| We will have a hearing. | 00:42:00 | |
| And we will. | 00:42:03 | |
| Present the City side and the county is welcome to present the county side. | 00:42:05 | |
| But the Department of Transportation will want to hear it. | 00:42:09 | |
| I still maintain. | 00:42:14 | |
| That the compensation from the county is. | 00:42:16 | |
| Not enough. | 00:42:19 | |
| For us to continue doing this for any length of time. | 00:42:20 | |
| And if the. | 00:42:24 | |
| County if the council. | 00:42:25 | |
| Would like to put Commission together another committee and work with the county on. | 00:42:28 | |
| What we can do is just. The bottom line is. | 00:42:33 | |
| I didn't have that kind of an overture when they just dropped the Senior Center. | 00:42:36 | |
| I didn't have any overtures like that when they used our recreation. I can go and itemize a whole bunch of stuff too. | 00:42:42 | |
| But the bottom line is that we are overextended. | 00:42:48 | |
| And if the Council wants to, at the next meeting, present some sort of a. | 00:42:52 | |
| A committee to talk to the county, That's fine. | 00:42:59 | |
| But I am unbending. | 00:43:02 | |
| The desire to have the county. | 00:43:04 | |
| Participate. | 00:43:07 | |
| For what their services they're getting. | 00:43:08 | |
| And they could put up the numbers. | 00:43:12 | |
| But in order to have a standing ambulance service. | 00:43:16 | |
| Whether even if you don't do even one? | 00:43:21 | |
| You still have to expend a tremendous amount of money to have it established. | 00:43:25 | |
| So again. | 00:43:30 | |
| If they said I'm not really. | 00:43:32 | |
| I'm not in favor of having. | 00:43:35 | |
| Meeting, I think. I think the meeting should be. | 00:43:38 | |
| At the. | 00:43:40 | |
| Hearing when we have the hearing with the Department of Transportation. | 00:43:44 | |
| And let the chips fall where they and have a third party come. | 00:43:47 | |
| And look at our situation. | 00:43:51 | |
| I really think a lot of the. | 00:43:53 | |
| The rhetoric has gotten out of hand. | 00:43:55 | |
| But again, I'm amending an. | 00:43:58 | |
| And what kind of a budget we need? And Chief has already said 3 is minimum. | 00:44:01 | |
| But. | 00:44:06 | |
| At the. | 00:44:08 | |
| Behest of the counselors for whatever they'd like to do. | 00:44:10 | |
| And start some conversation with the county. I'd be more than happy to do that. It's just that. | 00:44:13 | |
| We've been talking to the county manager. County manager has circumvented. | 00:44:18 | |
| Myself and has been talking to other people has never come to me. | 00:44:22 | |
| Other than one specific. | 00:44:25 | |
| Response which is but that was not even. | 00:44:27 | |
| It was a it was a offer for two. | 00:44:31 | |
| But it was not an offer for continuity, it was just an offer for. | 00:44:34 | |
| I think what did they say? 3 or 4 years and that's it. | 00:44:37 | |
| But I think the decision has to be with the Commission to, not just the manager. That's my favorite. | 00:44:40 | |
| You know, I mean, the manager can say all he wants, but. | 00:44:46 | |
| Unless the unless the county Commission agrees. | 00:44:49 | |
| And there are two kind of commissioners that have all their precinct. | 00:44:52 | |
| In the city and so. | 00:44:56 | |
| The city is the county. I mean, it's part of the county. | 00:44:59 | |
| Services that the county provides. | 00:45:03 | |
| Basically women. | 00:45:08 | |
| We even think we're not taking care of. | 00:45:10 | |
| Vegeta Senior Center. Right now we're looking at a septic tank problem. | 00:45:12 | |
| Out there. | 00:45:17 | |
| The city is working in the county so but. | 00:45:18 | |
| You know again, Mr. Salami. | 00:45:23 | |
| Maybe it would be a good. | 00:45:26 | |
| Step to have a committee, a few counselors, meet with a few commissioners. | 00:45:28 | |
