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Event transcript
No another. 00:00:08
Yeah. 00:00:11
Councillor Dean. 00:00:14
Councillor Fleming. 00:00:15
Answer Ocampo. 00:00:17
Councillor Roguin. 00:00:19
Councillor Partridge here. 00:00:21
Councillor Romero. 00:00:23
He's here somewhere. 00:00:25
He was here a little while ago and then he got a phone call. 00:00:27
Councillor Salome here, we have a quad. 00:00:30
All right for the Pledge of Allegiance. 00:00:35
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. 00:00:39
And to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 00:00:43
Mr. Mayor. 00:00:57
Motion to approve the consent agenda at. 00:00:59
As presented. 00:01:04
Discussion on that? 00:01:07
All in favor, aye? 00:01:08
All right, we've got the. 00:01:11
Public Forum Who's first Andy Luttridge, county manager? 00:01:12
Thank you. 00:01:27
When I get. 00:01:52
All right. Thank you, Mr. Mayor, Members of City Council. 00:01:58
So this is in regard to the EMS service negotiations where we stand. 00:02:02
With the county has proposed and I wanted to be able to provide you with specific information. 00:02:07
So that you had a little clearer understanding of where the county is coming from, what we're attempting to do, and how we can get 00:02:12
to where we all need to be. 00:02:17
So for those that may not have heard, the County of Sakura has received a letter where we have been notified of an intent. 00:02:21
To reduce the geographic area of the EMS response. 00:02:30
The EMS response is actually contained in the dot publication. 00:02:35
And it's one of those things that for the past 30 years has remained the same, intact. 00:02:40
So the request from the city is that the county provide three additional staff members. 00:02:47
The basis for that request was that number one. 00:02:55
There's increased responses that are going up to the Vegeta area that the city cannot charge for. In other words, there's no 00:02:59
insurance up there and the individuals can't pay. 00:03:04
The other reason was because Socorro, the city of Socorro, was actually going to the village of Magdalena. 00:03:10
So it's one of those things that the village of Magdalena. 00:03:16
Is not unincorporated. They are incorporated just as the city of Socorro. 00:03:20
So. 00:03:25
The county has no standing to be able to tell the village of Magdalena what to do, how to do it, or anything else. 00:03:27
But it's one of those things, I'll let you read this in its entirety so I don't have to read it to you. 00:03:35
But it's one of those things that right now, if we brought the village of Magdalena to the table. 00:03:41
To have these discussions as to what's happening with Emergency Management. 00:03:46
They have their own ambulance and they are receiving state dollars for their ambulance service. 00:03:51
That they're not running. 00:03:58
So in other words. 00:03:59
They have this windfall of money that they're sitting on right now. 00:04:01
That if the city of Socorro said village of Magdalena. 00:04:05
If we're having to run our ambulances up there, which actually you guys had to run at least two this past week that I heard on my 00:04:08
scanner. 00:04:11
That it's one of those things that not only would you be able to be able to fund all three of these positions that you're asking 00:04:15
for. 00:04:19
But you would be able to do it. 00:04:23
Five times over. 00:04:25
So it's one of those things that even though you could have that additional money from the village of Magdalena to help you. 00:04:27
The County of Socorro was still leaving the money on the table that we have. 00:04:34
Said we were going to provide to the city. 00:04:39
We would still provide it. 00:04:41
In other words, it's one of those that even though the village would be putting in, I'm not pulling off the table. 00:04:43
The reason why we can only do the two positions. 00:04:49
Is because those two positions are tied directly to the unincorporated areas of Socorro County. 00:04:53
I can fund you those two positions. 00:05:00
At the dollar amount that you proposed. 00:05:03
That's in the proposal that we made to, you know, if ands or buts. 00:05:06
Now, uh. 00:05:10
The other outstanding issue then is. 00:05:11
Whether or not for how long we could do that. 00:05:14
As a county in the state of New Mexico, we are limited under the procurement code to this type of contract. 00:05:17
It can only be for four years. 00:05:24
I realized that we want to continue the payments into the future and trust me. 00:05:26
If I could. 00:05:30
I would. 00:05:32
But unfortunately the procurement code tells me I can only enter it into four years and we can have a reopener provision to where 00:05:33
we can go into it. 00:05:37
Now, some of those things that are impacting the city of Sapporo right now with those EMS services, like I said. 00:05:42
Are those? 00:05:50
Transportation that cannot be reimbursed. 00:05:52
The county is proposing that the next legislative cycle, we attack this together and we go and we change. 00:05:56
Legislation to be able to say when those occur, there has to be some type of reimbursement coming into the city of Socorro. 00:06:04
It is absolutely unfair and unjust. 00:06:11
That the city of Sapporo is having to go 30 miles with an ambulance and not get paid for it. 00:06:15
The next thing that we also have to take a look at is right now the city of Socorro is providing what's called an intra hospital 00:06:21
transportation. 00:06:27
It's non emergent care. 00:06:33
In other words. 00:06:36
Presbyterian Health Center has their own ambulance service in the city of Albuquerque. 00:06:38
There's absolutely no reason why our City of Socorro EMS personnel have to be leaving the county to do those transports. 00:06:45
When Presbyterian could bring down the ambulance from Albuquerque. 00:06:53
And then transport from Saguaro General. 00:06:56
Up to one of the Presbyterian hospitals in Albuquerque. 00:07:00
That keeps our EMS personnel here. 00:07:03
But. 00:07:06
The other thing that we also have to keep in mind is going to be right now because basically. 00:07:08
80 to 85% of all of your calls that you're making into the ambulance, you're receiving payments for. 00:07:15
Those payments are not going into. 00:07:23
The fire department. 00:07:27
Those payments are going into the general fund. 00:07:29
So if we actually took a look then and said hey. 00:07:32
We want to, right now, be able to provide money for that additional position if we can't get the village of Magdalena to the 00:07:36
table. 00:07:40
By the two positions that the. 00:07:44
County is willing to pay. 00:07:47
You then have enough money for that third position. 00:07:49
So there are ways that we can do this. 00:07:52
And it's not going to be. 00:07:54
Coming off the backs of either one of us taking the brunt of it. 00:07:56
So, umm. 00:08:01
What I am proposing and what I would like to see so that we can move these negotiations on and so that we can all have the numbers 00:08:02
we need to make the decisions that we need to make at the right time. 00:08:08
Is. Pardon me while I look it up. 00:08:14
But umm. 00:08:16
If you appoint in EMS committee. 00:08:19
In accordance with Section 12, two of the City of Socorro's codes. 00:08:22
We would be able to then get to the bargaining table with all of the necessary information. 00:08:27
To be able to come up with a true. 00:08:33
Cooperative collaborative agreement. 00:08:36
And we wouldn't need to have any type of discussions about ceasing any type of EMS services. 00:08:38
To the unincorporated portion of Sapporo County. 00:08:45
