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| Here Councillor Travis Lopez, Councillor Dean. | 00:00:00 | |
| Councillor Fleming. | 00:00:06 | |
| Councillor Ocampo. | 00:00:07 | |
| Counselor again here. | 00:00:09 | |
| Councillor Partridge Council, Romero. | 00:00:11 | |
| He is on the way and he is probably passing Lematar by now. | 00:00:14 | |
| Counselor Salome. | 00:00:19 | |
| We do have a. | 00:00:21 | |
| All right. | 00:00:23 | |
| Certifying of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands. | 00:00:28 | |
| One nation under God indivisible, at the beginning of justice for all. | 00:00:34 | |
| Mr. Fleming, A motion to approve the agenda as revised. | 00:00:44 | |
| Test agenda. | 00:00:52 | |
| Accept the consent agenda. | 00:00:55 | |
| All in favor, aye. | 00:00:58 | |
| Post and. | 00:01:01 | |
| Consideration. Well, that's all under consent agenda, right? I don't know. Right to #4. | 00:01:04 | |
| Yeah. | 00:01:11 | |
| OK, Connor. | 00:01:13 | |
| And mom. | 00:01:15 | |
| Dad, everybody's there. | 00:01:17 | |
| Always come bearing gifts. I always like that when they make a presentation. | 00:01:21 | |
| Wanted to come to thank you guys for letting us host the 5K at the Plaza. | 00:01:30 | |
| Let's and and sponsoring. | 00:01:42 | |
| And come on, tell us what you did. | 00:01:46 | |
| How many people were there and what the times were? | 00:01:49 | |
| It was about 200 people. | 00:01:53 | |
| About $4000. | 00:01:58 | |
| Raised we we raising money with 65 doses. | 00:02:02 | |
| Don't find a cue. | 00:02:06 | |
| Yeah. How many years have you been doing this now? | 00:02:08 | |
| Technically 8 technically 8 technically. | 00:02:11 | |
| Yeah. | 00:02:16 | |
| One year was in Covad, so it was virtual so. | 00:02:18 | |
| Well, you did a fantastic job. Yes, fantastic job and carrying it through. | 00:02:22 | |
| So how old are you and how tall are you? | 00:02:28 | |
| 14 about two and 15 I don't know how tall is you? See you. You like getting taller and taller your grandpa's. You don't need to | 00:02:32 | |
| use that step anymore. That Gordy built for you. | 00:02:37 | |
| So that's great. | 00:02:43 | |
| But congratulations for a terrific. | 00:02:45 | |
| Annual event. | 00:02:48 | |
| And you've got T-shirts for us. All right, There's some more over there. We can pass them around. | 00:02:50 | |
| Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. | 00:02:55 | |
| Perfect. | 00:03:02 | |
| Any other comments that you want to make? | 00:03:05 | |
| Great. How's your swim team doing? | 00:03:09 | |
| Yeah, what's what's happening with that? | 00:03:14 | |
| Either one. | 00:03:17 | |
| Well, and we're we're going to get the, we're going to get the summer swimming going. | 00:03:24 | |
| Have lifeguards. We're going to have all that get stuff ready to go. Great. Terrific. Yes, Sir. | 00:03:33 | |
| I'd like to speak my name. My name is. | 00:03:39 | |
| And I would like to say I was wondering about Park Street. | 00:03:42 | |
| If you guys, you know, I know that was WPA. That was 1937. Whatever. | 00:03:46 | |
| Is there any asbestos related issues with that? | 00:03:54 | |
| But well, because it does it like every time I walk down Park Street, there's dust growing everywhere. | 00:04:00 | |
| Are you talking about, I'm worried about are you talking about the our demolition? | 00:04:06 | |
| Your demolition across from the. | 00:04:12 | |
| You're you're absolutely right about asking about that, but the asbestos was already remediated into that from that building. | 00:04:14 | |
| But they can blow the dust out into the street, but there's no asbestos in there. | 00:04:23 | |
| There's no toxic or hazardous, yeah. | 00:04:27 | |
| No, no, no. There was asbestos, but it's been remediated. | 00:04:31 | |
| It's been taken out. | 00:04:35 | |
| Yes, Sir, we have to. I don't have any health effects on that from the dust. | 00:04:38 | |
| And we're trying to water it down, But yes, not from the headless. There's no hazardous material because we have to do that. We | 00:04:43 | |
| have to get that evaluated by a special. | 00:04:47 | |
| We did. We spent almost 100. We spent $100,000 in removing. | 00:04:53 | |
| Yes Sir, it was in the IT was in the tile on the floor. | 00:04:59 | |
| And and there was, yeah, you're absolutely right about bringing that up. But it was taken care of. It was out, taken out. | 00:05:02 | |
| Before we demolish. | 00:05:09 | |
| I had your police officers took care of some business about, oh, it was seven months ago. | 00:05:13 | |
| And four months ago I went to your. | 00:05:21 | |
| Here tonight. | 00:05:27 | |
| Was it Greenwood? | 00:05:28 | |
| Back in Greenwood and I went to him and that was three weeks after it happened and and I had an issue and and he said he'd take | 00:05:30 | |
| care of it. | 00:05:34 | |
| But nothing has ever been taken care of. | 00:05:40 | |
| So does your Police Department take care of this stuff or? | 00:05:43 | |
| You just blow it up. | 00:05:47 | |
| Well, let me I'm going to look into that. I didn't know. I'm not sure exactly the incident, but I will ask. He's the assistant | 00:05:49 | |
| police chief Greenwood course music. | 00:05:53 | |
| But, but, but I went to him directly because afterwards he said, Oh yeah, I'll take care of it. And then he didn't do anything. | 00:05:58 | |
| And I know they didn't investigate it. | 00:06:06 | |
| I went, I went there. | 00:06:09 | |
| We're ahead, the incident, And I asked him, they took care of the city. Did they come in and investigate? They didn't investigate. | 00:06:12 | |
| Could you could you tell me your last name? | 00:06:16 | |
| Heinz Hein HIN Yes, yes. I'll have an answer for you tomorrow. I don't. He should have been here. The son is playing baseball. I | 00:06:21 | |
| thought he was going to be here, so. | 00:06:26 | |
| That's what this is for. He was going to be here, but his son had a baseball game and he's at the baseball game. But. | 00:06:34 | |
| I will get that answer for you first thing tomorrow morning. Yeah, but he even said, you know, you got a battery, it charged | 00:06:42 | |
| against you. | 00:06:45 | |
| And I was looking, you know, I'm just thinking, well, I wasn't expecting. I just wanted to some charge against this, you know, | 00:06:48 | |
| even a young kid. And he beat me up because I'm an older dude. I. | 00:06:54 | |
| I am absolutely sympathetic to what you're saying. People shouldn't say I'll take care of it and not get back with you, OK? I | 00:07:01 | |
| agree with you and I'll have you tomorrow. | 00:07:06 | |
| OK. And will you, will you give Polo your telephone number? And I won't make it public, but if you could give him a phone number | 00:07:10 | |
| so I can call you. I'll be there. OK. Thank you. Thank you for coming. | 00:07:15 | |
| What else? What about? | 00:07:24 | |
| Good evening, Mayor Basker, City Council members. | 00:07:30 | |
| Want to take this opportunity to invite all Sapporo Electric members? That includes everyone of you. | 00:07:34 | |
| To our annual meeting on this Saturday, April 20th. Registration starts from 1:00 to 3:00. | 00:07:42 | |
| We are giving away. | 00:07:50 | |
| A $25.00 bill credit if you do come and register. So that's something that people. | 00:07:53 | |
| That'll come everybody who's a member. | 00:08:00 | |
| True. So if they're a member and they have an account, they will get a $25 real. | 00:08:03 | |
| Registration, like I said, is from 1:00 to 3:00 PM at New Mexico Tech Macy's Center. | 00:08:10 | |
| The program in the meeting will follow right after that. | 00:08:17 | |
| The second thing I would like to can I ask you about the meeting? Will you post the agenda on your website? It's already posted on | 00:08:21 | |
| the website. | 00:08:25 | |
| It's also posted on our door. | 00:08:31 | |
| And great. | 00:08:36 | |
| I'd also like to to follow up on the cooperatives request for a franchise ordinance. | 00:08:42 | |
| We've asked that the ordinance be placed on the agenda several times. | 00:08:48 | |
| We received an explanation on how the process works when requesting an ordinance from Mr. Pollock Panetta. | 00:08:51 | |
| So I asked that the process be started and I'm here tonight to follow up on the latest updates on the cooperatives request. | 00:09:01 | |
| This is this is a public. | 00:09:12 | |
| Comment time. | 00:09:15 | |
| I have seen your request, I've seen Mr. Panetta's response to you. | 00:09:18 | |
| And I'm still waiting for a complete answers. | 00:09:23 | |
| To the questions that I sent specifically on the money that you have borrowed as to how much that was spent in the City of | 00:09:27 | |
| Socorro, I have not received an answer to that and that's why I'm not recommending to the council that we move ahead with any | 00:09:33 | |
| ordinance now, if you so as administratively as mayor. | 00:09:39 | |
| I'm not going to put it on the agenda. If one of the city councilors wants to do that at a future meeting, I'm more than happy to | 00:09:45 | |
| accommodate them. But I am at this point, not interested in. | 00:09:51 | |
| Carrying on any further? | 00:09:57 | |
| Conversation when the coop until they answer my questions that I sent them. | 00:10:02 | |
| Two months ago. OK. Is that Mister Anaya? Chairman. I'm sorry. Sorry, I don't mean to. Is that the only question that you're | 00:10:08 | |
| looking to be? | 00:10:13 | |
| Answered Umm. | 00:10:18 | |
| And no, I think, I think there's there's ones. | 00:10:19 | |
| You have several years ago you did a GPS program on all your polls and and and I would like I would I wanted to see how many of | 00:10:23 | |
| those polls are on how much of our property and you said you couldn't answer how much of our property that. | 00:10:31 | |
| Using, but at least you tell me. | 00:10:39 | |
| You're where your poles are, and then I can deduce how much property that you're, you know, using as a as a franchise, but at this | 00:10:43 | |
| point. | 00:10:48 | |
| And I was going to go further as to where we're at on our. | 00:10:53 | |
| Industrial park leg We're out. We're there. We've already gotten a price. | 00:10:57 | |
| We've already got a business. | 00:11:02 | |
| Pro forma and right now we're looking for financing and just to let the council know that the the amount is about 15,000,000 and | 00:11:07 | |
| that includes A substation that would serve the city. | 00:11:12 | |
| And it includes the cost of electricity at $0.05 a kilowatt. | 00:11:18 | |
| Plus the willing charge. | 00:11:24 | |
| From tri-state and a Wheeling charge from P&M. | 00:11:25 | |
| Being charged from Tri states twice as much as the one from PNM, but that makes the amount of what it costs to get that | 00:11:30 | |
| electricity about $0.07 a kilowatt. | 00:11:34 | |
| And the amount of energy for that leg is about two and a half million. It generates about four and a half $1,000,000 in revenue if | 00:11:40 | |
| we borrow the money at 8, 1/2%. | 00:11:45 | |
| We to keep the rates at the same level we are. | 00:11:51 | |
| Where we would be in debt for about 500,000. | 00:11:57 | |
| If we can get it at 3%. | 00:12:02 | |
| We would be ahead. We would be making money. So that's and I and I I think Ed Reyes. | 00:12:04 | |
| Has a performer tradition as a PDF on that. | 00:12:12 | |
| Not completed yet, no. | 00:12:16 | |
| So this maybe is gonna go further into some of those, OK. But this is just an overall view that I'm telling you. And so we've | 00:12:18 | |
| already moved forward with the industrial leg and we are in the process also and today we're gonna be having the council. | 00:12:25 | |
| Either approve or not approve a relationship with a company called Icasa who is going to get us a grant for solar. | 00:12:35 | |
| Which is, which will be put out there. This will be part of the system and also will help us get money. There's monies available | 00:12:43 | |
| for electric grids and so they're going to help us with that also. And I think Marianne Travis Lopez is familiar with the people | 00:12:50 | |
| that I, I, I cast and and they're the ones that we're going to be dealing with. So we're there. | 00:12:57 | |
| At getting our industrial. | 00:13:05 | |
| Corridor electric production on getting going. It's not going to happen overnight and you will probably get an extension. | 00:13:09 | |
| For month to month of your franchise, there's no question that you will, but we're not administratively, I'm not willing. | 00:13:18 | |
| To look at another ordinance. | 00:13:27 | |
| I don't, I don't mind doing a resolution that states that we're going to be continuing our franchise with Socorro electric coop | 00:13:31 | |
| month to month after May. | 00:13:35 | |
| I don't have a problem with that and as we. | 00:13:40 | |
| Roll out our electric grid. | 00:13:43 | |
| That will mean that the franchise. | 00:13:46 | |
| In that leg. | 00:13:49 | |
| In my opinion, would be void and then we will keep on the. | 00:13:51 | |
| Movement of the rest of the electric utility through the city. | 00:13:56 | |
| Is the stuff that you're you're talking about the 15,000,000 and all of that, is that open to public? | 00:13:59 | |
| Not yet, but it will be. Yeah, absolutely. But right now, as I mentioned address and and you know, I know you have an IPRA | 00:14:06 | |
| request. | 00:14:10 | |
| For the city and that will be made available to you once we sign the contract. We're still in negotiations and that comes under. | 00:14:16 | |
| The purview of of. | 00:14:24 | |
| Kind of objective, but we never go into executive session. I just tell people what we're doing, but. | 00:14:28 | |
| That really comes under under business negotiation. | 00:14:33 | |
| And so I can't. | 00:14:37 | |
| I can't. | 00:14:39 | |
| Public and available to everybody until I get that written up from our finance advisor. | 00:14:41 | |
| But it will be, it will be made public, Mr. Ology. So are we going to see all these numbers and not everything before we before | 00:14:46 | |
| the contract signed or is it actually going to be, are we going to get the numbers with the contract and have to decide then? No, | 00:14:51 | |
| no, you'll get the numbers first. | 00:14:56 | |
| So the numbers that numbers are out there the only. | 00:15:01 | |
| So the ones that were that you say you're gonna have by the end of last year and then at the end of February I believe? | 00:15:05 | |
| That we still haven't gotten yet. We're going to get those before. | 00:15:10 | |
| Well, Ed said he'd give us a date. He gave. He gave us a presentation. Councillor Dean was at it. He gave us a presentation. | 00:15:14 | |
| Last Thursday. | 00:15:22 | |
| And he's just going to firm up the numbers now. Yeah, he he needed to go back in and look at some other numbers because we. | 00:15:25 | |
| Exact. We don't want roundabout numbers. | 00:15:33 | |
| Before you know what time to absorb all that, yes, absolutely. | 00:15:37 | |
| And probably have a chance to talk to Co-op about it so that's yeah absolutely a lot of delay was was getting it from Finley | 00:15:39 | |
| because of the. | 00:15:43 | |
| Just the cost and the wait time and they finally firm that up and then once I got to to head race or or financial person. | 00:15:49 | |
| And then he started exorbitant. So he gave us kind of a preliminary, but he still it's it's not complete. | 00:15:59 | |
| But Ruby has a call into the New Mexico Finance Authority. | 00:16:05 | |
| And to see what kind of interest rates are available. The interest rates that I was telling you where we would be losing 500,000 | 00:16:10 | |
| is actually would be a loan from Guzman at 8 1/2% and we're not we're not we would not propose that to the council, that's too | 00:16:16 | |
| high. We can get better rates than that. But once we get that, once we get the and I'm just giving an overview and I will give you | 00:16:21 | |
| that to you. I'm hoping by the next City Council meeting we'll have it in in paper on a on A and I can have him maybe do a | 00:16:27 | |
| presentation to the council. | 00:16:33 | |
| Paul asked him to see if he could be available to do a presentation of the council. | 00:16:41 | |
| On the, you know, it's not the next meeting, the new meeting after, but we definitely need to get that. | 00:16:46 | |
| For a voter discussion, is it is it going to be for a voter or just discussion? | 00:16:53 | |
| Discussion and information? Yeah. No. No. Not a vote No. | 00:16:59 | |
| Mr. Mayor, the questions that Jared was asking about, did we clarify that what we wanted them to answer for us? I mean I I've | 00:17:05 | |
| clarified it in the letter that I sent them and the reply I got was so. | 00:17:11 | |
| Small that that wasn't really anything we could digest and I could talk to the to the council about and as I said you, you know. | 00:17:20 | |
| We wanted some information. That's a big one. That's the big one out of the millions of dollars that you are in debt. | 00:17:29 | |
| Where did you spend that money? | 00:17:38 | |
