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Travis Lopez. 00:00:10
Councillor Dean. 00:00:13
Councillor Fleming. Councillor Ocampo. 00:00:14
Councillor Green, Councillor Partridge here, Councillor Romero here, Councillor Salome, we do have a call. 00:00:18
So we shall write for the Pledge of Allegiance. 00:00:27
Which is. 00:00:38
And we approve tonight's consent agenda. 00:00:48
From the second discussion all in favor. 00:00:52
And we will have the public forum. 00:00:56
That's not in the agenda. 00:00:59
Do you like to make a comment at the public forum? 00:01:02
I can't remember, it's been 1. 00:01:06
Bruce live upon well. 00:01:13
1819 agreement is what I'm asking about. Still wondered about the swim project. You said that. You said you were gonna turn the 00:01:16
board in June July. 00:01:21
You have that geodesic beautiful. Yes, we just had the pre bid meeting today. So so when are we going to dig it? 00:01:26
The money that I've heard that money is in place. Yes, I know that the engineering is in place. Yes, you know, you're a 00:01:38
contractor, you have the price that you've gotten as far as. 00:01:44
It means getting up on a ladder. But I saw your painting last year. Oh yeah, you know. 00:01:50
The problem going to be what the country is going to commit at. It's all done. I mean, that project is ready to go. It's just, you 00:01:57
know, 630 days. It's just trying to get the contractor to bid on it and trying to mobilize and we'll do it. Done. 00:02:03
Anything septic tank? Are you ready for septic tank? I can't get Subs to come back because nobody can pull the final until I can 00:02:12
get rid of wastewater. 00:02:16
For 45 days. 00:02:22
It's gonna, we had four contractors here appreciate. So no work, but we'll get bids. So once it's come in and then it's 40, five 00:02:24
days before you make a decision more or less as to who's going to get the contract. And then the timeline, I'm going to make that 00:02:32
100. But it's a process and you know, we have to get the money together and something like 15, how many? 00:02:40
Constricted knots. 00:02:50
So, but how much is the budget? 00:02:53
But we got the money. I don't know the specific timeline as to whether we finished and reach you. 00:02:58
Is there any way you need to get a thing for the environmental department maybe? 00:03:08
They're tough for septic systems. I'm more than Dave and his crew. They had to put in that specialized wastewater treatment 00:03:14
system. That's about 1520 grand. I could probably get away with a standard system that's still 8 to 10. So we're going to get you. 00:03:20
I just can't give you a date. Think it'll be next year? Six months? Yeah, six months. I mean, again, I'm just pulling a number out 00:03:27
of my head. Well, that's not for one second, one second once I get the contractor. 00:03:33
We can give you a definite timeline. 00:03:40
And so we will in Singapore. 00:03:43
The bits come in having been the contractor. Then you'll have to fit in my schedule. 00:03:46
340 days. 00:03:52
What is it we're supposed to have said in my Christmas? 00:03:54
It's gonna get in. Yeah, Just put. Yeah. But I mean, you've been away in a long time. It's a matter of trying to get the money and 00:03:58
the funds for it. OK, We'll hang in for a while longer, see what happens. I really want to put another septic. And if you need 00:04:03
something that says yeah, it's coming to the environmental department and hold on to your system, we'd be happy to provide you 00:04:08
with that. 00:04:13
Information. Thank you so much. Appreciate that. Thank you. Thank you for coming. Anyone else? 00:04:18
We've got the first ordinance, first reading of the ordinance that we we changed. 00:04:29
I'll let. 00:04:35
You tell us what we did. 00:04:38
Marianne and Peter, myself from the utility committee. We spoke with the administration and movie about the utility rates. This 00:04:42
was that we've had four or five meetings since then. We discussed what needed to be in the ordinance. The first ordinance that 00:04:51
came out had a list and a schedule of costs and increases for water, sewer and gas. 00:05:00
We as a committee thought that. 00:05:10
That that would extend for over five years. So there were slight increases every year for five years. 00:05:13
We thought of the committee that we would not be able to predict or estimate what might happen in the year, just like four years 00:05:21
ago we would have never guessed that that inflation. 00:05:29
Soared these costs that are associated with providing these services under the roof. So we held back a little bit knowing that 00:05:38
maybe in the year when inflation subsides, if it does or if it goes up. 00:05:46
You may have to increase the rates more than there was originally said on the suggested ordinance that that we sent back to have 00:05:54
it be done to, to be presented tonight. So we we know that the costs and and the ingredients that go into providing these services 00:06:03
have have gone through the roof over the last four years when the federal government injects $7 trillion into an economy. 00:06:11
That's what happens. Everything goes up and so. 00:06:21
This is no different. We regret having to do this, but our auditor has suggested and said that we did need to raise rates in order 00:06:24
to keep up with with the costs that are coming towards our city. So we as a committee sent it back and now the ordinance has some 00:06:32
wording that says that this will be looked at on a year to year basis and will be examined and hopefully I know the city and this 00:06:39
council has in the past. 00:06:47
Reduced rate for certain utilities in the past and I'm thinking that if that option comes available, we sure would like to explore 00:06:54
that option and not have the rates increase on A5 year year for a five year on A5 year term, but maybe decrease the the cost as we 00:07:03
go, whether it be for water or for sewer or for. 00:07:11
Gas. So that's kind of the summary of of our meetings. 00:07:19
We've had you know what we've learned we've done through this committee has noticed that the administration does look at. 00:07:26
Writing an equitable rate for our for our members, for our community. And so that is that is related goal. That's what they've 00:07:38
done. That's what we want to continue to do because it's easy to add 2% over the next 10 years. You know that comes after the 10 00:07:43
percent, 20%. 00:07:49
It's easy to say that needs to be not looked at, but I've learned with Ruby and her team and and the administration, they look at 00:07:55
things. They try to find alternative ways to increase. 00:08:01
Revenue to take them off of the resident. And so we've done that as well. We've looked at meter rates. 00:08:08
At a low level for the big users. And so that's also going to be going up. So if you have a big gas meter, it's going to cost you 00:08:18
more per month. 00:08:22
For the commercial use use of that meter. 00:08:27
Could I understand a motion to public this this ordinance become a motion second? 00:08:32
In a second discussion, so we'll get this published All in favor. 00:08:40
Thank you. Thank you. So we have no minor sales. We have the department. 00:08:46
And she has a guest with her local New Mexico tech students and very important topic of minor sales to for nicotine and other 00:08:52
nicotine type products. 00:08:58
Great. Well thank you so much to the mayor and city councillors and members of the general public who are here today. We really 00:09:05
appreciate your time listening to this presentation. My name is mentioned. I am the manager for No Minor Cell and I actually have 00:09:11
a volunteer with me today. As mentioned as well, he is an NM Tech student, so this is a great opportunity for him to practice 00:09:18
public speaking skills. 00:09:24
Leadership skills and also kind of shared his advocacy work as he was a former youth advocate with the involvement program. 00:09:31
Mexico, they also help with the campaign work with open yourself as well. So I'm really happy that he was able to attend last 00:09:37
minute, but I'm gonna go ahead and pass it over to him to introduce himself and keep also the presentation. I'll be here to 00:09:43
support him, answer questions and also kind of expand on anything if necessary. So thank you so much. 00:09:49
I'm Daniel Radaro. I'm 18, so I'm very young still attend New Mexico Tech. I just started two or three weeks ago, a nice campus. I 00:09:58
really like it. Sorry. Let me get my notes. So just get over your hometown a Christmas. I'm from cruises yeah. So just a little 00:10:08
bit about me. I just graduated, so I go to Tech. I was a part of a Baldwin for three years and two years on my leadership team I. 00:10:17
City councilors, increases and surrounding towns. I've also met with state legislators about topics like this. We have this thing 00:10:27
called at the Capitol where we go meet with legislators and talk to them about the problems in our communities and try to get 00:10:32
changed, of course. 00:10:37
So basically we'll have an introduction and live labor products because they're very important and how we can take action. 00:10:44
Take a look at the next slide, next slide. Thank you. OK, so in the minor style, no minor sale is an educational and advocacy 00:10:56
campaign trying to reduce the legal sale of nicotine products to minors. One of the big things is no flavors, flavors for all 00:11:03
people in to use these products to begin with invites and other products that have nicotine in them. So they're a really big 00:11:09
problem in our community. 00:11:16
So some of the campaign objectives. 00:11:24
Is to increase awareness of the. 00:11:28
Problem with illegal nicotine and product sales and access to minors within our community of flavored nicotine products is to 00:11:30
generate strong concerns in our state. So more people know about this because not everyone may know about this. And it's to build 00:11:38
support because support is really big for change. You need a lot of support to get change, of course. 00:11:45
So one thing we do want to go ahead and clarify is we're talking about commercial tobacco and not ceremonies tobacco. Those are 00:11:55
two different things. 00:11:59
Bristol tobacco is what you use, products that you would buy at, say, a gas station or ceremonial tobacco is more used in tribes 00:12:04
and Native communities as a sacred thing, so we want to make it clear that we're just talking about commercial tobacco. 00:12:13
Traditional tobacco or? 00:12:23
So who supports the Marta sale of all the which is the youth advocacy program I was a part of for two years? 00:12:26
17 for two it's a statewide movement so anyone in the state can join as their high school age and defended by the nicotine use 00:12:34
veterinary control to the health. 00:12:41
That's it. They've changed 5000 high schoolers since 2010, which is pretty cool since that's a lot of people. And then there's 00:12:48
also the adult volunteer program, which is why I'm here today. 00:12:54
The volunteer program is open to anyone in New Mexico, 18 up and has there have been 60 volunteers trained since fall 2018. 00:13:01
So why care about protecting youth from the dangers of mixing products? 00:13:12
They're a feature of our world. Keeping them safe and protected is pretty important. Without them, no future. And I also think 00:13:18
that the people surrounding them may not want to be using these products also are affected because. 00:13:25
It's really toxic in communities and also not very good for the people who use them to begin with. So I think it's important to 00:13:32
protect the youth. I joined A Baldwin, one of the youth high school programs was because I cared about my sister. I wanted to kind 00:13:39
of protect her for using these products. And she's much younger than me. And I found it very important that fighting for change 00:13:47
was helping her and other people I may know that are young. 00:13:54
So the issue is predatory marketing and scanning tobacco use is. 00:14:03
OK. Oh, it's one of the leading preventable causes of death, but it is in New Mexico. 00:14:09
9 out of 10 E cigarettes users like use flavored products, which is really huge. So that means we have 1:00 and 10:00 and we 00:14:18
don't, but 9 out of 10 do, which is very concerning because that's how people get used to these products as using flavors as 00:14:24
things like that. 00:14:30
More than 2.1 million youth who currently using cigarettes. That's how many people this was taken out of for the 9 out of 10. 00:14:40
And there's always new flavors, new appeals to people within these products. So flavors are always changing. Most of the flavors 00:14:51
are fruits or like candies or snacks, much sweet things. It's kind of, it's kind of crazy the kind of flavors you find in these 00:14:55
products. 00:15:00
One of the big things is HealthEquity. 00:15:08
So tobacco companies like to target minorities like black smokers or Hispanics. Also LTBTQ since they're more influenced by things 00:15:11
like this. 00:15:17
People who use these products can be like, wow, other people use them, I want to fit in, so they start using these, but they're 00:15:25
not very good for them. So it's kind of not good that they should be targeted. And also one of the last flavors used in. 00:15:32
Oh, Netball is one of the last livers found in cigarettes and stuff. So instead of just normal cigarettes and those glass they 00:15:44
were they're trying to push for a restriction on it, but the FDA is taking a long time and pushed it back. I think yes, yes, they 00:15:50