| And an informal basis just to kick out, kick around some ideas and maybe we can. | 00:45:35 | |
| What do you think would be? | 00:45:41 | |
| Chances of opinion is that. | 00:45:44 | |
| Because I know that. | 00:45:48 | |
| That what, what what percentage is Magdalena not having these services? | 00:45:49 | |
| Putting a. | 00:45:55 | |
| Damper on this? | 00:45:58 | |
| You know, I think in all fairness, and I've said that before. | 00:46:00 | |
| Is that the county financially is in a much better situation to be able to. | 00:46:04 | |
| Come up with that, especially since they unloaded the Senior Center. | 00:46:08 | |
| For $350,000. | 00:46:12 | |
| Magdalena, in my opinion, and I don't, I don't have an intimate knowledge of their budget. | 00:46:14 | |
| I just have a feeling that they would have difficulty in coming up with $80,000 a year. | 00:46:19 | |
| Financially, so I am more I'm inclined to be. | 00:46:24 | |
| Be able to work with Magdalena a little bit. | 00:46:29 | |
| Easier they have an ambulance, a brand new one that. | 00:46:32 | |
| I think the city could use and we could trade them an older one. | 00:46:34 | |
| And but I'd really I always said that those are two separate issues that. | 00:46:37 | |
| The county and Magdalena would be on a separate track and negotiations. | 00:46:42 | |
| Because I don't think the county wants to negotiate for Magdalena either. | 00:46:46 | |
| Council decides that they want to. | 00:46:52 | |
| Meet with some commissioners. I'm willing to sit on that well if I can have a Marianne and you guys you you know more about the | 00:46:54 | |
| county too with your. | 00:46:58 | |
| With your region 7, if you 2 want to meet with the commissioners I can. | 00:47:02 | |
| Donald, if you make an offer to the. | 00:47:07 | |
| County manager that Really. | 00:47:10 | |
| There were there are two city councilors would like to meet with two county commissioners. | 00:47:12 | |
| About the future of ambulance service in the county, I think that's not a bad. | 00:47:17 | |
| Start and I think. | 00:47:22 | |
| Not only the county manager, but. | 00:47:24 | |
| Reach out to the count to them. So it'd be Commissioner. | 00:47:27 | |
| Chair of the Commission as well. Yeah, I think Mr. Secretaro is the chair and. | 00:47:36 | |
| I think, Huh. | 00:47:41 | |
| It's connected. Joe is the chair and. | 00:47:42 | |
| Maybe their vice chair? | 00:47:47 | |
| Maybe 2:00 and 2:00. | 00:47:49 | |
| I think that would be good, but. | 00:47:50 | |
| And you know if you guys can bring some sort of a. | 00:47:52 | |
| Think back, but again, I am. | 00:47:57 | |
| I'm telling you that the. | 00:47:59 | |
| The offer that they have is not adequate and I feel it's not either. But I mean we, we can negotiate more. | 00:48:02 | |
| Right. But you know, I mean we're negotiating from a. | 00:48:08 | |
| A point of zero to 100% is what we're doing. But anyway. | 00:48:11 | |
| Mr. Mayor, OK, let's do that. Just for some clarification, you've already requested to do the state that to decrease the service | 00:48:15 | |
| area. | 00:48:19 | |
| We have had a preliminary request as to what. | 00:48:24 | |
| They want from us and they want a whole bunch of statistics and. | 00:48:27 | |
| And information and that's what we're providing now. | 00:48:30 | |
| And then from there, that that's where the hearing comes. | 00:48:33 | |
| We have not met an official. | 00:48:36 | |
| The what? The chief could tell me what they specifically wanted. | 00:48:39 | |
| And that includes Ketron County, too, by the way. | 00:48:43 | |
| Because we also go out to Kevin County. | 00:48:46 | |
| And touching. We're not bringing catching county to the table. | 00:48:48 | |
| Well, so, so right now we've already filled out the paperwork to amend. | 00:48:51 | |
| Ketchikan County out of our service area. | 00:48:56 | |