It would be one thing if I was sitting on an ambulance service and I wasn't doing the services like the village of Magdalena. 00:08:48
We're not 30 years, there's never been an ambulance service. 00:08:57
So I don't have the personnel, I don't have the ability to go higher. What needs to be done? 00:09:02
However, what we can do is look at. 00:09:07
For the past 30 years you have operated that ambulance service with the personnel you have. 00:09:11
We have an increase, let's work together to do a cooperatively to get us where we need to be. 00:09:17
But we feel it's unjust to try to say to the rest of unincorporated Socorro County. 00:09:23
San Antonio, we're shutting off the service. 00:09:30
Vasquez Ito was shutting off the service. 00:09:33
Come on, we're shutting off the service. 00:09:36
It's going to be one of those things that we all want to have a fair shake in it. 00:09:39
We want to do our part as the county. 00:09:45
But we have to have something different than to take it or leave it. You either pay for all three positions or we stretch you off. 00:09:48
And that's what we're saying is. 00:09:55
We want to work with you. 00:09:57
You have it now in writing, exactly what we have proposed, what we can do and how we get that third entity to the table so that we 00:09:59
can get you your third position legally. 00:10:05
And I think if we work together and we're able to draft the letter. 00:10:11
To the village of Magdalena, where we say the city of Sakura. 00:10:16
The County of Socorro request your attendance at these meetings so we can deliberate as to how. 00:10:20
We're going to be providing EMS services for everybody because. 00:10:26
My position is county manager. 00:10:31
It doesn't matter to me whether you're in the city or in the county. 00:10:34
Everybody. 00:10:37
Is in the county of Socorro. 00:10:39
Everybody should have the same access to the health care services that we provide. 00:10:41
And the county wants to be able to support you financially. 00:10:47
But because of those legal constraints that are contained there in that document that I provided to you. 00:10:50
We can't provide all three right now, but there's a way that all three can be provided if we work together. 00:10:57
So with that, I'll let you read it at your leisure. 00:11:04
I'll stand for questions and I'll be available if anybody wants to have it, but I would hope that here in the not too distant 00:11:08
future, we get that committee put together so that we can all sit down at the table together and work this out. 00:11:14
Mr. Fleming. 00:11:23
Thank you, Mr. 00:11:24
Andy, uh. 00:11:26
I'm curious about the information he just passed on. 00:11:28
About Albuquerque Ambulance. 00:11:35
Coming down to do transports. 00:11:39
Are you able to tell me who gave you that information? 00:11:44
Yes, that information came directly from one of the ambulance drivers themselves. 00:11:49
And the I'm on the Presbyterian Hospital board. 00:11:55
I'm on the Finance Committee. 00:11:59
And I have spent the last two years trying to negotiate. 00:12:02
Along with Veronica Adele. 00:12:08
With the people up in the head sheds in Albuquerque. 00:12:11
To get a transport unit down here. 00:12:16
The state, as the chief over here, will tell you. 00:12:19
The state will not allow. 00:12:25
And even our four tech ones to transport an individual if they are on a certain drip system. 00:12:27
We don't have one. 00:12:35
There is very few. 00:12:38
Ambulance services in the state. 00:12:41
That can run paramedics. 00:12:44
Or you have to have a full-fledged or in. 00:12:47
That is certified in the drip system. 00:12:51
That ambulance driver that told you this information? 00:12:57
May not approach you. That Albuquerque ambulance is short 45 paramedics as of right now. 00:13:02
I can't even do all the calls in Albuquerque. 00:13:10
We have a problem that we have. 00:13:15
A lot of wonderful patients from Sapporo. 00:13:18
Who get very upset. 00:13:23
At the hospital. 00:13:27
And also our wonderful fire department and EMS. 00:13:29
Because they have to sit there in the room. 00:13:35
Waiting for a transfer. 00:13:38
Those patients are very anxious to move on. 00:13:43
Do not realize that there are 7 individuals in Albuquerque. 00:13:47
At me every morning. 00:13:52
At 5:30 AM. 00:13:55
From all the different hospitals in the city. 00:13:58
Of Albuquerque. 00:14:01
They look at the number of patients. 00:14:03
That are in the ER waiting to go up. 00:14:06
They're anticipating the number of surgeries they're going to have that day. 00:14:09
And what? 00:14:14
Possibility of walk-in traffic. 00:14:16
That is what determines whether. 00:14:23
You get. 00:14:26
Out of here within an hour. 00:14:27
For what other amount of time? 00:14:30
If you begin this one at Albuquerque Ambulances. 00:14:35
You're looking at a lengthy period of time for that ambulance to get down there. 00:14:41
We are, chief. We are transporting how many patients a day now with our units. 00:14:49
OK. 00:14:56
So I can get you the average wait time. 00:15:01
Of our patients here before they head out for future life. 00:15:06
No. 00:15:11
Councillor Fleming, it's absolutely one of those things that's occurring. 00:15:13
The one thing to keep in mind with all of those discussions about what else Albuquerque has access to? 00:15:17
You have AMR. 00:15:24
You have the different private ambulance services that could also be utilized, but we're talking about right here is going to be. 00:15:25
We if we're doing two to four transports, is it a week? 00:15:33
Or they so we're looking at 2:00 to 4:00 transports a day. 00:15:38
Just for that service right there. 00:15:42
That means we're looking at anywhere from the neighborhood of six to eight of our of your employees being out of Socorro County at 00:15:44
any given time. 00:15:49
And it's one of those things that is really putting a strain on your ability to have enough EMS personnel. 00:15:54
For the entire county. 00:16:01
And so that's why we're saying we need to get to the table to try to figure out. 00:16:03
Right now the county paid for all county citizens to be able to have Phi and the helicopter. 00:16:08
For it. Now one of the drawbacks of that is it's very expensive, but there wouldn't be any out of pocket expenses for Socorro 00:16:16
County citizens. 00:16:20
And those flights could occur more regularly. 00:16:25
The other thing that we can look at then is like I said. 00:16:28
If the village of Magdalena is brought to the table, there's an additional ambulance and the additional personnel that we would be 00:16:32
able to hire and have available to us. 00:16:37
So if we're having to do those two to four non-emergency transports per day, that could be picked up by a different entity, either 00:16:42
AMR or somebody else. 00:16:46
Then we're able to keep those positions here in the county of Socorro for the emergency responses. 00:16:51
But it's it's one of those things that. 00:16:58
Councillor Fleming, that you pointed out. 00:17:02
Perfectly well. 00:17:04
If we stay just as we are requiring your personnel to do these daily runs at that amount. 00:17:06
These three positions aren't going to cut it. 00:17:14
They're not even going to be able to cover what's currently going on in the city of Sapporo right now in and of itself. 00:17:17
The only way that we're going to be able to resolve some of these long outstanding issues is. 00:17:23
If all of us come together at the table to be able to say. 00:17:29
This is what's happening. How do we fix it? What are some of the things? Do we look at different legislation? Do we look at 00:17:33
different partnerships with other individuals in the city of Albuquerque? 00:17:38