| And I and I don't understand why you wouldn't be able to give that to us. Because anytime you borrow money, you have to tell them | 00:17:40 | |
| where you're gonna spend it before you get it. That's not necessarily the way that it works in the Co-op world. It's disseminated | 00:17:45 | |
| across our whole grid and our whole system and our whole. | 00:17:51 | |
| The way that we work as a whole, so the. | 00:17:57 | |
| The questions that you're that you're asking are specific to what we have here in the city of Socorro. | 00:18:01 | |
| That's not necessarily how it works with us because it. | 00:18:09 | |
| It is spread over the whole. | 00:18:12 | |
| The whole Is it possible to get the answers? Can you get the answer? | 00:18:16 | |
| Well, I mean. | 00:18:22 | |
| It's a. It's a very very complicated. | 00:18:24 | |
| And you know, another question that I have is Mr. Panetta was a manager. When? When, when you, when you? | 00:18:28 | |
| Go out for for a loan. Don't you have to include your four year plan that just that? | 00:18:36 | |
| Actually tells USDA where where these projects are going to happen. Yes, but. | 00:18:41 | |
| I understand that it's a big area. | 00:18:48 | |
| But, but they're in that plan. It says, OK, this is in this area, this isn't. I can see if you're replacing poles and tomorrow | 00:18:50 | |
| you're going to say well in Kettering County or you're going to replace poles. So I'm sure you could break that down a little bit. | 00:18:58 | |
| Right, but it's what was asked of us. | 00:19:08 | |
| Is what was spent in the city of Socorro. | 00:19:12 | |
| And it's either whether or not we need to get down to the minutiae. | 00:19:16 | |
| Or whether we just give you an overall. And that leads me to my next question. Is the Franchise ordinance conditional on the | 00:19:20 | |
| subjective interpretation of our responses? | 00:19:25 | |
| I'm sorry, say that again. Is the Franchise Ordinance conditional on your subjective interpretation of our responses? | 00:19:32 | |
| That's what I implied when I sent that letter. | 00:19:42 | |
| So it is subjective. | 00:19:44 | |
| It's your interpretation. | 00:19:46 | |
| My my support of extending the franchise agreement with a Co-op. | 00:19:48 | |
| Is contingent upon answering those questions because the question that I have, what's the benefit for the City of Socorro? | 00:19:56 | |
| Of the franchise agreement and the continual sale of electricity that the city of Socorro is footing in the bill for and not | 00:20:05 | |
| getting the benefit of the loan payments that you're making for. | 00:20:11 | |
| Work being done in the whole system. | 00:20:18 | |
| That was one of the reasons I asked that question. | 00:20:21 | |
| Because if somebody asks me how much money Ravi have you spent on Chaparral Rd. I can ask Ruby and Donald to go look it up and we | 00:20:25 | |
| I can tell you exactly how much money we borrowed the sewer project there. I can tell you how much money we're going to borrow to | 00:20:30 | |
| do the sewer project on Spring Street. I don't say that. The whole city, I can't find how much because when I borrow that money | 00:20:35 | |
| from USDA. | 00:20:41 | |
| I have to give them an engineering report on the area that I'm going to do that improvement on, and I'm not, I'm not sure that | 00:20:47 | |
| your answer is. | 00:20:51 | |
| Truthful and saying, well, we don't know where we spent the money. Well, it's like Polo said, you have to specifically tell USDA | 00:20:57 | |
| or the Co bank where you have their biggest loans. This is how we're going to spend the money and this is where we're going to | 00:21:02 | |
| spend. | 00:21:07 | |
| I don't know why you can't. | 00:21:14 | |
| Share that. | 00:21:16 | |
| I will get with. | 00:21:18 | |
| With my management team and see what what we can come up with and and maybe possibly. | 00:21:19 | |
| Get down to the. | 00:21:26 | |
| Like I said, the minutiae of everything and see if we can't get you an answer for that. | 00:21:28 | |
| In my mind is not minutia, it's it's, it's what. | 00:21:33 | |
| What benefit is the City of Socorro? | 00:21:36 | |
| Getting from the coop. | 00:21:39 | |
| As far as upgrading the system. | 00:21:42 | |
| With the loans that you're that the city and all the people that use the city services for electricity are paying to you right | 00:21:44 | |
| now, and they're paying it in tomato. Are they paying in Magdalena? Evidently the mayor from Magdalena is very sympathetic to you | 00:21:50 | |
| and wants me to prepare his his charges in the city of Socorro. I'm the mayor of the city of Socorro. My job is to look out for | 00:21:56 | |
| the citizens here and their and their. | 00:22:02 | |
| And their paycheck and their their wallet. So that's why I'm asking those questions. | 00:22:09 | |
| I definitely understand that, but I just. I was just. | 00:22:15 | |
| The where what I'm getting at is basically that we are subject to. | 00:22:21 | |
| The subjective interpretation of the of the City Council. | 00:22:26 | |
| Thank you for answering but but I but I will answer your question. | 00:22:30 | |
| I am absolutely sympathetic to extending your franchise agreement. | 00:22:34 | |
| On a temporary basis, from month to month. I don't have a problem with that. We will continue. | 00:22:40 | |
| Doing that as we have in the past, although in May. | 00:22:45 | |
| That's when the judge said the franchise agreement is terminated. I am, I am going to suggest to the council that we pass a | 00:22:49 | |
| resolution that we do it a month to month and and not as an ordinance but as a resolution that we will honor your franchise | 00:22:54 | |
| agreement month to month as the City Council. | 00:23:00 | |
| Looks at us rolling out. | 00:23:06 | |
| A municipal electric grid. | 00:23:09 | |
| OK. That's that's mainly what we're asking. I mean we're asking if we can come to an agreement of. | 00:23:11 | |
| You know, either I mean something. | 00:23:18 | |
| You know we can. | 00:23:22 | |
| We can protect our members and you can protect the city of Socorro in the way that you feel is is necessary. So definitely, we | 00:23:24 | |
| definitely need to turn the switch on and have the lights go on. No question, Mr. Cartridge, don't let one of them. I was just | 00:23:30 | |
| curious, like I said, if we can get the answers. I did feel like the response was vague when I read it. | 00:23:37 | |
| To what we were asking so. | 00:23:44 | |
| Umm, if we could get the answers it would be. It'd be helpful for all of us here sitting to help as things come in, make decisions | 00:23:47 | |
| that are going to. | 00:23:50 | |
| Impact everybody. So the more information that we get, the more transparent. | 00:23:55 | |
| That everybody is there. I think the better decision all of us are going to be able to make my opinion. | 00:23:59 | |
| Absolutely. And you know, I would refer you to the La Plata, La Plata Co-op, which is Durango in that area, Durango Co and their | 00:24:05 | |
| comment was they're living tri-state. | 00:24:10 | |
| And their comment was they're doing it. | 00:24:16 | |
| In the interest of their community so that they can continue. | 00:24:18 | |
| To not continue but but to stop sending money to tri-state and using that money. | 00:24:24 | |
| In that area to develop their community and I don't know if I sent that to the council they that that. | 00:24:31 | |
| That this newspaper article why Laplata was leaving tri-state. | 00:24:40 | |
| And I'd got no response from the trustees at the coop, but they gave a very concise answer. | 00:24:45 | |
| Why they're living tri-state? | 00:24:52 | |
| And you read in our recent newspaper. | 00:24:54 | |
| Article about what's happening to tri-state they lost their bond rating from A to BBBB plus or triple B plus whatever they call | 00:25:01 | |
| that and so tri-state is in trouble. | 00:25:07 | |
| They're going to have to borrow money. They're gonna increase the cost of electricity to each of the coops that are left. | 00:25:13 | |
| And that that was not me that was in the newspaper, right? But that was by. | 00:25:20 | |
| I mean, I can't comment on what's going on by or what's going on in La Plata because I'm not there. I'm part of Sakura Electric. | 00:25:26 | |
| I can't comment on what's going on going on at tri-state because I'm part of Sapporo Electric Cooperative. I'm I work for Socorro | 00:25:35 | |
| Electric I'm I don't work for tri-state. I don't work for La Plata I I only. | 00:25:41 | |
| Am here to find out what's in the best interest or to push or ask what's in the best interest of Socorro Electric Cooperative. | 00:25:48 | |
| And our members, I'm here to advocate for our members and that does include everyone of you, whether you feel like we're against | 00:25:57 | |
| you or you're against us or anything like that, we're here to try and. | 00:26:04 | |
| And and help our membership as a whole. | 00:26:11 | |
| And I don't feel that we're against you. I think we just want answers because like where I work we have to have a five year plan. | 00:26:16 | |
| When we get grants or whatever, they have to be earmarked. So I find it hard to believe that you can't. | 00:26:24 | |
| Give us an answer by because I know in the loans or the grants that you get, they have to be earmarked for for different things, | 00:26:33 | |
| right? | 00:26:37 | |
| The way the question was was phrased to us. | 00:26:43 | |
| Was what has been spent here in Socorro. | 00:26:46 | |
| But you could still take it out. I mean, because that's what we I run three different counties, so when I when I do the grant, I | 00:26:51 | |
| do the grant. So much for Valencia, so much for Torrent, so much for Socorro. So I know that you can get that information by just. | 00:27:00 | |
| Bearing down on on on what? What did you borrow? | 00:27:09 | |
| Support for the City of Socorro or what did you what did you put in that grant for the City of Socorro? | 00:27:14 | |
| OK, now I can and I that's managed. That's on the. | 00:27:21 | |
| Above my pay grade. | 00:27:27 | |
| I appreciate you coming and this is the first time we've had a. | 00:27:30 | |
| Back and forth. But I really appreciate, I mean, you coming here. I wish Joseph was here but not to get anything. | 00:27:35 | |
| But I'm just saying it's great that you're coming to the council meeting and having a discussion. It really makes a big, big | 00:27:43 | |
| difference. I can and I can tell you that we can talk about our side, you can talk about your side, we can listen to publicly | 00:27:48 | |
| listen to that. That's what we need to have, is that open discussion. | 00:27:53 | |
| Let me give you, let me give you an example. We put these two car chargers over here in the Plaza. We didn't do it, the state | 00:27:59 | |
| said. Come on, we'll do it for you. We'll give you a benefit and a gift. Well. | 00:28:04 | |
| We built about $1300 a month to the people who plug in. | 00:28:10 | |
| My electric cost is $5000 a month. | 00:28:17 | |
| A month. I looked into that person. We're losing. We're losing 3000. We're losing $3000 a month on these fuel, the electric | 00:28:21 | |
| chargers, maybe at 40 or $0.50 a kilowatt. I don't know. Ruby's here. No, no. But we're billing What? What are we building? $0.40 | 00:28:27 | |
| a kilowatt? | 00:28:33 | |
| $0.40 a kilowatt? I'm going to have to go to $1.20. | 00:28:42 | |
| A kilowatt. | 00:28:45 | |
| For these people that are plugging in just to break even from the demand charge that I'm getting from the Coop. So those kinds of | 00:28:46 | |
| things are the the cost of things and electricity are the things that are and that translates into the home electricity, it | 00:28:53 | |
| translates into business electricity. And so that's what we're asking the trustees to look at. | 00:29:00 | |
| And trying to help our community and the reason I bring up La Plata, I bring up Delta Montrose, I bring up. | 00:29:07 | |
| In Denver, what's it called? United Power. Those people are leaving tri-state and I can only say it's good to see and I'm trying | 00:29:17 | |
| to show the council. I know this is so cold. I'm trying to show the council. | 00:29:22 | |
| What's happening in these communities that they want to control their future? | 00:29:29 | |
| In buying electricity, if the coop would go and buy electricity from somebody else other than tri-state when they were given that | 00:29:34 | |
| window to do that. | 00:29:38 | |
| I think it would have benefited everybody in Kamado and Magdalena everywhere, but the trustees have not done that. | 00:29:42 | |
| Well, we have invited everyone of you here to sit down with the trustees. | 00:29:50 | |
| Myself. | 00:29:57 | |
| And just like actually sit down across from the table from one another and talk about all of these things and also let you know | 00:29:59 | |
| what's going on with tri-state. | 00:30:04 | |
| Different, different things are coming up with tri-state like they're they're. | 00:30:11 | |
| They're they're going to start moving to 40% renewables that you know co-ops can take advantage of. So I mean that's just some of | 00:30:16 | |
| the things that that we would like to actually sit down and. | 00:30:22 | |
| Have the conversation with each and everyone of you. | 00:30:28 | |
| But we. | 00:30:33 | |
| We've invited and nobody's shown up. | 00:30:35 | |
| Mr. Ocampo, first I want to echo what everybody said. Thanks for coming in. I appreciate it. And I know it's probably before you | 00:30:38 | |
| started and I won't speak for everybody here, but I did go sit down face to face and we had a good talk and there was a lot of | 00:30:45 | |
| questions back and forth and a lot of things I felt like I didn't get answered and I kind of get a little confused because. | 00:30:52 | |
| Like I know we have representation in our area on the trustee board, right, right. And so you would think that like if you have | 00:30:59 | |
| representation from different areas, different counties, those people are kind of fighting for, for their folks who voted them in | 00:31:06 | |
| and they would know, OK, I got X amount of money coming to my area to to upgrade or whatever it might be. | 00:31:13 | |
| And then so we should know like. | 00:31:20 | |
| Our representation here in the city of Socorro, I I would think that those trustees would know right away, hey, we've got 10% of | 00:31:22 | |
| this money coming in that's going to help this infrastructure, little things like that when when they're not answered. | 00:31:28 | |
| No matter what it is, it's kind of like. | 00:31:34 | |
| And it's and we really have to lookout for our folks. I absolutely understand that. But I appreciate you coming in and everything | 00:32:06 | |
| else and I mean I really do appreciate that. | 00:32:10 | |
| Especially even at the annual meeting if you want to come and we have member comments at the the annual meeting just like this. So | 00:32:18 | |
| you know Jared, I've been to I've been to member meetings and they've closed people down because they weren't on the agenda. I I | 00:32:23 | |
| know what's happened. Mutual combo. | 00:32:28 | |
| I'm sorry, one more thing I. | 00:32:34 | |
| So this is just like a question, maybe I don't understand it right, but everything I all of the back and forth. | 00:32:37 | |
| This whole franchise agreement that you guys are wanting and needing, like we all understand that people aren't gonna be left | 00:32:45 | |
| without power. People are gonna be taken care of. I understand that it's not exactly business as usual, but it seems like even | 00:32:51 | |
| what you guys have given us, I consider very short term, like a one year term, and to me like a month to month when you're talking | 00:32:56 | |
| about like like major things happening in the city. | 00:33:02 | |
| Whether it's month to month or even one year, it's very short term in my mind so. | 00:33:08 | |
| Like maybe maybe what is the motivation where you feel like you're really needing it if what the proposal from you all is, is just | 00:33:14 | |
| one year anyway, a month to month. I mean, you guys know the business, it's your business. You know, nothing's going to be erected | 00:33:20 | |
| in a month or two months or five months or six months. I mean, we're very educated people. We care about this community. Nobody up | 00:33:27 | |
| here is going to make a bad decision for the community. But just like Mike was just talking about. | 00:33:33 | |
| We need information. | 00:33:40 | |
| We need information from everywhere and so. | 00:33:42 | |
| It seems like everything is short term. So what is the big push behind getting like a short term agreement when we're already | 00:33:45 | |
| doing kind of a short term agreement? | 00:33:49 | |
| I'll have to get the answer from you or for you because. | 00:33:56 | |
| The in my mind and. | 00:34:01 | |
| From what I from what I understand being I come from continental dividing grants. I'm from grants born and raised. | 00:34:04 | |
| And I umm, I worked for Continental Divide Electric Cooperative for 4 1/2 years. So, well, I was. I actually left a month. Sigh of | 00:34:11 | |