| That's already been sent off. | 00:48:59 | |
| We had to pay a fine, all that stuff. | 00:49:01 | |
| Now we have to. There's another a bunch of people we have to fill out now. Lena and I are working on that now. | 00:49:03 | |
| They're asking for a bunch of information. | 00:49:08 | |
| Though we see the paperwork once we're done collecting all that information and though they might want to have a hearing. | 00:49:11 | |
| And I've been speaking with Nicholas Harmel, who was the guy that's in charge of At the dot. | 00:49:16 | |
| The Department of Transportation and. | 00:49:21 | |
| He's, he's working with us on all this. So as soon as we get all this paperwork filled out, all the information together, we'll | 00:49:23 | |
| send it off. And if they want to have a hearing at that point. | 00:49:27 | |
| Then they'll request our side and the county side to. | 00:49:31 | |
| To do that, Mister Mayor, but Coral County specifically. | 00:49:35 | |
| Socorro County, Yeah, we're looking to cut out the county area. | 00:49:41 | |
| From uh. | 00:49:44 | |
| Every which way from that request has already been sent. | 00:49:45 | |
| Oh, print them there. No, we have. We have. We're putting together some paperwork for it in this folder that we're hearing well if | 00:49:49 | |
| we request it. | 00:49:53 | |
| Will happen. | 00:49:58 | |
| And, and, but I don't think they're going to make a decision without a hearing. | 00:50:00 | |
| That's my my answer. | 00:50:05 | |
| So if it's their decision, so if we request to take away or to to remove the. | 00:50:07 | |
| Service area for the entire county. | 00:50:14 | |
| The Department of Transportation will make that decision or is that still a council decision or is that administration? It's a | 00:50:17 | |
| Department of Transportation. So so they're they're not going to just. | 00:50:21 | |
| Drop the the county area they're going to. We have to justify why we're wanting to drop it. | 00:50:27 | |
| And by the talks that I've had with him. | 00:50:32 | |
| We have justification as to why we want to drop it, so there's there's really no council decision on it as it sits. | 00:50:35 | |
| The council cannot decide, or the mayor cannot decide to drop Conservative as it sits. | 00:50:42 | |
| We are bound by a document that says we're giving services and we can't drop that document without this hearing. | 00:50:48 | |
| But that's why, that's why, that's why I think. | 00:50:56 | |
| That meeting with the county and the city together, because, I mean. | 00:50:59 | |
| I want to see it dropped, but I know that we need, we need more money from the. I don't want to see it dropped. | 00:51:04 | |
| But at the same, because those are our neighbors, those we have relatives there that live within the county, I want to see that | 00:51:11 | |
| done. | 00:51:15 | |
| You know, but we need, that's why we need to have the meeting. | 00:51:19 | |
| To try and negotiate with accounting, but I guess my question is, is it going to be the council? Is it is well ultimately be the | 00:51:22 | |
| Council's decision to decide whether or not we relinquish? | 00:51:27 | |
| To decide to have the hearing, if you say to me. | 00:51:34 | |
| We don't want the Department of Transportation stepping in to make a decision, then we'll just drop. | 00:51:39 | |
| Mr. Mayor, a question for that question. So what are we going to vote on whether or not we want the hearing or is it eventually, | 00:51:46 | |
| once we get out of the paperwork and the council councillors meet? And yeah, this is going to take months, it's not going to | 00:51:52 | |
| happen overnight and I was wondering the time. | 00:51:57 | |
| Looking at the fiscal year July. | 00:52:04 | |
| It's a it's a process we're not going to. We'll submit the paperwork. | 00:52:07 | |
| If they request a hearing. | 00:52:10 | |