pushed it back on their like things to change. So you can't really do that except get more support and keep telling them, hey, we 00:15:57
will change. 00:16:03
OK, so the FDA submitted both to restrict manufacturing, distribution and wholesale of all mental flavoured cigarettes and all 00:16:12
flavored cigars. But this has taken years to go into effect and still taking time to go into effect because it hasn't been passed 00:16:18
yet. But we still need support. 00:16:25
We still need support for these changes and stuff like that. Take action. 00:16:33
OK, today we have support cards if you want to say hey. 00:16:42
It's pretty cool and they want change and you agree with what we're saying. You have these support cards I can that you want to 00:16:48
help and it's kind of it's like when we talk to like legislators and stuff that people do want change in our communities all over 00:16:54
the state. 00:17:00
I'll be in touch with probably to make sure that you know, that's fine and I can collect it from you all right now, but I'm 00:17:38
passing out to you. 00:17:41
Yeah. Diego, are you, are you seeing that the state can pass laws or does it have to be federal laws to do this? 00:17:48
So. 00:17:58
Obviously the federal level, state level and local level, we cannot pass laws at the local level due to preemption, but we can't 00:18:02
pass up the state just how we go into the state legislators. Certain types of tobacco, yes, I know, Councillor Parker County 00:18:10
Prevention Coalition presented. 00:18:18
On the council and we do a presentation on just very simple thinking they vapes and how it affects the brain and what the effects 00:18:27
of them on it. And then the predatory is very similar and we we introduce this into the school. So there's some collaborative 00:18:33
opportunity there for us to utilize it and give each other usage. myself and I could choose information, but they'll be going to 00:18:39
try and we coach kids too, so. 00:18:45
Total complicated kids, something different, so you can see what the effects it has on the kids now to leave physical. You could 00:18:52
tell them like it does this or or if it changes their mood or that there's a lot of effects in it typically. So I'm definitely 00:18:59
support the Fr Are you guys local? You guys support like a are you a grant hand support? We're actually we're actually in the 00:19:07
entire state of New Mexico. So with these moments, we are normally at 16 partner schools across the state. 00:19:14
And then when we do camping efforts like this where we speak with local elected officials, we we can pretty much go in there. So 00:19:22
yeah, we're trying to touch everything city that we can, absolutely. 00:19:28
Program. Thank you. 00:19:35
Refunded by the New Mexico Department of Health. There's a program called the Nicotine Use Prevention and Control Program. And so 00:19:38
that's where we receive all of our people as much of the compromise nicotine settlement or it's supposed to. 00:19:44
And I'm more than happy to sign this. As a physician, I think it's really important that we have our children protected from any 00:19:52
nicotine products, but especially flavored. And I would be in favor put together a resolution that with the City Council will vote 00:19:58
on to present that also to the state, that city of support will be behind that. 00:20:04
That would be amazing. I know Donald isn't like resolutions but. 00:20:11
Also supports the protection of our children from digits of flavor nicotine that's simple and achieve to you and all getting calls 00:20:19
about Niners buying from article stores nicotine products. 00:20:26
OK. But I think that's you know, but I'm not sure who forces that is there in local state, ATF type of thing? There is an 00:20:38
enforcement I guess agency would call it, it's with the ABC. 00:20:46
That's where at the moment. But they have control. Yeah, yes they do. And they have a task force. 00:20:57
That comes out and checks for enforcement of licenses and making sure they're not selling some items. I believe they are trying to 00:21:05
expand that a bit recently because it's hard to catch everyone. So hopefully that comes into effect very soon. 00:21:12
The vaping in our community had actually gone down a little bit. According to the polls. It's gone down. It's meant more and it's 00:21:21
a couple of percent down. That's based upon like 3300 people surveyed. So we have seen it was on the object during the COVID 00:21:29
pandemic and then it seems to be trending down recently. But I think that a lot of it is only. 00:21:37
You know, so we see a lot, you know, it's not good stuff for sure. You can bring that resolution up that way. We'll have everybody 00:21:46
who for this and try to get that passed. Awesome. And we're going to be at the legislative session here too. So we'll be right 00:21:52
there with you telephone and. 00:21:57
Perfect. So we're proactive in our next important Diego, you're doing a great job. Perhaps you know the scope, you can try to get 00:22:08
involved with them also, yes. 00:22:12
Thank you very much. Thank you so much. We appreciate it. Thank you. 00:22:20
We met with our engineers at the airport and we'll put together A5 year improvement plan. So if don't want to give us some 00:22:28
background as to what we're doing. 00:22:33
Initially. 00:22:40
That might be nice to cope on this, but initially we wanted to be still working on the snow removal building. They're only funding 00:22:41
a portion of it. The first time we did it, we got no bids. So now the bid will include a new hangar, which the state is funding. 00:22:49
They wanted to repave the East West runway which I think is 1533. 00:22:58
624. 00:23:05
Isaac said no, there's not as much traffic on that one, so he had to move up the north-south. That's easier for me to remember. 00:23:07
One way, yes, every year the just like we do for all the city projects, the airport's required to fill out an ICIP. 00:23:13
Which is a vision for the future and the projects we'll have. 00:23:20
And so, you know, that's external and we just have to find the contractors to do the work. But that's just, that's just a 00:23:25
discussion to let you know where we're at. 00:23:30
Questions about. 00:23:35
Could question the airport, but this is a perfect example about how long things might take to get projects done. Like the 00:23:37
gentleman was here earlier and that project started a long time ago, but that was at the end of it. So you know, this is a 5 year 00:23:45
plan. So it's taken us a while and it takes a while to get these projects done. And the airport is very active, you know, for the 00:23:52
city air patrol and and the glider program they've done. 00:23:59
Kids and that'll come from all around the state. They had AI think about a month ago or two months ago, they had a group of about 00:24:08
250 students at Tech that they were recognizing for the Silver Patrol. So that's been a, so it's a good, good project out there at 00:24:14
the airport. The big thing, and you know how much the council wants to weigh in on this. Do you want to change the meetings to 00:24:20
once a month? 00:24:26
Mr. Gocompa. 00:24:35
Yeah, discussion with a couple of them. 00:24:37
Council members and even past council members and I kind of I like the two meetings and not just me personally. 00:24:41
Like I'm more up to date and more informed about some of the projects and stuff that I'm not involved with directly and I never go 00:24:48
along with it. Also in two meetings and models. Good for me. 00:24:55
Same for me, just give me something I just would like a much practice of this and understanding the process from being selfishly 00:25:03
just to get the grasp on it. So I would like to defend the month is good for me. 00:25:08
Thank. I think 2 * a month. I mean this year we did the summer months. I thought, you know, once a month over the summer made 00:25:15
sense because we have a whole lot going on as long as our budget was in. But yeah, I prefer the two. Twice a month, OK, But I 00:25:20
suggest we can get a meeting. 00:25:26
Like a wrestling game. 00:25:33
How you get to Carnegie College Practice practice. 00:25:37
I'm supposed to participate in the meetings through my phone, is that still? 00:25:43
They have not changed Open Meetings Act since COVID and during COVID they allowed remote access. And when the discussion was 00:25:53
brought up earlier in the summer, I brought up, I wrote up another resolution to amend our rules of procedure in case you wanted 00:26:01
to make it that not because you don't have to follow that section of the Open Meetings Act as a council. 00:26:09
You vote on your own rules of procedure to make a mandatory in person meetings. 00:26:18
I'm not really. I just think it causes a little bit of problem with the floor of what's going on in the meeting and then you don't 00:26:24
get the benefit of the presentation. That's my own thing. 00:26:30
And there's always a delay. So we've already moved on. And that person on the phone is still, that's not my concern. So I, you 00:26:37
know, I don't think anybody wants them to get rid of it, but I think it's should be infrequent. You're saying it should be drone 00:26:41
abuse. 00:26:46
OK, so it is twice for the next meeting in two weeks from today, the 17th of 17, Okay. 00:26:53
Mr. O'Connell, Mr. Mayor, I've got a lot of discussions. I'm sure all of you guys have to maybe just about housing coming up. And 00:27:04
I do know we have at least one local children That's that's really pushing up, you know, I want to say seven or eight homes that 00:27:11
that are going up soon. I don't, I don't, I don't know if he's pulled any permits with the city or not, but I couldn't make the 00:27:18
city. He doesn't know what it meant with the utility, but we don't give. 00:27:26
That's just out of state. 00:27:33
Yeah, that's great. So, you know, I just, if we can maybe revisit that and I know we've talked in the past because we've had 00:27:36
outside builders come in and say, hey, here's what I need. I need APC and D And a lot of times they want things done before 00:27:43
they're willing to come and build, but they're not willing to sign that dotted line saying we'll build here. And you know, we have 00:27:49
local guys doing that. I don't know what's maybe I'm getting into this, but I don't know. 00:27:56
Benefits of that we can offer like local builders or even even fairly local builders to come down and, and put up some homes. 00:28:03
Because all I hear is there's not enough, there's not enough. And you know, if, if we can get especially some of these higher wage 00:28:10
earners to stay in town, that can really like both local economy and, and, and there's three things we've done. We've met with 00:28:16
builders, we've met with Realtors and we've met with developers. 00:28:22
We've offered them is that we would help them with utilities, we would help them to fix the roads that already exist because 00:28:30
there's two big subdivisions right now. 00:28:34
That are empty. 00:28:40
The prospect point, we met with the realtor and the owners of that property and talk to them about helping them fix their Rd. 00:28:41
there if they would start building. There's also another big empty property that belonged to Mr. Hefner at one time on the end of 00:28:47
Coulson on the other side of what Mr. Matthew used to that and they're already starting to put houses there and there's already 00:28:53
one, there's a, there's a modular home that's been brought in right across from Mr. Matthew. And then I think there's some 00:28:59
building going on. 00:29:05
Just on the map next to that, so we offer them is to help them with the roads, help them with the utilities and we'll bend over 00:29:12
backwards no matter where they're from out of town or in town to help them with getting access to our utilities. There's a webinar 00:29:19
and I'm going to be on it. But the state and this is not for going to visit for middle income housing. There are grants and some 00:29:26
loan projects that are going to be offered by the state and Britain right Now meeting. 00:29:33
With them on the webinar, I think it's on the 19th. 00:29:41
10 And that's opportunities for funding and financing. But if you have somebody that you know that wants to build the six houses, 00:29:46
we'd be more than happy to meet them and ask them what they want. We'd be more than happy to help them so you have no question 00:29:52
about it. 00:29:57
Just to pick it back up with coach Accountable said that I was in construction as a subcontractor for a long time. I think that 00:30:04
biggest hurdle I've seen is that getting houses to appraise for just the cost of building right is for X amount to get into a 00:30:12
price for you. Some people don't come down here to build. They can get the house to appraise for what you put into the home. 00:30:20
So I think that there's an issue for sure. So you know you by the law at X amount of dollars. That's great to hear that the city 00:30:28
wants to help with some of the utilities. But to do all the subcontract worker to get quality subcontract out here and build it 00:30:35
for a place where you can make a dollar on and sell it and make a dollar on this account with the way that the comps are. So I 00:30:41
didn't know that. I mean that's what the comps are. 00:30:48
Competitive number of house sells recently for X amount of dollars per square foot. 00:30:55
You can build it at X amount of dollars per square foot. It's only getting appraised by a bank at X amount of dollars per square 00:31:00