| my fifth year anniversary. So. | 00:34:18 | |
| So. | 00:34:26 | |
| I've been in coops. I, you know, I of course, if you've been in one or if you work for one Co-op, you work for one Co-op, but from | 00:34:28 | |
| what I understand. | 00:34:33 | |
| The reason why we are going after this franchise agreement so, so hard is because we want to ensure that our members are covered. | 00:34:39 | |
| And whether it be just for a year? | 00:34:50 | |
| We understand that, you know. | 00:34:54 | |
| With supply chain issues. | 00:34:57 | |
| You know some some Transformers are. | 00:35:00 | |
| 57 weeks out. | 00:35:04 | |
| And that's on. | 00:35:06 | |
| So we we understand that you know with the supply chain issues and everything, it's going to take probably longer than a year, | 00:35:08 | |
| longer than two years so on and so forth for you guys to to get everything up and running. And we know that it's it's coming | 00:35:14 | |
| because you guys made an ordinance for it. | 00:35:20 | |
| Now we don't want to see it come, obviously, you know, I'm here, basically. | 00:35:27 | |
| Partially on on behalf of myself because it's my livelihood. | 00:35:35 | |
| You know so. | 00:35:39 | |
| I will have to get back to you on on the. | 00:35:44 | |
| The reason why we're not going for a longer. | 00:35:49 | |
| Franchise agreement we're. | 00:35:52 | |
| Part of the reason, and I can tell you right now, part of the reason is that. | 00:35:56 | |
| We just. We want to. | 00:36:00 | |
| Lock down a year so that way we can get into communication with you guys and sit down. | 00:36:03 | |
| Negotiate things. | 00:36:09 | |
| Possibly for a longer one. | 00:36:11 | |
| You're saying it's going to take a while and I think it will too. But if you look at that solar project that's been going on for | 00:36:15 | |
| about maybe six months. | 00:36:19 | |
| They put a substation in to put in lines, they put in the solar, it's done the one between and Los Unas on that side and then they | 00:36:23 | |
| put that in within six months. So I really think and you know with the with the substation, huh. | 00:36:31 | |
| Sorry, I used to work for the company. Who does this soccer company. Yeah, but I mean, they got the equipment and all that. But | 00:36:40 | |
| again. | 00:36:43 | |
| I still underline that you open up a discussion. That's great. You're doing your job, Mr. Fleming. | 00:36:48 | |
| And Jared, one thing. First of all, we appreciate you having this discussion because you were the first. | 00:36:55 | |
| Representative from the coop. | 00:37:04 | |
| That has stayed at that. | 00:37:06 | |
| For more than 8 minutes. | 00:37:10 | |
| Talking to us and trying to explain stuff. | 00:37:12 | |
| Myself, I don't know. | 00:37:17 | |
| What whether it's going to be month to month or a year? | 00:37:20 | |
| But thank you for your participation in trying to explain stuff. | 00:37:25 | |
| From your end, I know you're a rookie. so-called. | 00:37:30 | |
| Down there, but you are doing a good job for the coop. | 00:37:35 | |
| Thank you. I appreciate that. Well, you know, I mean just to give you the, I'm not going to carry this on further, but the | 00:37:38 | |
| Continental Divide is a good Co-op and actually the one thing that Continental Divide did. | 00:37:44 | |
| That this club we had trouble with for two years until TDs had to go underground and do all their their their broadband | 00:37:49 | |
| continental divide. | 00:37:54 | |
| Did work with a broadband company. | 00:37:58 | |
| That came in from Kit Carson. Pardon. We started, sorry, I don't work for them anymore. They started their own right. But you did | 00:38:01 | |
| do a broadband and they did put it on the poles. | 00:38:07 | |
| Whereas this Co-op dragged the feet with TDs for two years. | 00:38:13 | |
| Would not work with them without them pointing up to million to redo some of the polls which I that's why I want to know if you | 00:38:19 | |
| spent 44 million on any of these polls but those that continental divide was much more progressive and and and further thinking | 00:38:25 | |
| and then they went to Gallup. | 00:38:31 | |
| And they did a contract with tri-state. | 00:38:38 | |
| Because. | 00:38:42 | |
| I think Continental Divide is serving them, but that under a new contract for three and a half cents. | 00:38:43 | |
| They went out to bid for seven years with and they went out for power agreement and and so. | 00:38:48 | |
| Tri-state gave them a 3 1/2 shed. | 00:38:56 | |
| Per kilowatt where they're giving you guys seven or eight cents they get, that's what Continental divide. | 00:39:00 | |
| Is serving Gallup with that contract with tri-state. So I know it can be done. I know it's happened and I think it was in the five | 00:39:06 | |
| years that you were there that when the Continental divide in Gallup. | 00:39:11 | |
| Ordered that of the stuff that you're talking about is there for, yeah. And it's not exactly what you're saying because I can, I | 00:39:17 | |
| can speak from experience. | 00:39:22 | |
| I did all of the marketing for Red Bull broadband through Divide. I know red bolt broadband backwards and forwards, so the. | 00:39:28 | |
| I mean, I could sit here all night. | 00:39:41 | |
| That I really don't. I don't know much about because I was on the fiber side, but as far as the fiber goes. | 00:39:48 | |
| That's a. | 00:39:58 | |
| That's something that we'll have to sit down and have a comment well that's over now because TDs is boring it couldn't go on the | 00:39:59 | |
| polls because it because and you know again we're kind of this is this is this is. | 00:40:05 | |
| It's like you're you've only been, you've been here. | 00:40:11 | |
| But before what Mr. Accomplishes said, we've had these conversations with the I've been to their meetings. | 00:40:14 | |
| I've been given two or five minutes. | 00:40:21 | |
| Speak about it, about broadband, about the cost, about you know how much you're spending in Socorro and what are we benefiting | 00:40:24 | |
| from? Why don't you change over from tri-state to somebody else or at least do 50%. I've been to those meetings. | 00:40:30 | |
| Not one. | 00:40:37 | |
| Not one trustee said. | 00:40:39 | |
| And actually when one trustee did say something to me on a on a private. | 00:40:41 | |
| Text. He was banned from the executive sessions. I mean, that's how that's the history of what's going on at the coop. | 00:40:47 | |
| I just tell you that that's my story about the interaction with the coop and the trustees and the general manager. | 00:40:56 | |
| But again, come again, thank you. Thank you for really having a great conversation about this. Thank you for coming to Jerry. If | 00:41:04 | |
| you guys have questions, call me at my office. I can we can sit down and have a conversation about this. | 00:41:12 | |
| Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, John. | 00:41:20 | |
| OK. Anybody else? | 00:41:24 | |
| Yes, ma'am. | 00:41:26 | |
| Hi a bit of a shift from the last thing I'm Amy Kimball post may remember. I started coming to meetings on and off a couple years | 00:41:28 | |
| ago and the first thing I asked was if the agendas could be posted online and they have been since then which is great. I'm coming | 00:41:35 | |
| because I want to try and figure out how the City Council works and how decisions are made for Socorro and so forth. And so my | 00:41:42 | |
| question today is that that there's a consent agenda at each meeting and. | 00:41:48 | |
| I'm wondering if that is information about that is available to the public and if I was curious about the. | 00:41:56 | |
| The budget resolution items where I would find that information. | 00:42:02 | |
| Hello. Once they're approved, they're they're on that if you go to that meeting. | 00:42:07 | |
| There, there's there's. | 00:42:13 | |
| The agenda, the minutes and then all the resolutions, budget resolutions and also the other resolutions, so details about what | 00:42:15 | |
| what is in them. So it's after the meeting. | 00:42:20 | |
| Yeah, it's actually once it gets approved tonight. | 00:42:25 | |
| What's the mayor sign it? | 00:42:31 | |
| Then I scan it and I post it on to the to the meeting. OK, thanks. I appreciate. And the consent agenda is something kind of new | 00:42:34 | |
| that we started it only started about. | 00:42:38 | |
| Six months ago, a year ago, because we used to go through each one of these things and. | 00:42:43 | |
| I mean, it just kind of was. | 00:42:48 | |
| Just then there was consent everybody. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's why we put that under consent agenda shouldn't be any touchy | 00:42:51 | |
| things, you know, they're basically. Yeah. But like Polo said, it's posted. Yeah, OK. | 00:42:57 | |
| And Mr. Mayor, the council can remove items from the consent consent agenda for additional discussion. | 00:43:04 | |
| All right, Thank you. What else? Anything else? | 00:43:12 | |
| And we usually sit down and sit around here and talk about things and and and you know, for projects. | 00:43:15 | |
| We have a thing called ICIP where we list the projects that the council thinks is our top priority and I don't know if that's is | 00:43:20 | |
| that on AI was actually announced that later the state has moved up the deadline from the middle of September to the middle of | 00:43:27 | |
| July and we will start hosting those meetings at our main meetings. We'll have four meetings, 2IN May and two in June. | 00:43:33 | |
| And get it ready for a vote by resolution to be submitted in July and the public is allowed to come up and bring ideas of what | 00:43:40 | |
| they want to do on projects that want projects, big projects in the city. | 00:43:46 | |
| So things like streets to be paved, etc. | 00:43:53 | |
| We've had a big thing on speed bumps lately. We just spent about $40,000 on that, so. | 00:43:57 | |
| Things of that nature are big projects. You know our water lines, shorelines which we're doing now, big 20 million, eight, $10 | 00:44:03 | |
| million project on Spring Street. We're tearing down part of the junior high school. We've gotten money to remodel the inside of | 00:44:09 | |
| it. So those are some of the big projects that we've done so. | 00:44:14 | |
| And we'll also be advertising the ICIP meetings for May and June and we will put the notice in the utility bills. | 00:44:21 | |
| And post it on the website. | 00:44:28 | |
| Thanks Mr. Salome, Also an opportunity to for public requests from the Budget Committee. | 00:44:31 | |
| For community. | 00:44:37 | |
| Ruby, When would that? When would it be a good time? | 00:44:39 | |
| Oh. | 00:44:44 | |
| But they can still bring it up to administration, I mean. | 00:44:48 | |
| I would just like to add to that that even if you missed that, we prefer you request it now, not after the new budget is started | 00:44:52 | |
| in July. | 00:44:56 | |
| I don't have any requests. | 00:45:01 | |
| What was your first name? | 00:45:04 | |
| Amy Amy Kimball. | 00:45:05 | |
| Mr. Mayor, part of curiosity is the current ICIP. | 00:45:07 | |
| Anywhere on the website for public to see or. | 00:45:12 | |
| I don't believe so, but we can post it. Yeah, great questions. I mean, that's something that I think people need to know. | 00:45:18 | |
| Thank you. | 00:45:26 | |
| And I could also e-mail it to you or print it to you before you leave that, or print for you before you leave tonight. | 00:45:27 | |
| Anyone else? | 00:45:34 | |
| All righty, we're going to go to Mr. Giggles. Kind of withdrew the topic that he was going to discuss, so he'll come at another | 00:45:36 | |
| time. Manzanaris Ave. the Transportation Project Fund, make a motion. We approve resolution #24-04-16A. | 00:45:45 | |
| Second move seconded discussion. | 00:45:54 | |
| That's true my Mr. Mayor, just to point out that A is for a total of 1.124 million. The match is 5%, which is very low for a state | 00:45:57 | |
| funded project, which means if we get the 1.24. | 00:46:03 | |
| All our all our cost would be is 56200 and just that in both of these resolutions. | 00:46:10 | |
| The council's authorizing me to submit the application, which is due May 20. | 00:46:18 | |
| 3rd and that we have sufficient funds for the matching fund. | 00:46:23 | |
| And we have sufficient funding for operation and maintenance and you give me the authority to enter the cooperative agreement of | 00:46:29 | |
| were approved and again that's for both resolutions. | 00:46:34 | |
| And we've got a resolution for the Courthouse Rd. | 00:46:43 | |
| All in favor. | 00:46:47 | |
| Make a motion to approve resolution #24-04-16B. | 00:46:49 | |
| I second moved and seconded discussion. Mr. Manette. The resolutions are identical other than for the projects. As I said, these | 00:46:54 | |
| are for the streets around the courthouse that weren't done as Mccutchen was done the end of March. | 00:47:01 | |
| The total project request is 700,000 and our match would be 35,000 of that. | 00:47:09 | |
| On film, aye. | 00:47:15 | |
| And now we're going to go to the thing I've alluded to. We are. | 00:47:17 | |
| Working with the company. | 00:47:23 | |
| And trying to develop a solar array. | 00:47:24 | |
| And a battery energy energy storage. | 00:47:28 | |
| And we would like the Council to. | 00:47:30 | |
| Approve our relationship with them. It doesn't talk about any money. There's no. | 00:47:33 | |
| Charge for this. If they are successful in getting us a grant, they will then. | 00:47:40 | |
| Get their money from the grant, not there is no money. | 00:47:46 | |
| Expended by the city on this Mr. Again actually have some questions along those lines on six and three the cost and expenses. | 00:47:49 | |
| Where it talks about. | 00:47:58 | |
| So this is. I mean, I'm kind of confused because it talks about this is an agreement. | 00:48:00 | |
| That they're going to perform the duties. | 00:48:04 | |
| In section 1.3 the roles and responsibilities, but then it also talks about. | 00:48:07 | |
| That. | 00:48:12 | |
| Hermit that we have, the court decides within the term not to execute a contract. | 00:48:15 | |
| Where would that contract come into play? And then if we don't execute that contract, we're liable up to $250,000. | 00:48:20 | |
| For the expenses that were paid by ICAST. | 00:48:28 | |
| And that's a good question. I think we asked him that, Donald. | 00:48:31 | |
| Yes, this is a contingency B contract. So we will. It's a contract or an agreement. It's an agreement. It's not a contract, but | 00:48:35 | |
| it's set up. So they're paying if we get paid. But if they put in two years worth of work and we say, OK, we don't want to do it | 00:48:41 | |
| anymore, we're liable for up to 250,000 of whatever their incurred costs are. What would the contract be if we do not execute a | 00:48:47 | |
| contract? What would the contract, What's the contract? I I think this is the contract. It's not a legal contract. Like you said, | 00:48:53 | |
| it's a letter of agreement. | 00:48:59 | |
| But anything? | 00:49:06 | |
| We have no intention says not to execute a contract for the project development. | 00:49:07 | |
| That's after they find the funding. | 00:49:12 | |
| And then we so they find the funding, we decide we don't want it anymore, we're liable up to the expenses, up to $250,000 for the | 00:49:15 | |
| work that they put into up to that point. Yes, Sir. OK. | 00:49:19 | |
| There's no there's no match or any money that's coming out of the city, funds that's made clear to them. This is all going to be. | 00:49:24 | |
| And there's money out there at the solar projects plus the electric project too, which will be piggybacked onto this once we get | 00:49:30 | |
| with them. | 00:49:35 | |
| We have submitted they'll submit a final invoice. | 00:49:43 | |
| Within 30 days from termination or from the date that Socorro decides not to execute a final contract, what would that final | 00:49:46 | |
| contract be? | 00:49:50 | |
| I haven't seen that yet, but I can ask for it. | 00:49:56 | |
| Are you basically saying you're just concerned about being on the up to $250,000? I just want to know if this is a contract or | 00:50:00 | |
| this is just an agreement for because it's what I'm execute a final contract, I just don't know what the final contract would be. | 00:50:07 | |
| Again, I think. | 00:50:16 | |
| What it's saying is if they find funding, they expect us to sign a contract with a contractor to develop it for the project. Yes, | 00:50:17 | |
| And we need to do that within 30 days. And if they don't find the money, then we're right. Yes, that's the whole idea, Mr. Ocampo. | 00:50:24 | |
| That, that was it. If we if they do find the money and then we don't go through with the contract, then obviously grant money | 00:50:31 | |
| probably wouldn't be awarded, it would be pulled back and we wouldn't be on the hook for what they did to try to get that grant | 00:50:36 | |
| correct. No, I think we still would be no. That's my question. | 00:50:41 | |