| Then it'll be up to you guys if you guys want to pursue it from there on and we'll go from there. So be their way. There's going | 00:52:12 | |
| to be a hearing. | 00:52:15 | |
| If they don't like, if they think that it's going to be just the father, just the Powerball, they're going to have a hearing to | 00:52:18 | |
| make it official through the Department of Transportation, whether or not we remove service to the entire county, correct. | 00:52:24 | |
| Unless we come up with a solution. | 00:52:30 | |
| Two points, one for Thief. | 00:52:34 | |
| I would imagine if we. | 00:52:38 | |
| That they did approve that we went through this and they did approve dropping services for the county they would. | 00:52:39 | |
| Have to have, they would have to have the county pick up and have their own service. I would imagine that was what I would think. | 00:52:44 | |
| Well, that's, that's correct. That's where we're at right now. You have to either start the county department or they would have | 00:52:49 | |
| to find some private ambulance service to come in and sure. | 00:52:55 | |
| Support those areas. | 00:53:00 | |
| And then Mr. Merritt's just to clarify that the request going back to the original request is? | 00:53:01 | |
| Three additional EMS. | 00:53:06 | |
| Paper by the county was the initial request in order to. | 00:53:09 | |
| Help Chief Baca staff keep up with the calls. | 00:53:13 | |
| And that would still be what you would. | 00:53:17 | |
| Consider under just bare minimum to what you need to keep up with the calls that you're currently dealing with. Again guys, 3 the | 00:53:19 | |
| minimum, right? | 00:53:24 | |
| 3/3 no, and that's not going to fix the problem, but it's going to help. That gives us 6 people on each shift. | 00:53:28 | |
| Technically, you're supposed to. I mean, you're supposed to legally you're supposed to have two licensed personnel on each call. | 00:53:34 | |
| So that's three calls that we can run that at one time if they all came on at the same time. | 00:53:38 | |
| OK, so. | 00:53:43 | |
| Bottom line is with the with the service we provide. | 00:53:44 | |
| For the county, city. | 00:53:48 | |
| Hospital transfers, all that. | 00:53:50 | |
| With the amount of staff and we have, it's taken a toll. | 00:53:51 | |
| One final question. | 00:53:55 | |
| And not to put the cart before the horse. Obviously this needs to get taken care of first. | 00:53:58 | |
| Would would anybody be if all this got clarified and we got the adequate staffing that we need? | 00:54:02 | |
| And we found a way. | 00:54:08 | |
| To get. | 00:54:09 | |
| More crucial services on the ambulances, people are people opposed to that if we can get. | 00:54:12 | |
| Again the clerk. | 00:54:18 | |
| Don't put the cart before the horse, but if you got paramedics, sure. I mean, if this was got under control and you felt like you | 00:54:19 | |
| had this burger has a good handle on that. | 00:54:23 | |
| But depending on how you would staff it. | 00:54:27 | |
| And when you're talking about. | 00:54:31 | |
| For an 8 hour shift. | 00:54:33 | |
| You're talking about four. | 00:54:35 | |
| So they can have the shift and have some time off. | 00:54:37 | |
| So but if we can put that to put 4 paramedics into the budget. | 00:54:39 | |
| And I may be way off but a paramedic at this point. | 00:54:44 | |
| I think it's demanding at least $40.00 an hour. I'm not sure what. | 00:54:47 | |
| So. So you're talking about. | 00:54:56 | |
| That and that's a significant. | 00:54:58 | |
| And again, I'm not sure what the. | 00:55:01 | |
| The uh, uh. | 00:55:05 | |
| Standard of care. | 00:55:07 | |
| When it comes to. | 00:55:09 | |
| Having the number on each ambulance. | 00:55:11 | |
| And whether we're at risk, somebody saying well. | 00:55:14 | |
| How come I'm getting a paramedic on this ambulance and you got one on this one in the morning? | 00:55:17 | |