foot. Therefore people run numbers, so we can't go down there for. 00:31:05
We can't build in Socorro for a price that we can actually turn about on. So that's why we have a phone for sure. Something is 00:31:11
destination for sure. That's exactly what the builder told me today. He said that he's he's got an 88 or not maybe A7. I don't 00:31:18
quote me on that, but it was a handful of homes that he started and he said he couldn't start unless he had cash deals. 00:31:25
So those first two were cast deals and that's how he's rolling with it until it was sold, then the cops won't come out. 00:31:33
So it's a tough deal, but and that getting financed for like the construction, build, construction talk about hoops, hoops a lot 00:31:39
of people qualified for this is pretty tough. So yeah, there's definitely an initiator that we need to address, but. 00:31:49
It's it's jobs, income and that depth. Well, you know, smile and it just built a house. So how did how did you do that? Did you 00:32:00
have to get some sort of a base price before we could get the loan? Yes, Sir, had to get a pre construction appraisal. 00:32:09
And $200 a square foot, $250 square foot or how did they decide that? 00:32:20
Came in about 168 a square foot but I probably spent heck of a lot more than that building so did the ash would have was and they 00:32:28
get their own people to get it appraised. No Sir, I did not yes Sir, you have to get somebody from out of town or. 00:32:36
I mean 165 is used to be you could build a nice house, but there's no way to build a house for $165 square foot anymore. The 00:32:47
appraised value that wasn't the construction cost. 00:32:53
So how does the how does the bank work with that? 00:33:00
Is not accept what it's going to cost, no. 00:33:03
They'll only use the embrace price and they offer you financing a percentage of that. So you still have to have some cash down. So 00:33:07
that's that they can do everything in house. So like the big builders embrace those or anything. They have all the subcontractors 00:33:14
and they're buying in bulk. So they don't have minimal if you want the cities to secure land and residential areas when they can 00:33:22
build and they looks like you presented getting the utilities for cheap and they're doing. 00:33:29
Big markets and they build it and then they offer in house financing. They already have it in working and there's no they cut the 00:33:37
military, there's no making 6% on the sale. Just walk into the model home, buy a home right from them. So you know there's a lot 00:33:44
of fact that it's trimmed in those markets that we still have to still have here. When you look at the boxes, the belt on the east 00:33:52
side of the Interstate in Los Lunas, I mean it's just a whole subdivision just put up and it's all one builder that's done that. 00:33:59
Mr. Mayor, we did. We don't put the out of town pleasure. We discussed it, said family have to mobilize once. You know, build 7 00:34:08
houses in one shot, it's a lot more than building 1 waiting the year, building another one waiting. Just get them all done once. 00:34:15
Is it just not the good? So let's see what this webinar says about trying to help finance a builder and a developer to come in to 00:34:23
do that because they they don't want to take a bath and become, you know, not be able to sell the others. 00:34:29
10:00 I'll leave out to you in the morning or tonight. Other things you just to know is a lot of this and what the state 00:34:36
requirements for excavation to build like to property buildings you have to go down to to 8 feet. 00:34:44
Excavating the caliche excellent you're looking at $30,000 dirt pant just like concrete if you follow the guidelines instead yeah 00:34:53
let's take once so that so it's it's a tough thing coming down I don't understand trials and tribulations of the of the building 00:35:00
that didn't realize that I mean, you know we we've been offered to talk about we had a lot of come in and we're just getting a 00:35:06
survey for men on the other side of the video complex. 00:35:13
And so, and that's our luck. That's good. It's solid luck. 00:35:21
And and kind of go together with a builder and the developer to develop that property into a subtype and so we still haven't heard 00:35:25
back my mind of assuming that. 00:35:30
We told them that we would work for them and. 00:35:37
You know, give them the ability to build on this land that it pays back overtime. And there's a thing called the TDD district, 00:35:40
attached district that you can tax the area that they're building on roads and things like that. And then so we offer them that. 00:35:48
So we haven't heard back from them. You know what I mean? We're still kind of in a backwater zone here as far as Mushroom. 00:35:57
That big subdivision that went up, they're not terrific houses. They're interested by the church and they it went up. 00:36:06
In six months. 00:36:12
And the $300,000 because they're pretty cookie cutter college, but we can't get anybody to come and do that. And if you look at 00:36:14
the real estate market in Socorro, there's three houses for sale, that's it. And they're all at about 150 to $200 a square foot or 00:36:20
1800 dollars, 1800 square foot houses. And I think they've signed up for like 250 or something. There's one on the hill up there 00:36:27
on the high school they're selling for 600. 00:36:33
On this kind of like a California penthouse, but that's the inclusion 3 houses. 00:36:40
For today, there's no rentals either and I stopped running books, put up a couple of buildings and which is great for the city. If 00:36:45
you could get somebody to build more rentals, that's another problem that well, we see what the webinar says. It's a very 00:36:51
important thing. 00:36:57
The two things that the VLA who has got a billion dollar project for the next 10 years for the VLA said to us is housing and 00:37:03
schools. And so and the housing is number one for people that are going to come and they got another 200 people that are going to 00:37:09
come in late and. 00:37:15
That's all the 10 years and there's no housing, so they want that. That's totally the same thing. We met with the president of 00:37:21
tech and we're trying to do a thing together with tech to build a spec house at least so that if we can get a professor to move 00:37:28
it, that will start a chain reaction as we haven't done anything with that yet. But professor is about 20% of the population that 00:37:35
works at tech commutes that commute from Los Lunas to and like you said, they're not paying jobs so. 00:37:42
Even have vans that come every day. 00:37:49
So, you know, that's not just happening. That's the wife, children or I think I have to talk to the principal, she said. 00:37:52
40 to 50% of the teachers that teach it at high school are commuting and some of them will bring their kids to go to school here. 00:38:03
So, so that that that you got teachers, you got doctors, you got professors and you got just regular people in the one housing. 00:38:09
There's a question of how do you get the get the to come to start the the other. The alternative is and I, I know some people here 00:38:15
on the. 00:38:22
Council have looked at that. He's looking at the houses that are just sitting empty. If you could just rehab those. 00:38:29
There's a bunch of houses in the town. 00:38:36
Somebody could do that. So, but that's a big problem. I think some of the other business so that I want to bring up. I've had 00:38:41
probably the biggest topic here in the last two weeks has been bugs. 00:38:47
That's the biggest topic from people calling me, put it on Facebook and complaints about loose dogs, and I know that the chief has 00:38:54
been working on that. 00:38:59
But he's been working on that. We're limited as to our personnel and trying to get dogs and they usually are coming out at night. 00:39:05
There's some pit bulls and others, some Chihuahuas just down the street from them that are just. 00:39:13
They're not dangerous until. 00:39:20
Keep walking along and your ankles, but I would encourage the public if you have animals, make sure that you have control of them. 00:39:22
We are going to start our aggressive and taking animals, but that's not the biggest topic that I've heard here. Like I said, last 00:39:29
two or three years, it's it's animals. What would be the what would be the process for for someone in the community if they're 00:39:36
having issues that I know I personally have issues with a couple of dogs that are coming out at night. 00:39:43
Have them on camera and everything, but what would be the process if somebody wants, if they are coming out at night, how do you 00:39:50
go about it? Well, you don't even have plans. Offer if you've got pictures of them, send them to me or you'll pay and I'll ask 00:39:55
them to come out at night and go for them because you know they they will create 5 minutes and they will end up as the city police 00:40:00
gets called and they're kind of complicit going on. 00:40:05
And you know, so, so if you have pictures, you can identify the dogs or if you can identify where they might be coming from, I'll 00:40:13
have their animal control. People thought that would be the process, but just, you know, like I'm pretty active on Facebook. 00:40:19
Again, you can just messenger me and, and, or just. 00:40:25
And hold a City Hall. You'll be following through though and finding these colors and that sort of thing. Find owners. We've taken 00:40:31
animals away and we have to do it. And I have to say that the judge has been helping us on that. So there have been fines, I mean, 00:40:39
to the point of $300.00. Somebody had a dog and they had to be tipped. So we are doing what it says. It's a slow process, so. 00:40:47
We will. 00:40:56
It's been very good at following up on that. It's just that we only have like 3 people, that's it. 00:40:58
Seems like the patient has just gone a little bit more than it has been in the past so that we can. 00:41:05
But please, if you let me know, let City Hall now. 00:41:13
People are having trouble with animal control because they don't ask you the phone after fight and everything. So certainly in the 00:41:18
morning if you have pictures, then you can try to track your labs. I'm going to tell the public that that's what we're going to 00:41:23
do. We're not going to go ahead and strike themselves about it. I'm more more aggressively and people can say, well, it's my 00:41:29
daughter, but the dog is loose. That's not good for public. 00:41:35
I hope so. 00:41:45
Mr. 00:41:46
Sydney. 00:41:51
This is some of the time and talk to me. He said if I can bring something up the whole course she gets there that if there would 00:41:53
be any consideration for the parking rec department to consider utilizing those if they're not being given by that funnels for 00:42:00
like the ******** that these compost to me. I know it's kind of an odd thing, but it's infinite. My girlfriend behind this thing 00:42:08
and my kid in this one area that is lit up and that they can go and hang out with the most of them but you can't. 00:42:15
We thought about putting ******** out there. The question is whether they you know. 00:42:24
If they have to. 00:42:30
They bring their own boards. 00:42:39
Somebody wants to rejuvenate the since Mr. Zamora, he was a. 00:42:48
There's lots of pits out there, so if he wants to get get with me, if he wants to get with anybody knows how to get ahold of and 00:42:57
we can get with Noida, we can clean those up and we can make it into a certain areas where we can do the corn open. 00:43:03
That would be great. 00:43:11
Any other new business? 00:43:13
I guess a great time is to be had at the County Fair and we had a good time. Everything went well, Chief. There was no major 00:43:15
incidents with all the beer drinking and the dancing and the rodeoing. That's great. I heard it was a full house. 00:43:24
So that was a good event and that support festival. 00:43:38
Which is at 14th, I think the 14th December 14th, 13th, 14th. So that's that's another big bad coming up and. 00:43:43
The industrial. 00:43:55
That's I was talking to Mr. Capsule a while ago and and. 00:43:59
We are. 00:44:05
I don't know if you saw the letter to the editor. 00:44:07
From one of the trustees. 00:44:11
And his comic was that if we could get solar field that would generate electricity cheaper and then put that into the grid, that 00:44:14
would help decrease everybody's prices. And as a compromise, and I'm going to I'm going to write this up and I think I mentioned 00:44:20
that the other day is as a compromise. If the court or the city and allowing us to build a solar there's there's there's 00:44:27
availability of grants that are really. 00:44:33
Quite healthy. I mean we'll talk about millions, a million perhaps. And if we did the, if we did the solar field and solar the 00:44:41
electricity. 00:44:45
To the coop. 00:44:50
At a discounted rate. 00:44:53
Then I think we could both compromise. So that's where we're at right now. The other alternative is, I don't know if you know 00:44:56
this, but the Coop accused the city of eating something from them illegitimately. 00:45:03
Tickle and they filed a threat to files and so the other alternative is okay, Well, if you if you think we're taking, we're not 00:45:13
going to take it. Nothing. Let's get it appraised and we'll pay you for what you think we're taking. 00:45:19
But so I'll present that to the council next meeting to see if it's OK for me to present it to the court mode because I don't want 00:45:27
