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Event transcript
Here Councillor Travis Lopez, Councillor Dean. 00:00:00
Councillor Fleming. 00:00:06
Councillor Ocampo. 00:00:07
Counselor again here. 00:00:09
Councillor Partridge Council, Romero. 00:00:11
He is on the way and he is probably passing Lematar by now. 00:00:14
Counselor Salome. 00:00:19
We do have a. 00:00:21
All right. 00:00:23
Certifying of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands. 00:00:28
One nation under God indivisible, at the beginning of justice for all. 00:00:34
Mr. Fleming, A motion to approve the agenda as revised. 00:00:44
Test agenda. 00:00:52
Accept the consent agenda. 00:00:55
All in favor, aye. 00:00:58
Post and. 00:01:01
Consideration. Well, that's all under consent agenda, right? I don't know. Right to #4. 00:01:04
Yeah. 00:01:11
OK, Connor. 00:01:13
And mom. 00:01:15
Dad, everybody's there. 00:01:17
Always come bearing gifts. I always like that when they make a presentation. 00:01:21
Wanted to come to thank you guys for letting us host the 5K at the Plaza. 00:01:30
Let's and and sponsoring. 00:01:42
And come on, tell us what you did. 00:01:46
How many people were there and what the times were? 00:01:49
It was about 200 people. 00:01:53
About $4000. 00:01:58
Raised we we raising money with 65 doses. 00:02:02
Don't find a cue. 00:02:06
Yeah. How many years have you been doing this now? 00:02:08
Technically 8 technically 8 technically. 00:02:11
Yeah. 00:02:16
One year was in Covad, so it was virtual so. 00:02:18
Well, you did a fantastic job. Yes, fantastic job and carrying it through. 00:02:22
So how old are you and how tall are you? 00:02:28
14 about two and 15 I don't know how tall is you? See you. You like getting taller and taller your grandpa's. You don't need to 00:02:32
use that step anymore. That Gordy built for you. 00:02:37
So that's great. 00:02:43
But congratulations for a terrific. 00:02:45
Annual event. 00:02:48
And you've got T-shirts for us. All right, There's some more over there. We can pass them around. 00:02:50
Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. 00:02:55
Perfect. 00:03:02
Any other comments that you want to make? 00:03:05
Great. How's your swim team doing? 00:03:09
Yeah, what's what's happening with that? 00:03:14
Either one. 00:03:17
Well, and we're we're going to get the, we're going to get the summer swimming going. 00:03:24
Have lifeguards. We're going to have all that get stuff ready to go. Great. Terrific. Yes, Sir. 00:03:33
I'd like to speak my name. My name is. 00:03:39
And I would like to say I was wondering about Park Street. 00:03:42
If you guys, you know, I know that was WPA. That was 1937. Whatever. 00:03:46
Is there any asbestos related issues with that? 00:03:54
But well, because it does it like every time I walk down Park Street, there's dust growing everywhere. 00:04:00
Are you talking about, I'm worried about are you talking about the our demolition? 00:04:06
Your demolition across from the. 00:04:12
You're you're absolutely right about asking about that, but the asbestos was already remediated into that from that building. 00:04:14
But they can blow the dust out into the street, but there's no asbestos in there. 00:04:23
There's no toxic or hazardous, yeah. 00:04:27
No, no, no. There was asbestos, but it's been remediated. 00:04:31
It's been taken out. 00:04:35
Yes, Sir, we have to. I don't have any health effects on that from the dust. 00:04:38
And we're trying to water it down, But yes, not from the headless. There's no hazardous material because we have to do that. We 00:04:43
have to get that evaluated by a special. 00:04:47
We did. We spent almost 100. We spent $100,000 in removing. 00:04:53
Yes Sir, it was in the IT was in the tile on the floor. 00:04:59
And and there was, yeah, you're absolutely right about bringing that up. But it was taken care of. It was out, taken out. 00:05:02
Before we demolish. 00:05:09
I had your police officers took care of some business about, oh, it was seven months ago. 00:05:13
And four months ago I went to your. 00:05:21
Here tonight. 00:05:27
Was it Greenwood? 00:05:28
Back in Greenwood and I went to him and that was three weeks after it happened and and I had an issue and and he said he'd take 00:05:30
care of it. 00:05:34
But nothing has ever been taken care of. 00:05:40
So does your Police Department take care of this stuff or? 00:05:43
You just blow it up. 00:05:47
Well, let me I'm going to look into that. I didn't know. I'm not sure exactly the incident, but I will ask. He's the assistant 00:05:49
police chief Greenwood course music. 00:05:53
But, but, but I went to him directly because afterwards he said, Oh yeah, I'll take care of it. And then he didn't do anything. 00:05:58
And I know they didn't investigate it. 00:06:06
I went, I went there. 00:06:09
We're ahead, the incident, And I asked him, they took care of the city. Did they come in and investigate? They didn't investigate. 00:06:12
Could you could you tell me your last name? 00:06:16
Heinz Hein HIN Yes, yes. I'll have an answer for you tomorrow. I don't. He should have been here. The son is playing baseball. I 00:06:21
thought he was going to be here, so. 00:06:26
That's what this is for. He was going to be here, but his son had a baseball game and he's at the baseball game. But. 00:06:34
I will get that answer for you first thing tomorrow morning. Yeah, but he even said, you know, you got a battery, it charged 00:06:42
against you. 00:06:45
And I was looking, you know, I'm just thinking, well, I wasn't expecting. I just wanted to some charge against this, you know, 00:06:48
even a young kid. And he beat me up because I'm an older dude. I. 00:06:54
I am absolutely sympathetic to what you're saying. People shouldn't say I'll take care of it and not get back with you, OK? I 00:07:01
agree with you and I'll have you tomorrow. 00:07:06
OK. And will you, will you give Polo your telephone number? And I won't make it public, but if you could give him a phone number 00:07:10
so I can call you. I'll be there. OK. Thank you. Thank you for coming. 00:07:15
What else? What about? 00:07:24
Good evening, Mayor Basker, City Council members. 00:07:30
Want to take this opportunity to invite all Sapporo Electric members? That includes everyone of you. 00:07:34
To our annual meeting on this Saturday, April 20th. Registration starts from 1:00 to 3:00. 00:07:42
We are giving away. 00:07:50
A $25.00 bill credit if you do come and register. So that's something that people. 00:07:53
That'll come everybody who's a member. 00:08:00
True. So if they're a member and they have an account, they will get a $25 real. 00:08:03
Registration, like I said, is from 1:00 to 3:00 PM at New Mexico Tech Macy's Center. 00:08:10
The program in the meeting will follow right after that. 00:08:17
The second thing I would like to can I ask you about the meeting? Will you post the agenda on your website? It's already posted on 00:08:21
the website. 00:08:25
It's also posted on our door. 00:08:31
And great. 00:08:36
I'd also like to to follow up on the cooperatives request for a franchise ordinance. 00:08:42
We've asked that the ordinance be placed on the agenda several times. 00:08:48
We received an explanation on how the process works when requesting an ordinance from Mr. Pollock Panetta. 00:08:51
So I asked that the process be started and I'm here tonight to follow up on the latest updates on the cooperatives request. 00:09:01
This is this is a public. 00:09:12
Comment time. 00:09:15
I have seen your request, I've seen Mr. Panetta's response to you. 00:09:18
And I'm still waiting for a complete answers. 00:09:23
To the questions that I sent specifically on the money that you have borrowed as to how much that was spent in the City of 00:09:27
Socorro, I have not received an answer to that and that's why I'm not recommending to the council that we move ahead with any 00:09:33
ordinance now, if you so as administratively as mayor. 00:09:39
I'm not going to put it on the agenda. If one of the city councilors wants to do that at a future meeting, I'm more than happy to 00:09:45
accommodate them. But I am at this point, not interested in. 00:09:51
Carrying on any further? 00:09:57
Conversation when the coop until they answer my questions that I sent them. 00:10:02
Two months ago. OK. Is that Mister Anaya? Chairman. I'm sorry. Sorry, I don't mean to. Is that the only question that you're 00:10:08
looking to be? 00:10:13
Answered Umm. 00:10:18
And no, I think, I think there's there's ones. 00:10:19
You have several years ago you did a GPS program on all your polls and and and I would like I would I wanted to see how many of 00:10:23
those polls are on how much of our property and you said you couldn't answer how much of our property that. 00:10:31
Using, but at least you tell me. 00:10:39
You're where your poles are, and then I can deduce how much property that you're, you know, using as a as a franchise, but at this 00:10:43
point. 00:10:48
And I was going to go further as to where we're at on our. 00:10:53
Industrial park leg We're out. We're there. We've already gotten a price. 00:10:57
We've already got a business. 00:11:02
Pro forma and right now we're looking for financing and just to let the council know that the the amount is about 15,000,000 and 00:11:07