What happens with Presbyterian now opening that new hospital in Los Lunas? 00:17:43
Is there an opportunity there to where Valencia County Transport can come into the program and be able to be utilized? Mr. 00:17:48
Partridge. 00:17:52
Mr. Lotrich did when you say three staff and correct me if I'm wrong there, they they said something about dispatch at the last 00:17:59
time that that would seem to be a bit of an issue. 00:18:04
I'll simplify this for you. 00:18:09
You're a lawyer. You wrote a nice big long thing here. 00:18:11
The bottom line is. 00:18:15
You know, I compare this to somebody who's living in my house rent free. 00:18:16
And he wants to have a committee meeting at the dinner table to see. 00:18:21
How I can help? 00:18:25
Make it possible for them to continue living in my house without paying anything. 00:18:27
As simple as this. 00:18:32
We need 3. 00:18:33
Will stop serving the county if we don't get them. And no strings attached. Simple, Mr. Lottridge. 00:18:36
All that's going to the legislature, all this four year thing that you're saying. 00:18:43
All those things you're suggesting you're living in my house for free? 00:18:48
We're giving you services for free for 30 years. 00:18:53
And you coming to tell me how to do this? 00:18:56
I don't think so. 00:18:59
You know if you're going to make a, if you're going to make an offer. 00:19:00
That you want. 00:19:04
And not what we need. 00:19:06
We don't need a meeting. We don't need a. 00:19:09
Discussion. We don't need a. 00:19:11
I think your last thing on. 00:19:14
Recommendations is. 00:19:17
Appointed EMS committee. 00:19:19
Well, so that you can continue to live grant free and figure out a way to do it. 00:19:21
That's not gonna work. 00:19:26
And you had a long, long talk. Let me finish. 00:19:28
But it's not a courtroom. 00:19:33
You had your. 00:19:35
You wrote it down. I didn't see this ahead of time. 00:19:36
But I'm looking at the last part and then I'm not going to throw Magdalene under the bus. 00:19:39
You know, we'll have a discussion with them. 00:19:44
You can't use them to. 00:19:46
To kind of leverage our sentiment, sentiment. 00:19:48
The bottom line is, and you did this to us with your Senior Center. 00:19:52
You aren't the county manager at that time, but you threw us to under the bus. 00:19:57
With the Senior Center that was supposedly 350,000. 00:20:01
You've got $22 million in reserve that you're making a million off of. 00:20:05
Every year. 00:20:09
On interest. 00:20:11
So I don't understand this poor mountain that you're telling us to do this, to do that. 00:20:12
We'll work with the hospital. 00:20:18
This is only between US and the county. 00:20:20
And this service. 00:20:23
As we've already cut out Ketron County, which is kind of a stretch. 00:20:25
We're just not going to do this anymore. 00:20:30
And if you want to do it every four years and every four years, we'll have this discussion again. 00:20:32
But you gotta, you gotta understand that we're in desperate need as far as the budget is concerned. 00:20:37
Ambulances are 320,000. 00:20:42
They're two years out. 00:20:45
My guys have to fight fires. 00:20:47
The God of a Gita. 00:20:50
And you're just gonna. 00:20:51
Fails for going out there. 00:20:53
There's such a thing as having an ambulance system that you can depend on. 00:20:54
That's a separate charge. That's a charge for having a system that you have to. 00:20:58
Continue on. 00:21:04
More than just one run at a time. You don't pay it for one you're asking us to have if you develop an ambulance system for the 00:21:06
unincorporated part of the county. 00:21:10
It's going to cost you at least 2 million. 00:21:16
And don't tell me how I'm going to spend the money that I make off of the charges, which is about 60% of the total. 00:21:18
Charges that we make. 00:21:25
As to whether how we're going to spend, put it into the ambulance thing so you can have an ambulance. 00:21:27
Service for free. 00:21:32
That's not going to work. 00:21:33
So I'm telling you, I don't know what the Council wants to do. 00:21:35
But that, that's my feeling about this Miss Mary Angela. It's for free. They're not paying anything. 00:21:38
But they pay $40,000 in the last four years. 00:21:43
I think that Ruby. 00:21:45
Ruby. No, Ruby. Oh, there you are. How much? How many $1000 have they paid? 00:21:47
Just purchased. 00:21:53
But that's a year usually. 00:21:58
But then we use that when we use some of the money that we were going to send to the jail for the. 00:22:01
But it was a watch without money. 00:22:10
So it wasn't exactly. 00:22:12
Yeah. So it's it's negligible, let's put it that way. You know, what's the budget, Lawrence? This million? 00:22:16
Then 1.4 million thousand our budget so. 00:22:24
We're talking about 3. Is there any way that we could negotiate 2? 00:22:29
Of course you're what people. 00:22:34
Can bring in a staff and he can. 00:22:37
He's given I want 30. I know, but. 00:22:40
Like I told you, if you're living in my house for free. 00:22:45
And you're not just going to get another. And I'm not telling you, you know what you got to pay your way and you want to put 00:22:48
together a committee to decide how I'm going to pay the mortgage on this. How do I pay the utilities? You know, how do I pay all 00:22:52
of this? 00:22:56
That's that's like a, you know, I don't want to use the, I don't want to use the. 00:23:00
The Oval Office. 00:23:05
Interview, but that's what's happening here. 00:23:08
Is that we're getting told how to do this. 00:23:11
When we I think we met a very appropriate, reasonable. 00:23:13
Request. 00:23:18
It was a half a page, it wasn't 3 pages. 00:23:19
And it was straightforward and you heard the, you heard the, you heard the presentation last meeting. 00:23:23
About 25 to 30%. 00:23:29
Of our resources. 00:23:31
Go to. 00:23:34
Lawrence, did you have something to say? 00:23:35
More. More times than not. 00:23:42
He bought something but help? 00:24:04
It's a start and then we can negotiate some other stuff. 00:24:08
But I can't. I just can't have. 00:24:11
Somebody coming to tell me how I'm going to do this? 00:24:13
When we made a request. 00:24:17
And we and we made this request a year ago, I think. 00:24:18
A year ago. 00:24:22
So, Mr. Partridge. 00:24:24
Just to answer the question early, I apologize. 00:24:26
3. 00:24:30
EMS. EMS firefighters. 00:24:32
I mean, our guys are, our guys are dual, but. 00:24:35
We I knew that there was an issue that we spoke about with dispatch and calls and not having communication is that that's a whole 00:24:39
other. 00:24:43
There's another meeting that's another part of the house that's free. That's another meeting we're having the. 00:24:47
On the 11th. 00:24:52
As another meeting with the Commissioner Gonzalez. 00:24:54
It's on the 13th Thursday 13, so that's a dispatch meeting, which is also another with a live dispatch out of Las Cruces. 00:24:57
The sheriff does so. 00:25:05
And the reason they do that is because we asked them to help us with the dispatch. 00:25:07
No, we're gonna go to Las Cruces. 00:25:11
So again, this is a long history of this. 00:25:13
That's why I'm so fired up, is that? 00:25:16
I just think it's unreasonable. 00:25:18
They give me a four page thing at the end saying that we're going to put together a committee and according to some. 00:25:21
Section 12-2. I don't know what that is from City of Segora Court of Regulation. 00:25:27
But it's a simple task. It's a simple ask. We're giving you service. We've been giving you service. 00:25:32
We're spending 1,400,000 right now on. 00:25:38
Ambulance fire. 00:25:41
We live in the city unintended when we do go out to the Gita or go to the rest stop. 00:25:43