to just do it on my own. Have you seen 100%? And I think we just had an inquiry about more grants for the solar. 00:45:34
As working on that, they just sent process, they just needed some more information. So but but if we could get together with the 00:45:43
coop and utility and of course tri-state has to agree on allowing us to sell that electric to the core grid, 40% of we could 00:45:50
possibly it could be. And if we could get grants of it for nothing, then all that's gravy and we can pass that on to the consumer. 00:45:57
So that that's where I met on that right now, frankly, the industrial park. 00:46:04
Leg itself. 00:46:12
We can't get free solar. We can't do it. It's too expensive. I mean, that can't be done. And I'm just saying that up front that, 00:46:14
you know, the the three alternatives send you. 00:46:19
Stir. It didn't. Oh, yeah. Did you send that to me? We asked for it. We haven't seen it yet. Yeah, we got to, we got to get that 00:46:26
to the council. But he gave us he gave us 3 alternatives. One promised to fund it. Through this regular process, we've been losing 00:46:34
about a million and a half. 00:46:41
The other ones just try to fund it partially, but granted partially we still need money. If we got nothing, if we got solar for 00:46:49
the grants that we're looking for, we could actually be making money. And and so we're still, we're still on that, on that 00:46:56
direction. But again, I think in order to make a compromise and we could be the solar field for the coop and put that into their 00:47:02
grid and their their substation. 00:47:08
And I think we would probably have because the whole idea was to decrease the rates. That's the whole idea. 00:47:15
And if there is free money out there to build a solar, we'd like to, we'd like to go get it so that we come to that. On the other 00:47:20
alternatives to get the system appraised. Have we said, well, if you think we're taking that for you, we're not going to do it for 00:47:25
nothing because they put a price of 50 million on it. I don't think it equated for that, but they depreciated it over 30 years 00:47:31
already. But we'll get it, look it up, we'll get it up late and say, OK, we're going to take it because it's on our family, we can 00:47:37
get them off. 00:47:43
Money for it, promotion that's the other author the word start rolling saying that they accused of accused us of taking it, which 00:47:49
I assume was they thought we were just going to take it for nothing. And then they said what the price on it is 50 million. What 00:47:56
that's what we're going to debate is what the price is. So that that's what we said. 00:48:03
Anything else? 00:48:14
OK. 00:48:16
Before we go on to that, OK. 00:48:39
So that's not OK. Now you're still on. 00:48:51
The job descriptions Again, this is to keep our. 00:48:58
Keep current employees from deserting us and keep a competitive We have the fire, the captain of the fire department, the Fire 00:49:01
Chief. 00:49:05
The firefighter recruit, firefighter EMT and Lieutenant and there is a spreadsheet with the changes that are proposed. 00:49:11
I think. 00:49:25
Mr. Solomon, make a motion. 00:49:27
Discussion. 00:49:33
OK. So we're going to personnel changes, we've got a lot and I got to tell you that we didn't get a response from the county about 00:49:38
firefighters and we may be able to get them to finance. 00:49:43
That would help us then expand our system so that we can't cover and that we're not going to leave the city uncovered when we take 00:49:50
a transfer or we have to go to Bagita. So we're almost there. Hopefully we can get an MO U to do at the next meeting for the 00:49:56
meeting after that. 00:50:01
But you've got firefighters that start from the chief. 00:50:07
Down to. 00:50:14
Down to just a Pacheco. 00:50:17
And they're all getting a bump pulled away from the Fire Chief with almost a $60.00 an hour down to Mr. Pacheco, who is at $17.00 00:50:21
an hour. But I'm trying to work everybody up as we have with the Police Department. So it's for each one. And then then on top of 00:50:29
that, I've got gas department. 00:50:37
We've got Randy Montoya is a new pirate a 37 bank credit is moving on up to the gas and leak surveyor. Albertus Torres is a new 00:50:46
hire. But hey McDaniel additional job duty at the Municipal Court. Jose Luis Martinez completion. Jerry debarked on the mail new 00:50:53
police officer. 00:50:59
Raul Contreras promotion to operator and junior also temperate from them again. 00:51:09
I'm working towards $22.00. We're slowly doing that. We're not there yet, so listen to the personnel changes. 00:51:17
Move to 2nd. 00:51:28
OK, OK, here we go. Who is as well cannabis. All right, Zia. 00:51:30
Still a cannabis on 539 aircraft tracer steel you my neighbors were there and my farmer you guys cinder block walk around there 00:51:41
that used to belong to pat so we have take a steal here from the Zillow cannabis and Dylan Owens. Are you guys going to make us 00:51:48
yes Sir actually, if you don't mind I can get a little extra product but what the heck well I will start off by saying that if any 00:51:56
of you would like to end staff if you'd like to come to the farm for. 00:52:03
See what we're doing? Please reach out to me, let me know, and we'd be more than happy to have any of you. 00:52:11
So myself and my girlfriend Veronica purchased the property from the former partners on the my background is in licensing and 00:52:18
compliance for campus. I was past business partners, but I also helped write the the campus regulation Act and some of the some 00:52:26
rules. So we're totally compliant out there. I take the heart, but what we're doing is kind of a Co-op model. 00:52:34
We have our own farm, which is called high Maintenance. We brought on Trey and Dylan, who have a lot of growing experience that 00:52:43
running their own businesses there, which is what we're here tonight. They're both very experienced growers. So what we're doing 00:52:49
is kind of sharing our expertise with each other. Great. I mean, we've had some failures out here. 00:52:56
And gambles and all that. So we wish you the best and like I said, I'm your neighbor at the farm and to go search. This will be 00:53:04
our third year ironic and I decided to make. 00:53:08
About 3 years ago and you still have to do it in pots for now. 00:53:14
You've got plans to move to raise beds. We've changed the way we've grown to mentally friendly and to really restore native soils 00:53:22
in habitat of the when we're dealing with with salt water. 00:53:28
It's OK. 00:53:38
OK. Any questions, Mr. So I'm a little bit confused. This feels backwards to me because you're applying for a business license or 00:53:42
two of them. You obviously must have yours from way back when, but you guys are all growing already and you're manufacturing I 00:53:50
would assume on the party. Yes, we we're doing it under our license and then we're requesting is city licenses for these two 00:53:57
gentlemen. We haven't, we haven't yet. 00:54:04
For their state licenses because we need the city paperwork. So you gotta get this first and then yes. And you're already growing 00:54:12
so but under artery because we're already licensed and we've been licensed there for for several years, so. 00:54:18
Much space people will be able to continue. 00:54:26
Maintaining so fair. Just wanted to tell you that I'm your neighbor. 00:54:31
Understand. Thank you. 00:54:37
Anything this year? 00:54:43
We're just about to flower, yeah, and have as many plants out there as in previous harvest. We moved from hundreds of very large 00:54:46
1618 foot plants down to each smaller manageable plants because we're trying to grow and we're trying to grow in a way where we 00:54:53
can really regenerate the salt, regenerate the land. 00:55:01
So. 00:55:09
What's the state of the business in the state? It's very healthy credit. We're a billion dollar industry right now. 00:55:12
We've got a lot of business from Texas. I do worry a little bit when someone's Texas goes legal in probably three to five years. 00:55:19
But you've got a healthy industry. But in county, you know, it's Socorro with, with rich agricultural history here actually 00:55:26
attracted a lot of growers from around the state. So the valley up and down, believe it or not. 00:55:32
There's a lot of our types of farms. 00:55:39
Retail and Socorro. 00:55:42
I think the prices are a little high comparatively. You know, you've got down tricky prices in Socorro real estate, No, for, I'm 00:55:45
sorry, at the retail stores of cannabis stores here. 00:55:50
But that's. 00:55:57
We can look you up, Mr. Mayor. 00:56:07
And you guys are gross retailers? 00:56:10
Yeah, yes, that's not your business, but maybe you know about it. What's the story? I'll try and do Rodriguez. And you know, it's 00:56:19
a really good question. 00:56:24
I mean, we talked to her about a month ago, yes, two months ago, and he was saying that the business gotten so diffused that it's 00:56:31
gotten deluded. And and so there's no, there's not as much profit that they thought it was. That's why it opened up The Smiths. 00:56:36
And that's why that's one of our biggest albatross is sitting there in town. Yeah. And you know, I'm sleeping through their 00:56:41
members. 00:56:46
That's happened across the state. One of these larger companies, candidate real estate that they thought was going to be good for 00:56:53
their operations. And since we have open licensing, you've got a lot more businesses than the state originally thought. So yes, it 00:57:00
has diluted some of the original market, but the opportunities for new operators especially are gigantic. 00:57:07
Steve, another educator you met in Texas, I thought product could cost like it's not supposed to, but it does. I mean, it's, it's 00:57:16
like any other. 00:57:21
Or something in your, you can have a Colorado had it, everybody's going to Colorado. That's right. And in places like Summer Park, 00:57:29
for example, they're having huge maximum amount of growth down there just because of cannabis. There's a big entertainment 00:57:35
complex. 00:57:40
Order you also have towns like Jiao in far southeastern New Mexico that are moving right now because of cannabis. And it's one 00:57:48
concept of southern where they're they're having dispensary a canvas consumption lounge like games like ******* and different 00:57:55
stuff like that. So yeah, they'll have a hotel there. It's a it's a giant basically a giant dispenser. That's the first part of 00:58:02
this month. You don't get your money so. 00:58:09
Regulation coming because they're saying, hey, I'm doing this, you can't come under my property and even you can't find me. I keep 00:58:19
hearing those kinds of stories. So I'm still kind of behind the times and regulation. 00:58:25
Somebody's yes, it's more you have to upgrade as operators and certainly how they if you are a licensed producer or retailer 00:58:37
manufacturer in New Mexico. 00:58:42
You have to allow CCD on your property anytime they ask. It's not a request, it's it's something that you're required to do under 00:58:47
the Licensing Act. So if anybody's denying that that's a, that's a big issue. 00:58:53
Yeah. Can they find you another question? Yeah, but they both shut you down. This this upcoming legislative session, CCDS, the 00:59:00
Cannabis Control Division will be asking for some law enforcement powers, which as a consultant, I think is an operator, I think 00:59:07
is a very good thing. I've seen some really great stuff out there and CCD does not have the power right now. 00:59:14
To really shut down illegal operations or operations that need to be shut down immediately, you'd have to go through once more 00:59:21
crossing this currently. So we're we're we're going to see some really good changes in the arbitrary market. From my viewpoint 00:59:27
though, looking around the country what the training a lot faster than other markets would. So I think we'll have a lot of this 00:59:33
stuff for people with personal consumption. They can have plants, I guess you can have. 00:59:39
6 pence per person, or up to 12 plants per council. 00:59:46
And December Comedy Day. 00:59:49
Correct. Say craft in that specific. 00:59:56
Medical stuff. 01:00:00
That's great. Thank you so much for all that information. Again, the offer stands. If any of you would like to come out to the 01:00:07
farm and see what we're doing out there, get a little more education, we can go on for hours about this. So thanks for letting us. 01:00:14
We have a little session afterwards. 01:00:23
OK, cannabis. Michael grew up. He pressure medicine. It's an animus. 01:00:27
That's you OK for business? 01:00:37
That's just Hastings. 01:00:41
That's kind of unusual. I've never seen us approve a license for a farmer to sell his hay. 01:00:44
At the end of. 01:00:51
Setting cards and things with them. 01:00:56
Chicken Man. 01:01:09
25 bucks. 01:01:21
It's a requirement. I mean, we can see all the hate groups coming in. 01:01:24
Turn the groceries. 01:01:29
Then you've got a guy who's going to help you buy a car. 01:01:35
And tech. So this is Prince Adesis helping people by credit. That is great. That's that's that's it. Mr. Mayor, Mr. Registrations 01:01:48
is read. 01:01:54
Second, by discussion. 01:02:03
Thank you again for coming with the cannabis and we shall have a meeting on this September. September is 17 or 18, Thursday and 01:02:05
Wednesday, September. 01:02:12
Adjourned. 01:02:22
Speak to the notebooks. Yeah, Thank you. Thank you for button. 01:02:24