| The city would be, yeah, this idea is that we're moving ahead with solar. | 00:50:48 | |
| Energy. | 00:50:52 | |
| For our project out there and they're going to find the money to pay for it. Just a moment. And if they don't, you would then. | 00:50:54 | |
| Not if they don't find the money to fund this. | 00:51:03 | |
| That's not city money. | 00:51:06 | |
| We're not going to do the project. | 00:51:08 | |
| But if they do find the money and they spend time and finding the money, they're saying you guys need to pay us, You can't just | 00:51:09 | |
| walk away from us. | 00:51:13 | |
| Because I thought that the city was. | 00:51:17 | |
| Wanting to get solar energy into our community, and that's just one way to do it and they're very successful. They're doing the | 00:51:20 | |
| same thing with Aztec. | 00:51:23 | |
| Mr. Mr. Mother is this time sensitive as far as. | 00:51:29 | |
| The only reason it's time sensitive now is because if we don't start applying for these grants within the next month or so, we're | 00:51:34 | |
| gonna have to wait a year to apply for them again. | 00:51:38 | |
| But just to explain the process a little bit, we find what they call a noticeable word or no, no phone notice for opportunities or | 00:51:44 | |
| something like that, and we send in a letter of intent. | 00:51:50 | |
| And then we start filling out the application. | 00:51:57 | |
| We submit the application for the grants you're talking about. Yes, Sir, if we. | 00:52:00 | |
| If we're selected for an award, they send us a letter of award and then they start working on the grant agreement. | 00:52:05 | |
| For us, both the science, so it's a lengthy process, but that also could be what they're referring to, assigning a contract, | 00:52:11 | |
| assigning an agreement, saying, yes, we want this money and we're going to go after it, we're going to finish the project. | 00:52:18 | |
| Is it putting that before the horse to think that we're doing solar before we're doing the actual? | 00:52:25 | |
| It's actually in conjunction with it. | 00:52:30 | |
| They also are working with Finley, our consultants that built the. | 00:52:33 | |
| Or design the project and so this is kind of in conjunction, this is goes back to the visual aids that we had where you they | 00:52:37 | |
| mapped out some areas that they could use for solar a few meetings ago, maybe a month or two ago. | 00:52:43 | |
| That was probably maybe a month or two ago this year and that was the area and it's close to the substation that we're proposing. | 00:52:51 | |
| But some of the chicken or the egg, I mean, we're trying to put all these together, especially to try to get in because there's | 00:52:56 | |
| money available right now for for solar and for electric projects. | 00:53:01 | |
| And so that's what and this company is very successful like I said they're doing with Aztec, they're going to I think going to do | 00:53:07 | |
| it with Bloomfield. What what does it say if the industrial leg gets goes to a vote and doesn't get passed. | 00:53:13 | |
| What would we do with the solar then? | 00:53:20 | |
| If we or would we just be out the $250,000? | 00:53:22 | |
| Well, I mean if we didn't, if it didn't pass, they're not as, I mean they may be out, but we're not going to be out 250,000 | 00:53:26 | |
| because we should be able to bring that to you in the next 2-3 months. | 00:53:31 | |
| And so if it's, if it's not passed, then. | 00:53:38 | |
| They'll say, well, you know, we spent $5000 on doing this. | 00:53:41 | |
| Or 10,000, I'm gonna say 250,000 amounted to the time that they spent. But we've got, I mean. | 00:53:46 | |
| I feel the Council had asked me to go ahead and move along with this industrial leg and find a way to, you know, to pay for it, | 00:53:52 | |
| and that's what we're trying to present to the Council. | 00:53:56 | |
| Mr. Mr. Organ thinking down down the road as well if it if it, let's just say the electricity city of the city provided. | 00:54:01 | |
| Electricity never comes to fruition. | 00:54:09 | |
| And we're building this project. | 00:54:13 | |
| Will the city be able to use? | 00:54:16 | |
| The solar power for city. | 00:54:18 | |
| Electricity. | 00:54:22 | |
| I think the coins and everything. The Co-op a year or two ago actually advertised to do a 1 Meg solar field, but they never came | 00:54:25 | |
| to fruition. But if it didn't cost us anything and we put this down and we didn't do it and the coop continued to present | 00:54:31 | |
| electricity, I think there would be more than happy to to buy it. And I think there's a there's a law that the governor is putting | 00:54:37 | |
| forward. | 00:54:42 | |
| That the solar farms. | 00:54:49 | |
| Can also be put into the grid. | 00:54:52 | |
| I think that's that's the new law I think they put in last year. | 00:54:56 | |
| But yeah, I mean that that solar. | 00:55:00 | |
| Electricity and we would be the owner of this. No, there's not going to be a third party. We're going to be the owner of this. And | 00:55:02 | |
| so, yeah, I mean we would be, we'll be able to. | 00:55:07 | |
| I have to give it away to the coop or. | 00:55:12 | |
| You know, put it into the into the grid. | 00:55:15 | |
| OK, Mr. Mayor, one last question. It talks to, it talks a lot about communication between the city and and I test. | 00:55:21 | |
| Will be in the loop as far as you know. | 00:55:28 | |
| The communicate somewhat of the communication that's going on between. | 00:55:32 | |
| With well, I mean we can give you the updates on the grant applications. | 00:55:36 | |
| And I think you know Marianne worked with I cast and I know you have there. | 00:55:43 | |
| Professionalism and their expertise is, I mean you can kind of speak to that when they do their, their, I mean they do the work | 00:55:49 | |
| and they're not going to charge you for things that they don't do. | 00:55:54 | |
| The nonprofit, Yeah, it is and and. | 00:56:01 | |
| I've met with rally before. His name is Ravi as well and he's, I mean he's really professional and and gives you what you what you | 00:56:05 | |
| pay for. | 00:56:10 | |
| What I did with the due diligence, yeah, they are Mr. Monett and Councillor Augie, what I believe the agreement is referring to as | 00:56:16 | |
| far as communication is going through the grant process. They don't want us to agree to this and just say, OK, you're on your own. | 00:56:21 | |
| You know, they're going to need to get information from us about our area and what we're trying to do and the local size of it and | 00:56:26 | |
| exactly. | 00:56:31 | |
| Don't know when you meet with them. Could it be that a counselor be present? | 00:56:37 | |
| I guess the last the last concern. So in worst case scenario we the city would have solar. | 00:56:46 | |
| Farm. Not, maybe, I don't want to say worst case scenario, but one of the scenarios that the score would own the solar a solar | 00:56:54 | |
| farm, Yeah, yeah. | 00:56:58 | |
| Best case scenario, best words equal. | 00:57:03 | |
| It would be the worst. That would be the worst case scenario because. | 00:57:07 | |
| If we didn't figure something. | 00:57:13 | |
| Paid for. | 00:57:19 | |
| Because the city we're going to go 100% for, grants make a profit. | 00:57:21 | |
| I I don't doubt and again you can doubt me, but I don't doubt that we're going to have a municipal electric. | 00:57:30 | |
| Utility. You know, I don't see the coop moving off the dime. I think I see tri-state going downhill. And that's just what's | 00:57:38 | |
| happened everywhere else. | 00:57:43 | |
| I know where Sakura Sakura. But I also look at what other communities are doing and if we don't keep up with that, we're going to | 00:57:48 | |
| be left behind that that's that's what I and we have been left behind. | 00:57:53 | |
| Mr. Mayor, sorry, I keep thinking of more stuff, but so let's say they go through all this stuff. We do still have the option. | 00:57:59 | |
| They they present everything. They they they apply for the grants. | 00:58:04 | |
| And everything. We still have the opportunity to say no, we don't want to do this. | 00:58:10 | |
| We don't want to. We don't want to move on this project and then we'd pay him back. But if we if it doesn't, if it doesn't look | 00:58:15 | |
| good and it's not going to come or anything that we can benefit from. After everything is all said and done, we have the. | 00:58:21 | |
| Ticket as to what the what the cost of Miss Chavez? Lopez. Michael, what you might want to do is make an appointment to talk to | 00:58:28 | |
| Ravi himself. | 00:58:31 | |
| And I put you on the committee, I'll put Mr. Parker's on the committee to whenever we have any discussion with them, we'll let you | 00:58:38 | |
| know. And you can do it on zoom or whatever, because they're they're in Denver, they like to do things on zoom. | 00:58:43 | |
| So which definitely involve you with a with a. | 00:58:48 | |
| I did. I picked up my packet last week on Thursday and I read through this analysis, met with Mr. Monet just asking questions | 00:58:52 | |
| about this. | 00:58:56 | |
| And that there's a lot more information just with the discussion with us right now that you know. So I. | 00:59:00 | |
| You know, I wouldn't feel comfortable voting on it right at this moment personally, just because I don't have enough of the | 00:59:06 | |
| information. | 00:59:09 | |
| To make a decision, I understand that a solar field would be great, but. | 00:59:12 | |
| If I just want to know what the heck we're going to do with it or anything, I'd like to take it to a vote. | 00:59:16 | |
| Because we're going to miss out on that cycle. | 00:59:21 | |
| Mr. Mayor, this this letter of agreement. | 00:59:25 | |
| It would have nothing tide to the the infrastructure part. If we're going to go out and get more money, try to get grants to look | 00:59:31 | |
| into that. This is only solar field, nothing tied into the. | 00:59:36 | |
| Electrical. | 00:59:43 | |
| That's why I want to get into an agreement with them, because they will also look for money for the electric grid. | 00:59:44 | |
| The front, the power grid, not the solar grid. Yeah, they look for both. They look for money for both. But this specifically, is | 00:59:49 | |
| this for solar? Yeah, Yeah. And it doesn't have anything to do with the electrical, right? | 00:59:55 | |
| Doesn't have anything to do with electrical. Yeah, but they but they they said they would also look for money for. Once we get | 01:00:01 | |
| into a agreement with them, they will also look for money for our for our project. | 01:00:07 | |
| But we would have to enter into another agreement. | 01:00:12 | |
| Correct, yes. But that would be as we develop further, you know relationship with them. | 01:00:15 | |
| I think that's what we need to do. I mean you know you have to step into it. If you're not going to step into it, that's up to you | 01:00:22 | |
| guys. But I think at this point we've got to, we've got to keep moving on with this project. If we keep delaying it, then we're | 01:00:26 | |
| just going to delay it. If you guys haven't looked at it good enough, that's I'm sorry about that, but in my opinion we have to | 01:00:31 | |
| move on with it. | 01:00:36 | |
| I don't think that's the case. I just think we've been waiting on some numbers and we still haven't seen the numbers. | 01:00:41 | |
| Nothing to do with numbers, Mr. Partridge. This has to do with an agreement that we're trying to get a grant for solar. I | 01:00:47 | |
| understand that, but it has something to do with electricity and and something to do with what we're trying to. There's a | 01:00:52 | |
| correlation between the two, I would imagine. I would hope one of my city councils would make a motion to accept this and you can | 01:00:57 | |
| vote against it. I'll make a motion to accept it. | 01:01:02 | |
| Second moved and seconded and if you wanted. | 01:01:08 | |
| Do a roll call. You can do a you do a roll call vote. We'll just do it that way. | 01:01:12 | |
| This is to accept an agreement with the. | 01:01:18 | |
| I cast or solar field. | 01:01:22 | |
| Desperate soul film, that's where. It's all of you counted Travis Lopez. Yes. | 01:01:24 | |
| Councillor Fleming Yes. | 01:01:31 | |
| Councillor Ocampo. | 01:01:34 | |
| Yes, Counselor. Ogain No. | 01:01:36 | |
| Councillor Partridge. Hello. | 01:01:40 | |
| Councillor Romero, Yes. | 01:01:42 | |
| Councillor Salomi. | 01:01:45 | |
| Passes. | 01:01:49 | |
| So and then the UH. | 01:01:51 | |
| What's What's E4? | 01:01:53 | |
| That was going to be my question, Mr. Mayor, was the. | 01:01:58 | |
| Was the motion for the resolution or for the agreement? | 01:02:02 | |
| Well, if they're going to develop it with the agreement. | 01:02:07 | |
| Right, unless you want to vote on that too. Well, the agreement contains wording that it is adopted by resolution, so if we could | 01:02:10 | |
| also approve the resolution even though we went out of order of the agenda. | 01:02:16 | |
| I'll make a motion to approve the resolution 24416 C. | 01:02:24 | |
| Seconded. | 01:02:31 | |
| All in favor. | 01:02:32 | |
| Aye Opposed. No, No. | 01:02:33 | |
| So the eyes have it. | 01:02:36 | |
| The new business, I don't know if you've seen the demolition of the junior high school. | 01:02:38 | |
| Is moving along. | 01:02:45 | |
| Where once we get that demolished then. | 01:02:48 | |
| We have. | 01:02:50 | |
| Plans to get that remodeled. I'm not sure if anybody's talked to you about it. I know people are saying, well, what's going on out | 01:02:53 | |
| there, but we're doing the demolishing ourselves. The city is. | 01:02:58 | |
| We had a problem with the scale out of the landfill, so we haven't been able to move that stuff. So the landfill has been closed | 01:03:05 | |
| today. So we'll be moving that out, cleaning it up and hauling it off. So that's where we're at on that. What's going on with the | 01:03:12 | |
| site Southwest? Do you know anything about the $100,000 grant? Have they gotten back with you as to what they plan to do? | 01:03:20 | |
| They haven't. | 01:03:28 | |
| So we need to. We need to. | 01:03:29 | |
| Yeah, we met with them. They threw some things out out there and they're supposed to come back with some drawings here pretty | 01:03:32 | |
| quick. But I thought we had a really good conversation. It was really good. We talked about getting a lot of public input once we | 01:03:37 | |
| kind of get it together. But Paula, do we need to talk to him or see where they're at? | 01:03:43 | |
| I'll give them a call tomorrow. | 01:03:49 | |
| So, OK, the CDBG project, I don't know if you know about that. On Cuba Rd. we're short $400,000. We've applied for the extra | 01:03:51 | |
| 400,000, Donald, I don't know when we're supposed to hear that on the 20th or was it April? | 01:03:58 | |
| I believe that's when the application was submitted and it's a slow process because it's a federal program, so one probably by | 01:04:07 | |
| May. | 01:04:10 | |
| OK, walkway in that area that we've accepted those roads. I don't know if you guys have been by there. I know Mr. Fleming has and | 01:04:15 | |
| it's going to get striped. | 01:04:20 | |
| Fowler is getting finished. | 01:04:26 | |
| And McCutcheon has gotten finished. So and then we're going to be trying to get again. We ran short on Manzanari's because. | 01:04:28 | |
| The cost of doing stuff has got just skyrocketed, so we're trying to get money for that. We've got some of it. | 01:04:36 | |
| Yes, Sir. That was the TPF application, a resolution that was approved earlier. | 01:04:43 | |
| And I apologize, the CDBG application was submitted on March 24th and I expect to hear by the end of May. | 01:04:49 | |
| So and and the project had a junior high project is going. Mariano's project is going. | 01:04:55 | |
| We're taking the rock. We didn't let you keep the rock, so we're moving the rock to the to the broader area. We're going to try to | 01:05:02 | |
| get a crusher to get some. | 01:05:07 | |
| Gravel or bass course out of it. So which we did before when we did the soccer fields. So that's getting on. We've got the money | 01:05:13 | |
| for the skins for the rodeo and we've got money for a sound system. But we can't work on the sound system as Mr. Fleming knows. | 01:05:21 | |
| Until we get the skin on. | 01:05:29 | |
| And so the skin has been been that that project is on its way that that money has been the other the contractors taking the money | 01:05:31 | |
| for that we still haven't worked out the heaters. | 01:05:37 | |
| That's a touchy situation with heating. That's going to be a problem. I don't know. We're going to work on that. So that that's | 01:05:44 | |
| going to be, that's going to be the next project. | 01:05:48 | |
| I guess if there's hearings, what about? | 01:05:56 | |
| Air conditioning and how would that over it? I mean, another stands in there, but like about the only thing we got is the fans, | 01:05:59 | |
| you know? Yeah. | 01:06:02 | |
| Huh. Well, no, they're they're. | 01:06:06 | |
| They're they're in trouble. They're having problems with the family. | 01:06:10 | |