| I mean, all those things are no good deal. | 00:55:22 | |
| But yeah, I mean, I think great, I would love to have paramedics. | 00:55:25 | |
| I'm sure Chief would too. It's just first issue taking right now we're not even adequately supplying enough services. | 00:55:28 | |
| To the city, that's that's the major problem. That's that's the way I went through it just to clarify and I will tell you why I'm | 00:55:36 | |
| so. | 00:55:39 | |
| Heated discussion. | 00:55:44 | |
| We didn't have this discussion when they dropped the Senior Center. | 00:55:46 | |
| You know what happened there. | 00:55:50 | |
| They just said here, we're leaving. | 00:55:53 | |
| If you want to have seniors, have services. | 00:55:55 | |
| And of course we said, yeah, we do that. That's that's what we do. | 00:55:59 | |
| Give service to the public. | 00:56:02 | |
| So that that's why I'm a little heated. | 00:56:05 | |
| That prison. | 00:56:07 | |
| Thing always comes up. | 00:56:10 | |
| He does. It always does. | 00:56:12 | |
| But prisons are supposed to be provided. | 00:56:14 | |
| By the county. | 00:56:18 | |
| That's in the state statute. | 00:56:20 | |
| We've gone through that so many times, and I can get you the state statute. | 00:56:22 | |
| So to say, this is what they're spending at the jail. | 00:56:26 | |
| I can't, you know. | 00:56:30 | |
| Yeah, yeah. So so we can, we can show you that. | 00:56:33 | |
| You know, uh. | 00:56:37 | |
| The county is supposed to supply the jail. That's just part of the. | 00:56:38 | |
| The city is not supposed to supply the ambulance. | 00:56:42 | |
| You know, it's that's not it. We did this. | 00:56:45 | |
| Being, as you said, good neighbors. | 00:56:49 | |
| Just like we. | 00:56:51 | |
| Provide the. | 00:56:52 | |
| Basketball the San Antonio Maglina kids to play basketball or go to our our. | 00:56:54 | |
| Our pool or go to our library. | 00:56:59 | |
| For the work that coming, you know, but so but that's why within a heated and I'm and the reason the other thing I'm saying is. | 00:57:03 | |
| I personally and I have, I have looked at their finances. | 00:57:11 | |
| And they're pretty good. | 00:57:14 | |
| And they can't do it over our. | 00:57:16 | |
| Services that we're providing. | 00:57:18 | |
| So you know, and I would welcome you to go look at the. | 00:57:21 | |
| County budget and. | 00:57:24 | |
| And what the revenue is projected? | 00:57:25 | |
| And how much money they saved when they. | 00:57:28 | |
| Let go of the Senior Center. | 00:57:30 | |
| And then also. | 00:57:33 | |
| When I would get into all the raises and everything but anyway. | 00:57:35 | |
| Mr. Mayor All right, Mr. Monett, one last point. I'm not sure if it was in Mr. Everett's calculations or not, but if we have | 00:57:38 | |
| detainees that are built a city. | 00:57:42 | |
| Detainees. | 00:57:46 | |
| They bill us for each night in the jail, so I don't know if he included that in his analysis. | 00:57:48 | |
| Well, he obviously got his information from when. | 00:57:54 | |
| One person. | 00:57:57 | |
| Mr. Latrice. | 00:57:58 | |
| And to clarify something as well, Council is I know he brought up. | 00:58:01 | |
| The percentage of a. | 00:58:06 | |
| What we're collecting, we're only collecting about 30% of all the ambulance charges for the whole city and county, not just the | 00:58:07 | |
| county. | 00:58:11 | |
| Is that just what's that due to What? It doesn't even cover what? | 00:58:17 | |
| No, no. I mean are we capable of collecting more or is it like I think that's just what or is that just what gets paid or? | 00:58:21 | |
| Office because it's mostly Medicare, Medicaid. | 00:58:29 | |
| You know, uh. | 00:58:33 | |
| Auto insurance you got you got a pretty good. | 00:58:34 | |
| Pretty good for auto insurance. | 00:58:36 | |