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Councillor Fleming. Councillor Ocampo. 00:00:14
Councillor Green, Councillor Partridge here, Councillor Romero here, Councillor Salome, we do have a call. 00:00:18
So we shall write for the Pledge of Allegiance. 00:00:27
Which is. 00:00:38
And we approve tonight's consent agenda. 00:00:48
From the second discussion all in favor. 00:00:52
And we will have the public forum. 00:00:56
That's not in the agenda. 00:00:59
Do you like to make a comment at the public forum? 00:01:02
I can't remember, it's been 1. 00:01:06
Bruce live upon well. 00:01:13
1819 agreement is what I'm asking about. Still wondered about the swim project. You said that. You said you were gonna turn the 00:01:16
board in June July. 00:01:21
You have that geodesic beautiful. Yes, we just had the pre bid meeting today. So so when are we going to dig it? 00:01:26
The money that I've heard that money is in place. Yes, I know that the engineering is in place. Yes, you know, you're a 00:01:38
contractor, you have the price that you've gotten as far as. 00:01:44
It means getting up on a ladder. But I saw your painting last year. Oh yeah, you know. 00:01:50
The problem going to be what the country is going to commit at. It's all done. I mean, that project is ready to go. It's just, you 00:01:57
know, 630 days. It's just trying to get the contractor to bid on it and trying to mobilize and we'll do it. Done. 00:02:03
Anything septic tank? Are you ready for septic tank? I can't get Subs to come back because nobody can pull the final until I can 00:02:12
get rid of wastewater. 00:02:16
For 45 days. 00:02:22
It's gonna, we had four contractors here appreciate. So no work, but we'll get bids. So once it's come in and then it's 40, five 00:02:24
days before you make a decision more or less as to who's going to get the contract. And then the timeline, I'm going to make that 00:02:32
100. But it's a process and you know, we have to get the money together and something like 15, how many? 00:02:40
Constricted knots. 00:02:50
So, but how much is the budget? 00:02:53
But we got the money. I don't know the specific timeline as to whether we finished and reach you. 00:02:58
Is there any way you need to get a thing for the environmental department maybe? 00:03:08
They're tough for septic systems. I'm more than Dave and his crew. They had to put in that specialized wastewater treatment 00:03:14
system. That's about 1520 grand. I could probably get away with a standard system that's still 8 to 10. So we're going to get you. 00:03:20
I just can't give you a date. Think it'll be next year? Six months? Yeah, six months. I mean, again, I'm just pulling a number out 00:03:27
of my head. Well, that's not for one second, one second once I get the contractor. 00:03:33
We can give you a definite timeline. 00:03:40
And so we will in Singapore. 00:03:43
The bits come in having been the contractor. Then you'll have to fit in my schedule. 00:03:46
340 days. 00:03:52
What is it we're supposed to have said in my Christmas? 00:03:54
It's gonna get in. Yeah, Just put. Yeah. But I mean, you've been away in a long time. It's a matter of trying to get the money and 00:03:58
the funds for it. OK, We'll hang in for a while longer, see what happens. I really want to put another septic. And if you need 00:04:03
something that says yeah, it's coming to the environmental department and hold on to your system, we'd be happy to provide you 00:04:08
with that. 00:04:13
Information. Thank you so much. Appreciate that. Thank you. Thank you for coming. Anyone else? 00:04:18
We've got the first ordinance, first reading of the ordinance that we we changed. 00:04:29
I'll let. 00:04:35
You tell us what we did. 00:04:38
Marianne and Peter, myself from the utility committee. We spoke with the administration and movie about the utility rates. This 00:04:42
was that we've had four or five meetings since then. We discussed what needed to be in the ordinance. The first ordinance that 00:04:51
came out had a list and a schedule of costs and increases for water, sewer and gas. 00:05:00
We as a committee thought that. 00:05:10
That that would extend for over five years. So there were slight increases every year for five years. 00:05:13
We thought of the committee that we would not be able to predict or estimate what might happen in the year, just like four years 00:05:21
ago we would have never guessed that that inflation. 00:05:29
Soared these costs that are associated with providing these services under the roof. So we held back a little bit knowing that 00:05:38
maybe in the year when inflation subsides, if it does or if it goes up. 00:05:46
You may have to increase the rates more than there was originally said on the suggested ordinance that that we sent back to have 00:05:54
it be done to, to be presented tonight. So we we know that the costs and and the ingredients that go into providing these services 00:06:03
have have gone through the roof over the last four years when the federal government injects $7 trillion into an economy. 00:06:11
That's what happens. Everything goes up and so. 00:06:21
This is no different. We regret having to do this, but our auditor has suggested and said that we did need to raise rates in order 00:06:24
to keep up with with the costs that are coming towards our city. So we as a committee sent it back and now the ordinance has some 00:06:32
wording that says that this will be looked at on a year to year basis and will be examined and hopefully I know the city and this 00:06:39
council has in the past. 00:06:47
Reduced rate for certain utilities in the past and I'm thinking that if that option comes available, we sure would like to explore 00:06:54
that option and not have the rates increase on A5 year year for a five year on A5 year term, but maybe decrease the the cost as we 00:07:03
go, whether it be for water or for sewer or for. 00:07:11
Gas. So that's kind of the summary of of our meetings. 00:07:19
We've had you know what we've learned we've done through this committee has noticed that the administration does look at. 00:07:26
Writing an equitable rate for our for our members, for our community. And so that is that is related goal. That's what they've 00:07:38
done. That's what we want to continue to do because it's easy to add 2% over the next 10 years. You know that comes after the 10 00:07:43
percent, 20%. 00:07:49
It's easy to say that needs to be not looked at, but I've learned with Ruby and her team and and the administration, they look at 00:07:55
things. They try to find alternative ways to increase. 00:08:01
Revenue to take them off of the resident. And so we've done that as well. We've looked at meter rates. 00:08:08
At a low level for the big users. And so that's also going to be going up. So if you have a big gas meter, it's going to cost you 00:08:18
more per month. 00:08:22
For the commercial use use of that meter. 00:08:27
Could I understand a motion to public this this ordinance become a motion second? 00:08:32
In a second discussion, so we'll get this published All in favor. 00:08:40
Thank you. Thank you. So we have no minor sales. We have the department. 00:08:46
And she has a guest with her local New Mexico tech students and very important topic of minor sales to for nicotine and other 00:08:52
nicotine type products. 00:08:58
Great. Well thank you so much to the mayor and city councillors and members of the general public who are here today. We really 00:09:05
appreciate your time listening to this presentation. My name is mentioned. I am the manager for No Minor Cell and I actually have 00:09:11
a volunteer with me today. As mentioned as well, he is an NM Tech student, so this is a great opportunity for him to practice 00:09:18
public speaking skills. 00:09:24
Leadership skills and also kind of shared his advocacy work as he was a former youth advocate with the involvement program. 00:09:31
Mexico, they also help with the campaign work with open yourself as well. So I'm really happy that he was able to attend last 00:09:37
minute, but I'm gonna go ahead and pass it over to him to introduce himself and keep also the presentation. I'll be here to 00:09:43
support him, answer questions and also kind of expand on anything if necessary. So thank you so much. 00:09:49
I'm Daniel Radaro. I'm 18, so I'm very young still attend New Mexico Tech. I just started two or three weeks ago, a nice campus. I 00:09:58
really like it. Sorry. Let me get my notes. So just get over your hometown a Christmas. I'm from cruises yeah. So just a little 00:10:08
bit about me. I just graduated, so I go to Tech. I was a part of a Baldwin for three years and two years on my leadership team I. 00:10:17
City councilors, increases and surrounding towns. I've also met with state legislators about topics like this. We have this thing 00:10:27
called at the Capitol where we go meet with legislators and talk to them about the problems in our communities and try to get 00:10:32
changed, of course. 00:10:37
So basically we'll have an introduction and live labor products because they're very important and how we can take action. 00:10:44
Take a look at the next slide, next slide. Thank you. OK, so in the minor style, no minor sale is an educational and advocacy 00:10:56
campaign trying to reduce the legal sale of nicotine products to minors. One of the big things is no flavors, flavors for all 00:11:03
people in to use these products to begin with invites and other products that have nicotine in them. So they're a really big 00:11:09
problem in our community. 00:11:16
So some of the campaign objectives. 00:11:24
Is to increase awareness of the. 00:11:28
Problem with illegal nicotine and product sales and access to minors within our community of flavored nicotine products is to 00:11:30
generate strong concerns in our state. So more people know about this because not everyone may know about this. And it's to build 00:11:38
support because support is really big for change. You need a lot of support to get change, of course. 00:11:45
So one thing we do want to go ahead and clarify is we're talking about commercial tobacco and not ceremonies tobacco. Those are 00:11:55
two different things. 00:11:59
Bristol tobacco is what you use, products that you would buy at, say, a gas station or ceremonial tobacco is more used in tribes 00:12:04
and Native communities as a sacred thing, so we want to make it clear that we're just talking about commercial tobacco. 00:12:13
Traditional tobacco or? 00:12:23
So who supports the Marta sale of all the which is the youth advocacy program I was a part of for two years? 00:12:26
17 for two it's a statewide movement so anyone in the state can join as their high school age and defended by the nicotine use 00:12:34
veterinary control to the health. 00:12:41
That's it. They've changed 5000 high schoolers since 2010, which is pretty cool since that's a lot of people. And then there's 00:12:48
also the adult volunteer program, which is why I'm here today. 00:12:54
The volunteer program is open to anyone in New Mexico, 18 up and has there have been 60 volunteers trained since fall 2018. 00:13:01
So why care about protecting youth from the dangers of mixing products? 00:13:12
They're a feature of our world. Keeping them safe and protected is pretty important. Without them, no future. And I also think 00:13:18
that the people surrounding them may not want to be using these products also are affected because. 00:13:25
It's really toxic in communities and also not very good for the people who use them to begin with. So I think it's important to 00:13:32
protect the youth. I joined A Baldwin, one of the youth high school programs was because I cared about my sister. I wanted to kind 00:13:39
of protect her for using these products. And she's much younger than me. And I found it very important that fighting for change 00:13:47
was helping her and other people I may know that are young. 00:13:54
So the issue is predatory marketing and scanning tobacco use is. 00:14:03
OK. Oh, it's one of the leading preventable causes of death, but it is in New Mexico. 00:14:09
9 out of 10 E cigarettes users like use flavored products, which is really huge. So that means we have 1:00 and 10:00 and we 00:14:18
don't, but 9 out of 10 do, which is very concerning because that's how people get used to these products as using flavors as 00:14:24
things like that. 00:14:30
More than 2.1 million youth who currently using cigarettes. That's how many people this was taken out of for the 9 out of 10. 00:14:40
And there's always new flavors, new appeals to people within these products. So flavors are always changing. Most of the flavors 00:14:51
are fruits or like candies or snacks, much sweet things. It's kind of, it's kind of crazy the kind of flavors you find in these 00:14:55
products. 00:15:00
One of the big things is HealthEquity. 00:15:08
So tobacco companies like to target minorities like black smokers or Hispanics. Also LTBTQ since they're more influenced by things 00:15:11
like this. 00:15:17
People who use these products can be like, wow, other people use them, I want to fit in, so they start using these, but they're 00:15:25
not very good for them. So it's kind of not good that they should be targeted. And also one of the last flavors used in. 00:15:32
Oh, Netball is one of the last livers found in cigarettes and stuff. So instead of just normal cigarettes and those glass they 00:15:44
were they're trying to push for a restriction on it, but the FDA is taking a long time and pushed it back. I think yes, yes, they 00:15:50