that includes A substation that would serve the city. 00:11:12
And it includes the cost of electricity at $0.05 a kilowatt. 00:11:18
Plus the willing charge. 00:11:24
From tri-state and a Wheeling charge from P&M. 00:11:25
Being charged from Tri states twice as much as the one from PNM, but that makes the amount of what it costs to get that 00:11:30
electricity about $0.07 a kilowatt. 00:11:34
And the amount of energy for that leg is about two and a half million. It generates about four and a half $1,000,000 in revenue if 00:11:40
we borrow the money at 8, 1/2%. 00:11:45
We to keep the rates at the same level we are. 00:11:51
Where we would be in debt for about 500,000. 00:11:57
If we can get it at 3%. 00:12:02
We would be ahead. We would be making money. So that's and I and I I think Ed Reyes. 00:12:04
Has a performer tradition as a PDF on that. 00:12:12
Not completed yet, no. 00:12:16
So this maybe is gonna go further into some of those, OK. But this is just an overall view that I'm telling you. And so we've 00:12:18
already moved forward with the industrial leg and we are in the process also and today we're gonna be having the council. 00:12:25
Either approve or not approve a relationship with a company called Icasa who is going to get us a grant for solar. 00:12:35
Which is, which will be put out there. This will be part of the system and also will help us get money. There's monies available 00:12:43
for electric grids and so they're going to help us with that also. And I think Marianne Travis Lopez is familiar with the people 00:12:50
that I, I, I cast and and they're the ones that we're going to be dealing with. So we're there. 00:12:57
At getting our industrial. 00:13:05
Corridor electric production on getting going. It's not going to happen overnight and you will probably get an extension. 00:13:09
For month to month of your franchise, there's no question that you will, but we're not administratively, I'm not willing. 00:13:18
To look at another ordinance. 00:13:27
I don't, I don't mind doing a resolution that states that we're going to be continuing our franchise with Socorro electric coop 00:13:31
month to month after May. 00:13:35
I don't have a problem with that and as we. 00:13:40
Roll out our electric grid. 00:13:43
That will mean that the franchise. 00:13:46
In that leg. 00:13:49
In my opinion, would be void and then we will keep on the. 00:13:51
Movement of the rest of the electric utility through the city. 00:13:56
Is the stuff that you're you're talking about the 15,000,000 and all of that, is that open to public? 00:13:59
Not yet, but it will be. Yeah, absolutely. But right now, as I mentioned address and and you know, I know you have an IPRA 00:14:06
request. 00:14:10
For the city and that will be made available to you once we sign the contract. We're still in negotiations and that comes under. 00:14:16
The purview of of. 00:14:24
Kind of objective, but we never go into executive session. I just tell people what we're doing, but. 00:14:28
That really comes under under business negotiation. 00:14:33
And so I can't. 00:14:37
I can't. 00:14:39
Public and available to everybody until I get that written up from our finance advisor. 00:14:41
But it will be, it will be made public, Mr. Ology. So are we going to see all these numbers and not everything before we before 00:14:46
the contract signed or is it actually going to be, are we going to get the numbers with the contract and have to decide then? No, 00:14:51
no, you'll get the numbers first. 00:14:56
So the numbers that numbers are out there the only. 00:15:01
So the ones that were that you say you're gonna have by the end of last year and then at the end of February I believe? 00:15:05
That we still haven't gotten yet. We're going to get those before. 00:15:10
Well, Ed said he'd give us a date. He gave. He gave us a presentation. Councillor Dean was at it. He gave us a presentation. 00:15:14
Last Thursday. 00:15:22
And he's just going to firm up the numbers now. Yeah, he he needed to go back in and look at some other numbers because we. 00:15:25
Exact. We don't want roundabout numbers. 00:15:33
Before you know what time to absorb all that, yes, absolutely. 00:15:37
And probably have a chance to talk to Co-op about it so that's yeah absolutely a lot of delay was was getting it from Finley 00:15:39
because of the. 00:15:43
Just the cost and the wait time and they finally firm that up and then once I got to to head race or or financial person. 00:15:49
And then he started exorbitant. So he gave us kind of a preliminary, but he still it's it's not complete. 00:15:59
But Ruby has a call into the New Mexico Finance Authority. 00:16:05
And to see what kind of interest rates are available. The interest rates that I was telling you where we would be losing 500,000 00:16:10
is actually would be a loan from Guzman at 8 1/2% and we're not we're not we would not propose that to the council, that's too 00:16:16
high. We can get better rates than that. But once we get that, once we get the and I'm just giving an overview and I will give you 00:16:21
that to you. I'm hoping by the next City Council meeting we'll have it in in paper on a on A and I can have him maybe do a 00:16:27
presentation to the council. 00:16:33
Paul asked him to see if he could be available to do a presentation of the council. 00:16:41
On the, you know, it's not the next meeting, the new meeting after, but we definitely need to get that. 00:16:46
For a voter discussion, is it is it going to be for a voter or just discussion? 00:16:53
Discussion and information? Yeah. No. No. Not a vote No. 00:16:59
Mr. Mayor, the questions that Jared was asking about, did we clarify that what we wanted them to answer for us? I mean I I've 00:17:05
clarified it in the letter that I sent them and the reply I got was so. 00:17:11
Small that that wasn't really anything we could digest and I could talk to the to the council about and as I said you, you know. 00:17:20
We wanted some information. That's a big one. That's the big one out of the millions of dollars that you are in debt. 00:17:29
Where did you spend that money? 00:17:38
And I and I don't understand why you wouldn't be able to give that to us. Because anytime you borrow money, you have to tell them 00:17:40
where you're gonna spend it before you get it. That's not necessarily the way that it works in the Co-op world. It's disseminated 00:17:45
across our whole grid and our whole system and our whole. 00:17:51
The way that we work as a whole, so the. 00:17:57
The questions that you're that you're asking are specific to what we have here in the city of Socorro. 00:18:01
That's not necessarily how it works with us because it. 00:18:09
It is spread over the whole. 00:18:12
The whole Is it possible to get the answers? Can you get the answer? 00:18:16
Well, I mean. 00:18:22
It's a. It's a very very complicated. 00:18:24
And you know, another question that I have is Mr. Panetta was a manager. When? When, when you, when you? 00:18:28
Go out for for a loan. Don't you have to include your four year plan that just that? 00:18:36
Actually tells USDA where where these projects are going to happen. Yes, but. 00:18:41
I understand that it's a big area. 00:18:48
But, but they're in that plan. It says, OK, this is in this area, this isn't. I can see if you're replacing poles and tomorrow 00:18:50
you're going to say well in Kettering County or you're going to replace poles. So I'm sure you could break that down a little bit. 00:18:58
Right, but it's what was asked of us. 00:19:08
Is what was spent in the city of Socorro. 00:19:12
And it's either whether or not we need to get down to the minutiae. 00:19:16
Or whether we just give you an overall. And that leads me to my next question. Is the Franchise ordinance conditional on the 00:19:20
subjective interpretation of our responses? 00:19:25
I'm sorry, say that again. Is the Franchise Ordinance conditional on your subjective interpretation of our responses? 00:19:32
That's what I implied when I sent that letter. 00:19:42
So it is subjective. 00:19:44
It's your interpretation. 00:19:46
My my support of extending the franchise agreement with a Co-op. 00:19:48
Is contingent upon answering those questions because the question that I have, what's the benefit for the City of Socorro? 00:19:56
Of the franchise agreement and the continual sale of electricity that the city of Socorro is footing in the bill for and not 00:20:05
getting the benefit of the loan payments that you're making for. 00:20:11
Work being done in the whole system. 00:20:18
That was one of the reasons I asked that question. 00:20:21
Because if somebody asks me how much money Ravi have you spent on Chaparral Rd. I can ask Ruby and Donald to go look it up and we 00:20:25
I can tell you exactly how much money we borrowed the sewer project there. I can tell you how much money we're going to borrow to 00:20:30
do the sewer project on Spring Street. I don't say that. The whole city, I can't find how much because when I borrow that money 00:20:35
from USDA. 00:20:41
I have to give them an engineering report on the area that I'm going to do that improvement on, and I'm not, I'm not sure that 00:20:47
your answer is. 00:20:51