| The motor is not working like it should, but we'll get that. We'll get that fixed. | 01:06:15 | |
| The I can say it now we've got Neil McCoy. | 01:06:19 | |
| Coming on July. | 01:06:26 | |
| The contract signed. | 01:06:28 | |
| So that's a big event. Hopefully everybody goes. | 01:06:30 | |
| The tickets won't be that expensive, but we would like to get 2000 people there so we can. | 01:06:33 | |
| Pay for it. This will be one big thing that we haven't ever done before is to have a. | 01:06:39 | |
| He's not a recent guy, but he's, you know, he's got pretty good he. | 01:06:43 | |
| Oh yeah, yeah. So did you see him? No. Yeah, he was at Buffalo Thunder. So we can try to get that advertised and hopefully tier | 01:06:47 | |
| sea blend people will come from all over to come and see that. | 01:06:53 | |
| They had the prom. I guess that was good. | 01:06:59 | |
| Had a good prom. | 01:07:02 | |
| What other events have you got going on there? | 01:07:08 | |
| Use sign language because I'm deaf. | 01:07:14 | |
| What are you saying? | 01:07:18 | |
| Oh, great. | 01:07:23 | |
| And that was really, really nice. Thank you girls for opening the doors and closing the doors and they're really good hosts. So | 01:07:27 | |
| thanks to we've gotten the permit now to open the gate. | 01:07:33 | |
| For our race to come off of RV's to come off of Hwy. 60. | 01:07:40 | |
| That they can go in there, they put the cattle guard in and all that. I don't know if we've had any more out there or not, but if | 01:07:46 | |
| we can get people, Steve, anybody. | 01:07:50 | |
| Extra coming in from the 60. | 01:07:54 | |
| OK. And we're going to be putting up a sign. | 01:07:58 | |
| So but we'll we'll hopefully we'll get that you had your shooting. | 01:08:00 | |
| Shooting horseback. Shooting This this weekend? So is soccer starting? | 01:08:05 | |
| OK, so I don't know if any any other questions about any projects or? | 01:08:14 | |
| That's here, Mr. Mayor, just to add about the funding for the sound system and all the other capital outlays, the additional line. | 01:08:20 | |
| 900 I can't remember the total now, but the different additional funding for Finley Gymnasium, the exit landscaping, the sound | 01:08:29 | |
| system, the matching funds for the lights at City Hill Park. And I'm going to forget the fifth one. But anyhow, I. | 01:08:37 | |
| The commercial building, yes, Eagle picture site development. We we had a meeting last week. They sent out the questionnaires. You | 01:08:45 | |
| have to fill out a questionnaire for each one. | 01:08:51 | |
| Those are due next Thursday. | 01:08:58 | |
| I met with Floyd yesterday and he helped me get through some of them. But the good news is this is all five of the projects are | 01:09:00 | |
| general fund money, so they should at least start awarding in July rather than waiting for a bond sale in October or December. So | 01:09:06 | |
| that's the good news. We should be able to move on those projects very quickly. | 01:09:13 | |
| Yeah, we got about two and a half million. | 01:09:20 | |
| Mr. Mckartridge, the Rocky Mountain National Wrestling tournament will be there May 25th. They They're starting to. | 01:09:22 | |
| They're starting to have some dialogue with us and that'll be a big one. That's that Spider-Man one. That's. | 01:09:30 | |
| Pretty big deal. | 01:09:36 | |
| Just want to say. | 01:09:39 | |
| I'm on the recreation committee and Mike does a great job. He did a great job with the flag football. I got a lot of compliments | 01:09:41 | |
| from parents and all this good stuff, but he told me today his guys can under all the mats for you. | 01:09:47 | |
| Tape them up. So I'm just saying, hey, let's see. I want to see. | 01:09:53 | |
| And then in July, we have another wrestling tournament that's done at night under the lights. | 01:09:59 | |
| Here and it's an organization that the mayor we brought in to meet with the mayor about eight years ago we brought him down and. | 01:10:07 | |
| They've been coming this a third time now, so they're obviously doing good because they're. | 01:10:17 | |
| Their business, I mean they might be a youth organization, but their business and they obviously like it because they keep coming | 01:10:21 | |
| back. So that's a good thing and we're on their schedule and they have tournaments from New Jersey to California. So and little | 01:10:26 | |
| off the clothes on the map and does it going back, yeah, it's good. | 01:10:31 | |
| Well, you know, about nine years ago, I got invited to go to Phoenix to that tournament. That's when I kind of got the bug. I | 01:10:37 | |
| said, geez, what are these people doing here? I mean, it was like there's 20,000 people in this gym. | 01:10:43 | |
| And and there was, it was like wasn't a three ring circus, it was like a 20 ring circus they got. And they're so professional that | 01:10:49 | |
| they've got the timer they've got the judges they they're putting it on. Hopefully your Wi-Fi there is gonna be all upgraded. | 01:10:55 | |
| And so, you know, it's unbelievable, unbelievable how how big and how how much, how much respect Sakura has gotten because of your | 01:11:02 | |
| program. I mean that's a that that's that's a lot of respect for them to commit to come in here. | 01:11:10 | |
| It's really they're treated well. They like it too. I mean, just the city has done. | 01:11:19 | |
| Reasonable place to have a tournament and they do a good job. What the staff does a good job. So it's there's a good relationship | 01:11:23 | |
| with the wrestling team, but the staff does a good job and the city of scored does a good job for sure. | 01:11:28 | |
| Mr. Salami. | 01:11:34 | |
| Tech Golf Course is going to be hosting the State Golf. | 01:11:36 | |
| I was listening to Mickey this morning and he was pretty excited. He says he's got some good players. He says if they all play | 01:11:48 | |
| together at the same time and do well, that's when he needs to. So that's that's a that's a big catch to get the we've been | 01:11:55 | |
| wanting to. They always have it as letter or someplace else, so it's going to be great. | 01:12:01 | |
| That's terrific. Anyone. Dan Riley, your niece? | 01:12:08 | |
| Playing golf with here and there all over the place, I heard she got us looking. The press that says she got 20 offers already | 01:12:14 | |
| from D1 School for the junior. | 01:12:17 | |
| That's what a lot of practice does. Every day, every day. | 01:12:23 | |
| Our little golf course, wonderful place. It's it's really neat to see the culmination of kids from from town, the kids from tech, | 01:12:28 | |
| the adults from town, the adults from Tech. When you go to that golf course and you tee up that golf ball or you practice, you | 01:12:35 | |
| know what? Nothing else matters but that game. And so that golf course has brought people, tech and the techies and the townies | 01:12:41 | |
| together for 60 years. | 01:12:48 | |
| Wonderful place to be and kids love it. There's kids all up and down that range. Miguel and Kristen do a wonderful job. They've | 01:12:56 | |
| taken ownership of those kids. | 01:13:01 | |
| And the parents. And he accepts them. In middle school, even some little elementary kids go up there. There's a summer youth on | 01:13:06 | |
| course program that the PGA of America is putting on up there, a bunch of kids out there playing golf. So it's really a wonderful | 01:13:13 | |
| thing. Not since the days of Mr. Fleming starting all of us kids out there. When he was a science teacher and a golf coach at the | 01:13:20 | |
| junior high, we had one of the only junior high golf teams. | 01:13:27 | |
| And behold, that golf course has been nothing but a jewel for our community and and we really need to utilize it. And I encourage | 01:13:35 | |
| all of our families to go up there and hit balls and get those kids engaged in the game. And it's just a wonderful place to be | 01:13:41 | |
| grow up. | 01:13:47 | |
| And Speaking of tech, they've got a new president, I think he started on the 15th. | 01:13:53 | |
| We said goodbye to. | 01:13:59 | |
| Doctor Lopez and Lonnie Marcus and they appreciated the plant. | 01:14:01 | |
| A car both of them called personally and so. | 01:14:06 | |
| We'll have a new president. Hopefully he'll and I know he will because and his wife support the community. I think they will. | 01:14:09 | |
| Old business. | 01:14:18 | |
| And personnel matters. | 01:14:21 | |
| We've got Christian attorney, fire recruit completed probation. Thomas Padilla, fire recruit completed probation. | 01:14:23 | |
| And we have the. | 01:14:31 | |
| OK. | 01:14:34 | |
| Personnel changes as read. Second seconded discussion All in favor aye, Mr. Mayor Mr. As we go back and just to give the council | 01:14:37 | |
| an opportunity for executive session. | 01:14:42 | |
| An opportunity to go into executive session. | 01:14:50 | |
| Miss Travis Lopez? I'm sorry. | 01:14:53 | |
| And then we've got. | 01:14:59 | |
| What's the legal matter? | 01:15:02 | |
| Oh, you're just that's part of the executive session. | 01:15:04 | |
| Oh, I just go ahead and turn it over here. I'm getting AC now. I'm sorry. | 01:15:07 | |
| I won't run again. I'm not gonna run again. | 01:15:10 | |
| I got my fingers crossed. No the business Registration. Heartful Horizon Social Care. Celeste Griego, Escondida, MX Enterprises | 01:15:15 | |
| Automotive. Anna Cooper Mechanic shop. Northstar Communications. Cody Nelson Construction. | 01:15:23 | |
| RJ Corman I made the I met those guys with that are taking up the corn and made them come and get a business. | 01:15:33 | |
| This is the this is the company that came out to clean it up. RJ Corman Railroad Services. Because you know, you know how much | 01:15:41 | |
| that multiplied the corn out? It was 36. Was it 36,000 tons? | 01:15:48 | |
| Thanks. | 01:15:57 | |
| He buried, he buried it, he buried it, he buried it. And the people, I told people to come and get a pickup and just load up. | 01:15:58 | |
| They didn't let them, correct. | 01:16:09 | |
| I know I was on my way and I they called and said you can't pick it up, I have to turn back. But the City made of over 100,000 or | 01:16:12 | |
| something like that. | 01:16:15 | |
| What? You told me 140. | 01:16:21 | |
| I mean, that's ridiculous. And the corn is worth about about 800,000. | 01:16:26 | |
| And you know, I, I, I sent him, I sent him, I sent him. A thing that I saw on Facebook from Vanetta Perry. It said that there, you | 01:16:33 | |
| know, what about spontaneous combustion? Because, you know, they have like, things explode when you have all this corn. And we had | 01:16:39 | |
| to make sure they didn't have an explosion out there has a lot of corn. | 01:16:45 | |
| And then those, did you see the cars, I mean? | 01:16:52 | |
| And you know, you see these black cylindrical cars that go by. | 01:16:56 | |
| And you worry that something like that, You know, what was it? Palestine. OH, or something horrible earlier? | 01:17:00 | |
| Anyway, Spanish rustic furniture. Well, this is a transient vendor. He has approval locations only. This is furniture. So that's | 01:17:06 | |
| it. | 01:17:11 | |
| Anybody. Mr. business registrations, we've been seconded discussion all in favor. | 01:17:19 | |
| May 14th My God. | 01:17:27 | |
| Is that the first meeting is May 14th. Next meeting we're going to have a lot of people out of town that day. So we're requesting | 01:17:31 | |
| that the meeting be moved to May 14th and we're also requesting for our finance department that does. | 01:17:37 | |
| Second meeting be moved to the last Tuesday of May so we have more time to get the preliminary budget submitted. Well then make | 01:17:44 | |
| sure that Ed Reyes comes and gives us a gives us a demonstration. I mean, not demonstration but a point and he can do it if he | 01:17:50 | |
| wants to do it on Zoom. But what he gave us last Thursday, if he's got things buttoned up maybe I think the council wants to hear | 01:17:55 | |
| those numbers. | 01:18:00 | |
| No, Well. | 01:18:08 | |
| Well, there's one on the 14th, one on the 20th. Well, given the option, if you can do it on the 14th, fine. If not, then do it on | 01:18:09 | |
| the 20th. But I think they want to hear it in May. | 01:18:14 | |
| And the meeting on the 14th or is that we're moving the meeting from the 15th to the 14th or? | 01:18:21 | |
| No, the 14th of May 7th. It should have been on the 7th. | 01:18:26 | |
| From the OK and the 21st to the 28th, is you think you have information about the loan by any chance? | 01:18:29 | |
| Did Ryan? | 01:18:39 | |
| You know one of our local guys, Ryan Olgin is working at the New Mexico Finance and so. | 01:18:43 | |
| Hopefully we'll get some information from him. | 01:18:49 | |
| So and then what I'd like to see, like I think they're wanting to see something. | 01:18:52 | |
| So, OK. All right. Thank you. We're adjourned. | 01:18:57 |
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| Here Councillor Travis Lopez, Councillor Dean. | 00:00:00 | |
| Councillor Fleming. | 00:00:06 | |
| Councillor Ocampo. | 00:00:07 | |
| Counselor again here. | 00:00:09 | |
| Councillor Partridge Council, Romero. | 00:00:11 | |
| He is on the way and he is probably passing Lematar by now. | 00:00:14 | |
| Counselor Salome. | 00:00:19 | |
| We do have a. | 00:00:21 | |
| All right. | 00:00:23 | |
| Certifying of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands. | 00:00:28 | |
| One nation under God indivisible, at the beginning of justice for all. | 00:00:34 | |
| Mr. Fleming, A motion to approve the agenda as revised. | 00:00:44 | |
| Test agenda. | 00:00:52 | |
| Accept the consent agenda. | 00:00:55 | |
| All in favor, aye. | 00:00:58 | |
| Post and. | 00:01:01 | |
| Consideration. Well, that's all under consent agenda, right? I don't know. Right to #4. | 00:01:04 | |
| Yeah. | 00:01:11 | |
| OK, Connor. | 00:01:13 | |
| And mom. | 00:01:15 | |
| Dad, everybody's there. | 00:01:17 | |
| Always come bearing gifts. I always like that when they make a presentation. | 00:01:21 | |
| Wanted to come to thank you guys for letting us host the 5K at the Plaza. | 00:01:30 | |
| Let's and and sponsoring. | 00:01:42 | |
| And come on, tell us what you did. | 00:01:46 | |
| How many people were there and what the times were? | 00:01:49 | |
| It was about 200 people. | 00:01:53 | |
| About $4000. | 00:01:58 | |
| Raised we we raising money with 65 doses. | 00:02:02 | |
| Don't find a cue. | 00:02:06 | |
| Yeah. How many years have you been doing this now? | 00:02:08 | |
| Technically 8 technically 8 technically. | 00:02:11 | |
| Yeah. | 00:02:16 | |
| One year was in Covad, so it was virtual so. | 00:02:18 | |
| Well, you did a fantastic job. Yes, fantastic job and carrying it through. | 00:02:22 | |
| So how old are you and how tall are you? | 00:02:28 | |
| 14 about two and 15 I don't know how tall is you? See you. You like getting taller and taller your grandpa's. You don't need to | 00:02:32 | |
| use that step anymore. That Gordy built for you. | 00:02:37 | |
| So that's great. | 00:02:43 | |
| But congratulations for a terrific. | 00:02:45 | |
| Annual event. | 00:02:48 | |
| And you've got T-shirts for us. All right, There's some more over there. We can pass them around. | 00:02:50 | |
| Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. | 00:02:55 | |
| Perfect. | 00:03:02 | |
| Any other comments that you want to make? | 00:03:05 | |
| Great. How's your swim team doing? | 00:03:09 | |
| Yeah, what's what's happening with that? | 00:03:14 | |
| Either one. | 00:03:17 | |
| Well, and we're we're going to get the, we're going to get the summer swimming going. | 00:03:24 | |
| Have lifeguards. We're going to have all that get stuff ready to go. Great. Terrific. Yes, Sir. | 00:03:33 | |
| I'd like to speak my name. My name is. | 00:03:39 | |
| And I would like to say I was wondering about Park Street. | 00:03:42 | |
| If you guys, you know, I know that was WPA. That was 1937. Whatever. | 00:03:46 | |
| Is there any asbestos related issues with that? | 00:03:54 | |
| But well, because it does it like every time I walk down Park Street, there's dust growing everywhere. | 00:04:00 | |
| Are you talking about, I'm worried about are you talking about the our demolition? | 00:04:06 | |
| Your demolition across from the. | 00:04:12 | |
| You're you're absolutely right about asking about that, but the asbestos was already remediated into that from that building. | 00:04:14 | |
| But they can blow the dust out into the street, but there's no asbestos in there. | 00:04:23 | |
| There's no toxic or hazardous, yeah. | 00:04:27 | |
| No, no, no. There was asbestos, but it's been remediated. | 00:04:31 | |
| It's been taken out. | 00:04:35 | |
| Yes, Sir, we have to. I don't have any health effects on that from the dust. | 00:04:38 | |
| And we're trying to water it down, But yes, not from the headless. There's no hazardous material because we have to do that. We | 00:04:43 | |
| have to get that evaluated by a special. | 00:04:47 | |