pushed it back on their like things to change. So you can't really do that except get more support and keep telling them, hey, we 00:15:57
will change. 00:16:03
OK, so the FDA submitted both to restrict manufacturing, distribution and wholesale of all mental flavoured cigarettes and all 00:16:12
flavored cigars. But this has taken years to go into effect and still taking time to go into effect because it hasn't been passed 00:16:18
yet. But we still need support. 00:16:25
We still need support for these changes and stuff like that. Take action. 00:16:33
OK, today we have support cards if you want to say hey. 00:16:42
It's pretty cool and they want change and you agree with what we're saying. You have these support cards I can that you want to 00:16:48
help and it's kind of it's like when we talk to like legislators and stuff that people do want change in our communities all over 00:16:54
the state. 00:17:00
I'll be in touch with probably to make sure that you know, that's fine and I can collect it from you all right now, but I'm 00:17:38
passing out to you. 00:17:41
Yeah. Diego, are you, are you seeing that the state can pass laws or does it have to be federal laws to do this? 00:17:48
So. 00:17:58
Obviously the federal level, state level and local level, we cannot pass laws at the local level due to preemption, but we can't 00:18:02
pass up the state just how we go into the state legislators. Certain types of tobacco, yes, I know, Councillor Parker County 00:18:10
Prevention Coalition presented. 00:18:18
On the council and we do a presentation on just very simple thinking they vapes and how it affects the brain and what the effects 00:18:27
of them on it. And then the predatory is very similar and we we introduce this into the school. So there's some collaborative 00:18:33
opportunity there for us to utilize it and give each other usage. myself and I could choose information, but they'll be going to 00:18:39
try and we coach kids too, so. 00:18:45
Total complicated kids, something different, so you can see what the effects it has on the kids now to leave physical. You could 00:18:52
tell them like it does this or or if it changes their mood or that there's a lot of effects in it typically. So I'm definitely 00:18:59
support the Fr Are you guys local? You guys support like a are you a grant hand support? We're actually we're actually in the 00:19:07
entire state of New Mexico. So with these moments, we are normally at 16 partner schools across the state. 00:19:14
And then when we do camping efforts like this where we speak with local elected officials, we we can pretty much go in there. So 00:19:22
yeah, we're trying to touch everything city that we can, absolutely. 00:19:28
Program. Thank you. 00:19:35
Refunded by the New Mexico Department of Health. There's a program called the Nicotine Use Prevention and Control Program. And so 00:19:38
that's where we receive all of our people as much of the compromise nicotine settlement or it's supposed to. 00:19:44
And I'm more than happy to sign this. As a physician, I think it's really important that we have our children protected from any 00:19:52
nicotine products, but especially flavored. And I would be in favor put together a resolution that with the City Council will vote 00:19:58
on to present that also to the state, that city of support will be behind that. 00:20:04
That would be amazing. I know Donald isn't like resolutions but. 00:20:11
Also supports the protection of our children from digits of flavor nicotine that's simple and achieve to you and all getting calls 00:20:19
about Niners buying from article stores nicotine products. 00:20:26
OK. But I think that's you know, but I'm not sure who forces that is there in local state, ATF type of thing? There is an 00:20:38
enforcement I guess agency would call it, it's with the ABC. 00:20:46
That's where at the moment. But they have control. Yeah, yes they do. And they have a task force. 00:20:57
That comes out and checks for enforcement of licenses and making sure they're not selling some items. I believe they are trying to 00:21:05
expand that a bit recently because it's hard to catch everyone. So hopefully that comes into effect very soon. 00:21:12
The vaping in our community had actually gone down a little bit. According to the polls. It's gone down. It's meant more and it's 00:21:21
a couple of percent down. That's based upon like 3300 people surveyed. So we have seen it was on the object during the COVID 00:21:29
pandemic and then it seems to be trending down recently. But I think that a lot of it is only. 00:21:37
You know, so we see a lot, you know, it's not good stuff for sure. You can bring that resolution up that way. We'll have everybody 00:21:46
who for this and try to get that passed. Awesome. And we're going to be at the legislative session here too. So we'll be right 00:21:52
there with you telephone and. 00:21:57
Perfect. So we're proactive in our next important Diego, you're doing a great job. Perhaps you know the scope, you can try to get 00:22:08
involved with them also, yes. 00:22:12
Thank you very much. Thank you so much. We appreciate it. Thank you. 00:22:20
We met with our engineers at the airport and we'll put together A5 year improvement plan. So if don't want to give us some 00:22:28
background as to what we're doing. 00:22:33
Initially. 00:22:40
That might be nice to cope on this, but initially we wanted to be still working on the snow removal building. They're only funding 00:22:41
a portion of it. The first time we did it, we got no bids. So now the bid will include a new hangar, which the state is funding. 00:22:49
They wanted to repave the East West runway which I think is 1533. 00:22:58
624. 00:23:05
Isaac said no, there's not as much traffic on that one, so he had to move up the north-south. That's easier for me to remember. 00:23:07
One way, yes, every year the just like we do for all the city projects, the airport's required to fill out an ICIP. 00:23:13
Which is a vision for the future and the projects we'll have. 00:23:20
And so, you know, that's external and we just have to find the contractors to do the work. But that's just, that's just a 00:23:25
discussion to let you know where we're at. 00:23:30
Questions about. 00:23:35
Could question the airport, but this is a perfect example about how long things might take to get projects done. Like the 00:23:37
gentleman was here earlier and that project started a long time ago, but that was at the end of it. So you know, this is a 5 year 00:23:45
plan. So it's taken us a while and it takes a while to get these projects done. And the airport is very active, you know, for the 00:23:52
city air patrol and and the glider program they've done. 00:23:59
Kids and that'll come from all around the state. They had AI think about a month ago or two months ago, they had a group of about 00:24:08
250 students at Tech that they were recognizing for the Silver Patrol. So that's been a, so it's a good, good project out there at 00:24:14
the airport. The big thing, and you know how much the council wants to weigh in on this. Do you want to change the meetings to 00:24:20
once a month? 00:24:26
Mr. Gocompa. 00:24:35
Yeah, discussion with a couple of them. 00:24:37
Council members and even past council members and I kind of I like the two meetings and not just me personally. 00:24:41
Like I'm more up to date and more informed about some of the projects and stuff that I'm not involved with directly and I never go 00:24:48
along with it. Also in two meetings and models. Good for me. 00:24:55
Same for me, just give me something I just would like a much practice of this and understanding the process from being selfishly 00:25:03
just to get the grasp on it. So I would like to defend the month is good for me. 00:25:08
Thank. I think 2 * a month. I mean this year we did the summer months. I thought, you know, once a month over the summer made 00:25:15
sense because we have a whole lot going on as long as our budget was in. But yeah, I prefer the two. Twice a month, OK, But I 00:25:20
suggest we can get a meeting. 00:25:26
Like a wrestling game. 00:25:33
How you get to Carnegie College Practice practice. 00:25:37
I'm supposed to participate in the meetings through my phone, is that still? 00:25:43
They have not changed Open Meetings Act since COVID and during COVID they allowed remote access. And when the discussion was 00:25:53
brought up earlier in the summer, I brought up, I wrote up another resolution to amend our rules of procedure in case you wanted 00:26:01
to make it that not because you don't have to follow that section of the Open Meetings Act as a council. 00:26:09
You vote on your own rules of procedure to make a mandatory in person meetings. 00:26:18
I'm not really. I just think it causes a little bit of problem with the floor of what's going on in the meeting and then you don't 00:26:24
get the benefit of the presentation. That's my own thing. 00:26:30
And there's always a delay. So we've already moved on. And that person on the phone is still, that's not my concern. So I, you 00:26:37
know, I don't think anybody wants them to get rid of it, but I think it's should be infrequent. You're saying it should be drone 00:26:41
abuse. 00:26:46
OK, so it is twice for the next meeting in two weeks from today, the 17th of 17, Okay. 00:26:53
Mr. O'Connell, Mr. Mayor, I've got a lot of discussions. I'm sure all of you guys have to maybe just about housing coming up. And 00:27:04
I do know we have at least one local children That's that's really pushing up, you know, I want to say seven or eight homes that 00:27:11
that are going up soon. I don't, I don't, I don't know if he's pulled any permits with the city or not, but I couldn't make the 00:27:18
city. He doesn't know what it meant with the utility, but we don't give. 00:27:26
That's just out of state. 00:27:33
Yeah, that's great. So, you know, I just, if we can maybe revisit that and I know we've talked in the past because we've had 00:27:36
outside builders come in and say, hey, here's what I need. I need APC and D And a lot of times they want things done before 00:27:43
they're willing to come and build, but they're not willing to sign that dotted line saying we'll build here. And you know, we have 00:27:49
local guys doing that. I don't know what's maybe I'm getting into this, but I don't know. 00:27:56
Benefits of that we can offer like local builders or even even fairly local builders to come down and, and put up some homes. 00:28:03
Because all I hear is there's not enough, there's not enough. And you know, if, if we can get especially some of these higher wage 00:28:10
earners to stay in town, that can really like both local economy and, and, and there's three things we've done. We've met with 00:28:16
builders, we've met with Realtors and we've met with developers. 00:28:22
We've offered them is that we would help them with utilities, we would help them to fix the roads that already exist because 00:28:30
there's two big subdivisions right now. 00:28:34
That are empty. 00:28:40
The prospect point, we met with the realtor and the owners of that property and talk to them about helping them fix their Rd. 00:28:41
there if they would start building. There's also another big empty property that belonged to Mr. Hefner at one time on the end of 00:28:47
Coulson on the other side of what Mr. Matthew used to that and they're already starting to put houses there and there's already 00:28:53
one, there's a, there's a modular home that's been brought in right across from Mr. Matthew. And then I think there's some 00:28:59
building going on. 00:29:05
Just on the map next to that, so we offer them is to help them with the roads, help them with the utilities and we'll bend over 00:29:12
backwards no matter where they're from out of town or in town to help them with getting access to our utilities. There's a webinar 00:29:19
and I'm going to be on it. But the state and this is not for going to visit for middle income housing. There are grants and some 00:29:26
loan projects that are going to be offered by the state and Britain right Now meeting. 00:29:33
With them on the webinar, I think it's on the 19th. 00:29:41
10 And that's opportunities for funding and financing. But if you have somebody that you know that wants to build the six houses, 00:29:46
we'd be more than happy to meet them and ask them what they want. We'd be more than happy to help them so you have no question 00:29:52
about it. 00:29:57
Just to pick it back up with coach Accountable said that I was in construction as a subcontractor for a long time. I think that 00:30:04
biggest hurdle I've seen is that getting houses to appraise for just the cost of building right is for X amount to get into a 00:30:12
price for you. Some people don't come down here to build. They can get the house to appraise for what you put into the home. 00:30:20
So I think that there's an issue for sure. So you know you by the law at X amount of dollars. That's great to hear that the city 00:30:28
wants to help with some of the utilities. But to do all the subcontract worker to get quality subcontract out here and build it 00:30:35
for a place where you can make a dollar on and sell it and make a dollar on this account with the way that the comps are. So I 00:30:41
didn't know that. I mean that's what the comps are. 00:30:48
Competitive number of house sells recently for X amount of dollars per square foot. 00:30:55
You can build it at X amount of dollars per square foot. It's only getting appraised by a bank at X amount of dollars per square 00:31:00
