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The whole day to work on this. | 00:00:00 | |
I think I'll be good for a while. No, I mean you have to ask how the bidding comes in. | 00:00:04 | |
We can ask him in the meeting. | 00:00:19 | |
All right. | 00:00:22 | |
You know how to do this, Lena? | 00:00:26 | |
You've been here before? | 00:00:28 | |
OK, here we go. City Score City Council meeting Tuesday, January 2nd, 2024. | 00:00:30 | |
Will call. Please start with Mr. Partridge, Councillor Partridge. | 00:00:37 | |
Mayor. | 00:00:43 | |
Here, Councillor Tavis Lopez. | 00:00:44 | |
Councillor Fleming. Yeah, Councillor Dean. | 00:00:48 | |
Counselor Ocampo. | 00:00:52 | |
Councillor Ogene, Councillor Romero here Councillor Sal. | 00:00:54 | |
Not here by phone. | 00:00:59 | |
We do have a quorum. | 00:01:01 | |
All right, we shall rise for the Pledge of Allegiance. | 00:01:03 | |
Of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and | 00:01:08 | |
justice for all. | 00:01:13 | |
Mr. Roman moved to approve the consent agenda. | 00:01:27 | |
Senator, discussion all in favor. | 00:01:32 | |
Public. | 00:01:36 | |
We have the honor of having Counseling dedicate A plaque to Dolores Grago. | 00:01:40 | |
If you want to do the pleasure out there, what I'll do is I'll read this first and I'll go up there with them and then we'll get a | 00:01:46 | |
picture. But I I've never done this before. | 00:01:51 | |
But Dolores was like a second mom to me and. | 00:01:56 | |
She's always supported me in online endeavors in particular, you know, the City Council and all my elections and everything and. | 00:01:58 | |
So I wanted to, you know, do something special and and the plaque I'll be giving will be my original plaque from when I first got | 00:02:05 | |
elected. | 00:02:09 | |
But anyways, if I can get through this, I'm just going to read this. What's going to be on here? And then we'll just take a | 00:02:15 | |
picture. But Dolores Garvey Gray goes 78 passed away at her home. | 00:02:18 | |
On December 14, 2023, she was born in Carrizozo, NM, to Isabel Carbajal on April 8th, 1945. Dolores was a lifelong educator | 00:02:22 | |
working throughout the state of New Mexico. | 00:02:28 | |
She spent five decades touching the lives of children in Socorro. Her legacy will live on in all the souls she has touched | 00:02:35 | |
throughout her lifetime. | 00:02:39 | |
She has proceeded in death by her husband Carlos, mother Isabel Carbajal, sister Lily Silva, brothers Sonny Gavi. | 00:02:43 | |
Eduardo Gavi, Manuel Gavi, Vernon Gavi and JB. | 00:02:51 | |
She is survived by her loving sons Juan Carlos Griego and wife and Elisa of Illinois, Miguel Grago and wife Kristen of Socorro, | 00:02:56 | |
brother Ray Davie of Denver, Co grandchildren Javen Kamel and. | 00:03:02 | |
She also leaves many sisters and brothers in law, nieces and nephews, cousins and friends. | 00:03:10 | |
In honor of a contribution and dedication to enriching the lives of people from all box of life, not only within the cities of | 00:03:14 | |
Coral but the entire County of Sakora, Councillor Michael Odin Junior presents this recognition back on behalf of the City of SA. | 00:03:20 | |
Pictures. | 00:03:59 | |
Excellent. | 00:04:10 | |
OK, good for you. How are you? Go to lunch. | 00:04:20 | |
Hey. | 00:04:24 | |
Thank you. | 00:04:30 | |
Thank you. Thank you councillors and. | 00:04:32 | |
Anyone else let's. | 00:04:35 | |
Well, they can make a comment, you know, the appointments for mayor pro. | 00:04:38 | |
Is a council. | 00:04:44 | |
Councillor Hicks had been mayor Pro Tem as long as I can remember, but in order not to cause any friction or anything. | 00:04:47 | |
You can either nominate somebody. | 00:04:55 | |
Or you could nominate somebody every meeting. | 00:04:58 | |
And roll it. | 00:05:01 | |
To each. | 00:05:03 | |
And that'll keep everybody in the loop, so or every month you can change miracle. | 00:05:05 | |
Or you can keep one permanent, but it is a council nomination. | 00:05:11 | |
And so. | 00:05:15 | |
We can think about that and if you want to do it at the next meeting. | 00:05:17 | |
Talk about it I think might be best. I think the comment was, well, we don't and we don't. There's no need to be. | 00:05:20 | |
Doing this as a, you know, some sort of a race that somebody gets wins or somebody loses if you want to do a rolling one, which | 00:05:28 | |
you do every once a month. | 00:05:33 | |
You can do one once every two months, whatever, and just roll it to the next person. If you want to do that, you just want to | 00:05:38 | |
remind everybody what the mayor Pro Tem does. | 00:05:42 | |
Only if I leave town. It's just like the Vice Pres. | 00:05:46 | |
Or the OR the Lieutenant governor is, I'm usually in touch on the phone, but there's things to sign sometimes that I'm not around. | 00:05:50 | |
There's, you know, something happens in town that's an emergency that we have a disaster protocol. So that's what's going to | 00:05:57 | |
happen is that that lands on the mayor pro town and conducts the meeting if I'm not here. So that's basically what it is. | 00:06:05 | |
Think about it. But usually what it does is the City Council when the councillors makes a nomination, another one makes a | 00:06:42 | |
nomination and we just have a vote. | 00:06:46 | |
So if you want to, like I said, if you want to do an unrolling one, Mr. Mayor, I'm not. I'm not nominating myself, but I think it | 00:06:54 | |
would be a good idea if we at least get one today, just in case. Not saying anything's going to happen, but just in case something | 00:06:58 | |
happens tomorrow from now until the next meeting. | 00:07:02 | |
It could be the idea. | 00:07:06 | |
Mr. | 00:07:08 | |
That's the case. I'd like to nominate Marianne Chavez. | 00:07:09 | |
One second. | 00:07:14 | |
Moved and seconded any other nominations? | 00:07:15 | |
Nomination. Cease all in favor Lopez until another one is designated. Very good. Good job, OK? | 00:07:19 | |
We have. I'm going to appoint city clerk is Paulo Panetta. | 00:07:28 | |
A city trader. | 00:07:31 | |
Is Ruby Lopez chief of police? Is Angel Garcia. | 00:07:34 | |
And the Municipal League representative is Michael Gay. | 00:07:38 | |
We need a South Central Council of Governments represent. | 00:07:43 | |
And it has been Councillor Hicks. But if somebody wants to take it then we can have an alternate. | 00:07:47 | |
Mr. Mayor, I'm not. I'm not seeing myself either, but I know some people have been involved. So Central Council with the Workforce | 00:07:56 | |
Development Board and all that other stuff too, so. | 00:08:01 | |
And we can change it. It can always be changed if you can't make. | 00:08:06 | |
But I mean I would recommend. | 00:08:09 | |
One of the counselors, if they're interested in doing it, would mean most of the times they meet in the Tier C or Macia, they | 00:08:12 | |
don't really meet in Sakura that much, but in the South Central Council of Governments, we have a vote on it. | 00:08:18 | |
That's. | 00:08:24 | |
That also rule. | 00:08:26 | |
Are those it's not no regional planning. Regional planning organization is a different thing with US highway department all that. | 00:08:28 | |
And that that's the RPO is different. | 00:08:34 | |
So that's a different thing. | 00:08:39 | |
I'll give the South Central Council. | 00:08:41 | |
OK, so Marianne Chavez Lopez for the Council of Governments and if there's an alternate, Mr. Legan will be the. | 00:08:43 | |
And then the rural planning organization. | 00:08:52 | |
Councillor Deb. | 00:08:56 | |
And I'll make Courtney the alternate. You have to be an elected official as a person, but the alternate doesn't have to be | 00:08:58 | |
elected. | 00:09:01 | |
An airport committee I was going to appoint. | 00:09:08 | |
I'm not sure, Lena. | 00:09:13 | |
Did they say it had to be a counselor because the airport committee does have people that are not counting the council? | 00:09:16 | |
I was going to keep represent Councillor Hicks, ex Councillor Hicks on that. | 00:09:22 | |
On the airport. | 00:09:28 | |
And Mr. Partridge, if there are the committees that you want to be on, we have we have the Budget committee, we have utility. | 00:09:32 | |
We have the. | 00:09:40 | |
Recreation Committee. So though you might think of that and and you as a counselor. | 00:09:42 | |
You're always welcome at anyone of these meetings. | 00:09:48 | |
That that that we're talking about. | 00:09:52 | |
So that that you have a even a representative if you're not. Even if you're not, you may not be a voting representative at that | 00:09:54 | |
time, but you're you're able to attend. | 00:09:59 | |
As long as you don't have a quorum, of course everybody shows up to it, but you're able to attend any of these meetings. | 00:10:05 | |
And and. | 00:10:11 | |
Have an announcement and pull away. Keep a calendar as to when the meetings are and we need to make sure the Council is apprised | 00:10:12 | |
of when the meetings come. | 00:10:16 | |
And Mr. Mary, I think you forgot the New Mexico Municipal League. | 00:10:22 | |
Michael, Michael. | 00:10:27 | |
And this is all and so well if you guys want to make a motion to accept that action. | 00:10:32 | |
Just want to make. | 00:10:37 | |
To move the segment, accept the appointments. All in favor aye, in this resolution is that we have to do some. | 00:10:39 | |
Work with Mr. Oliver. Make a motion. We passed resolution #24-01-02A, The Open Meetings Act resolution. | 00:10:46 | |
Second, moving a second all in favor. | 00:10:54 | |
So I haven't done it yet, but this this Open Meetings act is where it would be if the telephonic attendance, correct? | 00:11:00 | |
That's the section it would go under. We just amend that later. I guess it could be the Rules of Procedure. | 00:11:07 | |
Either way, I think there's something we need to look at. | 00:11:15 | |
So the second one. | 00:11:20 | |
Aye, building rules of the body that Miss Maryland make a motion. We pass resolution #24-01-02B. | 00:11:22 | |
Move to 2nd. A discussion on. | 00:11:30 | |
If there's a question about telephonic. | 00:11:32 | |
Stuff. And Mr. Salome, you're still there. | 00:11:35 | |
Can you put that microphone on this phone? It's on. | 00:11:40 | |
Anton. | 00:11:44 | |
Yeah, I mean that's if he's, I mean if it's you can Mark, I mean listen to it online as well too just mean well. | 00:11:48 | |
But we probably need to modify that until we have. If we have another emergency, we can institute it, but I'd like to have in | 00:11:54 | |
person meetings. | 00:11:58 | |
If you want to make an amendment to that and the procedures, you can make an amendment to it. | 00:12:03 | |
That we have on this governing body rules and procedures that we may have amended, that, that we have to have impersonated Mr. | 00:12:09 | |
Mayor, I wouldn't say. I mean, maybe if they want to attend and participate maybe in the conversation but not vote or something | 00:12:15 | |
like that, I don't know. But I don't know. But we'll write it up. Let me bring it to the next meeting. | 00:12:20 | |
All in favor for the governing rules of Procedure A. | 00:12:27 | |
Purchasing policy. | 00:12:31 | |
Make a motion to pass resolution #24-01-02. | 00:12:34 | |
Second, moved a second. And that's Polo, and it's in charge of that. But he follows the statutes. We go by the state. All in | 00:12:38 | |
favor, aye? | 00:12:43 | |
And then CDB certification make a motion. We pass resolution #24-01-02-D. | 00:12:49 | |
Movement. Second, that's a federal regulation because it's a HUD. Money has to do with fair housing and things like that. So all | 00:12:57 | |
in favor. | 00:13:01 | |
OK, Western New Mexico communication. | 00:13:07 | |
Is asking for a special use permit. | 00:13:10 | |
Is it because of? | 00:13:15 | |
Is all tower and antenna to require a special use permit under the zoning code? | 00:13:17 | |
It's up there in the industrial park. The only people who I needed to notify was the city of Socorro, because we have all that | 00:13:24 | |
land. | 00:13:28 | |
And Solero and Solero did not reach out or comment or respond to the certified letter. So P&Z did approve the special use permit. | 00:13:32 | |
It comes to you guys. They recommended approval, I should say, comes to you guys for a final decision. | 00:13:39 | |
Mr. | 00:13:47 | |
Thank you, Mr. Christie. What will they actually be doing? They're going to put up what is called a monopole. | 00:13:48 | |
I'm not super familiar with exactly what that is, but I did take it to be. | 00:13:55 | |
Any and all antenna a monopoly, I think. | 00:14:01 | |
Mr. What they have plans with that antenna is they're going to try to feed in every anybody that's outside of the TDs area. | 00:14:05 | |
As. | 00:14:16 | |
Wireless, yes. | 00:14:19 | |
Question have been real helpful to us on that area already. So that there's we would like to recommend that we pass this. | 00:14:21 | |
So make a motion to pass that second. | 00:14:31 | |
Who can shake it? | 00:14:34 | |
Hello. What's the IT OK? | 00:14:38 | |
We have an integrated technology. They were the only one that responded. | 00:14:42 | |
But what's happened? | 00:14:45 | |
Joel Franklin and. | 00:14:48 | |
Mr. Dean. | 00:14:52 | |
Time ago formed this company. | 00:14:55 | |
And I guess in the goodness of their hearts on them, Counselor Dean could probably talk about it more. But they they gifted that. | 00:14:57 | |
Company to Ryan and Scott Del Kurt. Oh so just to make this transferring their ownership to the. | 00:15:04 | |
Yes. So yeah, same company, basically same company but. | 00:15:12 | |
122823 | 00:15:18 | |
moving and seconded discussion Mr. Mayor, should I recruit myself from voting on this because I don't know where they're at with | 00:15:23 | |
the paperwork abstain? | 00:15:27 | |
Sure, with Divergent abstaining all in favor, Aye, opposed. | 00:15:32 | |
Thank you. As promised, it's the beginning of the New Year. We said we'd bring you some information about the City Electric | 00:15:39 | |
Utility. We have a presentation from our engineers for preliminary engineering review and hold on, you go ahead and introduce. | 00:15:47 | |
What's going on with Mr. Fitz? | 00:15:57 | |
Are you guys there? | 00:16:01 | |
Hello. | 00:16:04 | |
OK, I have. | 00:16:07 | |
They do have their presentation up, so if you guys. | 00:16:11 | |
And go ahead and go. | 00:16:18 | |
We're just following up to give you a start up update relating to where we are in our work that you have. | 00:16:25 | |
Contacted US. | 00:16:33 | |
I have adjusted on the in the meeting with me and he is our operations person. | 00:16:35 | |
Feel like you are energy business, so I will kind of let them take over from there and I may. | 00:16:41 | |
Add a little counter here and there. If we go through this presentation, this shouldn't take very. | 00:16:48 | |
Yep. Again with the interest, want to thank you guys for your time and while at that date we'll kind of go through this as | 00:16:53 | |
possible, but do you have any questions, don't have to take care. | 00:16:58 | |
Request to ask that question. So overall utility interconnection, civil organ utility interconnection, design, substation | 00:17:03 | |
distribution, cleaners, the overall scope. | 00:17:09 | |
But also had the opportunity to install a solar power plant. | 00:17:14 | |
What does the overall sensation, the initial construction thing that involved or included to like? | 00:17:21 | |