| But a lot of times there's people that are uninsured. | 00:58:38 | |
| Change 70%. | 00:58:42 | |
| Mr. Berger. | 00:58:47 | |
| You know, I would like to stay. | 00:58:49 | |
| The ball and. | 00:58:54 | |
| Because my job is to try and approve. | 00:59:01 | |
| So I'm here to listen to you guys and I think doesn't. | 00:59:06 | |
| That into account. | 00:59:14 | |
| Ah, so OK. Thanks Shiv. | 00:59:27 | |
| OK, I see, I see I've been hearing public hearing #1. | 00:59:33 | |
| Mr. Mayor. | 00:59:39 | |
| This is the first of four public hearings we'll have. | 00:59:41 | |
| Till in April, 2 in May. | 00:59:44 | |
| And I've requested that the Council return their surveys to me by May 20th. | 00:59:46 | |
| Which will give me the month of June to make any alterations to the ICIP and input correct numbers. | 00:59:51 | |
| As I said, he is to enjoy and. | 00:59:57 | |
| We've advertised we've put this in the utility bills. | 01:00:00 | |
| To try and get the public input, as this is their opportunity to request that the Council put infrastructure projects on the list. | 01:00:04 | |
| It also helps us get funding for grants and capital outlay as it shows the council has thought these projects through and they are | 01:00:11 | |
| priorities. | 01:00:15 | |
| What? | 01:00:21 | |
| And we're going to the public hearing right now, right? | 01:00:23 | |
| I mean, we want to let the public know that there's a process. | 01:00:26 | |
| Putting their. | 01:00:29 | |
| Of putting their. | 01:00:31 | |
| Items that they're interested in on the agenda also. | 01:00:33 | |
| It's not just the City Council. Mr. Logan make a motion to go into public hearing for the IC IP Second. | 01:00:36 | |
| Moved and seconded all in favor. | 01:00:41 | |
| Anyone out there still left? | 01:00:43 | |
| When I say anything. | 01:00:46 | |
| Of our CIP, which means if you have a street project, if you have a housing project. | 01:00:47 | |
| If you have a drainage project. | 01:00:52 | |
| If you have any kind of playground project. | 01:00:54 | |
| Come to the public hearing so you can voice that. Let the OR let the counselors know and they'll bring it to you. They'll bring it | 01:00:58 | |
| to us. | 01:01:01 | |
| OK, We'll go back out, make a motion. We'll go back in regular session. One second moved and seconded. All in favor, aye. | 01:01:05 | |
| Better word we have the on call engineer which is. | 01:01:12 | |
| Picked by the committee and as Dennis Engineering. | 01:01:15 | |
| Mr. Salome. | 01:01:21 | |
| CS one second. I'll second the discussion. | 01:01:23 | |
| All in favor, aye? | 01:01:29 | |
| The NMDOT transportation project. | 01:01:31 | |
| Called the TPF. | 01:01:34 | |
| On Carroll Ave. | 01:01:36 | |
| OK, I second the discussion. | 01:01:45 | |
| And that will be as far as you can go with it. It depends on how much money we get. | 01:01:48 | |
| Try to get that done all in favor. | 01:01:52 | |
| The Amatec bridge. | 01:01:56 | |
| Resolution 25-04-01B Donald. That's for the. | 01:01:58 | |
| It's for the replacement of the East Bridge or East Road slash Amortek Bridge. It's been downgraded from 40 tons to 10. | 01:02:04 | |
| It is up to #3 on worst bridges in our district or in New Mexico. | 01:02:12 | |
| We were. | 01:02:18 | |
| We were funded for that project. | 01:02:20 | |
| For the design through the TPF program in 2023 and the plans are now at 95% complete. | 01:02:22 | |
| So we want to start asking the dot. | 01:02:29 | |
| To fund the replacement of the bridge. | 01:02:32 | |
| And that hearing is on April 11th. | 01:02:35 | |
| Is my sister Romero. | 01:02:38 | |
| And what we approve. Resolution #25-04-01B. | 01:02:41 | |
| 2nd so moved and seconded under discussion. | 01:02:47 | |
| I want to ask the transportation department to put in a license reader. | 01:02:51 | |