We're asking you for a beginning 3 firefighters and it's not if you're strapped for money. 00:25:47
Because I know what your finances are. 00:25:53
And I just find that. 00:25:55
Almost insulting to say that let's have a meeting about the same situations where. 00:25:58
On approximately 6 to $7,000,000 that you're earning. So it's one of those that yes, we have both been able to put money away. 00:26:03
For reserves. 00:26:13
But all that money is actually allocated to other bills. It's just until that bill comes, we keep it in the reserve to to then 00:26:15
earn it. But what it really comes down to is this isn't not somebody wanting to live rent free. 00:26:21
What you just were presented to you right there is right in the neighborhood of the first time I was asked about this. 00:26:28
For $200,000 per year on the table. 00:26:35
So what we're looking at right now when you look at those numbers that the Chief just provided? 00:26:39
That's right in the neighborhood of about 10 to 15% of the annual budget for you, for these entire department. 00:26:44
The one thing that we didn't include in it? 00:26:52
Would be OK. If we're putting money in, then we would realistically be able to recoup a percentage of what you're getting back 00:26:54
from those payments. 00:26:59
Don't want to do that. We're not going to shortchange you. This isn't about the county coming to you and saying we want something 00:27:04
for free. 00:27:07
It's saying right now we know that two of those positions are directly for. 00:27:11
The unincorporated area of Socorro County. 00:27:17
The other position is specifically to deal with Magdalena. 00:27:20
Magdalena is outside of my jurisdiction. I cannot negotiate for him. I can't do anything. 00:27:24
You have the ability to have that conversation with them. 00:27:29
And I support you 100% in having that conversation to say Magdalena. 00:27:32
You have an ambulance service. 00:27:37
It's not usable. We're sending City of Socorro resources step up. 00:27:39
So where you're saying is. 00:27:44
You're subsidizing us 10%. 00:27:47
And yet you're getting 25% of our service. 00:27:49
How's that equitable? 00:27:52
It was what you requested. We utilized your numbers that you provided to us. I didn't come when you said you wanted this salary. I 00:27:54
said OK, we will give you that salary. We're trying to be reasonable. 00:28:00
So we're trying to be reasonable with the 200,000, which is like you said. 00:28:08
You know the percentage similar to and you're not going to tell us where. 00:28:12
Take one of them from Maglina and two. 00:28:16
Mr. Bach, our chief, is going to decide that as to how he deploys his troops. 00:28:20
Not somebody from the outside. We're asking you to pair your share. 00:28:24
For the work that we're doing for the county and have been doing for 30 years. 00:28:29
That's all we're asking. 00:28:33
You wanted to negotiate that. I don't think there's a negotiation there. 00:28:35
Because we are continually. 00:28:39
Trying to stay above board as far as. 00:28:41
Our budgets are concerned and as far as the revenue we make off of those runs. 00:28:44
That's where the runs, but it's not having a base of having an ambulance service. 00:28:48
If you think you can run an ambulance service for 200,000. 00:28:53
You might guess you can have the unincorporated area set up your ambulance service, but that's where you're misconstruing and 00:28:57
misrepresenting what's being provided to you. 00:29:01
With all due respect. 00:29:05
Italian Socorro does not want to run an ambulance service that would be in competition or in lieu of. 00:29:07
We believe that the citizens that we are putting through Sapporo County. 00:29:13
So Coral consolidated schools right now. 00:29:18
Our top individuals that we can train. 00:29:20
That we're going to be able to keep local that when we have local individuals working here. 00:29:23
It helps out not only your budget, our budget, but the entire school system, and we take pride in our community. 00:29:29
And so it's going to be one of those things that how do we build upon this, that right now one of those efforts that we are trying 00:29:35
to push through as the county with the school district is actually to have a firefighter training Academy at the high school so 00:29:41
that when they turn 18, they have their firefighter one service. 00:29:47
Now we have our own pool coming in. 00:29:53
We didn't come asking for resources or support. 00:29:56
And in fact, you can ask Councillor Ocampo. 00:29:59
When they asked about, well can we hire those, I said yes. 00:30:03
Most I hate to cut you short, I hate to cut you short, but this is a. 00:30:06
Comment section. Next time we'll put it on the agenda if you if you would like and that way we can have a bigger discussion and 00:30:11
maybe have an action item we need to, but this is like a 2 minute comment section. We kind of let it run. 00:30:17
But let's go on to it at another time and have an agenda item to do this. No, no, I look forward to that and. 00:30:23
Councillor Partridge, with the other questions that you have. 00:30:31
Feel free to reach out to me running time and I'll get you those answers that you were wanting to ask today. 00:30:34
True, thank you. Suggest that Mister Latrice is suggestion of you reaching out to the county. 00:30:40
Kind of goes against our administrative policy. 00:30:46
Yeah, no. 00:30:50
Pick us off one at a time if they would like, but I think it's important that we have an. 00:30:53
Out and out discussion about what we're talking about. 00:30:58
That's my. That's my. 00:31:01
Not about my only assume. 00:31:04
What I was going to say is. 00:31:08
Is that? 00:31:09
Do you know how much that third? 00:31:11
So if you're willing to give us 2. 00:31:13
What? 00:31:17
Budget look like for two and how much more is it for three? 00:31:18
For that third person. 00:31:22
If you go to this page in the handout, you'll notice the yellow section, and this is actually straight from the city of Socorro 00:31:24
that I just cut and pasted straight from them. So you're looking at 95,900 for the full top. 00:31:30
Of the peace scale. 00:31:38
So if you multiply that times 3. 00:31:40
We're looking at somewhere in the neighborhood of $280,000. 00:31:42
Mr. Parker, if you request that for me, I'll give you our our. 00:31:46
The RSP. 00:31:50
He's got his own ask, but I could tell you what we guess. 00:31:52
OK. Well, thank you for answering the question. You're welcome. Thank you. 00:31:55
As I heard a public comment. 00:32:01
I'm sorry if I put you to sleep, I thought I was talking loud enough. 00:32:06
Councillors and. 00:32:11
Mr. Mayor. 00:32:12
My name is Travis Harris. 00:32:13
And I was here just. 00:32:15
Checking on the and I'll tell you what what happened and we've got. 00:32:19
I don't know if you've seen our little binder, We had somebody come in and assess our water rights. 00:32:23
And we came in for a surprise. We thought we had 400 surface rights. 00:32:28
Turns out we only have 140. 00:32:33
We have, well, rights. 00:32:36
So I and I was totally novice about this so I did not know the difference from well rights, surface rights. 00:32:37
And what we had. 00:32:43
So she went and talked to the state engineer. 00:32:45
And actually told us that we perhaps may have. 00:32:48
Leased out more than we had at one time to Mr. 00:32:52
Or foreign. And here's our sunset. 00:32:56
But we came, and I'm more than happy to share that binder with you. 00:32:59
But she went and researched our water rights. 00:33:04
And we came up. 00:33:07
Way short than what we thought we had. 00:33:08
So that's where we ended up. 00:33:11