Client which are the next detective student of the industrial overall, the industrial corridor and school district. | 00:17:30 | |
Book slide, please. | 00:17:37 | |
The current stuff taken so far, the initial submission design overall, the subspaces that we have several case buildings. I just | 00:17:40 | |
have a certain client. How long will you need to ask for the expansion capability take you take on the entire city of Florida? | 00:17:49 | |
And also have the capacity for a client for that option storage. | 00:17:59 | |
That being said, the assumption is going to be made. | 00:18:04 | |
Do you want to have the text that she's in the independently, but we take her emergency and we need to have a skip transformer in | 00:18:08 | |
the country to take on that demand from the overall? | 00:18:16 | |
What I mean is overall size to get the charger that you have front sheets borrowing at the NBA for y'all to have the case 24 to be | 00:18:25 | |
compliant and order. | 00:18:32 | |
2 area. | 00:18:43 | |
For future borders. | 00:18:46 | |
The plan is. | 00:18:50 | |
So for anyone you would have the people Why you would have two kids. This is the one. You have two Transformers to fix people | 00:18:53 | |
reliability. One goes down. | 00:19:00 | |
Just don't have that. | 00:19:07 | |
The reason why we come? | 00:19:10 | |
That I will be able to handle the additional loads. | 00:19:15 | |
To put that in such a business plan. | 00:19:25 | |
Farmers don't know. Just going to bring the entire I'm just going to walk. | 00:19:50 | |
And I get. | 00:19:56 | |
The bottom I'll just walk to the top 30th. | 00:19:59 | |
Outside of the. | 00:20:06 | |
By 2:50 and so 5040. | 00:20:10 | |
And. | 00:20:16 | |
It's already at the top left one. | 00:20:18 | |
There's translation interconnection from the Internet Constitution. | 00:20:21 | |
And then to the right. | 00:20:31 | |
What we call. | 00:21:26 | |
That. | 00:21:28 | |
So it starts here, they got red. I think we're we're showing those four different. | 00:21:33 | |
Is what? | 00:21:42 | |
We're having the capability. | 00:21:46 | |
Let me interject. You know, it's pretty difficult to understand what you're saying, but just let the council know This is a design | 00:21:54 | |
for the industrial loop. | 00:21:59 | |
And for the rest of the city of so. | 00:22:04 | |
I don't know if you heard that, but that's that's the design phases, right? In phases, but but it's but it's a complete design. | 00:22:07 | |
I'm sorry, go ahead. That is correct. | 00:22:15 | |
That is correct. That section in the middle is the 2 Transformers on what he was calling the low side. | 00:22:17 | |
And then the red box in the middle has. | 00:22:24 | |
The first section has got four different green stores in there. Those are the robots for fears to serve them. And the other thing | 00:22:29 | |
is that I don't know if you remember that there was a problem in Magdalena with one of the substations going out and they lost | 00:22:35 | |
power, that this will have a redundancy that that won't happen in this one. | 00:22:41 | |
I'm sorry there's no such thing as 100%, but yes, it's got that reliability built in and everything to the right of that red box | 00:22:50 | |
is future construction if you take on additional line, IE the rest of the city. | 00:22:57 | |
Go ahead. | 00:23:06 | |
Yep, I've walked through the screen during the slides and I'm not being able to see that. | 00:23:08 | |
So moving on to the next slide. | 00:23:17 | |
Which is just the overall profile. | 00:23:20 | |
It's just kind of if you're on the top side, the top left drawing is essentially if you're standing outside of the truck station | 00:23:24 | |
looking in from the east side of that substation. The cost structure is if they write in math for overall protection. | 00:23:30 | |
On the outside there, you'll see the red lines over your interconnections and your transmission lines. Here, PC and PT, we'll go | 00:23:38 | |
through the theaters, but on the bottom side, it's like you're standing on the outside of the substation, looking from the South. | 00:23:46 | |
And so from the West working to the left hand to the right side. | 00:23:55 | |
Then your stick please your current transformer switches and in the middle of that transformer. | 00:23:59 | |
And then heading into that vertical place. | 00:24:05 | |
We're going into your feeder. | 00:24:08 | |
You're gonna have that red, red. | 00:24:10 | |
He's actually certainly what you're talking about for future expansion we are going. | 00:24:15 | |
Plans can have it in the middle there for you to allow. | 00:24:21 | |
Getting expansion, they're just trying to point out they are finding the implementation within the future years and our cities to | 00:24:27 | |
go away. Let me let me interject a few things if you want to see it in real life. | 00:24:35 | |
Just go South of Los Lunas and you'll see there the substation being built right now for that solar array. | 00:24:43 | |
And you'll see that they're putting up. | 00:24:51 | |
Polls also. So if you want to see something the last two to three months, they've put together a substation out there at that | 00:24:54 | |
solar array. | 00:24:58 | |
Very similar to what we're talking about, but that's that's how it's done. So you want to see it in real life. I'm. I'm sorry, go | 00:25:03 | |
ahead. | 00:25:06 | |
That's great. That's great. | 00:25:11 | |
The next slide please. | 00:25:14 | |
You should be able to see what we call a ground drawing overall to get your grounding and for protection purposes throughout the | 00:25:17 | |
whole, just a grid essentially underneath the gas station, it's just showing. | 00:25:23 | |
That's on my end. | 00:25:37 | |
So that just the wooden circles is just showing the foundations for their structures. And so that's just kind of notice when the | 00:25:40 | |
two Transformers are that's the big thing is is the on the left hand side, you'll notice that smaller rectangle runs. | 00:25:47 | |
More beautiful running more than S That is what we call these control house for the controlling closure. They're only. | 00:25:55 | |
Panel rewriting. | 00:26:02 | |
Controlling the entire operation. | 00:26:05 | |
With the experienced members and experienced people are in the SO. | 00:26:10 | |
We brought. | 00:26:16 | |
Just. | 00:26:22 | |
Like that show but that's the problem and give me a feel what we have to do. | 00:26:25 | |
Hide location. | 00:27:11 | |
Actually to the North East of the same place. | 00:27:14 | |
Thank you. | 00:27:18 | |
Further away. | 00:27:28 | |
To get you closer to the distribution theaters, What did you see on this? | 00:27:31 | |
Budgeting is location that has been discussed with me and I just put you right next to it. | 00:27:40 | |
You still have this transmission line. | 00:27:49 | |
Be able to have intersection. | 00:27:54 | |
Industrial. | 00:28:23 | |
Be able to have that back to each of your clients or companies. If they're to have that, you'd be able to acquire or purchase them | 00:28:25 | |
of around 200 distribution structures overall be able to have. | 00:28:32 | |
By the end of. | 00:28:49 | |
So we've had is holiday season. | 00:28:55 | |
The flight status we're also having together all the places with English. | 00:29:03 | |
Yeah. | 00:29:09 | |
Say that again. I mean what you're saying is that plus the substation, it'll require another 200 poles to be set up to distribute | 00:29:25 | |
to the industrial park unless we acquire the clubs that that's so that the council Partridge asked the question as to what's quite | 00:29:32 | |
clear as to what we were saying, but. | 00:29:39 | |
It involves getting. | 00:29:46 | |
If we do it from. | 00:29:49 | |
The substation will then feed. | 00:29:51 | |
To that area, which includes the hospital, the new junior high, high school nursing home, the mine and New Mexico Tech. | 00:29:54 | |
And municipal, that is. | 00:30:02 | |
And the reason why loop the way they have designed is if there's a segment that goes out for whatever reason, it vaccines around | 00:30:05 | |
that. | 00:30:09 | |
Bring the power back to those customers that are. | 00:30:15 | |
And did he give us a date that he would have more information? I heard a date, but I don't know, say that again. Did he give us a | 00:30:18 | |
date where he could have additional information through the holidays? Well, at the end of his, at the end of the. | 00:30:24 | |
Everything completed and hopefully all the pricing. | 00:30:31 | |
Before the end of January. | 00:30:36 | |
What's happened is that there's been, you know, the everything is. | 00:30:39 | |
Pandemic. | 00:30:44 | |
Trying to get costs and prices has been difficult just because. | 00:30:46 | |
It's the supply chain has been messed up so badly but I think you said at the end of the month you have give us. | 00:30:51 | |
The rest of that information? | 00:30:58 | |
Absolutely. That's what I want to try to target. | 00:31:01 | |
Yeah. Now go ahead, Mr. Fleming. Thank you, Mr. Smith. I haven't heard how many acres this is going to involve. | 00:31:04 | |
Yeah. So we want to plan for around 5 acres, what we're going to try to plan for. | 00:31:15 | |
For that story, including construction planes, be able to have a field, an area to work off of and have structures lay down there | 00:31:21 | |
on cloud building and construction that is going on is ongoing. | 00:31:26 | |
And can you repeat, you mentioned where the location was going to be, but could you repeat that? | 00:31:32 | |
We have, we have not came up with a solidified location. There's three locations identified we have. | 00:31:42 | |
Pick one if that. If that's the question, Mr. Fleming, if you know where the substation is now. | 00:31:49 | |
It's kind of hard to get back up there, but then as you go South. | 00:31:56 | |
There's three. | 00:32:01 | |
And also there's a site for a solar area. | 00:32:03 | |
So it'll probably. | 00:32:06 | |
South of the substation that that. | 00:32:10 | |
The coop has or tri-state has right now and that will interconnect to that. | 00:32:14 | |
The ownership of those sites were still. | 00:32:20 | |
Exploring, but more than likely the substation will be right next to the solar array. | 00:32:24 | |
So that's I think going to be the deciding factor and then they'll take a line into the substation. | 00:32:32 | |
That tri-state has. | 00:32:40 | |
And tell me just if I misstated that, let me let me know. | 00:32:41 | |
The other thing we're looking. | 00:32:49 | |
As an option is connecting rather than connecting to tri-state. | 00:32:51 | |
Connecting to public service New Mexico, we think that may be an option as well, which might be a better option for you. | 00:32:56 | |
That's something that's kind of exciting to hear because. | 00:33:02 | |
As you know, tri-state is hooked to support Electric Co. | 00:33:06 | |
But there's an and this is what they call Wheeling, meaning that the electricity has to come from another source. | 00:33:10 | |
And so tri-state is one of the sources that. | 00:33:17 | |
They don't sell the electricity, but they carry it just like our gas, natural gas pipeline. | 00:33:20 | |
Is owned. | 00:33:27 | |
I don't know Kinder Morgan or who owns it now. | 00:33:28 | |
The gas in the pipeline. | 00:33:32 | |
Is owned by somebody else. | 00:33:35 | |
So we pay for the transmission. The same thing with electricity. | 00:33:37 | |
We have to pay somebody to carry that electricity to us. | 00:33:40 | |
And that's usually about two cents a kilowatt if you want to know the numbers. But we if we have another option that other than | 00:33:44 | |
tri-state that really gives us a little flexibility because public service company also has some lines, they're a little bit West. | 00:33:52 | |
But they also have lines that we could. | 00:34:00 | |
So that's those are the two things that are really. | 00:34:03 | |
Go ahead. Any other questions from the Council? | 00:34:08 | |
So this is the design. | 00:34:11 | |
We're waiting for. | 00:34:13 | |
We're also waiting for the solar. | 00:34:16 | |
I visited Aztec and I don't. Can you put that picture up there? Did ever come on? I've visited Aztec which is a community about | 00:34:20 | |
2/3 our. | 00:34:25 | |
They own the electric UT. | 00:34:31 | |
They buy the electricity for the past 14 years from Guzman. | 00:34:33 | |
They're very, very happy with Guzman. | 00:34:37 | |
There's other CEO's they meet with that sells electricity to their Co. | 00:34:41 | |
Guzman sells them electricity for 4.2 cents a kilowatt. | 00:34:48 | |
They have, and this is really, really important. | 00:34:54 | |
Because you know what the debt service is with a coop right now. | 00:34:57 | |
If you look at the, I'll make that available to you if you look at the income tax records. | 00:35:02 | |
They have a $40 million. | 00:35:06 | |
That they pay 4 million. | 00:35:09 | |
A year that comes out of your bill. | 00:35:12 | |
Aztec Electric Utility has no debt service. | 00:35:16 | |
They've been in business since 1956. | 00:35:22 | |
And they have debt. | 00:35:26 | |
On their utility which serves and I don't know if you can show that the service area this service Aztec. | 00:35:29 | |
Which is, like I said, about 2/3. | 00:35:37 | |
They generate a net. | 00:35:40 | |
For 2/3 they generate a net profit of 1,000,000. | 00:35:44 | |
The Aztec utility. | 00:35:52 | |
Bloomfield right now, which is the neighbor. | 00:35:55 | |
Is in the process of disengaging from Farmington just like we're talking about disengaging from the Co. | 00:35:59 | |
Bloomfield is in that. | 00:36:06 | |
Laplata, which is in Durango because there's. | 00:36:09 | |
From Guz. | 00:36:13 | |
And and and Delta Montrose, which is in southern Colorado, also gets. | 00:36:15 | |
Electricity from Guzman and they're very, very, very happy with Guzman's. | 00:36:20 | |
Responsibility and credibility, and I would, I would encourage you. | 00:36:26 | |
As a council, either talk to them. | 00:36:31 | |
Or go and see their UT. | 00:36:34 | |
And Aztec, which is very, very similar, like I said, they're about 2/3 are size, but with the Farmington and the Bloomfield area, | 00:36:37 | |
you know they're. | 00:36:41 | |
Pretty big metropolitan area, but Aspects specifically serves nothing but Aztec. | 00:36:45 | |
And and you know coach, therefore, you know, but there used to be 3A, but Aztec used to be kind of similar to. | 00:36:52 | |
Ten years ago, but this really if you want to see a utility. | 00:37:00 | |
That's a municipal utility. | 00:37:05 | |
Getting their supply from Guz. | 00:37:07 | |
That are very credible and consistent. | 00:37:10 | |
Visit Aztec and Denver. De Luis is the guys name who runs. | 00:37:13 | |
Quick question. So we're going to get prices on the on the substation and will we also have like ballpark prices per kWh from | 00:37:18 | |
well, it'll be filled in, you know if if we have, if we go to borrow that money, we're going to have to figure out the cost of | 00:37:24 | |
electricity. | 00:37:29 | |
The cost of the. | 00:37:36 | |
Bringing the. | 00:37:37 | |
And then cost of putting this up? | 00:37:39 | |
And the operating and maintenance of four. | 00:37:42 | |
And we'll put that together for the council and then we'll distill it down to Kilow. | 00:37:45 | |
The other thing I have to tell you, there's Aztec right there. If you see it up upper right, then we put the arrow there. | 00:37:50 | |