Truthful and saying, well, we don't know where we spent the money. Well, it's like Polo said, you have to specifically tell USDA 00:20:57
or the Co bank where you have their biggest loans. This is how we're going to spend the money and this is where we're going to 00:21:02
spend. 00:21:07
I don't know why you can't. 00:21:14
Share that. 00:21:16
I will get with. 00:21:18
With my management team and see what what we can come up with and and maybe possibly. 00:21:19
Get down to the. 00:21:26
Like I said, the minutiae of everything and see if we can't get you an answer for that. 00:21:28
In my mind is not minutia, it's it's, it's what. 00:21:33
What benefit is the City of Socorro? 00:21:36
Getting from the coop. 00:21:39
As far as upgrading the system. 00:21:42
With the loans that you're that the city and all the people that use the city services for electricity are paying to you right 00:21:44
now, and they're paying it in tomato. Are they paying in Magdalena? Evidently the mayor from Magdalena is very sympathetic to you 00:21:50
and wants me to prepare his his charges in the city of Socorro. I'm the mayor of the city of Socorro. My job is to look out for 00:21:56
the citizens here and their and their. 00:22:02
And their paycheck and their their wallet. So that's why I'm asking those questions. 00:22:09
I definitely understand that, but I just. I was just. 00:22:15
The where what I'm getting at is basically that we are subject to. 00:22:21
The subjective interpretation of the of the City Council. 00:22:26
Thank you for answering but but I but I will answer your question. 00:22:30
I am absolutely sympathetic to extending your franchise agreement. 00:22:34
On a temporary basis, from month to month. I don't have a problem with that. We will continue. 00:22:40
Doing that as we have in the past, although in May. 00:22:45
That's when the judge said the franchise agreement is terminated. I am, I am going to suggest to the council that we pass a 00:22:49
resolution that we do it a month to month and and not as an ordinance but as a resolution that we will honor your franchise 00:22:54
agreement month to month as the City Council. 00:23:00
Looks at us rolling out. 00:23:06
A municipal electric grid. 00:23:09
OK. That's that's mainly what we're asking. I mean we're asking if we can come to an agreement of. 00:23:11
You know, either I mean something. 00:23:18
You know we can. 00:23:22
We can protect our members and you can protect the city of Socorro in the way that you feel is is necessary. So definitely, we 00:23:24
definitely need to turn the switch on and have the lights go on. No question, Mr. Cartridge, don't let one of them. I was just 00:23:30
curious, like I said, if we can get the answers. I did feel like the response was vague when I read it. 00:23:37
To what we were asking so. 00:23:44
Umm, if we could get the answers it would be. It'd be helpful for all of us here sitting to help as things come in, make decisions 00:23:47
that are going to. 00:23:50
Impact everybody. So the more information that we get, the more transparent. 00:23:55
That everybody is there. I think the better decision all of us are going to be able to make my opinion. 00:23:59
Absolutely. And you know, I would refer you to the La Plata, La Plata Co-op, which is Durango in that area, Durango Co and their 00:24:05
comment was they're living tri-state. 00:24:10
And their comment was they're doing it. 00:24:16
In the interest of their community so that they can continue. 00:24:18
To not continue but but to stop sending money to tri-state and using that money. 00:24:24
In that area to develop their community and I don't know if I sent that to the council they that that. 00:24:31
That this newspaper article why Laplata was leaving tri-state. 00:24:40
And I'd got no response from the trustees at the coop, but they gave a very concise answer. 00:24:45
Why they're living tri-state? 00:24:52
And you read in our recent newspaper. 00:24:54
Article about what's happening to tri-state they lost their bond rating from A to BBBB plus or triple B plus whatever they call 00:25:01
that and so tri-state is in trouble. 00:25:07
They're going to have to borrow money. They're gonna increase the cost of electricity to each of the coops that are left. 00:25:13
And that that was not me that was in the newspaper, right? But that was by. 00:25:20
I mean, I can't comment on what's going on by or what's going on in La Plata because I'm not there. I'm part of Sakura Electric. 00:25:26
I can't comment on what's going on going on at tri-state because I'm part of Sapporo Electric Cooperative. I'm I work for Socorro 00:25:35
Electric I'm I don't work for tri-state. I don't work for La Plata I I only. 00:25:41
Am here to find out what's in the best interest or to push or ask what's in the best interest of Socorro Electric Cooperative. 00:25:48
And our members, I'm here to advocate for our members and that does include everyone of you, whether you feel like we're against 00:25:57
you or you're against us or anything like that, we're here to try and. 00:26:04
And and help our membership as a whole. 00:26:11
And I don't feel that we're against you. I think we just want answers because like where I work we have to have a five year plan. 00:26:16
When we get grants or whatever, they have to be earmarked. So I find it hard to believe that you can't. 00:26:24
Give us an answer by because I know in the loans or the grants that you get, they have to be earmarked for for different things, 00:26:33
right? 00:26:37
The way the question was was phrased to us. 00:26:43
Was what has been spent here in Socorro. 00:26:46
But you could still take it out. I mean, because that's what we I run three different counties, so when I when I do the grant, I 00:26:51
do the grant. So much for Valencia, so much for Torrent, so much for Socorro. So I know that you can get that information by just. 00:27:00
Bearing down on on on what? What did you borrow? 00:27:09
Support for the City of Socorro or what did you what did you put in that grant for the City of Socorro? 00:27:14
OK, now I can and I that's managed. That's on the. 00:27:21
Above my pay grade. 00:27:27
I appreciate you coming and this is the first time we've had a. 00:27:30
Back and forth. But I really appreciate, I mean, you coming here. I wish Joseph was here but not to get anything. 00:27:35
But I'm just saying it's great that you're coming to the council meeting and having a discussion. It really makes a big, big 00:27:43
difference. I can and I can tell you that we can talk about our side, you can talk about your side, we can listen to publicly 00:27:48
listen to that. That's what we need to have, is that open discussion. 00:27:53
Let me give you, let me give you an example. We put these two car chargers over here in the Plaza. We didn't do it, the state 00:27:59
said. Come on, we'll do it for you. We'll give you a benefit and a gift. Well. 00:28:04
We built about $1300 a month to the people who plug in. 00:28:10
My electric cost is $5000 a month. 00:28:17
A month. I looked into that person. We're losing. We're losing 3000. We're losing $3000 a month on these fuel, the electric 00:28:21
chargers, maybe at 40 or $0.50 a kilowatt. I don't know. Ruby's here. No, no. But we're billing What? What are we building? $0.40 00:28:27
a kilowatt? 00:28:33
$0.40 a kilowatt? I'm going to have to go to $1.20. 00:28:42
A kilowatt. 00:28:45
For these people that are plugging in just to break even from the demand charge that I'm getting from the Coop. So those kinds of 00:28:46
things are the the cost of things and electricity are the things that are and that translates into the home electricity, it 00:28:53
translates into business electricity. And so that's what we're asking the trustees to look at. 00:29:00
And trying to help our community and the reason I bring up La Plata, I bring up Delta Montrose, I bring up. 00:29:07
In Denver, what's it called? United Power. Those people are leaving tri-state and I can only say it's good to see and I'm trying 00:29:17
to show the council. I know this is so cold. I'm trying to show the council. 00:29:22
What's happening in these communities that they want to control their future? 00:29:29
In buying electricity, if the coop would go and buy electricity from somebody else other than tri-state when they were given that 00:29:34
window to do that. 00:29:38
I think it would have benefited everybody in Kamado and Magdalena everywhere, but the trustees have not done that. 00:29:42
Well, we have invited everyone of you here to sit down with the trustees. 00:29:50
Myself. 00:29:57
And just like actually sit down across from the table from one another and talk about all of these things and also let you know 00:29:59
what's going on with tri-state. 00:30:04
Different, different things are coming up with tri-state like they're they're. 00:30:11
They're they're going to start moving to 40% renewables that you know co-ops can take advantage of. So I mean that's just some of 00:30:16
the things that that we would like to actually sit down and. 00:30:22
Have the conversation with each and everyone of you. 00:30:28
But we. 00:30:33
We've invited and nobody's shown up. 00:30:35
Mr. Ocampo, first I want to echo what everybody said. Thanks for coming in. I appreciate it. And I know it's probably before you 00:30:38