| We did. We spent almost 100. We spent $100,000 in removing. | 00:04:53 | |
| Yes Sir, it was in the IT was in the tile on the floor. | 00:04:59 | |
| And and there was, yeah, you're absolutely right about bringing that up. But it was taken care of. It was out, taken out. | 00:05:02 | |
| Before we demolish. | 00:05:09 | |
| I had your police officers took care of some business about, oh, it was seven months ago. | 00:05:13 | |
| And four months ago I went to your. | 00:05:21 | |
| Here tonight. | 00:05:27 | |
| Was it Greenwood? | 00:05:28 | |
| Back in Greenwood and I went to him and that was three weeks after it happened and and I had an issue and and he said he'd take | 00:05:30 | |
| care of it. | 00:05:34 | |
| But nothing has ever been taken care of. | 00:05:40 | |
| So does your Police Department take care of this stuff or? | 00:05:43 | |
| You just blow it up. | 00:05:47 | |
| Well, let me I'm going to look into that. I didn't know. I'm not sure exactly the incident, but I will ask. He's the assistant | 00:05:49 | |
| police chief Greenwood course music. | 00:05:53 | |
| But, but, but I went to him directly because afterwards he said, Oh yeah, I'll take care of it. And then he didn't do anything. | 00:05:58 | |
| And I know they didn't investigate it. | 00:06:06 | |
| I went, I went there. | 00:06:09 | |
| We're ahead, the incident, And I asked him, they took care of the city. Did they come in and investigate? They didn't investigate. | 00:06:12 | |
| Could you could you tell me your last name? | 00:06:16 | |
| Heinz Hein HIN Yes, yes. I'll have an answer for you tomorrow. I don't. He should have been here. The son is playing baseball. I | 00:06:21 | |
| thought he was going to be here, so. | 00:06:26 | |
| That's what this is for. He was going to be here, but his son had a baseball game and he's at the baseball game. But. | 00:06:34 | |
| I will get that answer for you first thing tomorrow morning. Yeah, but he even said, you know, you got a battery, it charged | 00:06:42 | |
| against you. | 00:06:45 | |
| And I was looking, you know, I'm just thinking, well, I wasn't expecting. I just wanted to some charge against this, you know, | 00:06:48 | |
| even a young kid. And he beat me up because I'm an older dude. I. | 00:06:54 | |
| I am absolutely sympathetic to what you're saying. People shouldn't say I'll take care of it and not get back with you, OK? I | 00:07:01 | |
| agree with you and I'll have you tomorrow. | 00:07:06 | |
| OK. And will you, will you give Polo your telephone number? And I won't make it public, but if you could give him a phone number | 00:07:10 | |
| so I can call you. I'll be there. OK. Thank you. Thank you for coming. | 00:07:15 | |
| What else? What about? | 00:07:24 | |
| Good evening, Mayor Basker, City Council members. | 00:07:30 | |
| Want to take this opportunity to invite all Sapporo Electric members? That includes everyone of you. | 00:07:34 | |
| To our annual meeting on this Saturday, April 20th. Registration starts from 1:00 to 3:00. | 00:07:42 | |
| We are giving away. | 00:07:50 | |
| A $25.00 bill credit if you do come and register. So that's something that people. | 00:07:53 | |
| That'll come everybody who's a member. | 00:08:00 | |
| True. So if they're a member and they have an account, they will get a $25 real. | 00:08:03 | |
| Registration, like I said, is from 1:00 to 3:00 PM at New Mexico Tech Macy's Center. | 00:08:10 | |
| The program in the meeting will follow right after that. | 00:08:17 | |
| The second thing I would like to can I ask you about the meeting? Will you post the agenda on your website? It's already posted on | 00:08:21 | |
| the website. | 00:08:25 | |
| It's also posted on our door. | 00:08:31 | |
| And great. | 00:08:36 | |
| I'd also like to to follow up on the cooperatives request for a franchise ordinance. | 00:08:42 | |
| We've asked that the ordinance be placed on the agenda several times. | 00:08:48 | |
| We received an explanation on how the process works when requesting an ordinance from Mr. Pollock Panetta. | 00:08:51 | |
| So I asked that the process be started and I'm here tonight to follow up on the latest updates on the cooperatives request. | 00:09:01 | |
| This is this is a public. | 00:09:12 | |
| Comment time. | 00:09:15 | |
| I have seen your request, I've seen Mr. Panetta's response to you. | 00:09:18 | |
| And I'm still waiting for a complete answers. | 00:09:23 | |
| To the questions that I sent specifically on the money that you have borrowed as to how much that was spent in the City of | 00:09:27 | |
| Socorro, I have not received an answer to that and that's why I'm not recommending to the council that we move ahead with any | 00:09:33 | |
| ordinance now, if you so as administratively as mayor. | 00:09:39 | |
| I'm not going to put it on the agenda. If one of the city councilors wants to do that at a future meeting, I'm more than happy to | 00:09:45 | |
| accommodate them. But I am at this point, not interested in. | 00:09:51 | |
| Carrying on any further? | 00:09:57 | |
| Conversation when the coop until they answer my questions that I sent them. | 00:10:02 | |
| Two months ago. OK. Is that Mister Anaya? Chairman. I'm sorry. Sorry, I don't mean to. Is that the only question that you're | 00:10:08 | |
| looking to be? | 00:10:13 | |
| Answered Umm. | 00:10:18 | |
| And no, I think, I think there's there's ones. | 00:10:19 | |
| You have several years ago you did a GPS program on all your polls and and and I would like I would I wanted to see how many of | 00:10:23 | |
| those polls are on how much of our property and you said you couldn't answer how much of our property that. | 00:10:31 | |
| Using, but at least you tell me. | 00:10:39 | |
| You're where your poles are, and then I can deduce how much property that you're, you know, using as a as a franchise, but at this | 00:10:43 | |
| point. | 00:10:48 | |
| And I was going to go further as to where we're at on our. | 00:10:53 | |
| Industrial park leg We're out. We're there. We've already gotten a price. | 00:10:57 | |
| We've already got a business. | 00:11:02 | |
| Pro forma and right now we're looking for financing and just to let the council know that the the amount is about 15,000,000 and | 00:11:07 | |
| that includes A substation that would serve the city. | 00:11:12 | |
| And it includes the cost of electricity at $0.05 a kilowatt. | 00:11:18 | |
| Plus the willing charge. | 00:11:24 | |
| From tri-state and a Wheeling charge from P&M. | 00:11:25 | |
| Being charged from Tri states twice as much as the one from PNM, but that makes the amount of what it costs to get that | 00:11:30 | |
| electricity about $0.07 a kilowatt. | 00:11:34 | |
| And the amount of energy for that leg is about two and a half million. It generates about four and a half $1,000,000 in revenue if | 00:11:40 | |
| we borrow the money at 8, 1/2%. | 00:11:45 | |
| We to keep the rates at the same level we are. | 00:11:51 | |
| Where we would be in debt for about 500,000. | 00:11:57 | |
| If we can get it at 3%. | 00:12:02 | |
| We would be ahead. We would be making money. So that's and I and I I think Ed Reyes. | 00:12:04 | |
| Has a performer tradition as a PDF on that. | 00:12:12 | |
| Not completed yet, no. | 00:12:16 | |
| So this maybe is gonna go further into some of those, OK. But this is just an overall view that I'm telling you. And so we've | 00:12:18 | |
| already moved forward with the industrial leg and we are in the process also and today we're gonna be having the council. | 00:12:25 | |
| Either approve or not approve a relationship with a company called Icasa who is going to get us a grant for solar. | 00:12:35 | |
| Which is, which will be put out there. This will be part of the system and also will help us get money. There's monies available | 00:12:43 | |
| for electric grids and so they're going to help us with that also. And I think Marianne Travis Lopez is familiar with the people | 00:12:50 | |
| that I, I, I cast and and they're the ones that we're going to be dealing with. So we're there. | 00:12:57 | |
| At getting our industrial. | 00:13:05 | |
| Corridor electric production on getting going. It's not going to happen overnight and you will probably get an extension. | 00:13:09 | |
| For month to month of your franchise, there's no question that you will, but we're not administratively, I'm not willing. | 00:13:18 | |
| To look at another ordinance. | 00:13:27 | |
| I don't, I don't mind doing a resolution that states that we're going to be continuing our franchise with Socorro electric coop | 00:13:31 | |
| month to month after May. | 00:13:35 | |
| I don't have a problem with that and as we. | 00:13:40 | |
| Roll out our electric grid. | 00:13:43 | |
| That will mean that the franchise. | 00:13:46 | |
| In that leg. | 00:13:49 | |
| In my opinion, would be void and then we will keep on the. | 00:13:51 | |
| Movement of the rest of the electric utility through the city. | 00:13:56 | |
| Is the stuff that you're you're talking about the 15,000,000 and all of that, is that open to public? | 00:13:59 | |
| Not yet, but it will be. Yeah, absolutely. But right now, as I mentioned address and and you know, I know you have an IPRA | 00:14:06 | |
| request. | 00:14:10 | |
| For the city and that will be made available to you once we sign the contract. We're still in negotiations and that comes under. | 00:14:16 | |
| The purview of of. | 00:14:24 | |
| Kind of objective, but we never go into executive session. I just tell people what we're doing, but. | 00:14:28 | |
| That really comes under under business negotiation. | 00:14:33 | |
| And so I can't. | 00:14:37 | |
| I can't. | 00:14:39 | |
| Public and available to everybody until I get that written up from our finance advisor. | 00:14:41 | |
| But it will be, it will be made public, Mr. Ology. So are we going to see all these numbers and not everything before we before | 00:14:46 | |
| the contract signed or is it actually going to be, are we going to get the numbers with the contract and have to decide then? No, | 00:14:51 | |
| no, you'll get the numbers first. | 00:14:56 | |
| So the numbers that numbers are out there the only. | 00:15:01 | |
| So the ones that were that you say you're gonna have by the end of last year and then at the end of February I believe? | 00:15:05 | |
| That we still haven't gotten yet. We're going to get those before. | 00:15:10 | |
| Well, Ed said he'd give us a date. He gave. He gave us a presentation. Councillor Dean was at it. He gave us a presentation. | 00:15:14 | |
| Last Thursday. | 00:15:22 | |
| And he's just going to firm up the numbers now. Yeah, he he needed to go back in and look at some other numbers because we. | 00:15:25 | |
| Exact. We don't want roundabout numbers. | 00:15:33 | |
| Before you know what time to absorb all that, yes, absolutely. | 00:15:37 | |
| And probably have a chance to talk to Co-op about it so that's yeah absolutely a lot of delay was was getting it from Finley | 00:15:39 | |
| because of the. | 00:15:43 | |
| Just the cost and the wait time and they finally firm that up and then once I got to to head race or or financial person. | 00:15:49 | |
| And then he started exorbitant. So he gave us kind of a preliminary, but he still it's it's not complete. | 00:15:59 | |
| But Ruby has a call into the New Mexico Finance Authority. | 00:16:05 | |
| And to see what kind of interest rates are available. The interest rates that I was telling you where we would be losing 500,000 | 00:16:10 | |
| is actually would be a loan from Guzman at 8 1/2% and we're not we're not we would not propose that to the council, that's too | 00:16:16 | |
| high. We can get better rates than that. But once we get that, once we get the and I'm just giving an overview and I will give you | 00:16:21 | |
| that to you. I'm hoping by the next City Council meeting we'll have it in in paper on a on A and I can have him maybe do a | 00:16:27 | |
| presentation to the council. | 00:16:33 | |
| Paul asked him to see if he could be available to do a presentation of the council. | 00:16:41 | |
| On the, you know, it's not the next meeting, the new meeting after, but we definitely need to get that. | 00:16:46 | |
| For a voter discussion, is it is it going to be for a voter or just discussion? | 00:16:53 | |
| Discussion and information? Yeah. No. No. Not a vote No. | 00:16:59 | |
| Mr. Mayor, the questions that Jared was asking about, did we clarify that what we wanted them to answer for us? I mean I I've | 00:17:05 | |
| clarified it in the letter that I sent them and the reply I got was so. | 00:17:11 | |
| Small that that wasn't really anything we could digest and I could talk to the to the council about and as I said you, you know. | 00:17:20 | |
| We wanted some information. That's a big one. That's the big one out of the millions of dollars that you are in debt. | 00:17:29 | |
| Where did you spend that money? | 00:17:38 | |
| And I and I don't understand why you wouldn't be able to give that to us. Because anytime you borrow money, you have to tell them | 00:17:40 | |
| where you're gonna spend it before you get it. That's not necessarily the way that it works in the Co-op world. It's disseminated | 00:17:45 | |
| across our whole grid and our whole system and our whole. | 00:17:51 | |
| The way that we work as a whole, so the. | 00:17:57 | |
| The questions that you're that you're asking are specific to what we have here in the city of Socorro. | 00:18:01 | |
| That's not necessarily how it works with us because it. | 00:18:09 | |
| It is spread over the whole. | 00:18:12 | |
| The whole Is it possible to get the answers? Can you get the answer? | 00:18:16 | |
| Well, I mean. | 00:18:22 | |
| It's a. It's a very very complicated. | 00:18:24 | |
| And you know, another question that I have is Mr. Panetta was a manager. When? When, when you, when you? | 00:18:28 | |
| Go out for for a loan. Don't you have to include your four year plan that just that? | 00:18:36 | |
| Actually tells USDA where where these projects are going to happen. Yes, but. | 00:18:41 | |
| I understand that it's a big area. | 00:18:48 | |
| But, but they're in that plan. It says, OK, this is in this area, this isn't. I can see if you're replacing poles and tomorrow | 00:18:50 | |
| you're going to say well in Kettering County or you're going to replace poles. So I'm sure you could break that down a little bit. | 00:18:58 | |
| Right, but it's what was asked of us. | 00:19:08 | |
| Is what was spent in the city of Socorro. | 00:19:12 | |
| And it's either whether or not we need to get down to the minutiae. | 00:19:16 | |
| Or whether we just give you an overall. And that leads me to my next question. Is the Franchise ordinance conditional on the | 00:19:20 | |
| subjective interpretation of our responses? | 00:19:25 | |
| I'm sorry, say that again. Is the Franchise Ordinance conditional on your subjective interpretation of our responses? | 00:19:32 | |
| That's what I implied when I sent that letter. | 00:19:42 | |
| So it is subjective. | 00:19:44 | |
| It's your interpretation. | 00:19:46 | |
| My my support of extending the franchise agreement with a Co-op. | 00:19:48 | |
| Is contingent upon answering those questions because the question that I have, what's the benefit for the City of Socorro? | 00:19:56 | |
| Of the franchise agreement and the continual sale of electricity that the city of Socorro is footing in the bill for and not | 00:20:05 | |
| getting the benefit of the loan payments that you're making for. | 00:20:11 | |
| Work being done in the whole system. | 00:20:18 | |
| That was one of the reasons I asked that question. | 00:20:21 | |
| Because if somebody asks me how much money Ravi have you spent on Chaparral Rd. I can ask Ruby and Donald to go look it up and we | 00:20:25 | |
| I can tell you exactly how much money we borrowed the sewer project there. I can tell you how much money we're going to borrow to | 00:20:30 | |
| do the sewer project on Spring Street. I don't say that. The whole city, I can't find how much because when I borrow that money | 00:20:35 | |
| from USDA. | 00:20:41 | |
| I have to give them an engineering report on the area that I'm going to do that improvement on, and I'm not, I'm not sure that | 00:20:47 | |
| your answer is. | 00:20:51 | |
| Truthful and saying, well, we don't know where we spent the money. Well, it's like Polo said, you have to specifically tell USDA | 00:20:57 | |
| or the Co bank where you have their biggest loans. This is how we're going to spend the money and this is where we're going to | 00:21:02 | |
| spend. | 00:21:07 | |
| I don't know why you can't. | 00:21:14 | |
| Share that. | 00:21:16 | |
| I will get with. | 00:21:18 | |
| With my management team and see what what we can come up with and and maybe possibly. | 00:21:19 | |
| Get down to the. | 00:21:26 | |
| Like I said, the minutiae of everything and see if we can't get you an answer for that. | 00:21:28 | |
| In my mind is not minutia, it's it's, it's what. | 00:21:33 | |
| What benefit is the City of Socorro? | 00:21:36 | |
| Getting from the coop. | 00:21:39 | |
| As far as upgrading the system. | 00:21:42 | |