That's. | 00:37:57 | |
Down to. | 00:37:59 | |
That's. | 00:38:03 | |
Down below is Bloomfield which are also doing their electric and then the big thing is Farmington. But to answer counselor Ocampo | 00:38:07 | |
question. | 00:38:11 | |
So those four things are what we'll have to bring. | 00:38:17 | |
Is what we need to borrow to get this going. | 00:38:20 | |
What it's going to cost us for the electricity. | 00:38:23 | |
What it's going to cost us to get the electricity here? | 00:38:26 | |
And what it's going to cost us to operate and maintain. | 00:38:28 | |
Those numbers will bring to you by the end of the month and then we'll distill that down to per kWh. | 00:38:32 | |
But the things that are not you're not going to know is that. | 00:38:38 | |
The clock pays 7 point. What's our gross receipts 7.8. | 00:38:44 | |
6875. | 00:38:51 | |
7.68756 point 8 huh 6.8. | 00:38:53 | |
We don't pay that. | 00:38:58 | |
OK. That's almost 8% benefit. | 00:39:00 | |
And we get a 2% franchise for them. We want to be paying that. | 00:39:04 | |
So that's almost 10. | 00:39:09 | |
Right. | 00:39:11 | |
That's not going to be charged to the customer. | 00:39:13 | |
And I can tell you that they're paying $0.08 a kilowatt. And to let you know that I talked to the I talked to him on Facebook, but | 00:39:18 | |
I didn't talk to him personally. But he was on Facebook. And I invited him to come to the meeting because they're always making | 00:39:24 | |
such a Hoover about, you know, open meetings and all that. Nobody showed up, and maybe they'll come at the next meeting. | 00:39:30 | |
But they're paying $0.08 for their electric. | 00:39:36 | |
When I can tell you we're going to end up paying 4.7 cents for the electricity. | 00:39:39 | |
Per kilowatt, so right there. So the decrease in the gross receipts, the decrease in the franchise fee. | 00:39:44 | |
Aztec. | 00:39:52 | |
Does not do the bill. | 00:39:55 | |
The city of AZ. | 00:39:56 | |
Does the. | 00:39:58 | |
With their gas, I mean with enough gas, water, sewer. | 00:40:00 | |
And other bill. | 00:40:04 | |
So and the council. The City Council are the directors of the of the the Aztec electric utility. The City Council is. | 00:40:06 | |
And so it's a very comparable. | 00:40:16 | |
As to what we're getting ourselves into. | 00:40:19 | |
And on top of that, you know we don't have the $4 million debt service that everybody's we're going to have a debt service. I'm | 00:40:22 | |
not saying it's not, it's going to be free. | 00:40:26 | |
We're going to have a debt service, but I don't know if you just recently saw that. | 00:40:31 | |
The Legislature is making available $100 million for solar. | 00:40:35 | |
Farms. | 00:40:41 | |
So our people in Denver who their Aztec is also getting into that grant is they're they're using the same people to get into the | 00:40:43 | |
solar business. So I I think. | 00:40:49 | |
If you have the. | 00:40:55 | |
And I can give you the contact numbers. They're more than happy to talk to you as a third party as to how they're doing it. | 00:40:57 | |
Using the same people, we're using their lawyers. | 00:41:05 | |
Their finance people and their electric supplier. | 00:41:08 | |
And they. | 00:41:12 | |
I think they're also tri-state is carrying their electricity, I think. | 00:41:15 | |
So that they're very comparable. You can hear it from them. | 00:41:20 | |
But we're waiting for Finley at the end of the month to. | 00:41:24 | |
We're going to distill it down to a kWh. | 00:41:28 | |
As to how much it's going to cost that would be able to? | 00:41:31 | |
Can I add a few things for you? Yes, Sir. | 00:41:35 | |
Just because the Council there are 2000 mythically owned utilities in the United States. | 00:41:39 | |
And as a former city manager for two of them and a general manager for a company in Arkansas. | 00:41:45 | |
I can tell. | 00:41:54 | |
The electric. | 00:41:56 | |
And you guys have gas, the electric utility is probably the most valuable asset those. | 00:41:58 | |
And that's that Clarksville IN Clarksville, AR. | 00:42:06 | |
I was in Clarksville, AR for 10 years. I was a city manager in Chanute, KS, for five years and I was also a city manager in | 00:42:11 | |
Herman, Missouri for two years. | 00:42:16 | |
And they own the electric. | 00:42:21 | |
Every single one of them did, yes. | 00:42:24 | |
Yeah and yeah and they were doing broadband too for I understand, but but but anyway yeah so, so and. | 00:42:26 | |
I spoke with the city. | 00:42:36 | |
Jeff Black. | 00:42:38 | |
And Denver, Del. | 00:42:39 | |
And. | 00:42:41 | |
Their budget is ecstatic with the with the utility as to what they do. | 00:42:45 | |
And it's an enterprise, it's not. It's like our natural gas. It's an enterprise. It doesn't mess with the with the. | 00:42:49 | |
But they. | 00:42:58 | |
All the electric stuff for the city lights that put up the Christmas lights, they hand me down all their equipment to other | 00:43:00 | |
departments and on top of that, you know, they generate a million. And like I said, don't hear it from me. And I think, let me | 00:43:06 | |
give you the context of the the people that you can talk to or visit. | 00:43:12 | |
Like I didn't see they're working. | 00:43:19 | |
It's a no brainer and the way they've designed it is that we can then flow the and everybody's been asking me about when we get | 00:43:23 | |
it. | 00:43:27 | |
We can flow the rest of the this electricity to the rest of the city. | 00:43:31 | |
Yes, Mr. Ocampo, I have one question and I mean this. | 00:43:38 | |
I don't know if you have the answer right off, but just a standard electric pole. You mentioned that we might need 200 of them if | 00:43:42 | |
we had to carry the own. | 00:43:46 | |
Electric for the first days. | 00:43:50 | |
How much is it per pole? Just a standard like wooden electric pole. | 00:43:53 | |
Do you have any idea like what the basic cost to actually install it? | 00:43:58 | |
I can I can give you a quick look. Do you guys have a quick answer? | 00:44:03 | |
Well, I have a quick answer for it. | 00:44:07 | |
No, the the the the electric coop. | 00:44:11 | |
When they were talking to TDs to put fiber on their. | 00:44:15 | |
They wanted 1,000,008. | 00:44:20 | |
To upgrade all the polls in the. | 00:44:22 | |
So 200 it depends on if they're metal or there there wouldn't. I mean they're they're they're not cheap they're not cheap and I | 00:44:26 | |
think anywhere from 1000 to 5000 to 4. | 00:44:31 | |
But I can get you. I can get you a better number and see. I don't know what the pandemic has done to the. | 00:44:38 | |
I just. | 00:44:44 | |
It would have been when that was in Clarksville, AR. It would have been about $2000 for home. But again. | 00:44:47 | |
With the supply chain, issues might be higher than that now. | 00:44:54 | |
I'm just curious because I've been quoted by the coop last two years and they've been close to 7000 a whole. They may be, I mean | 00:45:00 | |
you know they they'll quote you all kinds of numbers, but I would give you some. We'll give you the the where we procure it from. | 00:45:06 | |
As to what the numbers are, but but you know the cost of the. | 00:45:13 | |
We may not want to acquire some of the if you go look around the city. | 00:45:17 | |
You may not. We may not want to acquire those polls because #1 they're too short. | 00:45:23 | |
And you can't. You have to have a certain height and again go to Aztec and look at their. | 00:45:28 | |
And again, I can't overemphasize the fact that they have no debt service. | 00:45:34 | |
They are not in debt. | 00:45:41 | |
And I want to ask you and I'll give you a copy of their income tax as to what liability they have. They're about 4042 million on | 00:45:43 | |
the books. As to the coops liability and I don't know how much that 42,000,000 you're asking about the cost of polls. I don't know | 00:45:50 | |
how much that 42,000,000 has been spent in Sakura in the last 10 years. | 00:45:57 | |
So, Mr. Park. | 00:46:06 | |
Just to clarify once the information comes in. | 00:46:09 | |
We'll break it down to kilowatt and then we'll be able to disseminate that to the public to say this is like how much your bill | 00:46:13 | |
would look like or give like an option what the bill would look like for absolutely, you know. | 00:46:19 | |
There's this euphemism they use at the Co-op and other places. | 00:46:25 | |
They tell you what the energy rate. | 00:46:30 | |
And they'll tell you what the effective and what your effective rate is. | 00:46:33 | |
You want to know what the effective rate is. | 00:46:38 | |
Because they put all that stuff in there, but they want to highlight the energy rate. So we'll give you the effective rate as to | 00:46:40 | |
what your bill would be per kilowatt. | 00:46:45 | |
And one last thing I did meet. | 00:46:51 | |
With the core, I didn't meet with the city or the court before I was elected because I don't. I need to get elected. | 00:46:53 | |
So I didn't meet with them and they did say they're going to come. | 00:47:01 | |
On the 16th, so your question. So they told me they plan to be here. That's the first time word of it. | 00:47:04 | |
I'm just the passenger, the invitation, but they they haven't asked. They spoke to you then. | 00:47:11 | |
Yeah, that's the other thing they do. They don't speak directly to administration. They tend to work on each one of the | 00:47:18 | |
counselors. | 00:47:21 | |
And I don't think that's the right way to do. | 00:47:25 | |
For them, I try to speak to their administration. I don't try to speak to the. | 00:47:28 | |
So I think it's important that we get direct information. Sure. No, I met with them because I told my word. But they did say they | 00:47:33 | |
were going to come there. I have no idea. I met with Mr. Editor and another gentleman. So they said that they'd be here on the | 00:47:40 | |
16th. They said that they put in to be on the agenda and they haven't heard back. | 00:47:47 | |
I'm just merely giving her information. It was given to me. Well, that's news to us. They'll tell you things that. | 00:47:54 | |
Aren't true. | 00:48:01 | |
I didn't verify who they talked to. I just. I'm a man of my word. If I sound to do something, I do it. I met with them because I | 00:48:05 | |
said, oh, if you get a chance, call him back and tell him. Polo Herrera. | 00:48:09 | |
Panetta is our city clerk and he's responsible for the agenda. I'm not going to call him back. If they're here. Well, I mean, do | 00:48:18 | |
we need to call him? Hold on. Why don't you be on the call and tell him? | 00:48:23 | |
That we're going to put you on the agenda. Just tell us what what their topic is. | 00:48:30 | |
Sure, yeah. | 00:48:34 | |
They said they didn't get a response, so hopefully we can respond. That's great. That's a good thing. I've never been contacted, | 00:48:36 | |
OK? | 00:48:40 | |
Just. | 00:48:44 | |
But anyway, so. So we are I again. I you know me. | 00:48:47 | |
I'm trying to give you as much information but but. | 00:48:51 | |
And make Denny's e-mail and telephone number available to all the. | 00:48:55 | |
And that way you'll have the number and I will tell, and I've already discussed, that the council may call him and he's more than | 00:49:03 | |
happy to discuss. | 00:49:06 | |
Not Socorro, but what Aztec is doing. | 00:49:11 | |
And I think you can use really use the Aztec model. | 00:49:14 | |
To see what a small community can do with electricity, you can call return. | 00:49:18 | |
I've spoken to the manager at Raton. Raton has a different structure. | 00:49:22 | |
Their, their Their directors are not the City Council. They have a separate structure. | 00:49:28 | |
For their. | 00:49:33 | |
And it's an appointed structure. So that's a different type. It's not a City Council structure. You can talk to return, you can | 00:49:35 | |
talk to TRC and see why they're trying to sell their electricity or their their municipal but but you'll find that they've ran out | 00:49:42 | |
of money and they haven't been putting money towards their electric utility. That's my understanding. So it'd be great if you got | 00:49:49 | |
a chance to talk to the different cities that actually run their own municipal electric utility. | 00:49:56 | |
Any other questions, John, or comments? | 00:50:04 | |
No, not if there anything if you could go into the very last slide. | 00:50:08 | |
There you go. There's our contact information. I know the staff that the mayors got it. I didn't know if you want me to share that | 00:50:14 | |
with the City Council or not, mayor, but there it is. | 00:50:20 | |
No, I didn't share it. I didn't want them talking to you. | 00:50:26 | |
No, we will. We will share your beautiful pictures right on the screen and you guys take a good picture. | 00:50:29 | |
I know I had to work really hard at getting that picture. That's like 100 pigs right there. | 00:50:38 | |
I think Jeff makes a better picture than you then. But anyway, we'll make that, we'll make that available. | 00:50:46 | |
We'll make that available to them. | 00:50:53 | |
And again, I've been a city manager over 2 cities that have the electric facility and a general manager in the city of board. | 00:50:56 | |
So I I could answer some questions if the council or you'd want as well, I think that would be good. I think that would be a big | 00:51:04 | |
help. | 00:51:08 | |
So we'll make that those information and that and then we'll wait for the end of the month and you know maybe a little bit longer. | 00:51:13 | |
I know it's, it's difficult getting numbers. You can't, we can't get numbers to do a road. I mean we can't get numbers to do a | 00:51:18 | |
sewer project. It's just been difficult trying to get numbers and we hope that you can, you'll be successful in putting some | 00:51:23 | |
numbers to all the the designs that you've got. | 00:51:28 | |
Well, Jeff said he was going to get the whiffs and chains out. So hopefully we'll have it by the end of January. That's wonderful. | 00:51:34 | |
Great. Thank you again for making the presentation. | 00:51:39 | |
No problem. Thank you very much. | 00:51:44 | |
Thank you guys. Thank you. | 00:51:47 | |
Bye. | 00:51:50 | |
All right, let's do new business. Miss Chalice Lopez. I don't know if it goes under old business or new business, but both are | 00:51:55 | |
there. We still have. | 00:51:59 | |
Water. | 00:52:06 | |
On Bagley on Hwy. 60 and I, we go through this all the time. | 00:52:07 | |
And the answer is always the same, that we can't fix them because it's being fixed tomorrow. | 00:52:12 | |
But is it going to be fixed for good? | 00:52:20 | |
Yeah. First of all to tell the reason why you're having the leaks. OK, so first of all the pipes on on Hwy. 60s brand new PVC | 00:52:22 | |
pipe. | 00:52:27 | |
That was better with Perlite from when they gave us per light, you know the per light they let us, they give us per lights better | 00:52:33 | |
this brand new pipe. | 00:52:37 | |
You have a. You're in an area where you have high pressure. | 00:52:41 | |
Your Socorro is all. | 00:52:45 | |
The height of the tanks is the pressure. You have the area you live in Socorro, so you happen to live in an area and only half of | 00:52:47 | |
your street area where you live. At the end of the at that stop sign by Quigg ends a high pressure area. After that is you only | 00:52:52 | |