| So we can charge the people that come across. | 01:02:54 | |
| Just like a tow bridge because there's 200 to 250 cars a day. | 01:02:59 | |
| One way? Not at all. | 01:03:07 | |
| But at all charges on a dollar. | 01:03:10 | |
| No. | 01:03:12 | |
| Just going back because it's kind of ties into the ICIP because it's on our list for ICIP projects and last year that was number 4 | 01:03:15 | |
| and so is funding the 350,000, does that affect? | 01:03:19 | |
| And you should that effect any of our decisions when we're doing that or is it still going to is it just petition the Department | 01:03:25 | |
| of Transportation? | 01:03:28 | |
| It's kind of a loaded question because I'm not sure when they'll make the decisions on the TPF awards. | 01:03:34 | |
| I believe the project is 2.3 million and our share would be 320. | 01:03:39 | |
| 5000 or 320,000. | 01:03:44 | |
| So I'm not sure, but does it have a bearing on on on on what the ICIP? | 01:03:48 | |
| Some of the scrolling criteria on the TPF is. | 01:03:54 | |
| That it's included in regional. | 01:03:58 | |
| Plans or for community plans. | 01:04:01 | |
| And another thing that. | 01:04:03 | |
| Government, it's also awarded our participation in the World Transportation Planning Organization and I believe. | 01:04:06 | |
| Councillor Dean is on that committee now, so her participation is getting us points. | 01:04:14 | |
| But but I think you probably from the design you want to probably put keep it on the ICIP to build it. | 01:04:20 | |
| Yes, Sir. For the for the next, just kind of roll it through. | 01:04:26 | |
| All in favor, aye business. | 01:04:30 | |
| Opening business, Old business. | 01:04:34 | |
| Mr. Mayor. | 01:04:37 | |
| Co-op or any conversation with those guys? I have, I have. I'm trying to get a meeting with Paula. We're trying to get a meeting | 01:04:41 | |
| with Mr. Martinez. | 01:04:45 | |
| To talk about. | 01:04:51 | |
| Remember that the word we use is bring your own. | 01:04:55 | |
| Which means bring your own. | 01:04:58 | |
| Shoulder or wind to the thing and he said he had a discussion with tri-state about it. | 01:05:00 | |
| But I don't know where we're at on that. You know, he wasn't able to meet last time, so. | 01:05:06 | |
| Next week and I'll bring that information to you at the next meeting. | 01:05:11 | |
| I've been very sympathetic to what he's been doing. I think he's been trying to be like when we had the outage, it was an outage, | 01:05:16 | |
| but it was a tri-state outage. | 01:05:20 | |
| And he was very commutative and wanted to let us all know. So he's been, he's been very upfront. | 01:05:24 | |
| He's using our gym, I think gym facilities and. | 01:05:31 | |
| Seems like the cruise. | 01:05:36 | |
| Yeah, are working with the city crews a lot much better. So it's been a it's been a change. Oh, good. | 01:05:38 | |
| That's great to hear. | 01:05:43 | |
| Easter Egg Roll. | 01:05:47 | |
| I don't mean that like an egg roll, but. | 01:05:49 | |
| Like the hunt? What day is that on? | 01:05:53 | |
| September. September. | 01:05:57 | |
| You don't have to call the priest on you. You don't know when he should. | 01:05:59 | |
| April 19th, April 19th. So we'll still have another meeting, OK. I just just want to make sure we have it. Mr. | 01:06:05 | |
| All business. I forgot to mention David Gutierrez, junior son, the three time state championship and he wasn't here today. He's | 01:06:15 | |
| not here, but I do want to say. | 01:06:20 | |
| I want to make sure to mention him. He's going to beat me up. He's a big guy. | 01:06:28 | |
| Executive session. I guess we had our. | 01:06:36 | |
| Laundry out in public, anyway. | 01:06:39 | |
| OK, job description. Donald, what do you want me to do with this job description? | 01:06:41 | |
| That, Mister Mayor, is just once again aligning the salary. | 01:06:46 | |