| With the loans that you're that the city and all the people that use the city services for electricity are paying to you right | 00:21:44 | |
| now, and they're paying it in tomato. Are they paying in Magdalena? Evidently the mayor from Magdalena is very sympathetic to you | 00:21:50 | |
| and wants me to prepare his his charges in the city of Socorro. I'm the mayor of the city of Socorro. My job is to look out for | 00:21:56 | |
| the citizens here and their and their. | 00:22:02 | |
| And their paycheck and their their wallet. So that's why I'm asking those questions. | 00:22:09 | |
| I definitely understand that, but I just. I was just. | 00:22:15 | |
| The where what I'm getting at is basically that we are subject to. | 00:22:21 | |
| The subjective interpretation of the of the City Council. | 00:22:26 | |
| Thank you for answering but but I but I will answer your question. | 00:22:30 | |
| I am absolutely sympathetic to extending your franchise agreement. | 00:22:34 | |
| On a temporary basis, from month to month. I don't have a problem with that. We will continue. | 00:22:40 | |
| Doing that as we have in the past, although in May. | 00:22:45 | |
| That's when the judge said the franchise agreement is terminated. I am, I am going to suggest to the council that we pass a | 00:22:49 | |
| resolution that we do it a month to month and and not as an ordinance but as a resolution that we will honor your franchise | 00:22:54 | |
| agreement month to month as the City Council. | 00:23:00 | |
| Looks at us rolling out. | 00:23:06 | |
| A municipal electric grid. | 00:23:09 | |
| OK. That's that's mainly what we're asking. I mean we're asking if we can come to an agreement of. | 00:23:11 | |
| You know, either I mean something. | 00:23:18 | |
| You know we can. | 00:23:22 | |
| We can protect our members and you can protect the city of Socorro in the way that you feel is is necessary. So definitely, we | 00:23:24 | |
| definitely need to turn the switch on and have the lights go on. No question, Mr. Cartridge, don't let one of them. I was just | 00:23:30 | |
| curious, like I said, if we can get the answers. I did feel like the response was vague when I read it. | 00:23:37 | |
| To what we were asking so. | 00:23:44 | |
| Umm, if we could get the answers it would be. It'd be helpful for all of us here sitting to help as things come in, make decisions | 00:23:47 | |
| that are going to. | 00:23:50 | |
| Impact everybody. So the more information that we get, the more transparent. | 00:23:55 | |
| That everybody is there. I think the better decision all of us are going to be able to make my opinion. | 00:23:59 | |
| Absolutely. And you know, I would refer you to the La Plata, La Plata Co-op, which is Durango in that area, Durango Co and their | 00:24:05 | |
| comment was they're living tri-state. | 00:24:10 | |
| And their comment was they're doing it. | 00:24:16 | |
| In the interest of their community so that they can continue. | 00:24:18 | |
| To not continue but but to stop sending money to tri-state and using that money. | 00:24:24 | |
| In that area to develop their community and I don't know if I sent that to the council they that that. | 00:24:31 | |
| That this newspaper article why Laplata was leaving tri-state. | 00:24:40 | |
| And I'd got no response from the trustees at the coop, but they gave a very concise answer. | 00:24:45 | |
| Why they're living tri-state? | 00:24:52 | |
| And you read in our recent newspaper. | 00:24:54 | |
| Article about what's happening to tri-state they lost their bond rating from A to BBBB plus or triple B plus whatever they call | 00:25:01 | |
| that and so tri-state is in trouble. | 00:25:07 | |
| They're going to have to borrow money. They're gonna increase the cost of electricity to each of the coops that are left. | 00:25:13 | |
| And that that was not me that was in the newspaper, right? But that was by. | 00:25:20 | |
| I mean, I can't comment on what's going on by or what's going on in La Plata because I'm not there. I'm part of Sakura Electric. | 00:25:26 | |
| I can't comment on what's going on going on at tri-state because I'm part of Sapporo Electric Cooperative. I'm I work for Socorro | 00:25:35 | |
| Electric I'm I don't work for tri-state. I don't work for La Plata I I only. | 00:25:41 | |
| Am here to find out what's in the best interest or to push or ask what's in the best interest of Socorro Electric Cooperative. | 00:25:48 | |
| And our members, I'm here to advocate for our members and that does include everyone of you, whether you feel like we're against | 00:25:57 | |
| you or you're against us or anything like that, we're here to try and. | 00:26:04 | |
| And and help our membership as a whole. | 00:26:11 | |
| And I don't feel that we're against you. I think we just want answers because like where I work we have to have a five year plan. | 00:26:16 | |
| When we get grants or whatever, they have to be earmarked. So I find it hard to believe that you can't. | 00:26:24 | |
| Give us an answer by because I know in the loans or the grants that you get, they have to be earmarked for for different things, | 00:26:33 | |
| right? | 00:26:37 | |
| The way the question was was phrased to us. | 00:26:43 | |
| Was what has been spent here in Socorro. | 00:26:46 | |
| But you could still take it out. I mean, because that's what we I run three different counties, so when I when I do the grant, I | 00:26:51 | |
| do the grant. So much for Valencia, so much for Torrent, so much for Socorro. So I know that you can get that information by just. | 00:27:00 | |
| Bearing down on on on what? What did you borrow? | 00:27:09 | |
| Support for the City of Socorro or what did you what did you put in that grant for the City of Socorro? | 00:27:14 | |
| OK, now I can and I that's managed. That's on the. | 00:27:21 | |
| Above my pay grade. | 00:27:27 | |
| I appreciate you coming and this is the first time we've had a. | 00:27:30 | |
| Back and forth. But I really appreciate, I mean, you coming here. I wish Joseph was here but not to get anything. | 00:27:35 | |
| But I'm just saying it's great that you're coming to the council meeting and having a discussion. It really makes a big, big | 00:27:43 | |
| difference. I can and I can tell you that we can talk about our side, you can talk about your side, we can listen to publicly | 00:27:48 | |
| listen to that. That's what we need to have, is that open discussion. | 00:27:53 | |
| Let me give you, let me give you an example. We put these two car chargers over here in the Plaza. We didn't do it, the state | 00:27:59 | |
| said. Come on, we'll do it for you. We'll give you a benefit and a gift. Well. | 00:28:04 | |
| We built about $1300 a month to the people who plug in. | 00:28:10 | |
| My electric cost is $5000 a month. | 00:28:17 | |
| A month. I looked into that person. We're losing. We're losing 3000. We're losing $3000 a month on these fuel, the electric | 00:28:21 | |
| chargers, maybe at 40 or $0.50 a kilowatt. I don't know. Ruby's here. No, no. But we're billing What? What are we building? $0.40 | 00:28:27 | |
| a kilowatt? | 00:28:33 | |
| $0.40 a kilowatt? I'm going to have to go to $1.20. | 00:28:42 | |
| A kilowatt. | 00:28:45 | |
| For these people that are plugging in just to break even from the demand charge that I'm getting from the Coop. So those kinds of | 00:28:46 | |
| things are the the cost of things and electricity are the things that are and that translates into the home electricity, it | 00:28:53 | |
| translates into business electricity. And so that's what we're asking the trustees to look at. | 00:29:00 | |
| And trying to help our community and the reason I bring up La Plata, I bring up Delta Montrose, I bring up. | 00:29:07 | |
| In Denver, what's it called? United Power. Those people are leaving tri-state and I can only say it's good to see and I'm trying | 00:29:17 | |
| to show the council. I know this is so cold. I'm trying to show the council. | 00:29:22 | |
| What's happening in these communities that they want to control their future? | 00:29:29 | |
| In buying electricity, if the coop would go and buy electricity from somebody else other than tri-state when they were given that | 00:29:34 | |
| window to do that. | 00:29:38 | |
| I think it would have benefited everybody in Kamado and Magdalena everywhere, but the trustees have not done that. | 00:29:42 | |
| Well, we have invited everyone of you here to sit down with the trustees. | 00:29:50 | |
| Myself. | 00:29:57 | |
| And just like actually sit down across from the table from one another and talk about all of these things and also let you know | 00:29:59 | |
| what's going on with tri-state. | 00:30:04 | |
| Different, different things are coming up with tri-state like they're they're. | 00:30:11 | |
| They're they're going to start moving to 40% renewables that you know co-ops can take advantage of. So I mean that's just some of | 00:30:16 | |
| the things that that we would like to actually sit down and. | 00:30:22 | |
| Have the conversation with each and everyone of you. | 00:30:28 | |
| But we. | 00:30:33 | |
| We've invited and nobody's shown up. | 00:30:35 | |
| Mr. Ocampo, first I want to echo what everybody said. Thanks for coming in. I appreciate it. And I know it's probably before you | 00:30:38 | |
| started and I won't speak for everybody here, but I did go sit down face to face and we had a good talk and there was a lot of | 00:30:45 | |
| questions back and forth and a lot of things I felt like I didn't get answered and I kind of get a little confused because. | 00:30:52 | |
| Like I know we have representation in our area on the trustee board, right, right. And so you would think that like if you have | 00:30:59 | |
| representation from different areas, different counties, those people are kind of fighting for, for their folks who voted them in | 00:31:06 | |
| and they would know, OK, I got X amount of money coming to my area to to upgrade or whatever it might be. | 00:31:13 | |
| And then so we should know like. | 00:31:20 | |
| Our representation here in the city of Socorro, I I would think that those trustees would know right away, hey, we've got 10% of | 00:31:22 | |
| this money coming in that's going to help this infrastructure, little things like that when when they're not answered. | 00:31:28 | |
| No matter what it is, it's kind of like. | 00:31:34 | |
| And it's and we really have to lookout for our folks. I absolutely understand that. But I appreciate you coming in and everything | 00:32:06 | |
| else and I mean I really do appreciate that. | 00:32:10 | |
| Especially even at the annual meeting if you want to come and we have member comments at the the annual meeting just like this. So | 00:32:18 | |
| you know Jared, I've been to I've been to member meetings and they've closed people down because they weren't on the agenda. I I | 00:32:23 | |
| know what's happened. Mutual combo. | 00:32:28 | |
| I'm sorry, one more thing I. | 00:32:34 | |
| So this is just like a question, maybe I don't understand it right, but everything I all of the back and forth. | 00:32:37 | |
| This whole franchise agreement that you guys are wanting and needing, like we all understand that people aren't gonna be left | 00:32:45 | |
| without power. People are gonna be taken care of. I understand that it's not exactly business as usual, but it seems like even | 00:32:51 | |
| what you guys have given us, I consider very short term, like a one year term, and to me like a month to month when you're talking | 00:32:56 | |
| about like like major things happening in the city. | 00:33:02 | |
| Whether it's month to month or even one year, it's very short term in my mind so. | 00:33:08 | |
| Like maybe maybe what is the motivation where you feel like you're really needing it if what the proposal from you all is, is just | 00:33:14 | |
| one year anyway, a month to month. I mean, you guys know the business, it's your business. You know, nothing's going to be erected | 00:33:20 | |
| in a month or two months or five months or six months. I mean, we're very educated people. We care about this community. Nobody up | 00:33:27 | |
| here is going to make a bad decision for the community. But just like Mike was just talking about. | 00:33:33 | |
| We need information. | 00:33:40 | |
| We need information from everywhere and so. | 00:33:42 | |
| It seems like everything is short term. So what is the big push behind getting like a short term agreement when we're already | 00:33:45 | |
| doing kind of a short term agreement? | 00:33:49 | |
| I'll have to get the answer from you or for you because. | 00:33:56 | |
| The in my mind and. | 00:34:01 | |
| From what I from what I understand being I come from continental dividing grants. I'm from grants born and raised. | 00:34:04 | |
| And I umm, I worked for Continental Divide Electric Cooperative for 4 1/2 years. So, well, I was. I actually left a month. Sigh of | 00:34:11 | |
| my fifth year anniversary. So. | 00:34:18 | |
| So. | 00:34:26 | |
| I've been in coops. I, you know, I of course, if you've been in one or if you work for one Co-op, you work for one Co-op, but from | 00:34:28 | |
| what I understand. | 00:34:33 | |
| The reason why we are going after this franchise agreement so, so hard is because we want to ensure that our members are covered. | 00:34:39 | |
| And whether it be just for a year? | 00:34:50 | |
| We understand that, you know. | 00:34:54 | |
| With supply chain issues. | 00:34:57 | |
| You know some some Transformers are. | 00:35:00 | |
| 57 weeks out. | 00:35:04 | |
| And that's on. | 00:35:06 | |
| So we we understand that you know with the supply chain issues and everything, it's going to take probably longer than a year, | 00:35:08 | |
| longer than two years so on and so forth for you guys to to get everything up and running. And we know that it's it's coming | 00:35:14 | |
| because you guys made an ordinance for it. | 00:35:20 | |
| Now we don't want to see it come, obviously, you know, I'm here, basically. | 00:35:27 | |
| Partially on on behalf of myself because it's my livelihood. | 00:35:35 | |
| You know so. | 00:35:39 | |
| I will have to get back to you on on the. | 00:35:44 | |
| The reason why we're not going for a longer. | 00:35:49 | |
| Franchise agreement we're. | 00:35:52 | |
| Part of the reason, and I can tell you right now, part of the reason is that. | 00:35:56 | |
| We just. We want to. | 00:36:00 | |
| Lock down a year so that way we can get into communication with you guys and sit down. | 00:36:03 | |
| Negotiate things. | 00:36:09 | |
| Possibly for a longer one. | 00:36:11 | |
| You're saying it's going to take a while and I think it will too. But if you look at that solar project that's been going on for | 00:36:15 | |
| about maybe six months. | 00:36:19 | |
| They put a substation in to put in lines, they put in the solar, it's done the one between and Los Unas on that side and then they | 00:36:23 | |
| put that in within six months. So I really think and you know with the with the substation, huh. | 00:36:31 | |
| Sorry, I used to work for the company. Who does this soccer company. Yeah, but I mean, they got the equipment and all that. But | 00:36:40 | |
| again. | 00:36:43 | |
| I still underline that you open up a discussion. That's great. You're doing your job, Mr. Fleming. | 00:36:48 | |
| And Jared, one thing. First of all, we appreciate you having this discussion because you were the first. | 00:36:55 | |
| Representative from the coop. | 00:37:04 | |
| That has stayed at that. | 00:37:06 | |
| For more than 8 minutes. | 00:37:10 | |
| Talking to us and trying to explain stuff. | 00:37:12 | |
| Myself, I don't know. | 00:37:17 | |
| What whether it's going to be month to month or a year? | 00:37:20 | |
| But thank you for your participation in trying to explain stuff. | 00:37:25 | |
| From your end, I know you're a rookie. so-called. | 00:37:30 | |
| Down there, but you are doing a good job for the coop. | 00:37:35 | |
| Thank you. I appreciate that. Well, you know, I mean just to give you the, I'm not going to carry this on further, but the | 00:37:38 | |
| Continental Divide is a good Co-op and actually the one thing that Continental Divide did. | 00:37:44 | |
| That this club we had trouble with for two years until TDs had to go underground and do all their their their broadband | 00:37:49 | |
| continental divide. | 00:37:54 | |
| Did work with a broadband company. | 00:37:58 | |
| That came in from Kit Carson. Pardon. We started, sorry, I don't work for them anymore. They started their own right. But you did | 00:38:01 | |
| do a broadband and they did put it on the poles. | 00:38:07 | |
| Whereas this Co-op dragged the feet with TDs for two years. | 00:38:13 | |
| Would not work with them without them pointing up to million to redo some of the polls which I that's why I want to know if you | 00:38:19 | |
| spent 44 million on any of these polls but those that continental divide was much more progressive and and and further thinking | 00:38:25 | |
| and then they went to Gallup. | 00:38:31 | |