have like 40 lbs but you live in an area that has about 100, little over 100 lbs of patient and then it's 1/4 of the ground moves. | 00:52:58 | |
But. | 00:53:04 | |
Those leaks. | 00:53:10 | |
Come because it's a high pressure. | 00:53:11 | |
So what we're going to do is install a PRV. | 00:53:13 | |
Over there by the railroad track Michigan PRV. What it will do is the lower the pressure will lower that pressure pressure. | 00:53:17 | |
It's like a pressure review though. | 00:53:26 | |
So we'll lower the pressure to about 70 lbs in that area. 77 lbs. | 00:53:28 | |
And we don't ignore it so much because if I lower it too much. | 00:53:33 | |
Then, like where polo lives, he won't have the water because he's up the hill. The high school can't have water, so we only can | 00:53:38 | |
lower a certain area and the rest of it's going to stay high pressure. High School Rd. has to stay high pressure because we have | 00:53:43 | |
to get the road, the water up. Fairgrounds we have to get the water all the way to. | 00:53:49 | |
To the Tractor Supply and then it goes to Smith Road and so that's way so there's only so much we can do. | 00:53:56 | |
And you know, we don't cause ***** and we don't even hardly flush hydrants or we don't have fires and you know, they just pop up. | 00:54:05 | |
And they're brand new. Where you're living is brand new pipeline. We've done a project there probably 20 years ago and done that | 00:54:11 | |
whole area's brand new PVC pipe where you live vaguely that whole area is brand new pipe. So that means there's no old pipe in | 00:54:17 | |
that part of town. It's all brand new pipe. It's just a tie pressure and we're going to be so tomorrow we're going to be closing | 00:54:22 | |
Michigan High School Rd. | 00:54:27 | |
Part of Spanish Trails. Harry Harriet Jim Belmont. | 00:54:33 | |
Grenada Padilla, the Cyril Fowler tray grounds and part of Bagley and Tractor Supply to put in the valve and probably take a whole | 00:54:38 | |
day. | 00:54:42 | |
But that's going to lower that pressure in that area. But you know we've done it. We put a PRV over there by the over there at the | 00:54:47 | |
rodeo to lower the pressure over there going to the to the division and that whole area and stop the leak, stop 80% of the leaks. | 00:54:53 | |
I mean we have a leak there one now and then, but it's going to stop a lot of the leaks but. | 00:54:59 | |
I mean, it's just how the town is. I mean, there's leaks in Albuquerque's. They don't, yeah, but but but the council chairs? | 00:55:06 | |
Are you saying these leaks inside the house? | 00:55:14 | |
Oh, OK. So the links are on the streets. Yeah. And I know there's one right there when you go into bag, but but that's the reason | 00:55:17 | |
for it. And you know, our, our system is gravity fed. Most of it's gravity fed and that. So. And you know, people on Pinion, they | 00:55:23 | |
don't have any pressures. That's the other problem. So that's the problem we have with that. Yeah. You talk to the people in | 00:55:29 | |
Evergreen. | 00:55:35 | |
They don't have hardly no pressure. I mean, it's just depends where you live in town, you know? | 00:55:41 | |
All right, you heard it here, but it's not efficient. It's not like. | 00:55:49 | |
That's a good thing. That's a good thing. I'm trying to find out where all the councillors live. I didn't. | 00:55:55 | |
Anyway, so great, but that's the answer to that and I thought you were going to bring up your. | 00:56:05 | |
Your signing, which is new and old. | 00:56:11 | |
How about your, the thing that you put together, Yeah, so on the 28th we closed on our project that's going to be located at on | 00:56:14 | |
the industrial park in between the core mental health and the hospital. It's 32 units of permanent supportive housing. | 00:56:20 | |
Construction should start January the 16th. | 00:56:27 | |
What was your bottom line? | 00:56:33 | |
About 13 million. Wow. That's the biggest project in the city forever. So congratulations. Terrific job. Miss Councillor Dean | 00:56:35 | |
Lloyd. Unfortunately, I'm just directed to you, but where are we on the Finley gym? | 00:56:42 | |
Demo So we added in the project. | 00:56:50 | |
So we started. | 00:56:56 | |
Where they're still doing the design for the to do the demolition. | 00:57:00 | |
So they we added that we're going to go ahead and demo the Municipal Court all the way down the police. So we had I had him do an | 00:57:04 | |
inspection in the business. So I'm waiting for that inspection to see what we got to take out that would Gerald today we're going | 00:57:10 | |
to have to redo some of the electrical work because the old electrical agenda when we kill that part of the building, we're going | 00:57:17 | |
to kill part of the Finley gym. So Darrell's going to start working on that but. | 00:57:23 | |
Once we have a demolition plan and everybody's moved out within the demo, the whole thing at one time. | 00:57:30 | |
But we're going to work. The place we're not going to demo is we're going to say for the wires at that area there. We're not going | 00:57:36 | |
to demo that. We were going to demo part of that, but we're going to leave it now that we're going to demo everything. | 00:57:40 | |
So where are these folks going? | 00:57:46 | |
So we're doing is right now. | 00:57:48 | |
Working with the school system. | 00:57:51 | |
To do some movement in buildings. | 00:57:54 | |
Chief Garcia's officers have moved already over to. | 00:57:59 | |
And he still had stuff in the evidence room. | 00:58:03 | |
The friends of the library. | 00:58:08 | |
Have a large section. | 00:58:10 | |
We would like to see the Municipal Court move. | 00:58:12 | |
They also want to do a pre-K at similar. | 00:58:17 | |
So right now and I just talked to. | 00:58:21 | |
Chairman Hicks, he's out of town today but he's going to come back later this week is we need to firm. | 00:58:25 | |
Our MO U because it's going. | 00:58:30 | |
Time to get all this stuff together. So. But right now the Police Department has moved to, presumably already in a way. | 00:58:35 | |
And there's talk about the city working with the schools. | 00:58:43 | |
To inherit ser. | 00:58:48 | |
In three years by the time they get because they're still looking for money for the new junior high it went from. | 00:58:50 | |
13 million to 25. | 00:58:58 | |
So they're talking to the state about getting, but they're but the state wants them. | 00:59:01 | |
To have something done with ser. | 00:59:07 | |
Before they start building a new junior high and we're going to work with the schools to try to work. | 00:59:09 | |
Both buildings. | 00:59:15 | |
We're hoping. | 00:59:17 | |
Friends at the library will accept another place because I think with. | 00:59:20 | |
Police Department and the Municipal Court, being in one place is the best place for them to be. | 00:59:26 | |
So we're we're right now we're just trying to get an MOU done between. | 00:59:32 | |
School system and. | 00:59:38 | |
But that that's how that's moving along. | 00:59:41 | |
So once I finished Deborah and they move out of there, then I'll get with Isaac because we already disconnected all the gas when | 00:59:45 | |
we were going to demo. So we're going to have to disconnect all the utilities there, get the gas out of there and then we'll demo | 00:59:48 | |
it down. | 00:59:52 | |
But it's going to be, I would say, a couple months more. Thank you. | 00:59:57 | |
I want to Chief Garcia to talk about some activity that the juveniles have been doing here in. | 01:00:03 | |
Which is really malicious and destructive problem. And our problem is, and we've always talked about a juvenile facility. | 01:00:11 | |
Is that we can't get these juveniles. | 01:00:20 | |
Detained and sent away. | 01:00:24 | |
Because when you get them and you talk. | 01:00:28 | |
Jpo. | 01:00:32 | |
They won't let us transport them to a different facility and they're still in town, still causing some of the destruction. | 01:00:34 | |
So they asked me the point system that they go by through. | 01:00:41 | |
So you know, just this weekend, on the 30th, they broke into the dispensary again. | 01:00:44 | |
Within 45 minutes we had three individuals in custody. | 01:00:52 | |
Did a search warrant today on their vehicle. All the product was inside their vehicle. Arrested two of the juveniles. | 01:00:56 | |
We detain them, called JPO. They denied transport for these juveniles. | 01:01:02 | |
We didn't know yet, but they had also caused around 3 or $4000 in damage at Sarcino Middle School before this. | 01:01:08 | |
Same individuals on camera. | 01:01:16 | |
We try to get them revaluated, to get transported. They still wouldn't transport them. | 01:01:18 | |
About two hours before. | 01:01:23 | |
Saraceno. They're at Walmart stealing alcohol. Same to individuals. | 01:01:27 | |
And we're just having a hard time. There's no rooms for juveniles anywhere. | 01:01:32 | |
If we transport them, we transport them to Farmington. | 01:01:36 | |
That's where they have. | 01:01:41 | |
Messiah Valley and. | 01:01:43 | |
But it's it's been really tough with any type of juveniles. | 01:01:47 | |
But we've had a rash of stuff going on. Our hotel was held up at gunpoint 2 weeks ago. | 01:01:51 | |
So it's, you know, it's really, I'm not saying it's the same juveniles, I'm just an individual that we. | 01:01:57 | |
Arrested last night in connection to that, so but, but, I mean, we're trying to get him. | 01:02:05 | |
But then we have no place to put them because is there any way that the city and the county could work together to bring a | 01:02:11 | |
facility together? | 01:02:16 | |
That we can you know and talking to the the county where we could come together. | 01:02:25 | |
We need to start those discussions. You know, it's expensive. I mean, you got to have a budget. I mean, it's not something, you | 01:02:34 | |
know, we got the very expensive because. | 01:02:38 | |
Very expensive because you have to have a registered nurse with those juveniles, all kinds. So maybe if you know we can, we can | 01:02:43 | |
look into that. I think we got to do something because it's really accelerating as to what's going on very much. | 01:02:50 | |
I think opening the talks with the weather county, I think we'll start. We'll start. OK, I'll call the Chairman. | 01:02:57 | |
Martinez. | 01:03:05 | |
Thank you. | 01:03:07 | |
The any other old business, new business. | 01:03:10 | |
Monkey business? | 01:03:14 | |
Executive session business. | 01:03:17 | |
No, we didn't have that okay okay job descriptions. | 01:03:19 | |
We have. I don't know if the Budget Committee wants to announce it. | 01:03:25 | |
No, go ahead, but we. | 01:03:28 | |
Across the board. | 01:03:31 | |
Doing 5% raises in the city. | 01:03:33 | |
So there will be across the board 5% raised to everyone. | 01:03:37 | |
In the city. | 01:03:42 | |
That's just a general announcement, Mr. Is that what? Because that was honestly, I have extremely last few, several days, so I | 01:03:44 | |
didn't have a chance to look through all the raises on there. But if that's is that what the raises are on all those I was going | 01:03:49 | |
to abstain, I'm sure they'll because I don't count in good faith vote on that if I didn't get a chance to look at all that and | 01:03:55 | |
I've never done it before, but I'm sure they all deserve it. But I just didn't know that that's what that paper. | 01:04:01 | |
This is a different list. So this list and then this list, this is a promotion list, is all 5%. I feel comfortable with that. It's | 01:04:10 | |
not. It's not that. | 01:04:15 | |
That was it's across. I didn't know if it was like certain departments again like we've done in the past. | 01:04:20 | |
But the first thing is the job descriptions. If you looked at those, if you could approve those. For me, these are multiple jobs | 01:04:27 | |
that you've got here. | 01:04:32 | |
That we're just reclassifying and improving the city of Sakura animal shelter adoption. This is a. | 01:04:36 | |
Kennel office. | 01:04:44 | |
Animal control officer. | 01:04:46 | |
We have emergency 911 dispatch. | 01:04:47 | |
We've got the captain for the Chief, Fire Chief, we've got firefighter EMT. | 01:04:50 | |
Gas custodial ground. | 01:04:56 | |
And uh. | 01:04:59 | |
This is. I think this is. | 01:05:00 | |
If you could, although we have St. Equipment operator. | 01:05:05 | |
And heavy equipment operator, we're reclassifying those two. | 01:05:09 | |
For the ranges with with the bump in in the. | 01:05:14 | |
Some of them fell out of the range, so we had to correct the ranges. | 01:05:18 | |
Mr. Mayor Fleming. | 01:05:25 | |
Through the changes and salary adjustments. | 01:05:28 | |
2nd. | 01:05:35 | |
Is it just the job descriptions? Did I get that? | 01:05:37 | |
Job description second. Second, all in favor to approve the job descriptions. Now the personnel changes. And again. | 01:05:41 | |
These. | 01:05:51 | |
Some of these were long time coming. Victor Hill Gas compliance promoted to Superintendent. Gas Superintendent. | 01:05:51 | |
Below Saldana recreation, that's a completed probation. Michael Pedia transferred to recreation director. Ruben Amato promoted to | 01:06:02 | |
assistant director and Simone Gonzalez resignation. So that's the ones that have nothing to do with the raise the 5%. So if you | 01:06:08 | |
guys want to vote on that separately. | 01:06:14 | |
From across the board. | 01:06:20 | |
So the ones that we're promoting now, they're not going to get another 5% raise, right? | 01:06:22 | |
Yeah, that. | 01:06:29 | |
They're getting, they're getting reclassified, but they will get the 5%. | 01:06:31 | |
So if you want to prove these to begin. | 01:06:35 | |
I'll be happy to, Mr. Mayor. Mr. Fleming so moved. | 01:06:39 | |
2nd that we approve this as read all in favor and then the budget Committee. And this is a if you want to know what the hit is to. | 01:06:42 | |
To the. | 01:06:54 | |
It is being taken. | 01:06:56 | |
Is being taken out of. | 01:06:58 | |
And the hit to the budget is 205,819 dollars. | 01:07:01 | |
That's what the hit the 5% raises. | 01:07:06 | |
Across the board. | 01:07:08 | |
So and I think. | 01:07:10 | |
Money well spent, money was spent. So if we could get Mr. Mayor, I noticed I'm an MSN last night that. | 01:07:13 | |
And I started in 2024. There are 21 states. | 01:07:20 | |
That are now bringing up their minimum salaries to $15 and we've been there. | 01:07:26 | |
In the city of Sakura for several years. | 01:07:32 | |
I mean we're trying to get to 20 but but this is a start, this is start. So if I could get a motion to get the across the board | 01:07:36 | |
raises. | 01:07:39 | |
Some of my second move the 2nd. | 01:07:43 | |
On fail. | 01:07:47 | |
And thank you that I that late I is that Anton. | 01:07:49 | |
That's me. | 01:07:55 | |
Oh, is it? Is it raining in? | 01:07:56 | |
Oh, it's nice. It's dark and it's late in Florida, but it's nice. | 01:08:00 | |
All right. | 01:08:06 | |
OK. | 01:08:09 | |
I got some businesses. | 01:08:11 | |
I got three Trish Tiny to. | 01:08:15 | |
Patricia Lamb contracting early intervention. | 01:08:18 | |
Is that are you guys here for that? | 01:08:22 | |
No, not for businesses, No, I don't, you think the only faces I don't recognize. | 01:08:25 | |
For possible. | 01:08:31 | |
OK, good. Four plus Spa, Spa, 103 Plaza St. grooming services, pet products. | 01:08:32 | |