And I apologize for that, you guys having to go through all this, but. 00:33:13
That's what happened. Is we under. 00:33:16
We overestimated what our water rights were. 00:33:19
So is there not going to be any available at all? 00:33:22
I'm about we have to work with the EPA. 00:33:25
And then we have to decide and the Council is going to have to decide. 00:33:29
As to how much you want to keep in balance, but there may be some. 00:33:32
But but it was a rude awakening as far as how many I'd really thought we had over 400. 00:33:36
Service rights, well, I was hoping you did too because I could use some I know, I know and then and then the differentiation and I 00:33:41
know you have a well that we can, we may be able to transfer some well rights. 00:33:47
So this, that's where it gets complicated for me. 00:33:53
Because there's. 00:33:57
And then there's surface water rights and then we get a return rights. 00:33:58
For the stuff we put back from the sewer plant. 00:34:03
And that I'm sorry to say I'm totally confused about this. 00:34:06
You may you may want to look at that binder and give us more. 00:34:10
Light as to what you think. 00:34:13
I'm not a lawyer, no, no, but there's no but the water lawyers. I mean, it's like that. 00:34:15
A major It's a major thing. The water situation in the state of New Mexico is. 00:34:19
And I think it's, I think it's on inventory. 00:34:25
I don't know if the inventory is. 00:34:29
I think, I think, I don't know if the governor was planning to do that eventually, but. 00:34:31
The type and number of water rights are not inventory. 00:34:36
And I think there's that's where Texas and everybody starts complaining, yeah, but that's another that's bigger than us. But the 00:34:41
bottom line is that's what we did. 00:34:44
And I'm. 00:34:49
Absolutely make that binder available and. 00:34:50
If you look through it and you see there's something that we can do with you, I'd be more than happy to do because you had the 00:34:52
best bid for it so. 00:34:55
And I think that's what we need to do. 00:34:59
Well, I'm still interested if you guys come up with them, but look at the look at the well rights and we'll ask her if there's any 00:35:01
well rights that are available. 00:35:05
And I guess you could pump it into the ditch and then through that one. 00:35:09
That costs a lot of money too. It does the pumping it. Yeah, yeah. 00:35:13
I apologize. I just, I don't know what else it's it's frustrating that we go through the process and you as well going through the 00:35:16
process of advertising and and then we think we get the bid when they open the bid and. 00:35:22
And then come to find out there's nothing available and we've engaged her just about the time we advertise it because we were 00:35:29
worried about that too. 00:35:33
And one other consideration, Mr. Mayor, in her analysis and after our use and. 00:35:37
Of a small lease for 7 1/2 acres. 00:35:44
20/22 it was 145. 00:35:46
Take her feet left in 2023 is 125. 2020 4 is 110. 00:35:49
So our use is going up. So that's that's where our water rights. 00:35:55
It did open up a different. 00:36:00
Thing and again. 00:36:02
I know you guys had thought you were going to get it, but and we thought we're going to. 00:36:04
Listen. But then she came up with this. 00:36:08
Recent information. 00:36:11
And it was with the state engineer. She went and researched a lot of that. 00:36:13
So that well, thanks for the opportunity. Thank you. Hopefully it comes. 00:36:17
But again, if you have some time, you might want to look at that. We'll get you out. We even make a copy of that. 00:36:23
Let him have it. And Mr. Merritt, in a meeting a week ago or so, we asked the cog to look into. 00:36:28
Finding somebody and funding somebody that can help all these cities and counties adjudicate their water rights and their, the 00:36:35
South Central Council of Government said They've been discussing it and I believe the finance authority is trying to find the 00:36:39
person. 00:36:43
Or the State Engineers office, one of the. 00:36:48
Gwen, you have something to say. 00:36:52
No, no, you have something for the for the. 00:36:56
Public comment. 00:37:02
We're working on grants for you guys. 00:37:09
Right now we're working on. 00:37:11
Finley is our top priority. 00:37:14
And uh. 00:37:16
Umm, density. I'm getting the fencing in the sod is another top priority. 00:37:19
Um, we checked in with Cheyenne over at tourism and they're planning to do clean and beautiful again. And then Kay Linda, that's 00:37:25
on its second year, which is a pretty cool program that could also help with your economic development person. So we're looking at 00:37:30
how to form that out. 00:37:35
And the rate those three programs work together? 00:37:41
So those are all right on the cusp of being released. 00:37:44
What else? Thriving communities are still moving ahead we're looking to do. 00:37:48
A smaller version of a master transportation plan to look at our roads and see. 00:37:53
Really what needs to be done with them? 00:37:58
And get that information from the USDOT and the RCAC. 00:38:00
So we're moving, we're trucking right along every. There's a lot of. 00:38:04
A lot of balls in the air right now. 00:38:07
And that's not still to mention we still have the El Camino Real Museum on the back burner. The CNG station is still on the back 00:38:10
burner. 00:38:13
Working with code enforcement and the Senior Center to do maybe a yard cleanup grant. We're going to put together a program and 00:38:17
the animal shelter also has a couple opportunities to get. 00:38:22
Thank you for keeping us up on that. 00:38:28
Anyone else like gifts? 00:38:32
Miss Hook. 00:38:34
Hi I'm. 00:38:40
Asking for your guys's help in. 00:38:42
Advertising for my community BBQ if I may. I can't pass around the fire. 00:38:44
This is my fourth year putting it on. 00:38:58
Last year we had. 00:39:02
From 300 people show up. 00:39:03
Our main goal is to go ahead and showcase. 00:39:07
What all we have to offer in our community. 00:39:13
Because I hear so often that our community is dying. 00:39:16
I don't believe that. 00:39:20
I know that our community is still here. 00:39:21
We're just hurting. 00:39:24
And this is one way that we can showcase what we have to offer for community involvement and community together. 00:39:26
I'd like to ask the City Council just to help me advertise. 00:39:34
Showcase. 00:39:39
That we're doing this. 00:39:41
We are doing it at video. 00:39:43
All the food is going to be donated. 00:39:45
Everything is about community and I'm trying to make sure that everything is free. 00:39:48
That's going to be there. 00:39:53
It's all about showcasing. 00:39:55
Also local businesses that we have. 00:39:57
All the little vendors that we have are farmers market. 00:40:00
Scope project aware. 00:40:04
Gear up the alternative learning program, the CTE program. 00:40:06
And things like that. 00:40:11
Hey, what can we do? 00:40:13
Tell us what you want. We can put this in our flyer. I mean our bills. Can we put that in the bills and also on the community of 00:40:14
the event calendar? 00:40:19
Get that done and. 00:40:25
If you need a little more money for posters or something, maybe get with Cheyenne. 00:40:27
And develop a poster that you might want to put it all businesses. 00:40:31
And then we can help pay for that. 00:40:34
And it's a great, great that you're doing. 00:40:36
And Miss Hope, who do you work for? 00:40:40
I don't work for anyone, I'm just a community member who wants to help the community. And how do people get in contact with you if 00:40:42
you wanted to donate and so forth, I have a community event page on Facebook. 00:40:47