| Range for that position. | 01:06:50 | |
| I believe there's a personnel change. | 01:06:52 | |
| Putting someone in that position also on the personnel changes. | 01:06:55 | |
| And uh. | 01:06:59 | |
| When we do the across the board. | 01:07:00 | |
| Raises and things like that, if somebody's not in that position, we tend to forget to increase that salary schedule along with all | 01:07:02 | |
| the others, and that's kind of what happened in this case. | 01:07:07 | |
| OK. | 01:07:14 | |
| Is that OK? | 01:07:16 | |
| Next motion We approve the job description. | 01:07:18 | |
| Putin is taking a discussion all in favor. | 01:07:21 | |
| Personnel changes are. | 01:07:24 | |
| David Monette completed probation. | 01:07:26 | |
| Julie Herchen promoted to shelter supervisor. | 01:07:29 | |
| José González at animal shelter. And just to point out, he used to be the county animal control. | 01:07:33 | |
| Guys. So I guess. | 01:07:38 | |
| That gross receipts increased the debt for animal control. I'm not sure where they're spending that money yet. | 01:07:41 | |
| Simon Ramirez police resignation and James Beasley resignation. Hey, Chief. | 01:07:47 | |
| I I see you out there. | 01:07:54 | |
| What's going on with people resigning from the Police Department? | 01:07:56 | |
| They have a county that's looking at a $40.00 an hour. | 01:08:02 | |
| Pay right now. | 01:08:06 | |
| They're moving from. | 01:08:08 | |
| I think it's $31.00 an hour to $40.00 an hour here soon. | 01:08:09 | |
| And a lot of guys are jumping on board to try to go there now, so. | 01:08:13 | |
| Are we, are we making them sign the contract? We haven't signed the contract. We have one guy that's Jeremy that's on contract | 01:08:18 | |
| right now and he's he's coming in. He'll be the first one to do the contract. | 01:08:24 | |
| As we're making them sign a contract now for employment, yeah, for we do a one year probation and then three years that they | 01:08:31 | |
| guarantee that they stay with us. So you have something out of that. | 01:08:36 | |
| So I just want to let the Council know about the. | 01:08:41 | |
| Atmosphere out there for. | 01:08:43 | |
| Fire also and for police. | 01:08:45 | |
| As to what what other people are offering, Another thing is that they're offering like I think it's 8020 PRA. | 01:08:48 | |
| And they're also paying medical for them so it's they see it more on their checks. | 01:08:55 | |
| We're paying, we're paying all our medical. So do they pass that on to the other city employees? Do you know? | 01:09:00 | |
| I believe they do. | 01:09:06 | |
| OK, so it's at 95 now, I think, I think the only thing that they do right now is law enforcement and rescue that they're they're | 01:09:07 | |
| working with their PRA. | 01:09:13 | |
| That they pay more into their PRA because we pay so much into it. | 01:09:18 | |
| I don't know what Lawrence pays, but I mine's almost $1000 every paycheck. | 01:09:22 | |
| PRA. | 01:09:27 | |
| I'm just letting you guys know what the deal is there. | 01:09:29 | |
| Mr. Mark, Mr. | 01:09:34 | |
| Make a motion. We approve the personnel changes. Seconded. All in favour, aye. | 01:09:38 | |
| We have Juma Construction and general contractors, Purple Cow transit vendor. | 01:09:43 | |
| Ice cream truck Hilson Technology Barrel Ingram from Portland, ME. | 01:09:48 | |
| He installs, maintains and decommissions wireless and fiber for utilities. | 01:09:53 | |
| Mr. Mayor, Mr. Anybody? | 01:09:58 | |
| I'll make a motion to approve the business registration as well. Seconded. All in favor. | 01:10:01 | |
| Aye, opposed. | 01:10:06 | |
| And as you call your friend. | 01:10:09 | |
| I sent him an e-mail yesterday and he didn't reply. | 01:10:14 | |
| OK, I won't say anything about it then. | 01:10:17 | |
| Thank you very much. We'll meet again, again, again and 15th of faithful. | 01:10:20 |