ION Developers or Utah Dave Rasmussen residential, solar panel and scholars. | 01:08:40 | |
That's it. I've got a question on one of those and maybe this is for Christy, but we've been getting a lot of emails or at least I | 01:08:46 | |
have on on neighbors in the area with these and and the emails are very like specific and they say, hey, we're OK with it as long | 01:08:55 | |
as it's not going to be like this, this and this and mainly with like traffic, maybe foot traffic as well as as actual traffic. | 01:09:05 | |
The one that I've been getting hit up with quite a bit. All right, right, And so. | 01:09:15 | |
What happens if it's not exactly drawn up the way it is presented? Like, do these do these neighbors have recourse to come in and | 01:09:19 | |
talk with you? | 01:09:23 | |
Let us know or how does that work? | 01:09:28 | |
She is contracting her service out. She will not be doing any business at her. | 01:09:34 | |
Home. It's only her office because she doesn't have a quote storefront or. | 01:09:41 | |
Umm. I send certified letters to everybody who lives within 100 feet or has property 100 feet of that location. | 01:09:49 | |
They're encouraged to attend. I have had people with other. | 01:09:57 | |
Who have sent letters if they can't attend or they'll call me and they'll talk to me and then I'll give the feedback to the | 01:10:02 | |
Planning and Zoning Commission. | 01:10:06 | |
But I there nobody showed up to the meeting and I did not receive any correspondence with the neighbors and the letters are mailed | 01:10:10 | |
certified return receipt. So no, no, I don't have any issues with the the businesses at all. I'm just saying like in the future if | 01:10:16 | |
somebody says, hey I'm opening up this business, there won't be any traffic and the next door neighbor says, yeah, sure that | 01:10:22 | |
sounds great. So what's the scope of the work does change They can come in and we can contact the business owner and and ask them | 01:10:28 | |
about it. | 01:10:33 | |
And if it has changed, we can have them redo their special use permit to include what the changes No. But if they violate what | 01:10:39 | |
they got, we send the code enforcement officer. | 01:10:45 | |
No, no, I mean we're not gonna. I mean if if the. | 01:10:52 | |
Complain that they're not living up to what they said that they were going to do. They're in violation. We're not going to try to | 01:10:56 | |
modify them. | 01:11:00 | |
Right, because they tell the PNZ Commission before it's approved or denied what it's going to be, they ask about if there's going | 01:11:05 | |
to be chemicals. Of course for this case, she's just contracting out, but if someone's going to be doing oil changes just. | 01:11:12 | |
Right. If anything changes and we get any complaints, we do let code enforcement know, but I'm happy to reach out to. | 01:11:22 | |
The people who came through PNZ because I have the minutes stating exactly what it will be from each meeting. | 01:11:32 | |
Thank you. OK. You're welcome. | 01:11:38 | |
I mean, we approve the business registrations. | 01:11:41 | |
Yes, Sir. | 01:11:47 | |
I just. | 01:11:53 | |
Kind of tell everybody how our Matanza went. Our 9th annual Madonna this year we ended up raising $75110. This year it's been the | 01:11:55 | |
biggest 1 so far, so it's been. We took 62 kids shopping that were on the list and then we helped an additional two families | 01:12:01 | |
ahead. | 01:12:07 | |
One time I had three kids that weren't going to have a Christmas and other family had two kids that were going to have a | 01:12:14 | |
Christmas. We ended up helping them as well. So with that being said, I want to thank some people Walmart. | 01:12:19 | |
First State Bank Counselor Romero and DAV. | 01:12:26 | |
Joe and Vicki Gonzalez and I'm probably going to miss some people, but and more importantly the yourself and the city | 01:12:31 | |
administration for backing us on this. | 01:12:35 | |
Tremendous job. You've been doing it now for. I know it's the best food. Everybody that loves the food, you have any leftovers? I | 01:12:41 | |
missed it. With that being said, I like to send out a special thanks to Cheyenne and Desiree. | 01:12:47 | |
This is probably. | 01:12:53 | |
Parade that we've seen forever and that that's what's helped us, you know. And we appreciate the hard work that they do. They do, | 01:12:55 | |
they do a terrific job. So thank. | 01:13:00 | |
And thank you guys for for everything. | 01:13:05 | |
Thank you for bringing that up. | 01:13:07 | |
I think the Chief Garcia, did you guys do one too? | 01:13:10 | |
I don't wanna leave them out, Loris. I have to do the after action report and stuff like that. But we did the Marine Corps, Toys | 01:13:13 | |
for Tots. We've been doing it for a long time, 33 years. | 01:13:20 | |
And our after action reports are due in the 15th. I was going to give you that update, but last year was over 3000 families that | 01:13:29 | |
we serve so. | 01:13:32 | |
Yes, firefighter and police. | 01:13:36 | |
All you guys do a great job for the city. That's terrific. Thanks. Thank you guys for allowing us to do it. | 01:13:40 | |
This one, this one last thing on the Co-op thing. | 01:13:46 | |
Like they said, they sent an e-mail that bounce back polos. I'm just including us in an e-mail and so they can get them over here | 01:13:51 | |
or whatever because I just want to follow up on my end. So you did have a contact with? | 01:13:57 | |
No, he said. That listening. Is he listening to us or whatever? I hope so. | 01:14:03 | |
Jared Williams and he said no, he's not on their. | 01:14:08 | |
He said that he sent an e-mail to the city. It bounced back as Stephanie saved. | 01:14:12 | |
So Tiffany is not much, OK. | 01:14:17 | |
He's not registered in the city. He didn't know that Stephanie ran for City Council. He sent an e-mail. | 01:14:22 | |
That way you have it OK. | 01:14:28 | |
Council partners, they always have an excuse. | 01:14:32 | |
Yeah, but I'm just saying that he's giving you information about Stephanie Savada, who hasn't been a city clerk for past five | 01:14:36 | |
years. I agree. So I don't know how he's keeping up with everybody, but it'll be more than only a phone call away. There you go. | 01:14:43 | |
All right. Well, good. We had a good meeting, so let's have another one on. | 01:14:51 | |
16th of January. | 01:14:58 | |
Everybody. | 01:15:01 | |
Thank you. Thank you for thank you. | 01:15:05 |
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The whole day to work on this. | 00:00:00 | |
I think I'll be good for a while. No, I mean you have to ask how the bidding comes in. | 00:00:04 | |
We can ask him in the meeting. | 00:00:19 | |
All right. | 00:00:22 | |
You know how to do this, Lena? | 00:00:26 | |
You've been here before? | 00:00:28 | |
OK, here we go. City Score City Council meeting Tuesday, January 2nd, 2024. | 00:00:30 | |
Will call. Please start with Mr. Partridge, Councillor Partridge. | 00:00:37 | |
Mayor. | 00:00:43 | |
Here, Councillor Tavis Lopez. | 00:00:44 | |
Councillor Fleming. Yeah, Councillor Dean. | 00:00:48 | |
Counselor Ocampo. | 00:00:52 | |
Councillor Ogene, Councillor Romero here Councillor Sal. | 00:00:54 | |
Not here by phone. | 00:00:59 | |
We do have a quorum. | 00:01:01 | |
All right, we shall rise for the Pledge of Allegiance. | 00:01:03 | |
Of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and | 00:01:08 | |
justice for all. | 00:01:13 | |
Mr. Roman moved to approve the consent agenda. | 00:01:27 | |
Senator, discussion all in favor. | 00:01:32 | |
Public. | 00:01:36 | |
We have the honor of having Counseling dedicate A plaque to Dolores Grago. | 00:01:40 | |
If you want to do the pleasure out there, what I'll do is I'll read this first and I'll go up there with them and then we'll get a | 00:01:46 | |
picture. But I I've never done this before. | 00:01:51 | |
But Dolores was like a second mom to me and. | 00:01:56 | |
She's always supported me in online endeavors in particular, you know, the City Council and all my elections and everything and. | 00:01:58 | |
So I wanted to, you know, do something special and and the plaque I'll be giving will be my original plaque from when I first got | 00:02:05 | |
elected. | 00:02:09 | |
But anyways, if I can get through this, I'm just going to read this. What's going to be on here? And then we'll just take a | 00:02:15 | |
picture. But Dolores Garvey Gray goes 78 passed away at her home. | 00:02:18 | |
On December 14, 2023, she was born in Carrizozo, NM, to Isabel Carbajal on April 8th, 1945. Dolores was a lifelong educator | 00:02:22 | |
working throughout the state of New Mexico. | 00:02:28 | |
She spent five decades touching the lives of children in Socorro. Her legacy will live on in all the souls she has touched | 00:02:35 | |
throughout her lifetime. | 00:02:39 | |
She has proceeded in death by her husband Carlos, mother Isabel Carbajal, sister Lily Silva, brothers Sonny Gavi. | 00:02:43 | |
Eduardo Gavi, Manuel Gavi, Vernon Gavi and JB. | 00:02:51 | |
She is survived by her loving sons Juan Carlos Griego and wife and Elisa of Illinois, Miguel Grago and wife Kristen of Socorro, | 00:02:56 | |
brother Ray Davie of Denver, Co grandchildren Javen Kamel and. | 00:03:02 | |
She also leaves many sisters and brothers in law, nieces and nephews, cousins and friends. | 00:03:10 | |
In honor of a contribution and dedication to enriching the lives of people from all box of life, not only within the cities of | 00:03:14 | |
Coral but the entire County of Sakora, Councillor Michael Odin Junior presents this recognition back on behalf of the City of SA. | 00:03:20 | |
Pictures. | 00:03:59 | |
Excellent. | 00:04:10 | |
OK, good for you. How are you? Go to lunch. | 00:04:20 | |
Hey. | 00:04:24 | |
Thank you. | 00:04:30 | |
Thank you. Thank you councillors and. | 00:04:32 | |
Anyone else let's. | 00:04:35 | |
Well, they can make a comment, you know, the appointments for mayor pro. | 00:04:38 | |
Is a council. | 00:04:44 | |
Councillor Hicks had been mayor Pro Tem as long as I can remember, but in order not to cause any friction or anything. | 00:04:47 | |
You can either nominate somebody. | 00:04:55 | |
Or you could nominate somebody every meeting. | 00:04:58 | |
And roll it. | 00:05:01 | |
To each. | 00:05:03 | |
And that'll keep everybody in the loop, so or every month you can change miracle. | 00:05:05 | |
Or you can keep one permanent, but it is a council nomination. | 00:05:11 | |
And so. | 00:05:15 | |
We can think about that and if you want to do it at the next meeting. | 00:05:17 | |
Talk about it I think might be best. I think the comment was, well, we don't and we don't. There's no need to be. | 00:05:20 | |
Doing this as a, you know, some sort of a race that somebody gets wins or somebody loses if you want to do a rolling one, which | 00:05:28 | |
you do every once a month. | 00:05:33 | |
You can do one once every two months, whatever, and just roll it to the next person. If you want to do that, you just want to | 00:05:38 | |
remind everybody what the mayor Pro Tem does. | 00:05:42 | |
Only if I leave town. It's just like the Vice Pres. | 00:05:46 | |
Or the OR the Lieutenant governor is, I'm usually in touch on the phone, but there's things to sign sometimes that I'm not around. | 00:05:50 | |
There's, you know, something happens in town that's an emergency that we have a disaster protocol. So that's what's going to | 00:05:57 | |
happen is that that lands on the mayor pro town and conducts the meeting if I'm not here. So that's basically what it is. | 00:06:05 | |
Think about it. But usually what it does is the City Council when the councillors makes a nomination, another one makes a | 00:06:42 | |
nomination and we just have a vote. | 00:06:46 | |
So if you want to, like I said, if you want to do an unrolling one, Mr. Mayor, I'm not. I'm not nominating myself, but I think it | 00:06:54 | |
would be a good idea if we at least get one today, just in case. Not saying anything's going to happen, but just in case something | 00:06:58 | |
happens tomorrow from now until the next meeting. | 00:07:02 | |
It could be the idea. | 00:07:06 | |
Mr. | 00:07:08 | |
That's the case. I'd like to nominate Marianne Chavez. | 00:07:09 | |
One second. | 00:07:14 | |
Moved and seconded any other nominations? | 00:07:15 | |
Nomination. Cease all in favor Lopez until another one is designated. Very good. Good job, OK? | 00:07:19 | |
We have. I'm going to appoint city clerk is Paulo Panetta. | 00:07:28 | |
A city trader. | 00:07:31 | |
Is Ruby Lopez chief of police? Is Angel Garcia. | 00:07:34 | |
And the Municipal League representative is Michael Gay. | 00:07:38 | |
We need a South Central Council of Governments represent. | 00:07:43 | |
And it has been Councillor Hicks. But if somebody wants to take it then we can have an alternate. | 00:07:47 | |
Mr. Mayor, I'm not. I'm not seeing myself either, but I know some people have been involved. So Central Council with the Workforce | 00:07:56 | |
Development Board and all that other stuff too, so. | 00:08:01 | |
And we can change it. It can always be changed if you can't make. | 00:08:06 | |
But I mean I would recommend. | 00:08:09 | |
One of the counselors, if they're interested in doing it, would mean most of the times they meet in the Tier C or Macia, they | 00:08:12 | |
don't really meet in Sakura that much, but in the South Central Council of Governments, we have a vote on it. | 00:08:18 | |
That's. | 00:08:24 | |
That also rule. | 00:08:26 | |
Are those it's not no regional planning. Regional planning organization is a different thing with US highway department all that. | 00:08:28 | |
And that that's the RPO is different. | 00:08:34 | |
So that's a different thing. | 00:08:39 | |
I'll give the South Central Council. | 00:08:41 | |
OK, so Marianne Chavez Lopez for the Council of Governments and if there's an alternate, Mr. Legan will be the. | 00:08:43 | |
And then the rural planning organization. | 00:08:52 | |
Councillor Deb. | 00:08:56 | |
And I'll make Courtney the alternate. You have to be an elected official as a person, but the alternate doesn't have to be | 00:08:58 | |
elected. | 00:09:01 | |
An airport committee I was going to appoint. | 00:09:08 | |
I'm not sure, Lena. | 00:09:13 | |
Did they say it had to be a counselor because the airport committee does have people that are not counting the council? | 00:09:16 | |
I was going to keep represent Councillor Hicks, ex Councillor Hicks on that. | 00:09:22 | |
On the airport. | 00:09:28 | |
And Mr. Partridge, if there are the committees that you want to be on, we have we have the Budget committee, we have utility. | 00:09:32 | |
We have the. | 00:09:40 | |
Recreation Committee. So though you might think of that and and you as a counselor. | 00:09:42 | |
You're always welcome at anyone of these meetings. | 00:09:48 | |
That that that we're talking about. | 00:09:52 | |
So that that you have a even a representative if you're not. Even if you're not, you may not be a voting representative at that | 00:09:54 | |
time, but you're you're able to attend. | 00:09:59 | |
As long as you don't have a quorum, of course everybody shows up to it, but you're able to attend any of these meetings. | 00:10:05 | |
And and. | 00:10:11 | |
Have an announcement and pull away. Keep a calendar as to when the meetings are and we need to make sure the Council is apprised | 00:10:12 | |
of when the meetings come. | 00:10:16 | |