foot. Therefore people run numbers, so we can't go down there for. 00:31:05
We can't build in Socorro for a price that we can actually turn about on. So that's why we have a phone for sure. Something is 00:31:11
destination for sure. That's exactly what the builder told me today. He said that he's he's got an 88 or not maybe A7. I don't 00:31:18
quote me on that, but it was a handful of homes that he started and he said he couldn't start unless he had cash deals. 00:31:25
So those first two were cast deals and that's how he's rolling with it until it was sold, then the cops won't come out. 00:31:33
So it's a tough deal, but and that getting financed for like the construction, build, construction talk about hoops, hoops a lot 00:31:39
of people qualified for this is pretty tough. So yeah, there's definitely an initiator that we need to address, but. 00:31:49
It's it's jobs, income and that depth. Well, you know, smile and it just built a house. So how did how did you do that? Did you 00:32:00
have to get some sort of a base price before we could get the loan? Yes, Sir, had to get a pre construction appraisal. 00:32:09
And $200 a square foot, $250 square foot or how did they decide that? 00:32:20
Came in about 168 a square foot but I probably spent heck of a lot more than that building so did the ash would have was and they 00:32:28
get their own people to get it appraised. No Sir, I did not yes Sir, you have to get somebody from out of town or. 00:32:36
I mean 165 is used to be you could build a nice house, but there's no way to build a house for $165 square foot anymore. The 00:32:47
appraised value that wasn't the construction cost. 00:32:53
So how does the how does the bank work with that? 00:33:00
Is not accept what it's going to cost, no. 00:33:03
They'll only use the embrace price and they offer you financing a percentage of that. So you still have to have some cash down. So 00:33:07
that's that they can do everything in house. So like the big builders embrace those or anything. They have all the subcontractors 00:33:14
and they're buying in bulk. So they don't have minimal if you want the cities to secure land and residential areas when they can 00:33:22
build and they looks like you presented getting the utilities for cheap and they're doing. 00:33:29
Big markets and they build it and then they offer in house financing. They already have it in working and there's no they cut the 00:33:37
military, there's no making 6% on the sale. Just walk into the model home, buy a home right from them. So you know there's a lot 00:33:44
of fact that it's trimmed in those markets that we still have to still have here. When you look at the boxes, the belt on the east 00:33:52
side of the Interstate in Los Lunas, I mean it's just a whole subdivision just put up and it's all one builder that's done that. 00:33:59
Mr. Mayor, we did. We don't put the out of town pleasure. We discussed it, said family have to mobilize once. You know, build 7 00:34:08
houses in one shot, it's a lot more than building 1 waiting the year, building another one waiting. Just get them all done once. 00:34:15
Is it just not the good? So let's see what this webinar says about trying to help finance a builder and a developer to come in to 00:34:23
do that because they they don't want to take a bath and become, you know, not be able to sell the others. 00:34:29
10:00 I'll leave out to you in the morning or tonight. Other things you just to know is a lot of this and what the state 00:34:36
requirements for excavation to build like to property buildings you have to go down to to 8 feet. 00:34:44
Excavating the caliche excellent you're looking at $30,000 dirt pant just like concrete if you follow the guidelines instead yeah 00:34:53
let's take once so that so it's it's a tough thing coming down I don't understand trials and tribulations of the of the building 00:35:00
that didn't realize that I mean, you know we we've been offered to talk about we had a lot of come in and we're just getting a 00:35:06
survey for men on the other side of the video complex. 00:35:13
And so, and that's our luck. That's good. It's solid luck. 00:35:21
And and kind of go together with a builder and the developer to develop that property into a subtype and so we still haven't heard 00:35:25
back my mind of assuming that. 00:35:30
We told them that we would work for them and. 00:35:37
You know, give them the ability to build on this land that it pays back overtime. And there's a thing called the TDD district, 00:35:40
attached district that you can tax the area that they're building on roads and things like that. And then so we offer them that. 00:35:48
So we haven't heard back from them. You know what I mean? We're still kind of in a backwater zone here as far as Mushroom. 00:35:57
That big subdivision that went up, they're not terrific houses. They're interested by the church and they it went up. 00:36:06
In six months. 00:36:12
And the $300,000 because they're pretty cookie cutter college, but we can't get anybody to come and do that. And if you look at 00:36:14
the real estate market in Socorro, there's three houses for sale, that's it. And they're all at about 150 to $200 a square foot or 00:36:20
1800 dollars, 1800 square foot houses. And I think they've signed up for like 250 or something. There's one on the hill up there 00:36:27
on the high school they're selling for 600. 00:36:33
On this kind of like a California penthouse, but that's the inclusion 3 houses. 00:36:40
For today, there's no rentals either and I stopped running books, put up a couple of buildings and which is great for the city. If 00:36:45
you could get somebody to build more rentals, that's another problem that well, we see what the webinar says. It's a very 00:36:51
important thing. 00:36:57
The two things that the VLA who has got a billion dollar project for the next 10 years for the VLA said to us is housing and 00:37:03
schools. And so and the housing is number one for people that are going to come and they got another 200 people that are going to 00:37:09
come in late and. 00:37:15
That's all the 10 years and there's no housing, so they want that. That's totally the same thing. We met with the president of 00:37:21
tech and we're trying to do a thing together with tech to build a spec house at least so that if we can get a professor to move 00:37:28
it, that will start a chain reaction as we haven't done anything with that yet. But professor is about 20% of the population that 00:37:35
works at tech commutes that commute from Los Lunas to and like you said, they're not paying jobs so. 00:37:42
Even have vans that come every day. 00:37:49
So, you know, that's not just happening. That's the wife, children or I think I have to talk to the principal, she said. 00:37:52
40 to 50% of the teachers that teach it at high school are commuting and some of them will bring their kids to go to school here. 00:38:03
So, so that that that you got teachers, you got doctors, you got professors and you got just regular people in the one housing. 00:38:09
There's a question of how do you get the get the to come to start the the other. The alternative is and I, I know some people here 00:38:15
on the. 00:38:22
Council have looked at that. He's looking at the houses that are just sitting empty. If you could just rehab those. 00:38:29
There's a bunch of houses in the town. 00:38:36
Somebody could do that. So, but that's a big problem. I think some of the other business so that I want to bring up. I've had 00:38:41
probably the biggest topic here in the last two weeks has been bugs. 00:38:47
That's the biggest topic from people calling me, put it on Facebook and complaints about loose dogs, and I know that the chief has 00:38:54
been working on that. 00:38:59
But he's been working on that. We're limited as to our personnel and trying to get dogs and they usually are coming out at night. 00:39:05
There's some pit bulls and others, some Chihuahuas just down the street from them that are just. 00:39:13
They're not dangerous until. 00:39:20
Keep walking along and your ankles, but I would encourage the public if you have animals, make sure that you have control of them. 00:39:22
We are going to start our aggressive and taking animals, but that's not the biggest topic that I've heard here. Like I said, last 00:39:29
two or three years, it's it's animals. What would be the what would be the process for for someone in the community if they're 00:39:36
having issues that I know I personally have issues with a couple of dogs that are coming out at night. 00:39:43
Have them on camera and everything, but what would be the process if somebody wants, if they are coming out at night, how do you 00:39:50
go about it? Well, you don't even have plans. Offer if you've got pictures of them, send them to me or you'll pay and I'll ask 00:39:55
them to come out at night and go for them because you know they they will create 5 minutes and they will end up as the city police 00:40:00
gets called and they're kind of complicit going on. 00:40:05
And you know, so, so if you have pictures, you can identify the dogs or if you can identify where they might be coming from, I'll 00:40:13
have their animal control. People thought that would be the process, but just, you know, like I'm pretty active on Facebook. 00:40:19
Again, you can just messenger me and, and, or just. 00:40:25
And hold a City Hall. You'll be following through though and finding these colors and that sort of thing. Find owners. We've taken 00:40:31
animals away and we have to do it. And I have to say that the judge has been helping us on that. So there have been fines, I mean, 00:40:39
to the point of $300.00. Somebody had a dog and they had to be tipped. So we are doing what it says. It's a slow process, so. 00:40:47
We will. 00:40:56
It's been very good at following up on that. It's just that we only have like 3 people, that's it. 00:40:58
Seems like the patient has just gone a little bit more than it has been in the past so that we can. 00:41:05
But please, if you let me know, let City Hall now. 00:41:13
People are having trouble with animal control because they don't ask you the phone after fight and everything. So certainly in the 00:41:18
morning if you have pictures, then you can try to track your labs. I'm going to tell the public that that's what we're going to 00:41:23
do. We're not going to go ahead and strike themselves about it. I'm more more aggressively and people can say, well, it's my 00:41:29
daughter, but the dog is loose. That's not good for public. 00:41:35
I hope so. 00:41:45
Mr. 00:41:46
Sydney. 00:41:51
This is some of the time and talk to me. He said if I can bring something up the whole course she gets there that if there would 00:41:53
be any consideration for the parking rec department to consider utilizing those if they're not being given by that funnels for 00:42:00
like the ******** that these compost to me. I know it's kind of an odd thing, but it's infinite. My girlfriend behind this thing 00:42:08
and my kid in this one area that is lit up and that they can go and hang out with the most of them but you can't. 00:42:15
We thought about putting ******** out there. The question is whether they you know. 00:42:24
If they have to. 00:42:30
They bring their own boards. 00:42:39
Somebody wants to rejuvenate the since Mr. Zamora, he was a. 00:42:48
There's lots of pits out there, so if he wants to get get with me, if he wants to get with anybody knows how to get ahold of and 00:42:57
we can get with Noida, we can clean those up and we can make it into a certain areas where we can do the corn open. 00:43:03
That would be great. 00:43:11
Any other new business? 00:43:13
I guess a great time is to be had at the County Fair and we had a good time. Everything went well, Chief. There was no major 00:43:15
incidents with all the beer drinking and the dancing and the rodeoing. That's great. I heard it was a full house. 00:43:24
So that was a good event and that support festival. 00:43:38
Which is at 14th, I think the 14th December 14th, 13th, 14th. So that's that's another big bad coming up and. 00:43:43
The industrial. 00:43:55
That's I was talking to Mr. Capsule a while ago and and. 00:43:59
We are. 00:44:05
I don't know if you saw the letter to the editor. 00:44:07
From one of the trustees. 00:44:11
And his comic was that if we could get solar field that would generate electricity cheaper and then put that into the grid, that 00:44:14
would help decrease everybody's prices. And as a compromise, and I'm going to I'm going to write this up and I think I mentioned 00:44:20
that the other day is as a compromise. If the court or the city and allowing us to build a solar there's there's there's 00:44:27
availability of grants that are really. 00:44:33
Quite healthy. I mean we'll talk about millions, a million perhaps. And if we did the, if we did the solar field and solar the 00:44:41
electricity. 00:44:45
To the coop. 00:44:50
At a discounted rate. 00:44:53
Then I think we could both compromise. So that's where we're at right now. The other alternative is, I don't know if you know 00:44:56
this, but the Coop accused the city of eating something from them illegitimately. 00:45:03
Tickle and they filed a threat to files and so the other alternative is okay, Well, if you if you think we're taking, we're not 00:45:13
going to take it. Nothing. Let's get it appraised and we'll pay you for what you think we're taking. 00:45:19
But so I'll present that to the council next meeting to see if it's OK for me to present it to the court mode because I don't want 00:45:27