| And they did a contract with tri-state. | 00:38:38 | |
| Because. | 00:38:42 | |
| I think Continental Divide is serving them, but that under a new contract for three and a half cents. | 00:38:43 | |
| They went out to bid for seven years with and they went out for power agreement and and so. | 00:38:48 | |
| Tri-state gave them a 3 1/2 shed. | 00:38:56 | |
| Per kilowatt where they're giving you guys seven or eight cents they get, that's what Continental divide. | 00:39:00 | |
| Is serving Gallup with that contract with tri-state. So I know it can be done. I know it's happened and I think it was in the five | 00:39:06 | |
| years that you were there that when the Continental divide in Gallup. | 00:39:11 | |
| Ordered that of the stuff that you're talking about is there for, yeah. And it's not exactly what you're saying because I can, I | 00:39:17 | |
| can speak from experience. | 00:39:22 | |
| I did all of the marketing for Red Bull broadband through Divide. I know red bolt broadband backwards and forwards, so the. | 00:39:28 | |
| I mean, I could sit here all night. | 00:39:41 | |
| That I really don't. I don't know much about because I was on the fiber side, but as far as the fiber goes. | 00:39:48 | |
| That's a. | 00:39:58 | |
| That's something that we'll have to sit down and have a comment well that's over now because TDs is boring it couldn't go on the | 00:39:59 | |
| polls because it because and you know again we're kind of this is this is this is. | 00:40:05 | |
| It's like you're you've only been, you've been here. | 00:40:11 | |
| But before what Mr. Accomplishes said, we've had these conversations with the I've been to their meetings. | 00:40:14 | |
| I've been given two or five minutes. | 00:40:21 | |
| Speak about it, about broadband, about the cost, about you know how much you're spending in Socorro and what are we benefiting | 00:40:24 | |
| from? Why don't you change over from tri-state to somebody else or at least do 50%. I've been to those meetings. | 00:40:30 | |
| Not one. | 00:40:37 | |
| Not one trustee said. | 00:40:39 | |
| And actually when one trustee did say something to me on a on a private. | 00:40:41 | |
| Text. He was banned from the executive sessions. I mean, that's how that's the history of what's going on at the coop. | 00:40:47 | |
| I just tell you that that's my story about the interaction with the coop and the trustees and the general manager. | 00:40:56 | |
| But again, come again, thank you. Thank you for really having a great conversation about this. Thank you for coming to Jerry. If | 00:41:04 | |
| you guys have questions, call me at my office. I can we can sit down and have a conversation about this. | 00:41:12 | |
| Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, John. | 00:41:20 | |
| OK. Anybody else? | 00:41:24 | |
| Yes, ma'am. | 00:41:26 | |
| Hi a bit of a shift from the last thing I'm Amy Kimball post may remember. I started coming to meetings on and off a couple years | 00:41:28 | |
| ago and the first thing I asked was if the agendas could be posted online and they have been since then which is great. I'm coming | 00:41:35 | |
| because I want to try and figure out how the City Council works and how decisions are made for Socorro and so forth. And so my | 00:41:42 | |
| question today is that that there's a consent agenda at each meeting and. | 00:41:48 | |
| I'm wondering if that is information about that is available to the public and if I was curious about the. | 00:41:56 | |
| The budget resolution items where I would find that information. | 00:42:02 | |
| Hello. Once they're approved, they're they're on that if you go to that meeting. | 00:42:07 | |
| There, there's there's. | 00:42:13 | |
| The agenda, the minutes and then all the resolutions, budget resolutions and also the other resolutions, so details about what | 00:42:15 | |
| what is in them. So it's after the meeting. | 00:42:20 | |
| Yeah, it's actually once it gets approved tonight. | 00:42:25 | |
| What's the mayor sign it? | 00:42:31 | |
| Then I scan it and I post it on to the to the meeting. OK, thanks. I appreciate. And the consent agenda is something kind of new | 00:42:34 | |
| that we started it only started about. | 00:42:38 | |
| Six months ago, a year ago, because we used to go through each one of these things and. | 00:42:43 | |
| I mean, it just kind of was. | 00:42:48 | |
| Just then there was consent everybody. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's why we put that under consent agenda shouldn't be any touchy | 00:42:51 | |
| things, you know, they're basically. Yeah. But like Polo said, it's posted. Yeah, OK. | 00:42:57 | |
| And Mr. Mayor, the council can remove items from the consent consent agenda for additional discussion. | 00:43:04 | |
| All right, Thank you. What else? Anything else? | 00:43:12 | |
| And we usually sit down and sit around here and talk about things and and and you know, for projects. | 00:43:15 | |
| We have a thing called ICIP where we list the projects that the council thinks is our top priority and I don't know if that's is | 00:43:20 | |
| that on AI was actually announced that later the state has moved up the deadline from the middle of September to the middle of | 00:43:27 | |
| July and we will start hosting those meetings at our main meetings. We'll have four meetings, 2IN May and two in June. | 00:43:33 | |
| And get it ready for a vote by resolution to be submitted in July and the public is allowed to come up and bring ideas of what | 00:43:40 | |
| they want to do on projects that want projects, big projects in the city. | 00:43:46 | |
| So things like streets to be paved, etc. | 00:43:53 | |
| We've had a big thing on speed bumps lately. We just spent about $40,000 on that, so. | 00:43:57 | |
| Things of that nature are big projects. You know our water lines, shorelines which we're doing now, big 20 million, eight, $10 | 00:44:03 | |
| million project on Spring Street. We're tearing down part of the junior high school. We've gotten money to remodel the inside of | 00:44:09 | |
| it. So those are some of the big projects that we've done so. | 00:44:14 | |
| And we'll also be advertising the ICIP meetings for May and June and we will put the notice in the utility bills. | 00:44:21 | |
| And post it on the website. | 00:44:28 | |
| Thanks Mr. Salome, Also an opportunity to for public requests from the Budget Committee. | 00:44:31 | |
| For community. | 00:44:37 | |
| Ruby, When would that? When would it be a good time? | 00:44:39 | |
| Oh. | 00:44:44 | |
| But they can still bring it up to administration, I mean. | 00:44:48 | |
| I would just like to add to that that even if you missed that, we prefer you request it now, not after the new budget is started | 00:44:52 | |
| in July. | 00:44:56 | |
| I don't have any requests. | 00:45:01 | |
| What was your first name? | 00:45:04 | |
| Amy Amy Kimball. | 00:45:05 | |
| Mr. Mayor, part of curiosity is the current ICIP. | 00:45:07 | |
| Anywhere on the website for public to see or. | 00:45:12 | |
| I don't believe so, but we can post it. Yeah, great questions. I mean, that's something that I think people need to know. | 00:45:18 | |
| Thank you. | 00:45:26 | |
| And I could also e-mail it to you or print it to you before you leave that, or print for you before you leave tonight. | 00:45:27 | |
| Anyone else? | 00:45:34 | |
| All righty, we're going to go to Mr. Giggles. Kind of withdrew the topic that he was going to discuss, so he'll come at another | 00:45:36 | |
| time. Manzanaris Ave. the Transportation Project Fund, make a motion. We approve resolution #24-04-16A. | 00:45:45 | |
| Second move seconded discussion. | 00:45:54 | |
| That's true my Mr. Mayor, just to point out that A is for a total of 1.124 million. The match is 5%, which is very low for a state | 00:45:57 | |
| funded project, which means if we get the 1.24. | 00:46:03 | |
| All our all our cost would be is 56200 and just that in both of these resolutions. | 00:46:10 | |
| The council's authorizing me to submit the application, which is due May 20. | 00:46:18 | |
| 3rd and that we have sufficient funds for the matching fund. | 00:46:23 | |
| And we have sufficient funding for operation and maintenance and you give me the authority to enter the cooperative agreement of | 00:46:29 | |
| were approved and again that's for both resolutions. | 00:46:34 | |
| And we've got a resolution for the Courthouse Rd. | 00:46:43 | |
| All in favor. | 00:46:47 | |
| Make a motion to approve resolution #24-04-16B. | 00:46:49 | |
| I second moved and seconded discussion. Mr. Manette. The resolutions are identical other than for the projects. As I said, these | 00:46:54 | |
| are for the streets around the courthouse that weren't done as Mccutchen was done the end of March. | 00:47:01 | |
| The total project request is 700,000 and our match would be 35,000 of that. | 00:47:09 | |
| On film, aye. | 00:47:15 | |
| And now we're going to go to the thing I've alluded to. We are. | 00:47:17 | |
| Working with the company. | 00:47:23 | |
| And trying to develop a solar array. | 00:47:24 | |
| And a battery energy energy storage. | 00:47:28 | |
| And we would like the Council to. | 00:47:30 | |
| Approve our relationship with them. It doesn't talk about any money. There's no. | 00:47:33 | |
| Charge for this. If they are successful in getting us a grant, they will then. | 00:47:40 | |
| Get their money from the grant, not there is no money. | 00:47:46 | |
| Expended by the city on this Mr. Again actually have some questions along those lines on six and three the cost and expenses. | 00:47:49 | |
| Where it talks about. | 00:47:58 | |
| So this is. I mean, I'm kind of confused because it talks about this is an agreement. | 00:48:00 | |
| That they're going to perform the duties. | 00:48:04 | |
| In section 1.3 the roles and responsibilities, but then it also talks about. | 00:48:07 | |
| That. | 00:48:12 | |
| Hermit that we have, the court decides within the term not to execute a contract. | 00:48:15 | |
| Where would that contract come into play? And then if we don't execute that contract, we're liable up to $250,000. | 00:48:20 | |
| For the expenses that were paid by ICAST. | 00:48:28 | |
| And that's a good question. I think we asked him that, Donald. | 00:48:31 | |
| Yes, this is a contingency B contract. So we will. It's a contract or an agreement. It's an agreement. It's not a contract, but | 00:48:35 | |
| it's set up. So they're paying if we get paid. But if they put in two years worth of work and we say, OK, we don't want to do it | 00:48:41 | |
| anymore, we're liable for up to 250,000 of whatever their incurred costs are. What would the contract be if we do not execute a | 00:48:47 | |
| contract? What would the contract, What's the contract? I I think this is the contract. It's not a legal contract. Like you said, | 00:48:53 | |
| it's a letter of agreement. | 00:48:59 | |
| But anything? | 00:49:06 | |
| We have no intention says not to execute a contract for the project development. | 00:49:07 | |
| That's after they find the funding. | 00:49:12 | |
| And then we so they find the funding, we decide we don't want it anymore, we're liable up to the expenses, up to $250,000 for the | 00:49:15 | |
| work that they put into up to that point. Yes, Sir. OK. | 00:49:19 | |
| There's no there's no match or any money that's coming out of the city, funds that's made clear to them. This is all going to be. | 00:49:24 | |
| And there's money out there at the solar projects plus the electric project too, which will be piggybacked onto this once we get | 00:49:30 | |
| with them. | 00:49:35 | |
| We have submitted they'll submit a final invoice. | 00:49:43 | |
| Within 30 days from termination or from the date that Socorro decides not to execute a final contract, what would that final | 00:49:46 | |
| contract be? | 00:49:50 | |
| I haven't seen that yet, but I can ask for it. | 00:49:56 | |
| Are you basically saying you're just concerned about being on the up to $250,000? I just want to know if this is a contract or | 00:50:00 | |
| this is just an agreement for because it's what I'm execute a final contract, I just don't know what the final contract would be. | 00:50:07 | |
| Again, I think. | 00:50:16 | |
| What it's saying is if they find funding, they expect us to sign a contract with a contractor to develop it for the project. Yes, | 00:50:17 | |
| And we need to do that within 30 days. And if they don't find the money, then we're right. Yes, that's the whole idea, Mr. Ocampo. | 00:50:24 | |
| That, that was it. If we if they do find the money and then we don't go through with the contract, then obviously grant money | 00:50:31 | |
| probably wouldn't be awarded, it would be pulled back and we wouldn't be on the hook for what they did to try to get that grant | 00:50:36 | |
| correct. No, I think we still would be no. That's my question. | 00:50:41 | |
| The city would be, yeah, this idea is that we're moving ahead with solar. | 00:50:48 | |
| Energy. | 00:50:52 | |
| For our project out there and they're going to find the money to pay for it. Just a moment. And if they don't, you would then. | 00:50:54 | |
| Not if they don't find the money to fund this. | 00:51:03 | |
| That's not city money. | 00:51:06 | |
| We're not going to do the project. | 00:51:08 | |
| But if they do find the money and they spend time and finding the money, they're saying you guys need to pay us, You can't just | 00:51:09 | |
| walk away from us. | 00:51:13 | |
| Because I thought that the city was. | 00:51:17 | |
| Wanting to get solar energy into our community, and that's just one way to do it and they're very successful. They're doing the | 00:51:20 | |
| same thing with Aztec. | 00:51:23 | |
| Mr. Mr. Mother is this time sensitive as far as. | 00:51:29 | |
| The only reason it's time sensitive now is because if we don't start applying for these grants within the next month or so, we're | 00:51:34 | |
| gonna have to wait a year to apply for them again. | 00:51:38 | |
| But just to explain the process a little bit, we find what they call a noticeable word or no, no phone notice for opportunities or | 00:51:44 | |
| something like that, and we send in a letter of intent. | 00:51:50 | |
| And then we start filling out the application. | 00:51:57 | |
| We submit the application for the grants you're talking about. Yes, Sir, if we. | 00:52:00 | |
| If we're selected for an award, they send us a letter of award and then they start working on the grant agreement. | 00:52:05 | |
| For us, both the science, so it's a lengthy process, but that also could be what they're referring to, assigning a contract, | 00:52:11 | |
| assigning an agreement, saying, yes, we want this money and we're going to go after it, we're going to finish the project. | 00:52:18 | |
| Is it putting that before the horse to think that we're doing solar before we're doing the actual? | 00:52:25 | |
| It's actually in conjunction with it. | 00:52:30 | |
| They also are working with Finley, our consultants that built the. | 00:52:33 | |
| Or design the project and so this is kind of in conjunction, this is goes back to the visual aids that we had where you they | 00:52:37 | |
| mapped out some areas that they could use for solar a few meetings ago, maybe a month or two ago. | 00:52:43 | |
| That was probably maybe a month or two ago this year and that was the area and it's close to the substation that we're proposing. | 00:52:51 | |
| But some of the chicken or the egg, I mean, we're trying to put all these together, especially to try to get in because there's | 00:52:56 | |
| money available right now for for solar and for electric projects. | 00:53:01 | |
| And so that's what and this company is very successful like I said they're doing with Aztec, they're going to I think going to do | 00:53:07 | |
| it with Bloomfield. What what does it say if the industrial leg gets goes to a vote and doesn't get passed. | 00:53:13 | |
| What would we do with the solar then? | 00:53:20 | |
| If we or would we just be out the $250,000? | 00:53:22 | |
| Well, I mean if we didn't, if it didn't pass, they're not as, I mean they may be out, but we're not going to be out 250,000 | 00:53:26 | |
| because we should be able to bring that to you in the next 2-3 months. | 00:53:31 | |
| And so if it's, if it's not passed, then. | 00:53:38 | |
| They'll say, well, you know, we spent $5000 on doing this. | 00:53:41 | |
| Or 10,000, I'm gonna say 250,000 amounted to the time that they spent. But we've got, I mean. | 00:53:46 | |
| I feel the Council had asked me to go ahead and move along with this industrial leg and find a way to, you know, to pay for it, | 00:53:52 | |
| and that's what we're trying to present to the Council. | 00:53:56 | |
| Mr. Mr. Organ thinking down down the road as well if it if it, let's just say the electricity city of the city provided. | 00:54:01 | |
| Electricity never comes to fruition. | 00:54:09 | |
| And we're building this project. | 00:54:13 | |
| Will the city be able to use? | 00:54:16 | |
| The solar power for city. | 00:54:18 | |
| Electricity. |