They can also contact me by e-mail at Kerry Hoke 2005 at Gmail. 00:40:54
As KARIH OK E. 00:40:59
200 I want to put it on this. 00:41:03
Well, eventually, yeah. 00:41:06
Yes. 00:41:11
And if you guys know of any resources that would like to showcase their? 00:41:12
Abilities. 00:41:18
Please have them contact me. 00:41:19
Mr. Partridge, I know that your wrestling team does a lot. 00:41:21
I'd love to have him there too. 00:41:27
Umm, but that's what it's about, and I think it's one way to show that we're not dying and we are still together. 00:41:31
Uh, maybe you maybe you want to add some of that You can try maybe, yeah, we can add some of the things you just talked about. 00:41:40
You know. 00:41:46
Like, yeah, yeah. 00:41:47
Make it Yeah, I will put it on our link and our website and. 00:41:50
And we can even make some posters. We've got the ability to do that. 00:41:54
Good for you that you do and this is your. 00:41:58
4th year. Fourth year. Wow. 00:42:00
Yeah, yeah. We'll be more than happy to do that. 00:42:03
Thank you very much and I appreciate your time. 00:42:06
Anybody else? I'm not said anything on the public forum. 00:42:11
And we have ordinances. 00:42:16
For the oh and look here look like. 00:42:19
I'm glad Mr. Latrice is here. 00:42:23
Since the county Commission has kind of changed their salary structure, we thought, and this doesn't go for the sitting council or 00:42:25
the mayor. 00:42:29
Is that we're gonna try to. 00:42:33
Keep up with the county as far as salaries are concerned. 00:42:34
So this is just for publication. 00:42:37
Municipal elected official salaries. 00:42:39
And as you can see how they are and. 00:42:42
We can compare it to the county Commission and some of the county. 00:42:45
Officials. 00:42:48
But we would like to kind of. 00:42:49
Keep up with the inflation for the next section for the next. 00:42:51
Election. 00:42:55
So if ordinance #25-03-25A. 00:42:56
It's just for publication. 00:43:01
Mr. Sloane. 00:43:04
2nd so moved and seconded. 00:43:08
Discussion all in favor. 00:43:10
Right, And then there's an enemy refinance. Ruby has worked the way to try to save us some money. 00:43:13
Ruby, you want to explain that to him? 00:43:19
Yes. So going to be refinancing the USDA loans. 00:43:21
Right now there's a balance of 9,162,000. 00:43:25
And we're going to go to enemy D, so school from federal state. 00:43:29
At oh .001% so. 00:43:33
We'll be saving 3.8 million. 00:43:36
It will cost the city 182,000. 00:43:38
We do have 120 reserves so. 00:43:41
I'll take 60,000 from the revolving loan firm to pay this. So what it is is 2% of the outstanding interest which is 182,000. 00:43:44
It will cost $12,000 in interest, so. 00:43:53
I think it's best for the city to refinance those loans and go with any D and I'm asking to this is just for publication. 00:43:56
And the ordinance isn't complete, but it will be complete when we go out to vote and we're still working on the numbers. 00:44:02
And hopefully we'll close around May, maybe the second week of May. 00:44:09
That's where we're headed for. That's for publication. This is just the publication. 00:44:13
And Robbie Ruby, these are for the wastewater and the wastewater treatment plant. Yes, the wastewater collection lines and the 00:44:17
wastewater facility. So the collection lines throughout the whole city, the main lines that they did and then the. 00:44:22
Facility. 00:44:28
Facility there's a total of 4 loans. 00:44:29
2nd seconded. So all in favor, aye. Opposed. 00:44:34
Thank you Ruby. 00:44:39
And we have, you know, as you know or may not know, OSHA came down about two months ago. 00:44:41
And give us something, huh? 00:44:46
How time flies for older people, but so since August. 00:44:52
Alina and Donald and the directors have all been working on this. 00:44:57
One of the things we needed to. 00:45:02
Put together as the. 00:45:04
The city of Sakura's confined space program. 00:45:06
And that's not going to space, but it's. 00:45:09
Confined space. 00:45:11
So that's what we're going to need to have you. OK, I don't know if you read through this, but. 00:45:13
Pretty good. It kind of covers what OSHA wanted us to do and this is for people that work in. 00:45:18
Sewers and stuff like that. 00:45:23
And this is this is the final. 00:45:27
This is the final limit. 00:45:30
Yeah, sure. It's been approved or it's been reviewed by our insurance consultant that has been helping us with all the OSHA 00:45:31
processes and she said it looks good and we've covered all the bases, then I'll make a motion. 00:45:38
Second discussion. 00:45:46
All in favor. 00:45:48
OK. New business. Anything you want to ask, have some directors here? 00:45:50
Lupe, I think Marianne is thinking. 00:45:58
Hiring a. 00:46:01
Animal Protection Animal. 00:46:03
Animal Control officer. 00:46:07
So we'll add 1 to the so if you tell your committee. 00:46:09
When you guys meet that we're looking at to doing that, yes, we're going to meet sometime this month. Good. And so Luca can 00:46:12
present that. 00:46:16
And Linda, anything special from the Senior Center we get done. 00:46:19
How's your ask about the? 00:46:30
Facility and stuff through the aging. 00:46:32
Administration as far as money is concerned for the Senior Center. 00:46:36
Yeah, you are. 00:46:41
Good Lord. 00:46:44
This airline construction started quickly. 00:46:54
Also, I'd like to congratulate some of my guys. 00:46:57
Completed the fire one and fire 2. 00:47:07
Certification, so that's going to help out a lot after him. 00:47:09
Aguilar, Gabe Luna and Justin Pacheco, they completed that, so they're certified. 00:47:12
And then also I have Jason Kadir who just completed his basic EMT class and passed that, so he's. 00:47:18
He's moving on, so. 00:47:24
My group, my group is moving right along and getting who they need to get, so it's just going to help us out. Do they get a bump 00:47:26
in salary when they get every certification is like a 5%? 00:47:30
Congratulations. Good deal. 00:47:36
Mr. Matthew. 00:47:38
Come on, what's going on? You got any rodeo thing going on? 00:47:40
We had a real good weekend. 00:47:43
What's the temperature? 00:47:45
Congratulations. 00:47:53
We're putting in 40. How many? How many? 00:47:55
To put a new 30 stars coming and there already you said rented for the high school rodeo. 00:47:59
You need to advertise like a little bit. 00:48:06
More, Mr. Fleming and I were talking about that. 00:48:09
Like the I know the some of them. 00:48:13
Vendors and some business owners have talked to Mr. Fleming. 00:48:16
About maybe putting posters at their areas. 00:48:20
So they can know what's going on. 00:48:24
Get on it. Cheyenne does a fantastic job. She does. No, she's missing this one. 00:48:28
And no. 00:48:35
So, so so, so maybe make a poster of the schedule of the different events that are going to happen. 00:48:37
Yeah, that'll be good because I mean. 00:48:43
Great to get that advertised. 00:48:47
So, and I mean, it's coming along. It's, you know, I don't know, Shannon has the Convention Center rentals and stuff. 00:48:49
Good for you. Good deal. And then I know we have vendors too as well. 00:48:59
But some of the vendors or food vendors that like there was only one this weekend. 00:49:12
Go ahead, Mr. Fleming. 00:49:19
They sold everything out, correct, Steven? 00:49:22
On the first day, then there's. 00:49:26
Branching around trying to get stuff for the second day. 00:49:28
And what we got back from these two wonderful females who put this. 00:49:33
They're in their 29th year, I believe, they said. 00:49:41
Putting these barrel races on around the state. 00:49:45