started and I won't speak for everybody here, but I did go sit down face to face and we had a good talk and there was a lot of 00:30:45
questions back and forth and a lot of things I felt like I didn't get answered and I kind of get a little confused because. 00:30:52
Like I know we have representation in our area on the trustee board, right, right. And so you would think that like if you have 00:30:59
representation from different areas, different counties, those people are kind of fighting for, for their folks who voted them in 00:31:06
and they would know, OK, I got X amount of money coming to my area to to upgrade or whatever it might be. 00:31:13
And then so we should know like. 00:31:20
Our representation here in the city of Socorro, I I would think that those trustees would know right away, hey, we've got 10% of 00:31:22
this money coming in that's going to help this infrastructure, little things like that when when they're not answered. 00:31:28
No matter what it is, it's kind of like. 00:31:34
And it's and we really have to lookout for our folks. I absolutely understand that. But I appreciate you coming in and everything 00:32:06
else and I mean I really do appreciate that. 00:32:10
Especially even at the annual meeting if you want to come and we have member comments at the the annual meeting just like this. So 00:32:18
you know Jared, I've been to I've been to member meetings and they've closed people down because they weren't on the agenda. I I 00:32:23
know what's happened. Mutual combo. 00:32:28
I'm sorry, one more thing I. 00:32:34
So this is just like a question, maybe I don't understand it right, but everything I all of the back and forth. 00:32:37
This whole franchise agreement that you guys are wanting and needing, like we all understand that people aren't gonna be left 00:32:45
without power. People are gonna be taken care of. I understand that it's not exactly business as usual, but it seems like even 00:32:51
what you guys have given us, I consider very short term, like a one year term, and to me like a month to month when you're talking 00:32:56
about like like major things happening in the city. 00:33:02
Whether it's month to month or even one year, it's very short term in my mind so. 00:33:08
Like maybe maybe what is the motivation where you feel like you're really needing it if what the proposal from you all is, is just 00:33:14
one year anyway, a month to month. I mean, you guys know the business, it's your business. You know, nothing's going to be erected 00:33:20
in a month or two months or five months or six months. I mean, we're very educated people. We care about this community. Nobody up 00:33:27
here is going to make a bad decision for the community. But just like Mike was just talking about. 00:33:33
We need information. 00:33:40
We need information from everywhere and so. 00:33:42
It seems like everything is short term. So what is the big push behind getting like a short term agreement when we're already 00:33:45
doing kind of a short term agreement? 00:33:49
I'll have to get the answer from you or for you because. 00:33:56
The in my mind and. 00:34:01
From what I from what I understand being I come from continental dividing grants. I'm from grants born and raised. 00:34:04
And I umm, I worked for Continental Divide Electric Cooperative for 4 1/2 years. So, well, I was. I actually left a month. Sigh of 00:34:11
my fifth year anniversary. So. 00:34:18
So. 00:34:26
I've been in coops. I, you know, I of course, if you've been in one or if you work for one Co-op, you work for one Co-op, but from 00:34:28
what I understand. 00:34:33
The reason why we are going after this franchise agreement so, so hard is because we want to ensure that our members are covered. 00:34:39
And whether it be just for a year? 00:34:50
We understand that, you know. 00:34:54
With supply chain issues. 00:34:57
You know some some Transformers are. 00:35:00
57 weeks out. 00:35:04
And that's on. 00:35:06
So we we understand that you know with the supply chain issues and everything, it's going to take probably longer than a year, 00:35:08
longer than two years so on and so forth for you guys to to get everything up and running. And we know that it's it's coming 00:35:14
because you guys made an ordinance for it. 00:35:20
Now we don't want to see it come, obviously, you know, I'm here, basically. 00:35:27
Partially on on behalf of myself because it's my livelihood. 00:35:35
You know so. 00:35:39
I will have to get back to you on on the. 00:35:44
The reason why we're not going for a longer. 00:35:49
Franchise agreement we're. 00:35:52
Part of the reason, and I can tell you right now, part of the reason is that. 00:35:56
We just. We want to. 00:36:00
Lock down a year so that way we can get into communication with you guys and sit down. 00:36:03
Negotiate things. 00:36:09
Possibly for a longer one. 00:36:11
You're saying it's going to take a while and I think it will too. But if you look at that solar project that's been going on for 00:36:15
about maybe six months. 00:36:19
They put a substation in to put in lines, they put in the solar, it's done the one between and Los Unas on that side and then they 00:36:23
put that in within six months. So I really think and you know with the with the substation, huh. 00:36:31
Sorry, I used to work for the company. Who does this soccer company. Yeah, but I mean, they got the equipment and all that. But 00:36:40
again. 00:36:43
I still underline that you open up a discussion. That's great. You're doing your job, Mr. Fleming. 00:36:48
And Jared, one thing. First of all, we appreciate you having this discussion because you were the first. 00:36:55
Representative from the coop. 00:37:04
That has stayed at that. 00:37:06
For more than 8 minutes. 00:37:10
Talking to us and trying to explain stuff. 00:37:12
Myself, I don't know. 00:37:17
What whether it's going to be month to month or a year? 00:37:20
But thank you for your participation in trying to explain stuff. 00:37:25
From your end, I know you're a rookie. so-called. 00:37:30
Down there, but you are doing a good job for the coop. 00:37:35
Thank you. I appreciate that. Well, you know, I mean just to give you the, I'm not going to carry this on further, but the 00:37:38
Continental Divide is a good Co-op and actually the one thing that Continental Divide did. 00:37:44
That this club we had trouble with for two years until TDs had to go underground and do all their their their broadband 00:37:49
continental divide. 00:37:54
Did work with a broadband company. 00:37:58
That came in from Kit Carson. Pardon. We started, sorry, I don't work for them anymore. They started their own right. But you did 00:38:01
do a broadband and they did put it on the poles. 00:38:07
Whereas this Co-op dragged the feet with TDs for two years. 00:38:13
Would not work with them without them pointing up to million to redo some of the polls which I that's why I want to know if you 00:38:19
spent 44 million on any of these polls but those that continental divide was much more progressive and and and further thinking 00:38:25
and then they went to Gallup. 00:38:31
And they did a contract with tri-state. 00:38:38
Because. 00:38:42
I think Continental Divide is serving them, but that under a new contract for three and a half cents. 00:38:43
They went out to bid for seven years with and they went out for power agreement and and so. 00:38:48
Tri-state gave them a 3 1/2 shed. 00:38:56
Per kilowatt where they're giving you guys seven or eight cents they get, that's what Continental divide. 00:39:00
Is serving Gallup with that contract with tri-state. So I know it can be done. I know it's happened and I think it was in the five 00:39:06
years that you were there that when the Continental divide in Gallup. 00:39:11
Ordered that of the stuff that you're talking about is there for, yeah. And it's not exactly what you're saying because I can, I 00:39:17
can speak from experience. 00:39:22
I did all of the marketing for Red Bull broadband through Divide. I know red bolt broadband backwards and forwards, so the. 00:39:28
I mean, I could sit here all night. 00:39:41
That I really don't. I don't know much about because I was on the fiber side, but as far as the fiber goes. 00:39:48
That's a. 00:39:58
That's something that we'll have to sit down and have a comment well that's over now because TDs is boring it couldn't go on the 00:39:59
polls because it because and you know again we're kind of this is this is this is. 00:40:05
It's like you're you've only been, you've been here. 00:40:11
But before what Mr. Accomplishes said, we've had these conversations with the I've been to their meetings. 00:40:14
I've been given two or five minutes. 00:40:21
Speak about it, about broadband, about the cost, about you know how much you're spending in Socorro and what are we benefiting 00:40:24
from? Why don't you change over from tri-state to somebody else or at least do 50%. I've been to those meetings. 00:40:30
Not one. 00:40:37
Not one trustee said. 00:40:39
And actually when one trustee did say something to me on a on a private. 00:40:41
Text. He was banned from the executive sessions. I mean, that's how that's the history of what's going on at the coop. 00:40:47
I just tell you that that's my story about the interaction with the coop and the trustees and the general manager. 00:40:56