And Mr. Mary, I think you forgot the New Mexico Municipal League. | 00:10:22 | |
Michael, Michael. | 00:10:27 | |
And this is all and so well if you guys want to make a motion to accept that action. | 00:10:32 | |
Just want to make. | 00:10:37 | |
To move the segment, accept the appointments. All in favor aye, in this resolution is that we have to do some. | 00:10:39 | |
Work with Mr. Oliver. Make a motion. We passed resolution #24-01-02A, The Open Meetings Act resolution. | 00:10:46 | |
Second, moving a second all in favor. | 00:10:54 | |
So I haven't done it yet, but this this Open Meetings act is where it would be if the telephonic attendance, correct? | 00:11:00 | |
That's the section it would go under. We just amend that later. I guess it could be the Rules of Procedure. | 00:11:07 | |
Either way, I think there's something we need to look at. | 00:11:15 | |
So the second one. | 00:11:20 | |
Aye, building rules of the body that Miss Maryland make a motion. We pass resolution #24-01-02B. | 00:11:22 | |
Move to 2nd. A discussion on. | 00:11:30 | |
If there's a question about telephonic. | 00:11:32 | |
Stuff. And Mr. Salome, you're still there. | 00:11:35 | |
Can you put that microphone on this phone? It's on. | 00:11:40 | |
Anton. | 00:11:44 | |
Yeah, I mean that's if he's, I mean if it's you can Mark, I mean listen to it online as well too just mean well. | 00:11:48 | |
But we probably need to modify that until we have. If we have another emergency, we can institute it, but I'd like to have in | 00:11:54 | |
person meetings. | 00:11:58 | |
If you want to make an amendment to that and the procedures, you can make an amendment to it. | 00:12:03 | |
That we have on this governing body rules and procedures that we may have amended, that, that we have to have impersonated Mr. | 00:12:09 | |
Mayor, I wouldn't say. I mean, maybe if they want to attend and participate maybe in the conversation but not vote or something | 00:12:15 | |
like that, I don't know. But I don't know. But we'll write it up. Let me bring it to the next meeting. | 00:12:20 | |
All in favor for the governing rules of Procedure A. | 00:12:27 | |
Purchasing policy. | 00:12:31 | |
Make a motion to pass resolution #24-01-02. | 00:12:34 | |
Second, moved a second. And that's Polo, and it's in charge of that. But he follows the statutes. We go by the state. All in | 00:12:38 | |
favor, aye? | 00:12:43 | |
And then CDB certification make a motion. We pass resolution #24-01-02-D. | 00:12:49 | |
Movement. Second, that's a federal regulation because it's a HUD. Money has to do with fair housing and things like that. So all | 00:12:57 | |
in favor. | 00:13:01 | |
OK, Western New Mexico communication. | 00:13:07 | |
Is asking for a special use permit. | 00:13:10 | |
Is it because of? | 00:13:15 | |
Is all tower and antenna to require a special use permit under the zoning code? | 00:13:17 | |
It's up there in the industrial park. The only people who I needed to notify was the city of Socorro, because we have all that | 00:13:24 | |
land. | 00:13:28 | |
And Solero and Solero did not reach out or comment or respond to the certified letter. So P&Z did approve the special use permit. | 00:13:32 | |
It comes to you guys. They recommended approval, I should say, comes to you guys for a final decision. | 00:13:39 | |
Mr. | 00:13:47 | |
Thank you, Mr. Christie. What will they actually be doing? They're going to put up what is called a monopole. | 00:13:48 | |
I'm not super familiar with exactly what that is, but I did take it to be. | 00:13:55 | |
Any and all antenna a monopoly, I think. | 00:14:01 | |
Mr. What they have plans with that antenna is they're going to try to feed in every anybody that's outside of the TDs area. | 00:14:05 | |
As. | 00:14:16 | |
Wireless, yes. | 00:14:19 | |
Question have been real helpful to us on that area already. So that there's we would like to recommend that we pass this. | 00:14:21 | |
So make a motion to pass that second. | 00:14:31 | |
Who can shake it? | 00:14:34 | |
Hello. What's the IT OK? | 00:14:38 | |
We have an integrated technology. They were the only one that responded. | 00:14:42 | |
But what's happened? | 00:14:45 | |
Joel Franklin and. | 00:14:48 | |
Mr. Dean. | 00:14:52 | |
Time ago formed this company. | 00:14:55 | |
And I guess in the goodness of their hearts on them, Counselor Dean could probably talk about it more. But they they gifted that. | 00:14:57 | |
Company to Ryan and Scott Del Kurt. Oh so just to make this transferring their ownership to the. | 00:15:04 | |
Yes. So yeah, same company, basically same company but. | 00:15:12 | |
122823 | 00:15:18 | |
moving and seconded discussion Mr. Mayor, should I recruit myself from voting on this because I don't know where they're at with | 00:15:23 | |
the paperwork abstain? | 00:15:27 | |
Sure, with Divergent abstaining all in favor, Aye, opposed. | 00:15:32 | |
Thank you. As promised, it's the beginning of the New Year. We said we'd bring you some information about the City Electric | 00:15:39 | |
Utility. We have a presentation from our engineers for preliminary engineering review and hold on, you go ahead and introduce. | 00:15:47 | |
What's going on with Mr. Fitz? | 00:15:57 | |
Are you guys there? | 00:16:01 | |
Hello. | 00:16:04 | |
OK, I have. | 00:16:07 | |
They do have their presentation up, so if you guys. | 00:16:11 | |
And go ahead and go. | 00:16:18 | |
We're just following up to give you a start up update relating to where we are in our work that you have. | 00:16:25 | |
Contacted US. | 00:16:33 | |
I have adjusted on the in the meeting with me and he is our operations person. | 00:16:35 | |
Feel like you are energy business, so I will kind of let them take over from there and I may. | 00:16:41 | |
Add a little counter here and there. If we go through this presentation, this shouldn't take very. | 00:16:48 | |
Yep. Again with the interest, want to thank you guys for your time and while at that date we'll kind of go through this as | 00:16:53 | |
possible, but do you have any questions, don't have to take care. | 00:16:58 | |
Request to ask that question. So overall utility interconnection, civil organ utility interconnection, design, substation | 00:17:03 | |
distribution, cleaners, the overall scope. | 00:17:09 | |
But also had the opportunity to install a solar power plant. | 00:17:14 | |
What does the overall sensation, the initial construction thing that involved or included to like? | 00:17:21 | |
Client which are the next detective student of the industrial overall, the industrial corridor and school district. | 00:17:30 | |
Book slide, please. | 00:17:37 | |
The current stuff taken so far, the initial submission design overall, the subspaces that we have several case buildings. I just | 00:17:40 | |
have a certain client. How long will you need to ask for the expansion capability take you take on the entire city of Florida? | 00:17:49 | |
And also have the capacity for a client for that option storage. | 00:17:59 | |
That being said, the assumption is going to be made. | 00:18:04 | |
Do you want to have the text that she's in the independently, but we take her emergency and we need to have a skip transformer in | 00:18:08 | |
the country to take on that demand from the overall? | 00:18:16 | |
What I mean is overall size to get the charger that you have front sheets borrowing at the NBA for y'all to have the case 24 to be | 00:18:25 | |
compliant and order. | 00:18:32 | |
2 area. | 00:18:43 | |
For future borders. | 00:18:46 | |
The plan is. | 00:18:50 | |
So for anyone you would have the people Why you would have two kids. This is the one. You have two Transformers to fix people | 00:18:53 | |
reliability. One goes down. | 00:19:00 | |
Just don't have that. | 00:19:07 | |
The reason why we come? | 00:19:10 | |
That I will be able to handle the additional loads. | 00:19:15 | |
To put that in such a business plan. | 00:19:25 | |
Farmers don't know. Just going to bring the entire I'm just going to walk. | 00:19:50 | |
And I get. | 00:19:56 | |
The bottom I'll just walk to the top 30th. | 00:19:59 | |
Outside of the. | 00:20:06 | |
By 2:50 and so 5040. | 00:20:10 | |
And. | 00:20:16 | |
It's already at the top left one. | 00:20:18 | |
There's translation interconnection from the Internet Constitution. | 00:20:21 | |
And then to the right. | 00:20:31 | |
What we call. | 00:21:26 | |
That. | 00:21:28 | |
So it starts here, they got red. I think we're we're showing those four different. | 00:21:33 | |
Is what? | 00:21:42 | |
We're having the capability. | 00:21:46 | |
Let me interject. You know, it's pretty difficult to understand what you're saying, but just let the council know This is a design | 00:21:54 | |
for the industrial loop. | 00:21:59 | |
And for the rest of the city of so. | 00:22:04 | |
I don't know if you heard that, but that's that's the design phases, right? In phases, but but it's but it's a complete design. | 00:22:07 | |
I'm sorry, go ahead. That is correct. | 00:22:15 | |
That is correct. That section in the middle is the 2 Transformers on what he was calling the low side. | 00:22:17 | |
And then the red box in the middle has. | 00:22:24 | |
The first section has got four different green stores in there. Those are the robots for fears to serve them. And the other thing | 00:22:29 | |
is that I don't know if you remember that there was a problem in Magdalena with one of the substations going out and they lost | 00:22:35 | |
power, that this will have a redundancy that that won't happen in this one. | 00:22:41 | |
I'm sorry there's no such thing as 100%, but yes, it's got that reliability built in and everything to the right of that red box | 00:22:50 | |
is future construction if you take on additional line, IE the rest of the city. | 00:22:57 | |
Go ahead. | 00:23:06 | |
Yep, I've walked through the screen during the slides and I'm not being able to see that. | 00:23:08 | |
So moving on to the next slide. | 00:23:17 | |
Which is just the overall profile. | 00:23:20 | |
It's just kind of if you're on the top side, the top left drawing is essentially if you're standing outside of the truck station | 00:23:24 | |
looking in from the east side of that substation. The cost structure is if they write in math for overall protection. | 00:23:30 | |
On the outside there, you'll see the red lines over your interconnections and your transmission lines. Here, PC and PT, we'll go | 00:23:38 | |
through the theaters, but on the bottom side, it's like you're standing on the outside of the substation, looking from the South. | 00:23:46 | |
And so from the West working to the left hand to the right side. | 00:23:55 | |
Then your stick please your current transformer switches and in the middle of that transformer. | 00:23:59 | |
And then heading into that vertical place. | 00:24:05 | |
We're going into your feeder. | 00:24:08 | |
You're gonna have that red, red. | 00:24:10 | |
He's actually certainly what you're talking about for future expansion we are going. | 00:24:15 | |
Plans can have it in the middle there for you to allow. | 00:24:21 | |
Getting expansion, they're just trying to point out they are finding the implementation within the future years and our cities to | 00:24:27 | |
go away. Let me let me interject a few things if you want to see it in real life. | 00:24:35 | |
Just go South of Los Lunas and you'll see there the substation being built right now for that solar array. | 00:24:43 | |
And you'll see that they're putting up. | 00:24:51 | |
Polls also. So if you want to see something the last two to three months, they've put together a substation out there at that | 00:24:54 | |
solar array. | 00:24:58 | |
Very similar to what we're talking about, but that's that's how it's done. So you want to see it in real life. I'm. I'm sorry, go | 00:25:03 | |
ahead. | 00:25:06 | |
That's great. That's great. | 00:25:11 | |
The next slide please. | 00:25:14 | |
You should be able to see what we call a ground drawing overall to get your grounding and for protection purposes throughout the | 00:25:17 | |
whole, just a grid essentially underneath the gas station, it's just showing. | 00:25:23 | |
That's on my end. | 00:25:37 | |
So that just the wooden circles is just showing the foundations for their structures. And so that's just kind of notice when the | 00:25:40 | |
two Transformers are that's the big thing is is the on the left hand side, you'll notice that smaller rectangle runs. | 00:25:47 | |
More beautiful running more than S That is what we call these control house for the controlling closure. They're only. | 00:25:55 | |
Panel rewriting. | 00:26:02 | |
Controlling the entire operation. | 00:26:05 | |
With the experienced members and experienced people are in the SO. | 00:26:10 | |
We brought. | 00:26:16 | |
Just. | 00:26:22 | |
Like that show but that's the problem and give me a feel what we have to do. | 00:26:25 | |
Hide location. | 00:27:11 | |
Actually to the North East of the same place. | 00:27:14 | |
Thank you. | 00:27:18 | |
Further away. | 00:27:28 | |
To get you closer to the distribution theaters, What did you see on this? | 00:27:31 | |
Budgeting is location that has been discussed with me and I just put you right next to it. | 00:27:40 | |
You still have this transmission line. | 00:27:49 | |
Be able to have intersection. | 00:27:54 | |
Industrial. | 00:28:23 | |
Be able to have that back to each of your clients or companies. If they're to have that, you'd be able to acquire or purchase them | 00:28:25 | |
of around 200 distribution structures overall be able to have. | 00:28:32 | |
By the end of. | 00:28:49 | |
So we've had is holiday season. | 00:28:55 | |
The flight status we're also having together all the places with English. | 00:29:03 | |
Yeah. | 00:29:09 | |
Say that again. I mean what you're saying is that plus the substation, it'll require another 200 poles to be set up to distribute | 00:29:25 | |
to the industrial park unless we acquire the clubs that that's so that the council Partridge asked the question as to what's quite | 00:29:32 | |
clear as to what we were saying, but. | 00:29:39 | |
It involves getting. | 00:29:46 | |
If we do it from. | 00:29:49 | |
The substation will then feed. | 00:29:51 | |
To that area, which includes the hospital, the new junior high, high school nursing home, the mine and New Mexico Tech. | 00:29:54 | |
And municipal, that is. | 00:30:02 | |
And the reason why loop the way they have designed is if there's a segment that goes out for whatever reason, it vaccines around | 00:30:05 | |
that. | 00:30:09 | |
Bring the power back to those customers that are. | 00:30:15 | |
And did he give us a date that he would have more information? I heard a date, but I don't know, say that again. Did he give us a | 00:30:18 | |
date where he could have additional information through the holidays? Well, at the end of his, at the end of the. | 00:30:24 | |
Everything completed and hopefully all the pricing. | 00:30:31 | |
Before the end of January. | 00:30:36 | |
What's happened is that there's been, you know, the everything is. | 00:30:39 | |
Pandemic. | 00:30:44 | |
Trying to get costs and prices has been difficult just because. | 00:30:46 | |
It's the supply chain has been messed up so badly but I think you said at the end of the month you have give us. | 00:30:51 | |
The rest of that information? | 00:30:58 | |
Absolutely. That's what I want to try to target. | 00:31:01 | |