to just do it on my own. Have you seen 100%? And I think we just had an inquiry about more grants for the solar. 00:45:34
As working on that, they just sent process, they just needed some more information. So but but if we could get together with the 00:45:43
coop and utility and of course tri-state has to agree on allowing us to sell that electric to the core grid, 40% of we could 00:45:50
possibly it could be. And if we could get grants of it for nothing, then all that's gravy and we can pass that on to the consumer. 00:45:57
So that that's where I met on that right now, frankly, the industrial park. 00:46:04
Leg itself. 00:46:12
We can't get free solar. We can't do it. It's too expensive. I mean, that can't be done. And I'm just saying that up front that, 00:46:14
you know, the the three alternatives send you. 00:46:19
Stir. It didn't. Oh, yeah. Did you send that to me? We asked for it. We haven't seen it yet. Yeah, we got to, we got to get that 00:46:26
to the council. But he gave us he gave us 3 alternatives. One promised to fund it. Through this regular process, we've been losing 00:46:34
about a million and a half. 00:46:41
The other ones just try to fund it partially, but granted partially we still need money. If we got nothing, if we got solar for 00:46:49
the grants that we're looking for, we could actually be making money. And and so we're still, we're still on that, on that 00:46:56
direction. But again, I think in order to make a compromise and we could be the solar field for the coop and put that into their 00:47:02
grid and their their substation. 00:47:08
And I think we would probably have because the whole idea was to decrease the rates. That's the whole idea. 00:47:15
And if there is free money out there to build a solar, we'd like to, we'd like to go get it so that we come to that. On the other 00:47:20
alternatives to get the system appraised. Have we said, well, if you think we're taking that for you, we're not going to do it for 00:47:25
nothing because they put a price of 50 million on it. I don't think it equated for that, but they depreciated it over 30 years 00:47:31
already. But we'll get it, look it up, we'll get it up late and say, OK, we're going to take it because it's on our family, we can 00:47:37
get them off. 00:47:43
Money for it, promotion that's the other author the word start rolling saying that they accused of accused us of taking it, which 00:47:49
I assume was they thought we were just going to take it for nothing. And then they said what the price on it is 50 million. What 00:47:56
that's what we're going to debate is what the price is. So that that's what we said. 00:48:03
Anything else? 00:48:14
OK. 00:48:16
Before we go on to that, OK. 00:48:39
So that's not OK. Now you're still on. 00:48:51
The job descriptions Again, this is to keep our. 00:48:58
Keep current employees from deserting us and keep a competitive We have the fire, the captain of the fire department, the Fire 00:49:01
Chief. 00:49:05
The firefighter recruit, firefighter EMT and Lieutenant and there is a spreadsheet with the changes that are proposed. 00:49:11
I think. 00:49:25
Mr. Solomon, make a motion. 00:49:27
Discussion. 00:49:33
OK. So we're going to personnel changes, we've got a lot and I got to tell you that we didn't get a response from the county about 00:49:38
firefighters and we may be able to get them to finance. 00:49:43
That would help us then expand our system so that we can't cover and that we're not going to leave the city uncovered when we take 00:49:50
a transfer or we have to go to Bagita. So we're almost there. Hopefully we can get an MO U to do at the next meeting for the 00:49:56
meeting after that. 00:50:01
But you've got firefighters that start from the chief. 00:50:07
Down to. 00:50:14
Down to just a Pacheco. 00:50:17
And they're all getting a bump pulled away from the Fire Chief with almost a $60.00 an hour down to Mr. Pacheco, who is at $17.00 00:50:21
an hour. But I'm trying to work everybody up as we have with the Police Department. So it's for each one. And then then on top of 00:50:29
that, I've got gas department. 00:50:37
We've got Randy Montoya is a new pirate a 37 bank credit is moving on up to the gas and leak surveyor. Albertus Torres is a new 00:50:46
hire. But hey McDaniel additional job duty at the Municipal Court. Jose Luis Martinez completion. Jerry debarked on the mail new 00:50:53
police officer. 00:50:59
Raul Contreras promotion to operator and junior also temperate from them again. 00:51:09
I'm working towards $22.00. We're slowly doing that. We're not there yet, so listen to the personnel changes. 00:51:17
Move to 2nd. 00:51:28
OK, OK, here we go. Who is as well cannabis. All right, Zia. 00:51:30
Still a cannabis on 539 aircraft tracer steel you my neighbors were there and my farmer you guys cinder block walk around there 00:51:41
that used to belong to pat so we have take a steal here from the Zillow cannabis and Dylan Owens. Are you guys going to make us 00:51:48
yes Sir actually, if you don't mind I can get a little extra product but what the heck well I will start off by saying that if any 00:51:56
of you would like to end staff if you'd like to come to the farm for. 00:52:03
See what we're doing? Please reach out to me, let me know, and we'd be more than happy to have any of you. 00:52:11
So myself and my girlfriend Veronica purchased the property from the former partners on the my background is in licensing and 00:52:18
compliance for campus. I was past business partners, but I also helped write the the campus regulation Act and some of the some 00:52:26
rules. So we're totally compliant out there. I take the heart, but what we're doing is kind of a Co-op model. 00:52:34
We have our own farm, which is called high Maintenance. We brought on Trey and Dylan, who have a lot of growing experience that 00:52:43
running their own businesses there, which is what we're here tonight. They're both very experienced growers. So what we're doing 00:52:49
is kind of sharing our expertise with each other. Great. I mean, we've had some failures out here. 00:52:56
And gambles and all that. So we wish you the best and like I said, I'm your neighbor at the farm and to go search. This will be 00:53:04
our third year ironic and I decided to make. 00:53:08
About 3 years ago and you still have to do it in pots for now. 00:53:14
You've got plans to move to raise beds. We've changed the way we've grown to mentally friendly and to really restore native soils 00:53:22
in habitat of the when we're dealing with with salt water. 00:53:28
It's OK. 00:53:38
OK. Any questions, Mr. So I'm a little bit confused. This feels backwards to me because you're applying for a business license or 00:53:42
two of them. You obviously must have yours from way back when, but you guys are all growing already and you're manufacturing I 00:53:50
would assume on the party. Yes, we we're doing it under our license and then we're requesting is city licenses for these two 00:53:57
gentlemen. We haven't, we haven't yet. 00:54:04
For their state licenses because we need the city paperwork. So you gotta get this first and then yes. And you're already growing 00:54:12
so but under artery because we're already licensed and we've been licensed there for for several years, so. 00:54:18
Much space people will be able to continue. 00:54:26
Maintaining so fair. Just wanted to tell you that I'm your neighbor. 00:54:31
Understand. Thank you. 00:54:37
Anything this year? 00:54:43
We're just about to flower, yeah, and have as many plants out there as in previous harvest. We moved from hundreds of very large 00:54:46
1618 foot plants down to each smaller manageable plants because we're trying to grow and we're trying to grow in a way where we 00:54:53
can really regenerate the salt, regenerate the land. 00:55:01
So. 00:55:09
What's the state of the business in the state? It's very healthy credit. We're a billion dollar industry right now. 00:55:12
We've got a lot of business from Texas. I do worry a little bit when someone's Texas goes legal in probably three to five years. 00:55:19
But you've got a healthy industry. But in county, you know, it's Socorro with, with rich agricultural history here actually 00:55:26
attracted a lot of growers from around the state. So the valley up and down, believe it or not. 00:55:32
There's a lot of our types of farms. 00:55:39
Retail and Socorro. 00:55:42
I think the prices are a little high comparatively. You know, you've got down tricky prices in Socorro real estate, No, for, I'm 00:55:45
sorry, at the retail stores of cannabis stores here. 00:55:50
But that's. 00:55:57
We can look you up, Mr. Mayor. 00:56:07
And you guys are gross retailers? 00:56:10
Yeah, yes, that's not your business, but maybe you know about it. What's the story? I'll try and do Rodriguez. And you know, it's 00:56:19
a really good question. 00:56:24
I mean, we talked to her about a month ago, yes, two months ago, and he was saying that the business gotten so diffused that it's 00:56:31
gotten deluded. And and so there's no, there's not as much profit that they thought it was. That's why it opened up The Smiths. 00:56:36
And that's why that's one of our biggest albatross is sitting there in town. Yeah. And you know, I'm sleeping through their 00:56:41
members. 00:56:46
That's happened across the state. One of these larger companies, candidate real estate that they thought was going to be good for 00:56:53
their operations. And since we have open licensing, you've got a lot more businesses than the state originally thought. So yes, it 00:57:00
has diluted some of the original market, but the opportunities for new operators especially are gigantic. 00:57:07
Steve, another educator you met in Texas, I thought product could cost like it's not supposed to, but it does. I mean, it's, it's 00:57:16
like any other. 00:57:21
Or something in your, you can have a Colorado had it, everybody's going to Colorado. That's right. And in places like Summer Park, 00:57:29
for example, they're having huge maximum amount of growth down there just because of cannabis. There's a big entertainment 00:57:35
complex. 00:57:40
Order you also have towns like Jiao in far southeastern New Mexico that are moving right now because of cannabis. And it's one 00:57:48
concept of southern where they're they're having dispensary a canvas consumption lounge like games like ******* and different 00:57:55
stuff like that. So yeah, they'll have a hotel there. It's a it's a giant basically a giant dispenser. That's the first part of 00:58:02
this month. You don't get your money so. 00:58:09
Regulation coming because they're saying, hey, I'm doing this, you can't come under my property and even you can't find me. I keep 00:58:19
hearing those kinds of stories. So I'm still kind of behind the times and regulation. 00:58:25
Somebody's yes, it's more you have to upgrade as operators and certainly how they if you are a licensed producer or retailer 00:58:37
manufacturer in New Mexico. 00:58:42
You have to allow CCD on your property anytime they ask. It's not a request, it's it's something that you're required to do under 00:58:47
the Licensing Act. So if anybody's denying that that's a, that's a big issue. 00:58:53
Yeah. Can they find you another question? Yeah, but they both shut you down. This this upcoming legislative session, CCDS, the 00:59:00
Cannabis Control Division will be asking for some law enforcement powers, which as a consultant, I think is an operator, I think 00:59:07
is a very good thing. I've seen some really great stuff out there and CCD does not have the power right now. 00:59:14
To really shut down illegal operations or operations that need to be shut down immediately, you'd have to go through once more 00:59:21
crossing this currently. So we're we're we're going to see some really good changes in the arbitrary market. From my viewpoint 00:59:27
though, looking around the country what the training a lot faster than other markets would. So I think we'll have a lot of this 00:59:33
stuff for people with personal consumption. They can have plants, I guess you can have. 00:59:39
6 pence per person, or up to 12 plants per council. 00:59:46
And December Comedy Day. 00:59:49
Correct. Say craft in that specific. 00:59:56
Medical stuff. 01:00:00
That's great. Thank you so much for all that information. Again, the offer stands. If any of you would like to come out to the 01:00:07
farm and see what we're doing out there, get a little more education, we can go on for hours about this. So thanks for letting us. 01:00:14
We have a little session afterwards. 01:00:23
OK, cannabis. Michael grew up. He pressure medicine. It's an animus. 01:00:27
That's you OK for business? 01:00:37
That's just Hastings. 01:00:41
That's kind of unusual. I've never seen us approve a license for a farmer to sell his hay. 01:00:44
At the end of. 01:00:51
Setting cards and things with them. 01:00:56
Chicken Man. 01:01:09
25 bucks. 01:01:21
It's a requirement. I mean, we can see all the hate groups coming in. 01:01:24
Turn the groceries. 01:01:29
Then you've got a guy who's going to help you buy a car. 01:01:35
And tech. So this is Prince Adesis helping people by credit. That is great. That's that's that's it. Mr. Mayor, Mr. Registrations 01:01:48
is read. 01:01:54
Second, by discussion. 01:02:03
Thank you again for coming with the cannabis and we shall have a meeting on this September. September is 17 or 18, Thursday and 01:02:05
Wednesday, September. 01:02:12
Adjourned. 01:02:22
Speak to the notebooks. Yeah, Thank you. Thank you for button. 01:02:24
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