But again, come again, thank you. Thank you for really having a great conversation about this. Thank you for coming to Jerry. If 00:41:04
you guys have questions, call me at my office. I can we can sit down and have a conversation about this. 00:41:12
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, John. 00:41:20
OK. Anybody else? 00:41:24
Yes, ma'am. 00:41:26
Hi a bit of a shift from the last thing I'm Amy Kimball post may remember. I started coming to meetings on and off a couple years 00:41:28
ago and the first thing I asked was if the agendas could be posted online and they have been since then which is great. I'm coming 00:41:35
because I want to try and figure out how the City Council works and how decisions are made for Socorro and so forth. And so my 00:41:42
question today is that that there's a consent agenda at each meeting and. 00:41:48
I'm wondering if that is information about that is available to the public and if I was curious about the. 00:41:56
The budget resolution items where I would find that information. 00:42:02
Hello. Once they're approved, they're they're on that if you go to that meeting. 00:42:07
There, there's there's. 00:42:13
The agenda, the minutes and then all the resolutions, budget resolutions and also the other resolutions, so details about what 00:42:15
what is in them. So it's after the meeting. 00:42:20
Yeah, it's actually once it gets approved tonight. 00:42:25
What's the mayor sign it? 00:42:31
Then I scan it and I post it on to the to the meeting. OK, thanks. I appreciate. And the consent agenda is something kind of new 00:42:34
that we started it only started about. 00:42:38
Six months ago, a year ago, because we used to go through each one of these things and. 00:42:43
I mean, it just kind of was. 00:42:48
Just then there was consent everybody. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's why we put that under consent agenda shouldn't be any touchy 00:42:51
things, you know, they're basically. Yeah. But like Polo said, it's posted. Yeah, OK. 00:42:57
And Mr. Mayor, the council can remove items from the consent consent agenda for additional discussion. 00:43:04
All right, Thank you. What else? Anything else? 00:43:12
And we usually sit down and sit around here and talk about things and and and you know, for projects. 00:43:15
We have a thing called ICIP where we list the projects that the council thinks is our top priority and I don't know if that's is 00:43:20
that on AI was actually announced that later the state has moved up the deadline from the middle of September to the middle of 00:43:27
July and we will start hosting those meetings at our main meetings. We'll have four meetings, 2IN May and two in June. 00:43:33
And get it ready for a vote by resolution to be submitted in July and the public is allowed to come up and bring ideas of what 00:43:40
they want to do on projects that want projects, big projects in the city. 00:43:46
So things like streets to be paved, etc. 00:43:53
We've had a big thing on speed bumps lately. We just spent about $40,000 on that, so. 00:43:57
Things of that nature are big projects. You know our water lines, shorelines which we're doing now, big 20 million, eight, $10 00:44:03
million project on Spring Street. We're tearing down part of the junior high school. We've gotten money to remodel the inside of 00:44:09
it. So those are some of the big projects that we've done so. 00:44:14
And we'll also be advertising the ICIP meetings for May and June and we will put the notice in the utility bills. 00:44:21
And post it on the website. 00:44:28
Thanks Mr. Salome, Also an opportunity to for public requests from the Budget Committee. 00:44:31
For community. 00:44:37
Ruby, When would that? When would it be a good time? 00:44:39
Oh. 00:44:44
But they can still bring it up to administration, I mean. 00:44:48
I would just like to add to that that even if you missed that, we prefer you request it now, not after the new budget is started 00:44:52
in July. 00:44:56
I don't have any requests. 00:45:01
What was your first name? 00:45:04
Amy Amy Kimball. 00:45:05
Mr. Mayor, part of curiosity is the current ICIP. 00:45:07
Anywhere on the website for public to see or. 00:45:12
I don't believe so, but we can post it. Yeah, great questions. I mean, that's something that I think people need to know. 00:45:18
Thank you. 00:45:26
And I could also e-mail it to you or print it to you before you leave that, or print for you before you leave tonight. 00:45:27
Anyone else? 00:45:34
All righty, we're going to go to Mr. Giggles. Kind of withdrew the topic that he was going to discuss, so he'll come at another 00:45:36
time. Manzanaris Ave. the Transportation Project Fund, make a motion. We approve resolution #24-04-16A. 00:45:45
Second move seconded discussion. 00:45:54
That's true my Mr. Mayor, just to point out that A is for a total of 1.124 million. The match is 5%, which is very low for a state 00:45:57
funded project, which means if we get the 1.24. 00:46:03
All our all our cost would be is 56200 and just that in both of these resolutions. 00:46:10
The council's authorizing me to submit the application, which is due May 20. 00:46:18
3rd and that we have sufficient funds for the matching fund. 00:46:23
And we have sufficient funding for operation and maintenance and you give me the authority to enter the cooperative agreement of 00:46:29
were approved and again that's for both resolutions. 00:46:34
And we've got a resolution for the Courthouse Rd. 00:46:43
All in favor. 00:46:47
Make a motion to approve resolution #24-04-16B. 00:46:49
I second moved and seconded discussion. Mr. Manette. The resolutions are identical other than for the projects. As I said, these 00:46:54
are for the streets around the courthouse that weren't done as Mccutchen was done the end of March. 00:47:01
The total project request is 700,000 and our match would be 35,000 of that. 00:47:09
On film, aye. 00:47:15
And now we're going to go to the thing I've alluded to. We are. 00:47:17
Working with the company. 00:47:23
And trying to develop a solar array. 00:47:24
And a battery energy energy storage. 00:47:28
And we would like the Council to. 00:47:30
Approve our relationship with them. It doesn't talk about any money. There's no. 00:47:33
Charge for this. If they are successful in getting us a grant, they will then. 00:47:40
Get their money from the grant, not there is no money. 00:47:46
Expended by the city on this Mr. Again actually have some questions along those lines on six and three the cost and expenses. 00:47:49
Where it talks about. 00:47:58
So this is. I mean, I'm kind of confused because it talks about this is an agreement. 00:48:00
That they're going to perform the duties. 00:48:04
In section 1.3 the roles and responsibilities, but then it also talks about. 00:48:07
That. 00:48:12
Hermit that we have, the court decides within the term not to execute a contract. 00:48:15
Where would that contract come into play? And then if we don't execute that contract, we're liable up to $250,000. 00:48:20
For the expenses that were paid by ICAST. 00:48:28
And that's a good question. I think we asked him that, Donald. 00:48:31
Yes, this is a contingency B contract. So we will. It's a contract or an agreement. It's an agreement. It's not a contract, but 00:48:35
it's set up. So they're paying if we get paid. But if they put in two years worth of work and we say, OK, we don't want to do it 00:48:41
anymore, we're liable for up to 250,000 of whatever their incurred costs are. What would the contract be if we do not execute a 00:48:47
contract? What would the contract, What's the contract? I I think this is the contract. It's not a legal contract. Like you said, 00:48:53
it's a letter of agreement. 00:48:59
But anything? 00:49:06
We have no intention says not to execute a contract for the project development. 00:49:07
That's after they find the funding. 00:49:12
And then we so they find the funding, we decide we don't want it anymore, we're liable up to the expenses, up to $250,000 for the 00:49:15
work that they put into up to that point. Yes, Sir. OK. 00:49:19
There's no there's no match or any money that's coming out of the city, funds that's made clear to them. This is all going to be. 00:49:24
And there's money out there at the solar projects plus the electric project too, which will be piggybacked onto this once we get 00:49:30
with them. 00:49:35
We have submitted they'll submit a final invoice. 00:49:43
Within 30 days from termination or from the date that Socorro decides not to execute a final contract, what would that final 00:49:46
contract be? 00:49:50
I haven't seen that yet, but I can ask for it. 00:49:56
Are you basically saying you're just concerned about being on the up to $250,000? I just want to know if this is a contract or 00:50:00
this is just an agreement for because it's what I'm execute a final contract, I just don't know what the final contract would be. 00:50:07
Again, I think. 00:50:16
What it's saying is if they find funding, they expect us to sign a contract with a contractor to develop it for the project. Yes, 00:50:17
And we need to do that within 30 days. And if they don't find the money, then we're right. Yes, that's the whole idea, Mr. Ocampo. 00:50:24