And they have been so pleased with. 00:49:50
Our staff in our facility that they. 00:49:53
Now plan on putting 5 on this year. 00:49:57
Instead of two. 00:50:01
Prince Sakura. 00:50:02
So it's a. 00:50:04
How about WrestleMania, Mr. Partridge? 00:50:08
As soon as good thanks to I want to thank. We just had state high school state was last weekend and we had a departure from so we 00:50:11
had a. 00:50:15
A bunch of sirens and they took us out of here. 00:50:20
Chief and. 00:50:23
The city Socorro Police Department, State Police. 00:50:27
Everybody came together, the county sheriff's, they all came together and. 00:50:30
Let us out and then in the middle of the night, let us back in. So we woke everybody up. But because it was fun, the kids really 00:50:34
liked it. They also did it for the regional tournament, which was David Junior's request. Why? 00:50:39
I think he's a senior and he's a three times I said yeah, sure, I'll get him to do it. And they had a good one and the kids sure 00:50:46
liked it. We appreciate you guys. I know that there's more important things to do than that, but you guys sure found time to do 00:50:50
that. 00:50:54
We had three state champs. 00:50:58
Umm Isaiah Estrada was a two time state champs. David Gutierrez junior is a three time state champ. Sasha Gonzalez is a. 00:51:00
Two time growth. HM. What's really unique about Sasha is she's the entire she's the state champion of the entire state because 00:51:10
girls is 1 classification. 00:51:14
That's pretty unique for to win. That is tough and then. 00:51:18
The other boys that one are there's only two classes in. 00:51:21
In wrestling, there's 4A and 5A and there's 43 teams and 4A, so you got to be pretty damn good. 00:51:25
So we're for a in wrestling and we had some good coverage covered as well. The chief man, it's a lot of. 00:51:32
Stuff on Instagram so. 00:51:39
Next meeting I'll put them on the agenda, bring the kids in, yeah, get a take pictures with the council and stuff. But. 00:51:41
Yeah, Joe, Joe. 00:51:49
Yeah. 00:51:53
Mr. Dickon. 00:51:57
Yeah, something I was informed. 00:51:59
Last night, waiting in line at the. 00:52:03
Walmart Drugstore Steve and Carol Palmer. 00:52:06
Longtime educators here in Socorro. 00:52:11
Their grandson just won the national bow shooting competition for all college levels. 00:52:14
Congratulations to him. 00:52:23
And tell anyone else. 00:52:25
Christie, you're just shaking your head. 00:52:28
Solid. 00:52:32
Good, everybody. 00:52:35
Ruby. 00:52:36
You're OK. 00:52:38
Mr. Mayor, Mr. O'Donnell Monett, I would just like to ask the directors that come up to the microphone so we can record their 00:52:42
their comments when anytime they're addressing the Council. 00:52:48
That's Poland AI. Well, I'll get a get a get a mobile mic to give it to them that way it'd be like a. 00:52:54
Like prices right or something I guess. 00:53:00
Yeah, Thank you, Mr. Monett. They love you for that. 00:53:03
OK. All right. Nothing else. Old business, anybody? Old business. 00:53:07
I went to the legislature. 00:53:12
A few times. 00:53:14
Got a little bit of money, It's not in stone yet. 00:53:16
But it will be for the police station basically. 00:53:20
Didn't get anything profoundly. 00:53:22
Oh, great. But we're going to try to get the recreation grant that. 00:53:24
Gwen is going to be on it. 00:53:29
And uh. 00:53:31
It's just like seeing sausage being made. 00:53:33
Travis Lopez There was a bill in. 00:53:38
The house that we had to give testimony this. 00:53:41
Weekend in Santa Fe on. 00:53:46
Bringing a state Housing Authority. 00:53:49
And what they want to do is try and get more. 00:53:51
State housing vouchers, because we really don't have any. They're all federal. 00:53:56
And that way we can help more people. 00:53:59
With state housing vouchers instead of just the federal because there's not enough money, how did it go? 00:54:02
It went well. Tomorrow we're going to another one on the Senate side, so we're hoping that. Speaking of housing. 00:54:09
I just heard that the Gabaldon apartments are sold. 00:54:16
And I heard that the people living there. 00:54:20
Have to move out. 00:54:23
And and I mean. 00:54:27
I don't want to use the word eviction but. 00:54:29
I you know, I don't know. I know you're researching. 00:54:31
And that must be. 00:54:36
Money, at least. 00:54:42
And they were just asked to leave, so I know your resources are going to be stretched. 00:54:44
And I don't know if there's even any rentals in town. 00:54:49
No, and we're trying to. 00:54:52
Within the next month, we're going to start opening our wait list for those new apartments. 00:54:55
So I just, I just want to let the Council. 00:55:00
No, because if you know people that were in that. 00:55:04
I don't know how we can help them but I just heard they were just. 00:55:07
They were just asked to leave. 00:55:11
And they're not willing to work with housing or anything like that, so that's going to be hard. 00:55:13
Bertrand should have. 00:55:19
Just to finish off with the rest of the thing, I did want to thank the council. You guys have always eaten before I was here. You 00:55:23
guys have always helped with the wrestling team and I know we're going to talk about it next time. 00:55:27
The kids will come up and I'll forget to say something. I'm sure that Mayor's been like I said, he'd always traveled as much as 00:55:33
wrestle. 00:55:36
And I know the council is always checking on us and and very supportive of the wrestling program here. So I do want to thank you 00:55:39
guys because I'll forget to do it when the kids are here. 00:55:44
We'll give you next time, but thank you guys for all your stuff. Thank you for doing the work you do with them. Thank you for 00:55:48
gotten to be a big program. Mr. Mayor, Mr. 00:55:52
Everyone, your conversation about Santa Fe drugged my memory. I'd like to remind the council that the tri-county day. 00:55:55
For Socorro County, Captain County and Sierra County. 00:56:02
Is this Thursday from 6:00 to 9:00 at La Fonda? If you're able to make it. 00:56:05
And tourism will be there. The administrative staff will be there. The mayor I think will be there because we have a meeting that 00:56:13
day at 2:00. But that's a whole nother project. 00:56:18
And that's it. 00:56:23
And we're going to go into executive session. 00:56:28
Probably Miss Chavez. Lopez wants to go in there. 00:56:32
OK. Personnel changes. 00:56:37
Ryan Seifert Rena Seifert completed probation. 00:56:39
Transportation and Benjamin Davila. 00:56:43
Is a new hire at the Fire? 00:56:45
Stacey, Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Mr. Partridge, I make a motion to approve the personnel changes as presented. 00:56:48
So moved and seconded discussion all in favor. 00:56:54
Then we got ZAP Electric Adrian Pino electric contractor. 00:56:59
1258 El Tamano real that is that out? 00:57:03
Home, Christy. 00:57:07
Yeah, they were. 00:57:09
Are you? What's your name? 00:57:13
What is your name? 00:57:19
For the minute. 00:57:21
It was a home occupation permit that went through planning and zoning and. 00:57:26
Umm, they're going to use it as their Home Office, but they will be doing work off site. 00:57:31
Thank you. 00:57:36
Thank you, Paula. 00:57:37
And Chris Carrillo, I didn't even ask him for anything. But come and introduce yourself and show us your news. 00:57:39
News Your new news You know we've got problems with homes. 00:57:45
That are substandard. 00:57:50
Don't even have sewer and water. 00:57:51
They're going to bring that to you at the next City Council meeting next, I hope. What's going on out there? Yeah. 00:57:54