Yeah. Now go ahead, Mr. Fleming. Thank you, Mr. Smith. I haven't heard how many acres this is going to involve. | 00:31:04 | |
Yeah. So we want to plan for around 5 acres, what we're going to try to plan for. | 00:31:15 | |
For that story, including construction planes, be able to have a field, an area to work off of and have structures lay down there | 00:31:21 | |
on cloud building and construction that is going on is ongoing. | 00:31:26 | |
And can you repeat, you mentioned where the location was going to be, but could you repeat that? | 00:31:32 | |
We have, we have not came up with a solidified location. There's three locations identified we have. | 00:31:42 | |
Pick one if that. If that's the question, Mr. Fleming, if you know where the substation is now. | 00:31:49 | |
It's kind of hard to get back up there, but then as you go South. | 00:31:56 | |
There's three. | 00:32:01 | |
And also there's a site for a solar area. | 00:32:03 | |
So it'll probably. | 00:32:06 | |
South of the substation that that. | 00:32:10 | |
The coop has or tri-state has right now and that will interconnect to that. | 00:32:14 | |
The ownership of those sites were still. | 00:32:20 | |
Exploring, but more than likely the substation will be right next to the solar array. | 00:32:24 | |
So that's I think going to be the deciding factor and then they'll take a line into the substation. | 00:32:32 | |
That tri-state has. | 00:32:40 | |
And tell me just if I misstated that, let me let me know. | 00:32:41 | |
The other thing we're looking. | 00:32:49 | |
As an option is connecting rather than connecting to tri-state. | 00:32:51 | |
Connecting to public service New Mexico, we think that may be an option as well, which might be a better option for you. | 00:32:56 | |
That's something that's kind of exciting to hear because. | 00:33:02 | |
As you know, tri-state is hooked to support Electric Co. | 00:33:06 | |
But there's an and this is what they call Wheeling, meaning that the electricity has to come from another source. | 00:33:10 | |
And so tri-state is one of the sources that. | 00:33:17 | |
They don't sell the electricity, but they carry it just like our gas, natural gas pipeline. | 00:33:20 | |
Is owned. | 00:33:27 | |
I don't know Kinder Morgan or who owns it now. | 00:33:28 | |
The gas in the pipeline. | 00:33:32 | |
Is owned by somebody else. | 00:33:35 | |
So we pay for the transmission. The same thing with electricity. | 00:33:37 | |
We have to pay somebody to carry that electricity to us. | 00:33:40 | |
And that's usually about two cents a kilowatt if you want to know the numbers. But we if we have another option that other than | 00:33:44 | |
tri-state that really gives us a little flexibility because public service company also has some lines, they're a little bit West. | 00:33:52 | |
But they also have lines that we could. | 00:34:00 | |
So that's those are the two things that are really. | 00:34:03 | |
Go ahead. Any other questions from the Council? | 00:34:08 | |
So this is the design. | 00:34:11 | |
We're waiting for. | 00:34:13 | |
We're also waiting for the solar. | 00:34:16 | |
I visited Aztec and I don't. Can you put that picture up there? Did ever come on? I've visited Aztec which is a community about | 00:34:20 | |
2/3 our. | 00:34:25 | |
They own the electric UT. | 00:34:31 | |
They buy the electricity for the past 14 years from Guzman. | 00:34:33 | |
They're very, very happy with Guzman. | 00:34:37 | |
There's other CEO's they meet with that sells electricity to their Co. | 00:34:41 | |
Guzman sells them electricity for 4.2 cents a kilowatt. | 00:34:48 | |
They have, and this is really, really important. | 00:34:54 | |
Because you know what the debt service is with a coop right now. | 00:34:57 | |
If you look at the, I'll make that available to you if you look at the income tax records. | 00:35:02 | |
They have a $40 million. | 00:35:06 | |
That they pay 4 million. | 00:35:09 | |
A year that comes out of your bill. | 00:35:12 | |
Aztec Electric Utility has no debt service. | 00:35:16 | |
They've been in business since 1956. | 00:35:22 | |
And they have debt. | 00:35:26 | |
On their utility which serves and I don't know if you can show that the service area this service Aztec. | 00:35:29 | |
Which is, like I said, about 2/3. | 00:35:37 | |
They generate a net. | 00:35:40 | |
For 2/3 they generate a net profit of 1,000,000. | 00:35:44 | |
The Aztec utility. | 00:35:52 | |
Bloomfield right now, which is the neighbor. | 00:35:55 | |
Is in the process of disengaging from Farmington just like we're talking about disengaging from the Co. | 00:35:59 | |
Bloomfield is in that. | 00:36:06 | |
Laplata, which is in Durango because there's. | 00:36:09 | |
From Guz. | 00:36:13 | |
And and and Delta Montrose, which is in southern Colorado, also gets. | 00:36:15 | |
Electricity from Guzman and they're very, very, very happy with Guzman's. | 00:36:20 | |
Responsibility and credibility, and I would, I would encourage you. | 00:36:26 | |
As a council, either talk to them. | 00:36:31 | |
Or go and see their UT. | 00:36:34 | |
And Aztec, which is very, very similar, like I said, they're about 2/3 are size, but with the Farmington and the Bloomfield area, | 00:36:37 | |
you know they're. | 00:36:41 | |
Pretty big metropolitan area, but Aspects specifically serves nothing but Aztec. | 00:36:45 | |
And and you know coach, therefore, you know, but there used to be 3A, but Aztec used to be kind of similar to. | 00:36:52 | |
Ten years ago, but this really if you want to see a utility. | 00:37:00 | |
That's a municipal utility. | 00:37:05 | |
Getting their supply from Guz. | 00:37:07 | |
That are very credible and consistent. | 00:37:10 | |
Visit Aztec and Denver. De Luis is the guys name who runs. | 00:37:13 | |
Quick question. So we're going to get prices on the on the substation and will we also have like ballpark prices per kWh from | 00:37:18 | |
well, it'll be filled in, you know if if we have, if we go to borrow that money, we're going to have to figure out the cost of | 00:37:24 | |
electricity. | 00:37:29 | |
The cost of the. | 00:37:36 | |
Bringing the. | 00:37:37 | |
And then cost of putting this up? | 00:37:39 | |
And the operating and maintenance of four. | 00:37:42 | |
And we'll put that together for the council and then we'll distill it down to Kilow. | 00:37:45 | |
The other thing I have to tell you, there's Aztec right there. If you see it up upper right, then we put the arrow there. | 00:37:50 | |
That's. | 00:37:57 | |
Down to. | 00:37:59 | |
That's. | 00:38:03 | |
Down below is Bloomfield which are also doing their electric and then the big thing is Farmington. But to answer counselor Ocampo | 00:38:07 | |
question. | 00:38:11 | |
So those four things are what we'll have to bring. | 00:38:17 | |
Is what we need to borrow to get this going. | 00:38:20 | |
What it's going to cost us for the electricity. | 00:38:23 | |
What it's going to cost us to get the electricity here? | 00:38:26 | |
And what it's going to cost us to operate and maintain. | 00:38:28 | |
Those numbers will bring to you by the end of the month and then we'll distill that down to per kWh. | 00:38:32 | |
But the things that are not you're not going to know is that. | 00:38:38 | |
The clock pays 7 point. What's our gross receipts 7.8. | 00:38:44 | |
6875. | 00:38:51 | |
7.68756 point 8 huh 6.8. | 00:38:53 | |
We don't pay that. | 00:38:58 | |
OK. That's almost 8% benefit. | 00:39:00 | |
And we get a 2% franchise for them. We want to be paying that. | 00:39:04 | |
So that's almost 10. | 00:39:09 | |
Right. | 00:39:11 | |
That's not going to be charged to the customer. | 00:39:13 | |
And I can tell you that they're paying $0.08 a kilowatt. And to let you know that I talked to the I talked to him on Facebook, but | 00:39:18 | |
I didn't talk to him personally. But he was on Facebook. And I invited him to come to the meeting because they're always making | 00:39:24 | |
such a Hoover about, you know, open meetings and all that. Nobody showed up, and maybe they'll come at the next meeting. | 00:39:30 | |
But they're paying $0.08 for their electric. | 00:39:36 | |
When I can tell you we're going to end up paying 4.7 cents for the electricity. | 00:39:39 | |
Per kilowatt, so right there. So the decrease in the gross receipts, the decrease in the franchise fee. | 00:39:44 | |
Aztec. | 00:39:52 | |
Does not do the bill. | 00:39:55 | |
The city of AZ. | 00:39:56 | |
Does the. | 00:39:58 | |
With their gas, I mean with enough gas, water, sewer. | 00:40:00 | |
And other bill. | 00:40:04 | |
So and the council. The City Council are the directors of the of the the Aztec electric utility. The City Council is. | 00:40:06 | |
And so it's a very comparable. | 00:40:16 | |
As to what we're getting ourselves into. | 00:40:19 | |
And on top of that, you know we don't have the $4 million debt service that everybody's we're going to have a debt service. I'm | 00:40:22 | |
not saying it's not, it's going to be free. | 00:40:26 | |
We're going to have a debt service, but I don't know if you just recently saw that. | 00:40:31 | |
The Legislature is making available $100 million for solar. | 00:40:35 | |
Farms. | 00:40:41 | |
So our people in Denver who their Aztec is also getting into that grant is they're they're using the same people to get into the | 00:40:43 | |
solar business. So I I think. | 00:40:49 | |
If you have the. | 00:40:55 | |
And I can give you the contact numbers. They're more than happy to talk to you as a third party as to how they're doing it. | 00:40:57 | |
Using the same people, we're using their lawyers. | 00:41:05 | |
Their finance people and their electric supplier. | 00:41:08 | |
And they. | 00:41:12 | |
I think they're also tri-state is carrying their electricity, I think. | 00:41:15 | |
So that they're very comparable. You can hear it from them. | 00:41:20 | |
But we're waiting for Finley at the end of the month to. | 00:41:24 | |
We're going to distill it down to a kWh. | 00:41:28 | |
As to how much it's going to cost that would be able to? | 00:41:31 | |
Can I add a few things for you? Yes, Sir. | 00:41:35 | |
Just because the Council there are 2000 mythically owned utilities in the United States. | 00:41:39 | |
And as a former city manager for two of them and a general manager for a company in Arkansas. | 00:41:45 | |
I can tell. | 00:41:54 | |
The electric. | 00:41:56 | |
And you guys have gas, the electric utility is probably the most valuable asset those. | 00:41:58 | |
And that's that Clarksville IN Clarksville, AR. | 00:42:06 | |
I was in Clarksville, AR for 10 years. I was a city manager in Chanute, KS, for five years and I was also a city manager in | 00:42:11 | |
Herman, Missouri for two years. | 00:42:16 | |
And they own the electric. | 00:42:21 | |
Every single one of them did, yes. | 00:42:24 | |
Yeah and yeah and they were doing broadband too for I understand, but but but anyway yeah so, so and. | 00:42:26 | |
I spoke with the city. | 00:42:36 | |
Jeff Black. | 00:42:38 | |
And Denver, Del. | 00:42:39 | |
And. | 00:42:41 | |
Their budget is ecstatic with the with the utility as to what they do. | 00:42:45 | |
And it's an enterprise, it's not. It's like our natural gas. It's an enterprise. It doesn't mess with the with the. | 00:42:49 | |
But they. | 00:42:58 | |
All the electric stuff for the city lights that put up the Christmas lights, they hand me down all their equipment to other | 00:43:00 | |
departments and on top of that, you know, they generate a million. And like I said, don't hear it from me. And I think, let me | 00:43:06 | |
give you the context of the the people that you can talk to or visit. | 00:43:12 | |
Like I didn't see they're working. | 00:43:19 | |
It's a no brainer and the way they've designed it is that we can then flow the and everybody's been asking me about when we get | 00:43:23 | |
it. | 00:43:27 | |
We can flow the rest of the this electricity to the rest of the city. | 00:43:31 | |
Yes, Mr. Ocampo, I have one question and I mean this. | 00:43:38 | |
I don't know if you have the answer right off, but just a standard electric pole. You mentioned that we might need 200 of them if | 00:43:42 | |
we had to carry the own. | 00:43:46 | |
Electric for the first days. | 00:43:50 | |
How much is it per pole? Just a standard like wooden electric pole. | 00:43:53 | |
Do you have any idea like what the basic cost to actually install it? | 00:43:58 | |
I can I can give you a quick look. Do you guys have a quick answer? | 00:44:03 | |
Well, I have a quick answer for it. | 00:44:07 | |
No, the the the the electric coop. | 00:44:11 | |
When they were talking to TDs to put fiber on their. | 00:44:15 | |
They wanted 1,000,008. | 00:44:20 | |
To upgrade all the polls in the. | 00:44:22 | |
So 200 it depends on if they're metal or there there wouldn't. I mean they're they're they're not cheap they're not cheap and I | 00:44:26 | |
think anywhere from 1000 to 5000 to 4. | 00:44:31 | |
But I can get you. I can get you a better number and see. I don't know what the pandemic has done to the. | 00:44:38 | |
I just. | 00:44:44 | |
It would have been when that was in Clarksville, AR. It would have been about $2000 for home. But again. | 00:44:47 | |
With the supply chain, issues might be higher than that now. | 00:44:54 | |
I'm just curious because I've been quoted by the coop last two years and they've been close to 7000 a whole. They may be, I mean | 00:45:00 | |
you know they they'll quote you all kinds of numbers, but I would give you some. We'll give you the the where we procure it from. | 00:45:06 | |
As to what the numbers are, but but you know the cost of the. | 00:45:13 | |
We may not want to acquire some of the if you go look around the city. | 00:45:17 | |
You may not. We may not want to acquire those polls because #1 they're too short. | 00:45:23 | |
And you can't. You have to have a certain height and again go to Aztec and look at their. | 00:45:28 | |
And again, I can't overemphasize the fact that they have no debt service. | 00:45:34 | |
They are not in debt. | 00:45:41 | |
And I want to ask you and I'll give you a copy of their income tax as to what liability they have. They're about 4042 million on | 00:45:43 | |
the books. As to the coops liability and I don't know how much that 42,000,000 you're asking about the cost of polls. I don't know | 00:45:50 | |
how much that 42,000,000 has been spent in Sakura in the last 10 years. | 00:45:57 | |
So, Mr. Park. | 00:46:06 | |
Just to clarify once the information comes in. | 00:46:09 | |
We'll break it down to kilowatt and then we'll be able to disseminate that to the public to say this is like how much your bill | 00:46:13 | |
would look like or give like an option what the bill would look like for absolutely, you know. | 00:46:19 | |
There's this euphemism they use at the Co-op and other places. | 00:46:25 | |
They tell you what the energy rate. | 00:46:30 | |
And they'll tell you what the effective and what your effective rate is. | 00:46:33 | |
You want to know what the effective rate is. | 00:46:38 | |
Because they put all that stuff in there, but they want to highlight the energy rate. So we'll give you the effective rate as to | 00:46:40 | |
what your bill would be per kilowatt. | 00:46:45 | |
And one last thing I did meet. | 00:46:51 | |
With the core, I didn't meet with the city or the court before I was elected because I don't. I need to get elected. | 00:46:53 | |