That, that was it. If we if they do find the money and then we don't go through with the contract, then obviously grant money 00:50:31
probably wouldn't be awarded, it would be pulled back and we wouldn't be on the hook for what they did to try to get that grant 00:50:36
correct. No, I think we still would be no. That's my question. 00:50:41
The city would be, yeah, this idea is that we're moving ahead with solar. 00:50:48
Energy. 00:50:52
For our project out there and they're going to find the money to pay for it. Just a moment. And if they don't, you would then. 00:50:54
Not if they don't find the money to fund this. 00:51:03
That's not city money. 00:51:06
We're not going to do the project. 00:51:08
But if they do find the money and they spend time and finding the money, they're saying you guys need to pay us, You can't just 00:51:09
walk away from us. 00:51:13
Because I thought that the city was. 00:51:17
Wanting to get solar energy into our community, and that's just one way to do it and they're very successful. They're doing the 00:51:20
same thing with Aztec. 00:51:23
Mr. Mr. Mother is this time sensitive as far as. 00:51:29
The only reason it's time sensitive now is because if we don't start applying for these grants within the next month or so, we're 00:51:34
gonna have to wait a year to apply for them again. 00:51:38
But just to explain the process a little bit, we find what they call a noticeable word or no, no phone notice for opportunities or 00:51:44
something like that, and we send in a letter of intent. 00:51:50
And then we start filling out the application. 00:51:57
We submit the application for the grants you're talking about. Yes, Sir, if we. 00:52:00
If we're selected for an award, they send us a letter of award and then they start working on the grant agreement. 00:52:05
For us, both the science, so it's a lengthy process, but that also could be what they're referring to, assigning a contract, 00:52:11
assigning an agreement, saying, yes, we want this money and we're going to go after it, we're going to finish the project. 00:52:18
Is it putting that before the horse to think that we're doing solar before we're doing the actual? 00:52:25
It's actually in conjunction with it. 00:52:30
They also are working with Finley, our consultants that built the. 00:52:33
Or design the project and so this is kind of in conjunction, this is goes back to the visual aids that we had where you they 00:52:37
mapped out some areas that they could use for solar a few meetings ago, maybe a month or two ago. 00:52:43
That was probably maybe a month or two ago this year and that was the area and it's close to the substation that we're proposing. 00:52:51
But some of the chicken or the egg, I mean, we're trying to put all these together, especially to try to get in because there's 00:52:56
money available right now for for solar and for electric projects. 00:53:01
And so that's what and this company is very successful like I said they're doing with Aztec, they're going to I think going to do 00:53:07
it with Bloomfield. What what does it say if the industrial leg gets goes to a vote and doesn't get passed. 00:53:13
What would we do with the solar then? 00:53:20
If we or would we just be out the $250,000? 00:53:22
Well, I mean if we didn't, if it didn't pass, they're not as, I mean they may be out, but we're not going to be out 250,000 00:53:26
because we should be able to bring that to you in the next 2-3 months. 00:53:31
And so if it's, if it's not passed, then. 00:53:38
They'll say, well, you know, we spent $5000 on doing this. 00:53:41
Or 10,000, I'm gonna say 250,000 amounted to the time that they spent. But we've got, I mean. 00:53:46
I feel the Council had asked me to go ahead and move along with this industrial leg and find a way to, you know, to pay for it, 00:53:52
and that's what we're trying to present to the Council. 00:53:56
Mr. Mr. Organ thinking down down the road as well if it if it, let's just say the electricity city of the city provided. 00:54:01
Electricity never comes to fruition. 00:54:09
And we're building this project. 00:54:13
Will the city be able to use? 00:54:16
The solar power for city. 00:54:18
Electricity. 00:54:22
I think the coins and everything. The Co-op a year or two ago actually advertised to do a 1 Meg solar field, but they never came 00:54:25
to fruition. But if it didn't cost us anything and we put this down and we didn't do it and the coop continued to present 00:54:31
electricity, I think there would be more than happy to to buy it. And I think there's a there's a law that the governor is putting 00:54:37
forward. 00:54:42
That the solar farms. 00:54:49
Can also be put into the grid. 00:54:52
I think that's that's the new law I think they put in last year. 00:54:56
But yeah, I mean that that solar. 00:55:00
Electricity and we would be the owner of this. No, there's not going to be a third party. We're going to be the owner of this. And 00:55:02
so, yeah, I mean we would be, we'll be able to. 00:55:07
I have to give it away to the coop or. 00:55:12
You know, put it into the into the grid. 00:55:15
OK, Mr. Mayor, one last question. It talks to, it talks a lot about communication between the city and and I test. 00:55:21
Will be in the loop as far as you know. 00:55:28
The communicate somewhat of the communication that's going on between. 00:55:32
With well, I mean we can give you the updates on the grant applications. 00:55:36
And I think you know Marianne worked with I cast and I know you have there. 00:55:43
Professionalism and their expertise is, I mean you can kind of speak to that when they do their, their, I mean they do the work 00:55:49
and they're not going to charge you for things that they don't do. 00:55:54
The nonprofit, Yeah, it is and and. 00:56:01
I've met with rally before. His name is Ravi as well and he's, I mean he's really professional and and gives you what you what you 00:56:05
pay for. 00:56:10
What I did with the due diligence, yeah, they are Mr. Monett and Councillor Augie, what I believe the agreement is referring to as 00:56:16
far as communication is going through the grant process. They don't want us to agree to this and just say, OK, you're on your own. 00:56:21
You know, they're going to need to get information from us about our area and what we're trying to do and the local size of it and 00:56:26
exactly. 00:56:31
Don't know when you meet with them. Could it be that a counselor be present? 00:56:37
I guess the last the last concern. So in worst case scenario we the city would have solar. 00:56:46
Farm. Not, maybe, I don't want to say worst case scenario, but one of the scenarios that the score would own the solar a solar 00:56:54
farm, Yeah, yeah. 00:56:58
Best case scenario, best words equal. 00:57:03
It would be the worst. That would be the worst case scenario because. 00:57:07
If we didn't figure something. 00:57:13
Paid for. 00:57:19
Because the city we're going to go 100% for, grants make a profit. 00:57:21
I I don't doubt and again you can doubt me, but I don't doubt that we're going to have a municipal electric. 00:57:30
Utility. You know, I don't see the coop moving off the dime. I think I see tri-state going downhill. And that's just what's 00:57:38
happened everywhere else. 00:57:43
I know where Sakura Sakura. But I also look at what other communities are doing and if we don't keep up with that, we're going to 00:57:48
be left behind that that's that's what I and we have been left behind. 00:57:53
Mr. Mayor, sorry, I keep thinking of more stuff, but so let's say they go through all this stuff. We do still have the option. 00:57:59
They they present everything. They they they apply for the grants. 00:58:04
And everything. We still have the opportunity to say no, we don't want to do this. 00:58:10
We don't want to. We don't want to move on this project and then we'd pay him back. But if we if it doesn't, if it doesn't look 00:58:15
good and it's not going to come or anything that we can benefit from. After everything is all said and done, we have the. 00:58:21
Ticket as to what the what the cost of Miss Chavez? Lopez. Michael, what you might want to do is make an appointment to talk to 00:58:28
Ravi himself. 00:58:31
And I put you on the committee, I'll put Mr. Parker's on the committee to whenever we have any discussion with them, we'll let you 00:58:38
know. And you can do it on zoom or whatever, because they're they're in Denver, they like to do things on zoom. 00:58:43
So which definitely involve you with a with a. 00:58:48
I did. I picked up my packet last week on Thursday and I read through this analysis, met with Mr. Monet just asking questions 00:58:52
about this. 00:58:56
And that there's a lot more information just with the discussion with us right now that you know. So I. 00:59:00
You know, I wouldn't feel comfortable voting on it right at this moment personally, just because I don't have enough of the 00:59:06
information. 00:59:09
To make a decision, I understand that a solar field would be great, but. 00:59:12
If I just want to know what the heck we're going to do with it or anything, I'd like to take it to a vote. 00:59:16
Because we're going to miss out on that cycle. 00:59:21
Mr. Mayor, this this letter of agreement. 00:59:25