We just have a slight issue with some people that don't have water and they have a lot of accumulation of trash. 00:58:02
And they're just their living is not. 00:58:10
Great either I know we just had a fire not too long ago and. 00:58:13
I was started in the house. Yeah, it was, it was tough because the house was, it was, it was pretty bad and. 00:58:19
Something to work on. It is a process, but. 00:58:26
What's going on at the schools? 00:58:32
Suppose this is going good so he's got the school duty to so on on the water deal, Do they not have water because they don't have 00:58:34
the. 00:58:38
Yeah, usually that's what it is. 00:58:43
It's just a pinion area over there by the far cabin. 00:58:46
And it's it's. 00:58:50
Don't know how to attack that. 00:58:53
And he, you know, there's more than just that. There's someone on Peralta and. 00:58:55
And blue Kenyan and. 00:58:59
Far we've had them. You know the fire. 00:59:01
Fires have been everywhere because I thought it was because they didn't have. 00:59:04
Water to their house or something that they needed to. 00:59:10
A lot of times it's just that is that they don't pay it and you know they're not. 00:59:14
Doing too well SO. 00:59:20
And we've worked with them, with their utility bills, you know, we want to leave anybody without water. But even with clean out, 00:59:23
you know, the clean up. The mayor is, you know, he offers, you know, we get in there, we'll clean it for you guys and just to get 00:59:27
help. 00:59:31
Help the community. We've done that a few times. 00:59:35
Taking a backhoe and a dump trailer. 00:59:39
Loaded some stuff up so. 00:59:41
No, I appreciate that from there and everyone that helps really have a big team that helps me and. 00:59:43
I mean, I just pick everyone's brains, you know, I have. 00:59:50
Angel helps me, Lawrence, Christie, Lloyd, everyone helps out and I really appreciate it because. 00:59:53
Is that something to help you now? 01:00:00
A couple of fires that started in these homes that are. 01:00:07
But it becomes a hazard. 01:00:10
For Community. 01:00:13
And and for my for my firefighters, because it's just the fire hazard the way they. 01:00:14
We're going to bring those to you to the council. We need to do some of that because it's getting dangerous. 01:00:19
Mr. Klein. 01:00:24
These two hardworking guys have talked to them both. 01:00:26
One gentleman with the hat on. 01:00:30
Locations. 01:00:37
Right around the campus of. 01:00:39
In their housing. 01:00:42
I purchased most of those homes so long. 01:00:44
Leroy and Bullock. 01:00:48
If you look at a home right across from Brown Hall. 01:00:51
It is a mess what they have piled up in front of their house. 01:00:55
Also, if you look at the house on. 01:01:01
The north side of the campus on board. 01:01:04
There is 6 vehicles parked on the gravel in front of the house. 01:01:07
I don't know whether the head of housing is. 01:01:13
Aware of this. 01:01:17
I also have a lot of compliments to the fire department for the two fires that were set in Walmart. 01:01:19
By their customers when they were confronted. 01:01:27
In Walmart. In Walmart. 01:01:32
The trash can on the first one between the two doors. 01:01:35
And the other one was in the family bathroom. A woman was cold and walked in the start of the fire. 01:01:39
And the people at Walmart, especially those wonderful employees who are confronting everyone who's leaving. 01:01:49
They wanted to thank the fire department for. 01:01:58
Much for that quick response. 01:02:01
Also, I would also like to add, we had our first safety committee meeting last week and that went really well too, so. 01:02:04
Yeah, looking forward to that. 01:02:12
Thank you, Greg. We've got committees. 01:02:16
Mr. Sillery. 01:02:20
Meeting regard to businesses that were closed and what's going to happen to the businesses and. 01:02:22
And so we did have a discussion the committee. 01:02:28
With the owner of The Smiths building. Yeah, yeah. 01:02:31
And he had had plans to. 01:02:34
Make that, as we all know or don't know, a distribution Center for cannabis because that is his line of business. 01:02:37
There was plans that they were going to ship. 01:02:45
Get the stuff N, SE and West put big. 01:02:49
Words and roll off boxes and work like that and. 01:02:54
And. 01:02:59
Now at that time when they purchased that building, there was 35 licenses. 01:03:00
And somewhere in the process, there turned in to be 3000 licenses. 01:03:05
So at that point in time it was no longer economically viable for them to do what they had planned to do. 01:03:11
So he he wasn't real happy about the the state of. 01:03:20
The friendliness of the state of New Mexico in terms of business and and. 01:03:26
And where we want to take it. 01:03:31
He had talked to Harbor Freight about coming in and doing something there. 01:03:35
They looked at it seriously and and determined that it wasn't. 01:03:40
A viable place for them to do their business so. 01:03:45
The discussion continued on to where they were looking at maybe knocking it down and that that isn't, that was kind of where they 01:03:48
were leaning. 01:03:53
So there's a lot of things that we need to look at in order to support and when you're fighting. 01:03:58
A legislature or a kind of an anti business state? 01:04:07
Makes it very difficult to do some things to get some things running. 01:04:11
Of and moving forward. 01:04:17
So hopefully he was going to, he was willing to come in and talk to the to the administration and talk to the council. 01:04:20
And I said, well, if we decide that it's a good thing for him to do, I think it's a good thing to hear from him. 01:04:28
He has other businesses in the state. He has 1 then. 01:04:34
He had one here and they closed it down that does the cannabis and he has one on two or C that's really. 01:04:38
Doing well, he said. 01:04:45
And another one in somewhere else that's doing real well. 01:04:47
So he would be more than happy to come in and talk to us about maybe some. He said that he did speak with somebody from the city 01:04:50
about doing turning it into a Community Center sometime before and he was real. 01:04:56
Eager to work with a government agency, the the city or the county to do something with that building, He's still open for any 01:05:04
suggestions. 01:05:08
And I, and I think, you know, maybe we'll want to hear from from him in the future. 01:05:12
In addition to that, it just happened last week. 01:05:17
We had a gentleman come in. 01:05:21
I was thinking about putting together a. 01:05:23
Restaurant. 01:05:25
And kind of using these containers you know how to have. 01:05:28
Containers that they build, there's think there's one other. And he actually would give him Mr. Rodriguez's name. 01:05:31
And he called Mr. Rodriguez. 01:05:38
So maybe when I told him that the city would help him. 01:05:40
With trying to get his utilities and things like that. So we may be on the way of trying to get something in the parking lot 01:05:44
there. 01:05:48
And so we have had a conversation with. 01:05:53
With the owner. 01:05:57
So that's great that you talk to him. That's. 01:05:58
That's where we are there. 01:06:00
Well, Chris, thank you so much for your work you do. 01:06:01
Did I already do the ZAP? 01:06:04
No, we'll make a motion, Mr. Mayor, to approve the business registration. 01:06:05
All in favour, aye? 01:06:11
All right, that's it. 01:06:13
Next meeting, March the 18th. 01:06:15
6:00 I think you're going to miss 5 minutes of the speech, but. 01:06:19
State of the Union is on right now. Anybody's interested. 01:06:23
I'm recording that, Mister Mayor, if you want to stop by that. 01:06:26
E-mail that to me when you get a chance. 01:06:30