So I didn't meet with them and they did say they're going to come. | 00:47:01 | |
On the 16th, so your question. So they told me they plan to be here. That's the first time word of it. | 00:47:04 | |
I'm just the passenger, the invitation, but they they haven't asked. They spoke to you then. | 00:47:11 | |
Yeah, that's the other thing they do. They don't speak directly to administration. They tend to work on each one of the | 00:47:18 | |
counselors. | 00:47:21 | |
And I don't think that's the right way to do. | 00:47:25 | |
For them, I try to speak to their administration. I don't try to speak to the. | 00:47:28 | |
So I think it's important that we get direct information. Sure. No, I met with them because I told my word. But they did say they | 00:47:33 | |
were going to come there. I have no idea. I met with Mr. Editor and another gentleman. So they said that they'd be here on the | 00:47:40 | |
16th. They said that they put in to be on the agenda and they haven't heard back. | 00:47:47 | |
I'm just merely giving her information. It was given to me. Well, that's news to us. They'll tell you things that. | 00:47:54 | |
Aren't true. | 00:48:01 | |
I didn't verify who they talked to. I just. I'm a man of my word. If I sound to do something, I do it. I met with them because I | 00:48:05 | |
said, oh, if you get a chance, call him back and tell him. Polo Herrera. | 00:48:09 | |
Panetta is our city clerk and he's responsible for the agenda. I'm not going to call him back. If they're here. Well, I mean, do | 00:48:18 | |
we need to call him? Hold on. Why don't you be on the call and tell him? | 00:48:23 | |
That we're going to put you on the agenda. Just tell us what what their topic is. | 00:48:30 | |
Sure, yeah. | 00:48:34 | |
They said they didn't get a response, so hopefully we can respond. That's great. That's a good thing. I've never been contacted, | 00:48:36 | |
OK? | 00:48:40 | |
Just. | 00:48:44 | |
But anyway, so. So we are I again. I you know me. | 00:48:47 | |
I'm trying to give you as much information but but. | 00:48:51 | |
And make Denny's e-mail and telephone number available to all the. | 00:48:55 | |
And that way you'll have the number and I will tell, and I've already discussed, that the council may call him and he's more than | 00:49:03 | |
happy to discuss. | 00:49:06 | |
Not Socorro, but what Aztec is doing. | 00:49:11 | |
And I think you can use really use the Aztec model. | 00:49:14 | |
To see what a small community can do with electricity, you can call return. | 00:49:18 | |
I've spoken to the manager at Raton. Raton has a different structure. | 00:49:22 | |
Their, their Their directors are not the City Council. They have a separate structure. | 00:49:28 | |
For their. | 00:49:33 | |
And it's an appointed structure. So that's a different type. It's not a City Council structure. You can talk to return, you can | 00:49:35 | |
talk to TRC and see why they're trying to sell their electricity or their their municipal but but you'll find that they've ran out | 00:49:42 | |
of money and they haven't been putting money towards their electric utility. That's my understanding. So it'd be great if you got | 00:49:49 | |
a chance to talk to the different cities that actually run their own municipal electric utility. | 00:49:56 | |
Any other questions, John, or comments? | 00:50:04 | |
No, not if there anything if you could go into the very last slide. | 00:50:08 | |
There you go. There's our contact information. I know the staff that the mayors got it. I didn't know if you want me to share that | 00:50:14 | |
with the City Council or not, mayor, but there it is. | 00:50:20 | |
No, I didn't share it. I didn't want them talking to you. | 00:50:26 | |
No, we will. We will share your beautiful pictures right on the screen and you guys take a good picture. | 00:50:29 | |
I know I had to work really hard at getting that picture. That's like 100 pigs right there. | 00:50:38 | |
I think Jeff makes a better picture than you then. But anyway, we'll make that, we'll make that available. | 00:50:46 | |
We'll make that available to them. | 00:50:53 | |
And again, I've been a city manager over 2 cities that have the electric facility and a general manager in the city of board. | 00:50:56 | |
So I I could answer some questions if the council or you'd want as well, I think that would be good. I think that would be a big | 00:51:04 | |
help. | 00:51:08 | |
So we'll make that those information and that and then we'll wait for the end of the month and you know maybe a little bit longer. | 00:51:13 | |
I know it's, it's difficult getting numbers. You can't, we can't get numbers to do a road. I mean we can't get numbers to do a | 00:51:18 | |
sewer project. It's just been difficult trying to get numbers and we hope that you can, you'll be successful in putting some | 00:51:23 | |
numbers to all the the designs that you've got. | 00:51:28 | |
Well, Jeff said he was going to get the whiffs and chains out. So hopefully we'll have it by the end of January. That's wonderful. | 00:51:34 | |
Great. Thank you again for making the presentation. | 00:51:39 | |
No problem. Thank you very much. | 00:51:44 | |
Thank you guys. Thank you. | 00:51:47 | |
Bye. | 00:51:50 | |
All right, let's do new business. Miss Chalice Lopez. I don't know if it goes under old business or new business, but both are | 00:51:55 | |
there. We still have. | 00:51:59 | |
Water. | 00:52:06 | |
On Bagley on Hwy. 60 and I, we go through this all the time. | 00:52:07 | |
And the answer is always the same, that we can't fix them because it's being fixed tomorrow. | 00:52:12 | |
But is it going to be fixed for good? | 00:52:20 | |
Yeah. First of all to tell the reason why you're having the leaks. OK, so first of all the pipes on on Hwy. 60s brand new PVC | 00:52:22 | |
pipe. | 00:52:27 | |
That was better with Perlite from when they gave us per light, you know the per light they let us, they give us per lights better | 00:52:33 | |
this brand new pipe. | 00:52:37 | |
You have a. You're in an area where you have high pressure. | 00:52:41 | |
Your Socorro is all. | 00:52:45 | |
The height of the tanks is the pressure. You have the area you live in Socorro, so you happen to live in an area and only half of | 00:52:47 | |
your street area where you live. At the end of the at that stop sign by Quigg ends a high pressure area. After that is you only | 00:52:52 | |
have like 40 lbs but you live in an area that has about 100, little over 100 lbs of patient and then it's 1/4 of the ground moves. | 00:52:58 | |
But. | 00:53:04 | |
Those leaks. | 00:53:10 | |
Come because it's a high pressure. | 00:53:11 | |
So what we're going to do is install a PRV. | 00:53:13 | |
Over there by the railroad track Michigan PRV. What it will do is the lower the pressure will lower that pressure pressure. | 00:53:17 | |
It's like a pressure review though. | 00:53:26 | |
So we'll lower the pressure to about 70 lbs in that area. 77 lbs. | 00:53:28 | |
And we don't ignore it so much because if I lower it too much. | 00:53:33 | |
Then, like where polo lives, he won't have the water because he's up the hill. The high school can't have water, so we only can | 00:53:38 | |
lower a certain area and the rest of it's going to stay high pressure. High School Rd. has to stay high pressure because we have | 00:53:43 | |
to get the road, the water up. Fairgrounds we have to get the water all the way to. | 00:53:49 | |
To the Tractor Supply and then it goes to Smith Road and so that's way so there's only so much we can do. | 00:53:56 | |
And you know, we don't cause ***** and we don't even hardly flush hydrants or we don't have fires and you know, they just pop up. | 00:54:05 | |
And they're brand new. Where you're living is brand new pipeline. We've done a project there probably 20 years ago and done that | 00:54:11 | |
whole area's brand new PVC pipe where you live vaguely that whole area is brand new pipe. So that means there's no old pipe in | 00:54:17 | |
that part of town. It's all brand new pipe. It's just a tie pressure and we're going to be so tomorrow we're going to be closing | 00:54:22 | |
Michigan High School Rd. | 00:54:27 | |
Part of Spanish Trails. Harry Harriet Jim Belmont. | 00:54:33 | |
Grenada Padilla, the Cyril Fowler tray grounds and part of Bagley and Tractor Supply to put in the valve and probably take a whole | 00:54:38 | |
day. | 00:54:42 | |
But that's going to lower that pressure in that area. But you know we've done it. We put a PRV over there by the over there at the | 00:54:47 | |
rodeo to lower the pressure over there going to the to the division and that whole area and stop the leak, stop 80% of the leaks. | 00:54:53 | |
I mean we have a leak there one now and then, but it's going to stop a lot of the leaks but. | 00:54:59 | |
I mean, it's just how the town is. I mean, there's leaks in Albuquerque's. They don't, yeah, but but but the council chairs? | 00:55:06 | |
Are you saying these leaks inside the house? | 00:55:14 | |
Oh, OK. So the links are on the streets. Yeah. And I know there's one right there when you go into bag, but but that's the reason | 00:55:17 | |
for it. And you know, our, our system is gravity fed. Most of it's gravity fed and that. So. And you know, people on Pinion, they | 00:55:23 | |
don't have any pressures. That's the other problem. So that's the problem we have with that. Yeah. You talk to the people in | 00:55:29 | |
Evergreen. | 00:55:35 | |
They don't have hardly no pressure. I mean, it's just depends where you live in town, you know? | 00:55:41 | |
All right, you heard it here, but it's not efficient. It's not like. | 00:55:49 | |
That's a good thing. That's a good thing. I'm trying to find out where all the councillors live. I didn't. | 00:55:55 | |
Anyway, so great, but that's the answer to that and I thought you were going to bring up your. | 00:56:05 | |
Your signing, which is new and old. | 00:56:11 | |
How about your, the thing that you put together, Yeah, so on the 28th we closed on our project that's going to be located at on | 00:56:14 | |
the industrial park in between the core mental health and the hospital. It's 32 units of permanent supportive housing. | 00:56:20 | |
Construction should start January the 16th. | 00:56:27 | |
What was your bottom line? | 00:56:33 | |
About 13 million. Wow. That's the biggest project in the city forever. So congratulations. Terrific job. Miss Councillor Dean | 00:56:35 | |
Lloyd. Unfortunately, I'm just directed to you, but where are we on the Finley gym? | 00:56:42 | |
Demo So we added in the project. | 00:56:50 | |
So we started. | 00:56:56 | |
Where they're still doing the design for the to do the demolition. | 00:57:00 | |
So they we added that we're going to go ahead and demo the Municipal Court all the way down the police. So we had I had him do an | 00:57:04 | |
inspection in the business. So I'm waiting for that inspection to see what we got to take out that would Gerald today we're going | 00:57:10 | |
to have to redo some of the electrical work because the old electrical agenda when we kill that part of the building, we're going | 00:57:17 | |
to kill part of the Finley gym. So Darrell's going to start working on that but. | 00:57:23 | |
Once we have a demolition plan and everybody's moved out within the demo, the whole thing at one time. | 00:57:30 | |
But we're going to work. The place we're not going to demo is we're going to say for the wires at that area there. We're not going | 00:57:36 | |
to demo that. We were going to demo part of that, but we're going to leave it now that we're going to demo everything. | 00:57:40 | |
So where are these folks going? | 00:57:46 | |
So we're doing is right now. | 00:57:48 | |
Working with the school system. | 00:57:51 | |
To do some movement in buildings. | 00:57:54 | |
Chief Garcia's officers have moved already over to. | 00:57:59 | |
And he still had stuff in the evidence room. | 00:58:03 | |
The friends of the library. | 00:58:08 | |
Have a large section. | 00:58:10 | |
We would like to see the Municipal Court move. | 00:58:12 | |
They also want to do a pre-K at similar. | 00:58:17 | |
So right now and I just talked to. | 00:58:21 | |
Chairman Hicks, he's out of town today but he's going to come back later this week is we need to firm. | 00:58:25 | |
Our MO U because it's going. | 00:58:30 | |
Time to get all this stuff together. So. But right now the Police Department has moved to, presumably already in a way. | 00:58:35 | |
And there's talk about the city working with the schools. | 00:58:43 | |
To inherit ser. | 00:58:48 | |
In three years by the time they get because they're still looking for money for the new junior high it went from. | 00:58:50 | |
13 million to 25. | 00:58:58 | |
So they're talking to the state about getting, but they're but the state wants them. | 00:59:01 | |
To have something done with ser. | 00:59:07 | |
Before they start building a new junior high and we're going to work with the schools to try to work. | 00:59:09 | |
Both buildings. | 00:59:15 | |
We're hoping. | 00:59:17 | |
Friends at the library will accept another place because I think with. | 00:59:20 | |
Police Department and the Municipal Court, being in one place is the best place for them to be. | 00:59:26 | |
So we're we're right now we're just trying to get an MOU done between. | 00:59:32 | |
School system and. | 00:59:38 | |
But that that's how that's moving along. | 00:59:41 | |
So once I finished Deborah and they move out of there, then I'll get with Isaac because we already disconnected all the gas when | 00:59:45 | |
we were going to demo. So we're going to have to disconnect all the utilities there, get the gas out of there and then we'll demo | 00:59:48 | |
it down. | 00:59:52 | |
But it's going to be, I would say, a couple months more. Thank you. | 00:59:57 | |
I want to Chief Garcia to talk about some activity that the juveniles have been doing here in. | 01:00:03 | |
Which is really malicious and destructive problem. And our problem is, and we've always talked about a juvenile facility. | 01:00:11 | |
Is that we can't get these juveniles. | 01:00:20 | |
Detained and sent away. | 01:00:24 | |
Because when you get them and you talk. | 01:00:28 | |
Jpo. | 01:00:32 | |
They won't let us transport them to a different facility and they're still in town, still causing some of the destruction. | 01:00:34 | |
So they asked me the point system that they go by through. | 01:00:41 | |
So you know, just this weekend, on the 30th, they broke into the dispensary again. | 01:00:44 | |
Within 45 minutes we had three individuals in custody. | 01:00:52 | |
Did a search warrant today on their vehicle. All the product was inside their vehicle. Arrested two of the juveniles. | 01:00:56 | |
We detain them, called JPO. They denied transport for these juveniles. | 01:01:02 | |
We didn't know yet, but they had also caused around 3 or $4000 in damage at Sarcino Middle School before this. | 01:01:08 | |
Same individuals on camera. | 01:01:16 | |
We try to get them revaluated, to get transported. They still wouldn't transport them. | 01:01:18 | |
About two hours before. | 01:01:23 | |
Saraceno. They're at Walmart stealing alcohol. Same to individuals. | 01:01:27 | |
And we're just having a hard time. There's no rooms for juveniles anywhere. | 01:01:32 | |
If we transport them, we transport them to Farmington. | 01:01:36 | |
That's where they have. |