It would have nothing tide to the the infrastructure part. If we're going to go out and get more money, try to get grants to look 00:59:31
into that. This is only solar field, nothing tied into the. 00:59:36
Electrical. 00:59:43
That's why I want to get into an agreement with them, because they will also look for money for the electric grid. 00:59:44
The front, the power grid, not the solar grid. Yeah, they look for both. They look for money for both. But this specifically, is 00:59:49
this for solar? Yeah, Yeah. And it doesn't have anything to do with the electrical, right? 00:59:55
Doesn't have anything to do with electrical. Yeah, but they but they they said they would also look for money for. Once we get 01:00:01
into a agreement with them, they will also look for money for our for our project. 01:00:07
But we would have to enter into another agreement. 01:00:12
Correct, yes. But that would be as we develop further, you know relationship with them. 01:00:15
I think that's what we need to do. I mean you know you have to step into it. If you're not going to step into it, that's up to you 01:00:22
guys. But I think at this point we've got to, we've got to keep moving on with this project. If we keep delaying it, then we're 01:00:26
just going to delay it. If you guys haven't looked at it good enough, that's I'm sorry about that, but in my opinion we have to 01:00:31
move on with it. 01:00:36
I don't think that's the case. I just think we've been waiting on some numbers and we still haven't seen the numbers. 01:00:41
Nothing to do with numbers, Mr. Partridge. This has to do with an agreement that we're trying to get a grant for solar. I 01:00:47
understand that, but it has something to do with electricity and and something to do with what we're trying to. There's a 01:00:52
correlation between the two, I would imagine. I would hope one of my city councils would make a motion to accept this and you can 01:00:57
vote against it. I'll make a motion to accept it. 01:01:02
Second moved and seconded and if you wanted. 01:01:08
Do a roll call. You can do a you do a roll call vote. We'll just do it that way. 01:01:12
This is to accept an agreement with the. 01:01:18
I cast or solar field. 01:01:22
Desperate soul film, that's where. It's all of you counted Travis Lopez. Yes. 01:01:24
Councillor Fleming Yes. 01:01:31
Councillor Ocampo. 01:01:34
Yes, Counselor. Ogain No. 01:01:36
Councillor Partridge. Hello. 01:01:40
Councillor Romero, Yes. 01:01:42
Councillor Salomi. 01:01:45
Passes. 01:01:49
So and then the UH. 01:01:51
What's What's E4? 01:01:53
That was going to be my question, Mr. Mayor, was the. 01:01:58
Was the motion for the resolution or for the agreement? 01:02:02
Well, if they're going to develop it with the agreement. 01:02:07
Right, unless you want to vote on that too. Well, the agreement contains wording that it is adopted by resolution, so if we could 01:02:10
also approve the resolution even though we went out of order of the agenda. 01:02:16
I'll make a motion to approve the resolution 24416 C. 01:02:24
Seconded. 01:02:31
All in favor. 01:02:32
Aye Opposed. No, No. 01:02:33
So the eyes have it. 01:02:36
The new business, I don't know if you've seen the demolition of the junior high school. 01:02:38
Is moving along. 01:02:45
Where once we get that demolished then. 01:02:48
We have. 01:02:50
Plans to get that remodeled. I'm not sure if anybody's talked to you about it. I know people are saying, well, what's going on out 01:02:53
there, but we're doing the demolishing ourselves. The city is. 01:02:58
We had a problem with the scale out of the landfill, so we haven't been able to move that stuff. So the landfill has been closed 01:03:05
today. So we'll be moving that out, cleaning it up and hauling it off. So that's where we're at on that. What's going on with the 01:03:12
site Southwest? Do you know anything about the $100,000 grant? Have they gotten back with you as to what they plan to do? 01:03:20
They haven't. 01:03:28
So we need to. We need to. 01:03:29
Yeah, we met with them. They threw some things out out there and they're supposed to come back with some drawings here pretty 01:03:32
quick. But I thought we had a really good conversation. It was really good. We talked about getting a lot of public input once we 01:03:37
kind of get it together. But Paula, do we need to talk to him or see where they're at? 01:03:43
I'll give them a call tomorrow. 01:03:49
So, OK, the CDBG project, I don't know if you know about that. On Cuba Rd. we're short $400,000. We've applied for the extra 01:03:51
400,000, Donald, I don't know when we're supposed to hear that on the 20th or was it April? 01:03:58
I believe that's when the application was submitted and it's a slow process because it's a federal program, so one probably by 01:04:07
May. 01:04:10
OK, walkway in that area that we've accepted those roads. I don't know if you guys have been by there. I know Mr. Fleming has and 01:04:15
it's going to get striped. 01:04:20
Fowler is getting finished. 01:04:26
And McCutcheon has gotten finished. So and then we're going to be trying to get again. We ran short on Manzanari's because. 01:04:28
The cost of doing stuff has got just skyrocketed, so we're trying to get money for that. We've got some of it. 01:04:36
Yes, Sir. That was the TPF application, a resolution that was approved earlier. 01:04:43
And I apologize, the CDBG application was submitted on March 24th and I expect to hear by the end of May. 01:04:49
So and and the project had a junior high project is going. Mariano's project is going. 01:04:55
We're taking the rock. We didn't let you keep the rock, so we're moving the rock to the to the broader area. We're going to try to 01:05:02
get a crusher to get some. 01:05:07
Gravel or bass course out of it. So which we did before when we did the soccer fields. So that's getting on. We've got the money 01:05:13
for the skins for the rodeo and we've got money for a sound system. But we can't work on the sound system as Mr. Fleming knows. 01:05:21
Until we get the skin on. 01:05:29
And so the skin has been been that that project is on its way that that money has been the other the contractors taking the money 01:05:31
for that we still haven't worked out the heaters. 01:05:37
That's a touchy situation with heating. That's going to be a problem. I don't know. We're going to work on that. So that that's 01:05:44
going to be, that's going to be the next project. 01:05:48
I guess if there's hearings, what about? 01:05:56
Air conditioning and how would that over it? I mean, another stands in there, but like about the only thing we got is the fans, 01:05:59
you know? Yeah. 01:06:02
Huh. Well, no, they're they're. 01:06:06
They're they're in trouble. They're having problems with the family. 01:06:10
The motor is not working like it should, but we'll get that. We'll get that fixed. 01:06:15
The I can say it now we've got Neil McCoy. 01:06:19
Coming on July. 01:06:26
The contract signed. 01:06:28
So that's a big event. Hopefully everybody goes. 01:06:30
The tickets won't be that expensive, but we would like to get 2000 people there so we can. 01:06:33
Pay for it. This will be one big thing that we haven't ever done before is to have a. 01:06:39
He's not a recent guy, but he's, you know, he's got pretty good he. 01:06:43
Oh yeah, yeah. So did you see him? No. Yeah, he was at Buffalo Thunder. So we can try to get that advertised and hopefully tier 01:06:47
sea blend people will come from all over to come and see that. 01:06:53
They had the prom. I guess that was good. 01:06:59
Had a good prom. 01:07:02
What other events have you got going on there? 01:07:08
Use sign language because I'm deaf. 01:07:14
What are you saying? 01:07:18
Oh, great. 01:07:23
And that was really, really nice. Thank you girls for opening the doors and closing the doors and they're really good hosts. So 01:07:27
thanks to we've gotten the permit now to open the gate. 01:07:33
For our race to come off of RV's to come off of Hwy. 60. 01:07:40
That they can go in there, they put the cattle guard in and all that. I don't know if we've had any more out there or not, but if 01:07:46
we can get people, Steve, anybody. 01:07:50
Extra coming in from the 60. 01:07:54
OK. And we're going to be putting up a sign. 01:07:58
So but we'll we'll hopefully we'll get that you had your shooting. 01:08:00
Shooting horseback. Shooting This this weekend? So is soccer starting? 01:08:05
OK, so I don't know if any any other questions about any projects or? 01:08:14
That's here, Mr. Mayor, just to add about the funding for the sound system and all the other capital outlays, the additional line. 01:08:20
900 I can't remember the total now, but the different additional funding for Finley Gymnasium, the exit landscaping, the sound 01:08:29
system, the matching funds for the lights at City Hill Park. And I'm going to forget the fifth one. But anyhow, I. 01:08:37
The commercial building, yes, Eagle picture site development. We we had a meeting last week. They sent out the questionnaires. You 01:08:45
have to fill out a questionnaire for each one. 01:08:51
Those are due next Thursday. 01:08:58
I met with Floyd yesterday and he helped me get through some of them. But the good news is this is all five of the projects are 01:09:00
general fund money, so they should at least start awarding in July rather than waiting for a bond sale in October or December. So 01:09:06
that's the good news. We should be able to move on those projects very quickly. 01:09:13
Yeah, we got about two and a half million. 01:09:20
Mr. Mckartridge, the Rocky Mountain National Wrestling tournament will be there May 25th. They They're starting to. 01:09:22
They're starting to have some dialogue with us and that'll be a big one. That's that Spider-Man one. That's. 01:09:30
Pretty big deal. 01:09:36
Just want to say. 01:09:39
I'm on the recreation committee and Mike does a great job. He did a great job with the flag football. I got a lot of compliments 01:09:41
from parents and all this good stuff, but he told me today his guys can under all the mats for you. 01:09:47
Tape them up. So I'm just saying, hey, let's see. I want to see. 01:09:53
And then in July, we have another wrestling tournament that's done at night under the lights. 01:09:59
Here and it's an organization that the mayor we brought in to meet with the mayor about eight years ago we brought him down and. 01:10:07
They've been coming this a third time now, so they're obviously doing good because they're. 01:10:17
Their business, I mean they might be a youth organization, but their business and they obviously like it because they keep coming 01:10:21
back. So that's a good thing and we're on their schedule and they have tournaments from New Jersey to California. So and little 01:10:26
off the clothes on the map and does it going back, yeah, it's good. 01:10:31
Well, you know, about nine years ago, I got invited to go to Phoenix to that tournament. That's when I kind of got the bug. I 01:10:37
said, geez, what are these people doing here? I mean, it was like there's 20,000 people in this gym. 01:10:43
And and there was, it was like wasn't a three ring circus, it was like a 20 ring circus they got. And they're so professional that 01:10:49
they've got the timer they've got the judges they they're putting it on. Hopefully your Wi-Fi there is gonna be all upgraded. 01:10:55
And so, you know, it's unbelievable, unbelievable how how big and how how much, how much respect Sakura has gotten because of your 01:11:02
program. I mean that's a that that's that's a lot of respect for them to commit to come in here. 01:11:10
It's really they're treated well. They like it too. I mean, just the city has done. 01:11:19
Reasonable place to have a tournament and they do a good job. What the staff does a good job. So it's there's a good relationship 01:11:23
with the wrestling team, but the staff does a good job and the city of scored does a good job for sure. 01:11:28
Mr. Salami. 01:11:34
Tech Golf Course is going to be hosting the State Golf. 01:11:36
I was listening to Mickey this morning and he was pretty excited. He says he's got some good players. He says if they all play 01:11:48
together at the same time and do well, that's when he needs to. So that's that's a that's a big catch to get the we've been 01:11:55
wanting to. They always have it as letter or someplace else, so it's going to be great. 01:12:01
That's terrific. Anyone. Dan Riley, your niece? 01:12:08
Playing golf with here and there all over the place, I heard she got us looking. The press that says she got 20 offers already 01:12:14
from D1 School for the junior. 01:12:17
That's what a lot of practice does. Every day, every day. 01:12:23
Our little golf course, wonderful place. It's it's really neat to see the culmination of kids from from town, the kids from tech, 01:12:28
the adults from town, the adults from Tech. When you go to that golf course and you tee up that golf ball or you practice, you 01:12:35
know what? Nothing else matters but that game. And so that golf course has brought people, tech and the techies and the townies 01:12:41
together for 60 years. 01:12:48
Wonderful place to be and kids love it. There's kids all up and down that range. Miguel and Kristen do a wonderful job. They've 01:12:56
taken ownership of those kids. 01:13:01
And the parents. And he accepts them. In middle school, even some little elementary kids go up there. There's a summer youth on 01:13:06
course program that the PGA of America is putting on up there, a bunch of kids out there playing golf. So it's really a wonderful 01:13:13
thing. Not since the days of Mr. Fleming starting all of us kids out there. When he was a science teacher and a golf coach at the 01:13:20
junior high, we had one of the only junior high golf teams. 01:13:27
And behold, that golf course has been nothing but a jewel for our community and and we really need to utilize it. And I encourage 01:13:35
all of our families to go up there and hit balls and get those kids engaged in the game. And it's just a wonderful place to be 01:13:41
grow up. 01:13:47
And Speaking of tech, they've got a new president, I think he started on the 15th. 01:13:53
We said goodbye to. 01:13:59
Doctor Lopez and Lonnie Marcus and they appreciated the plant. 01:14:01
A car both of them called personally and so. 01:14:06
We'll have a new president. Hopefully he'll and I know he will because and his wife support the community. I think they will. 01:14:09
Old business. 01:14:18
And personnel matters. 01:14:21
We've got Christian attorney, fire recruit completed probation. Thomas Padilla, fire recruit completed probation. 01:14:23
And we have the. 01:14:31
OK. 01:14:34
Personnel changes as read. Second seconded discussion All in favor aye, Mr. Mayor Mr. As we go back and just to give the council 01:14:37
an opportunity for executive session. 01:14:42
An opportunity to go into executive session. 01:14:50
Miss Travis Lopez? I'm sorry. 01:14:53
And then we've got. 01:14:59
What's the legal matter? 01:15:02
Oh, you're just that's part of the executive session. 01:15:04
Oh, I just go ahead and turn it over here. I'm getting AC now. I'm sorry. 01:15:07
I won't run again. I'm not gonna run again. 01:15:10
I got my fingers crossed. No the business Registration. Heartful Horizon Social Care. Celeste Griego, Escondida, MX Enterprises 01:15:15
Automotive. Anna Cooper Mechanic shop. Northstar Communications. Cody Nelson Construction. 01:15:23
RJ Corman I made the I met those guys with that are taking up the corn and made them come and get a business. 01:15:33
This is the this is the company that came out to clean it up. RJ Corman Railroad Services. Because you know, you know how much 01:15:41
that multiplied the corn out? It was 36. Was it 36,000 tons? 01:15:48
Thanks. 01:15:57
He buried, he buried it, he buried it, he buried it. And the people, I told people to come and get a pickup and just load up. 01:15:58
They didn't let them, correct. 01:16:09
I know I was on my way and I they called and said you can't pick it up, I have to turn back. But the City made of over 100,000 or 01:16:12
something like that. 01:16:15
What? You told me 140. 01:16:21
I mean, that's ridiculous. And the corn is worth about about 800,000. 01:16:26
And you know, I, I, I sent him, I sent him, I sent him. A thing that I saw on Facebook from Vanetta Perry. It said that there, you 01:16:33
know, what about spontaneous combustion? Because, you know, they have like, things explode when you have all this corn. And we had 01:16:39
to make sure they didn't have an explosion out there has a lot of corn. 01:16:45
And then those, did you see the cars, I mean? 01:16:52
And you know, you see these black cylindrical cars that go by. 01:16:56
And you worry that something like that, You know, what was it? Palestine. OH, or something horrible earlier? 01:17:00
Anyway, Spanish rustic furniture. Well, this is a transient vendor. He has approval locations only. This is furniture. So that's 01:17:06
it. 01:17:11
Anybody. Mr. business registrations, we've been seconded discussion all in favor. 01:17:19
May 14th My God. 01:17:27
Is that the first meeting is May 14th. Next meeting we're going to have a lot of people out of town that day. So we're requesting 01:17:31
that the meeting be moved to May 14th and we're also requesting for our finance department that does. 01:17:37
Second meeting be moved to the last Tuesday of May so we have more time to get the preliminary budget submitted. Well then make 01:17:44
sure that Ed Reyes comes and gives us a gives us a demonstration. I mean, not demonstration but a point and he can do it if he 01:17:50
wants to do it on Zoom. But what he gave us last Thursday, if he's got things buttoned up maybe I think the council wants to hear 01:17:55
those numbers. 01:18:00
No, Well. 01:18:08
Well, there's one on the 14th, one on the 20th. Well, given the option, if you can do it on the 14th, fine. If not, then do it on 01:18:09
the 20th. But I think they want to hear it in May. 01:18:14
And the meeting on the 14th or is that we're moving the meeting from the 15th to the 14th or? 01:18:21
No, the 14th of May 7th. It should have been on the 7th. 01:18:26
From the OK and the 21st to the 28th, is you think you have information about the loan by any chance? 01:18:29
Did Ryan? 01:18:39
You know one of our local guys, Ryan Olgin is working at the New Mexico Finance and so. 01:18:43
Hopefully we'll get some information from him. 01:18:49
So and then what I'd like to see, like I think they're wanting to see something. 01:18:52
So, OK. All right. Thank you. We're adjourned. 01:18:57